Linux-Development-Sys Digest #402, Volume #6 Sun, 14 Feb 99 21:14:12 EST
Contents:
Re: glibc 2.1 ;) (Andreas Jaeger)
Re: glibc-2.1 compiled but crashed my System ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: restoring ext2 partition (Ben Russo)
Re: glibc 2.1 ;) (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Looking for something to do (James Youngman)
Re: /usr/bin/ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; (James Youngman)
Linux developers working with AIC7890 ? ("Andy Mucho")
Glibc-2.0.112 Problem. (David Taylor)
Re: glibc-2.1 compiled but crashed my System (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: glibc 2.1 ;) (Daren Scot Wilson)
licq crashes with RH52 (KDE1.1) (Elvis Chen)
Re: threads (David Wragg)
Really slow tar (Daren Scot Wilson)
Re: restoring ext2 partition (Juergen Heinzl)
Ncurses with g++ (RD Alexander)
Re: Really slow tar ("David A. Frantz")
2.2/Red Hat 5.2 upgrades disaster! (N1ho)
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From: Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glibc 2.1 ;)
Date: 13 Feb 1999 21:44:07 +0100
>>>>> Andi Kleen writes:
Andi> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andi> Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> 2) StarOffice - They knew that this would have problems,
>>> it just plain won't run. But then again, StarOffice has other
>>> problems . . .
>> StarOffice is broken.
Andi> Care to elaborate about the nature of the breakage?
In a nutshell: It uses internal symbols of glibc (not only __setfpucw
but also __libc_init) and the install program has a hardcode
dependency on the linuxthreads version (0.7).
Philip Blundell has tried to work around this and found no way to get
it working.:-(
Andreas
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Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: glibc-2.1 compiled but crashed my System
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:31:06 +0000
Thorsten Kukuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hi!
> This wasn't the configure command you run, or ?
> It should be configure --prefix=/usr --enable-add-ons=yes
ups.. was it vim, or did I missed that.
But I typed --enable-add-ons=crypt,linuxthreads,localedata
>> make
>> make check
>> all without errors. :)
>> But make install fails on the final perl-script, which should check the install..
>> And from now most apps fails with the same error and the system won't start anymore.
>> hmm, don't know the exact output at the moment, but it was like ...
>> _dl_global_scope has different sizes in hared libryries
>> _dl_default_scope ->undefined symbol in shared libraries
> It seems you have a mixed set of /lib/ld-linux.so.2 from glibc 2.0.x and
> libc.so.6 from glibc 2.1 or ld-linux.so.2 from glibc 2.1 and libc.so.6
> from 2.0.x.
> Please double check if the ld-linux.so.2 link the libc.so.6 link
> shows to the right version.
I checked it carefully once again, but all links are set ok.
All this errors begin with sh: or bash:... Is it a bash-bug? I dynamicly linked the
bash
against libc-2.0.7.so and libncurses.so.4.2...
--
Thorben
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: restoring ext2 partition
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:09:15 -0500
Renato Lukac wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> Is it possible to restore an ext2 partition?
> I accidently did an mke2fs on the *wrong* partition. /dev/hdd (only
> hdd1).
>
> Thanks,!
>
> Regards, Renato
>
> ,'~`.
> \\|//
> ( o o ) Window$ is living proof of Murphy's
> Law -(@ @)-
> +--.oooO--(_)--Oooo.-*-*-*-------------------------.oooO--(_)--Oooo.-+
> |Renato Lukac ** * ** |Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |
> |Gimnazija M.Sobota G M S |WWW:http://www.s-gms.ms.edus.si/renato/|
> |Slovenija ******* |Tel.: + 386 / (0)69 / 38-260-106 |
> +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
Reminds me of how my father told me that SHARP knifes are safer
than dull ones the first time I cut myself....
-Ben.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: glibc 2.1 ;)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:23:01 GMT
In article <7a3ili$mfm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thorsten Kukuk wrote:
>Nathan Paul Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 1) Netscape - kinda weird. Netscape won't connect to any
>> external sites anymore, but works with loopback.
>
>Which netscape version do you use ? netscape communicator 4.5 runs fine
>for me.
Same goes for 4.08 ...
[...]
>From the announcement:
>
>*BUT*: updating the C library is no trivial task and it is very easy
>to damage one's system. Therefore, persons who do not exactly know
>what to do, should consider using a binary distribution instead, when
>they become available.
... well, yes. There are some snags and the installation is not that
robust (try to forget --prefix=/usr, call make clean, try again ...)
>
>Maybe you should wait for a binary distribution ?
>
Highly recommended if one has got one already; some stuff needs to
be built again or different, although the reason can be work arounds
that were necessary for older linux kernels and libs. I'm quite happy
with 2.1 so it is not suicide to go for it but it is not a must right
now either.
[...]
>SuSE GmbH Schanzaeckerstr. 10 90443 Nuernberg
Greetings to my Nuremberg 8-)
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for something to do
Date: 14 Feb 1999 11:06:55 +0000
hwj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The assignment is supposed to take 6 months to complete at 3 days
> efficient work pr. week. This includes writing a report. There has
> got to be a fair amount of programming involved, and the focus
> should be on networking. I am considering to replace the routing
> database with a level compressed tree, but i am afraid there is not
> enough work in that job.
>
> Got any ideas?
1. How about implementing BPF for Linux, using proof-carrying code? That
way, the packet filter is compiled into x86 (Alpha, SPARC, etc) binary
code, and run by the kernel. But before this is done, the code is
examined to prove that it doesn't access any strucure it shouldnt. A
web search on proof-carrying code should find the references to the
papers.
The same idea of PCC could perhaps be extended to allow simplified
kernel modules to travel across a network (though I'm not sure what
that sould be useful for).
2. Alternatively, a modification for Samba. When Samba received a
request which includes a filename it has to ring the changes on the
case of the filename to guess what file Win95/DOS/ etc really wants.
e.g.
Request FOOBAR.TXT
Try FOOBAR.TXT
foobar.txt
Foobar.txt
Foobar.Txt
FOOBAR.txt
etc.
You could make the server figure out on a client-by-client basis what
case mapping is being used.
3. You could change the SMB client code in the kernel to take advantage
of SMB oplocks where available.
4. Design and implement a mirroring scheme for FTP servers which sends
(multicast) UDP packets from the primary server to the mirrors in
order to avoid the load on the primary host scaling linearly with the
number of mirror sites. Some packets will inevitably get lost, but a
mirror which knows it has missed a packet can request it from a fellow
mirror rather than the primary server.
The same technique can be used iin a lab full of Linux boxes to make
all of them install/upgrade simultaneously, as O(1) in the number of
clients, rather than O(n). This has actually been done (with UDP
broadcast). I forget the reference.
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /usr/bin/ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start;
Date: 12 Feb 1999 21:51:49 +0000
"Bob Harmon - Eng." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I compile and link my (fairly large 1.5M) application but the linker
> complains:
>
> /usr/bin/ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to
> 08049620
>
> Then when I type ./mate I get
> ../mate: Command not found
>
> I checked that . is in my path too!
>
> There is a 'main':
>
> I tried adding /usr/lib/crt1.o to the start of ld line, then it links OK
> but still gets
> ../mate: Command not found
> When I run it.
>
> Any help out there?
Use "gcc" as the name of the linker rather than using ld directly.
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From: "Andy Mucho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux developers working with AIC7890 ?
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:08:49 -0000
Probably wrong NG posting, but I'm unfortunately from the wrong side of the
OS planet..
Hope this is the right NG.
Has anyone got any contact information for anybody who's been developing the
Adaptec AIC7890+3860 drivers ?
I've got a major problem with an Asus P2B-DS, and need to find out a few
things about possible quirks in the 7890 chipset..
TIA, or sorry again if this is the wrong NG..
Andy Mucho
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From: David Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Glibc-2.0.112 Problem.
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:37:09 +0000
I upgraded to glibc-2.0.112 and ended up (after 3 days) getting my
computer to work again... However, I can't recompile the Linux kernel
(2.2.1) [using egcs Feb08 snapshot] - it fails with undefined symbols in
network.a
Output from make follows:
[snip]
ld -m elf_i386 -T /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/vmlinux.lds -e stext
arch/i386/kernel/head.o arch/i386/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o
init/version.o \
--start-group \
arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o
mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o \
fs/filesystems.a \
net/network.a \
drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/misc/misc.a
drivers/net/net.a drivers/cdrom/cdrom.a drivers/pci/pci.a
drivers/pnp/pnp.a drivers/video/video.a \
/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux/lib/lib.a
/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib/lib.a \
--end-group \
-o vmlinux
net/network.a(core.o): In function `skb_copy':
core.o(.text+0xed8): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(core.o): In function `skb_realloc_headroom':
core.o(.text+0x1000): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(core.o): In function `neigh_fill_info':
core.o(.text+0x4f4a): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(core.o): In function `__rta_fill':
core.o(.text+0x54d7): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(core.o): In function `rtnetlink_fill_ifinfo':
core.o(.text+0x558c): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(ethernet.o): In function `eth_header':
ethernet.o(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `skb_push'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `rt_fill_info':
ipv4.o(.text+0x1b83): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `ip_glue':
ipv4.o(.text+0x3390): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `ip_forward':
ipv4.o(.text+0x39b5): undefined reference to `skb_push'
ipv4.o(.text+0x3a69): undefined reference to `skb_push'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `ip_build_and_send_pkt':
ipv4.o(.text+0x4b08): undefined reference to `skb_push'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `__ip_finish_output':
ipv4.o(.text+0x4c53): undefined reference to `skb_push'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `ip_mc_output':
ipv4.o(.text+0x4d53): undefined reference to `skb_push'
net/network.a(ipv4.o)(.text+0x4df1): more undefined references to
`skb_push' follow
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `ip_build_xmit_slow':
ipv4.o(.text+0x5341): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `ip_build_xmit':
ipv4.o(.text+0x5615): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `ip_fragment':
ipv4.o(.text+0x584a): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `ip_local_error':
ipv4.o(.text+0x5fea): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `tcp_do_sendmsg':
ipv4.o(.text+0x715f): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(ipv4.o)(.text+0x719b): more undefined references to
`skb_put' follow
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `tcp_transmit_skb':
ipv4.o(.text+0xacd2): undefined reference to `skb_push'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `tcp_fragment':
ipv4.o(.text+0xb1ac): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `tcp_retrans_try_collapse':
ipv4.o(.text+0xb596): undefined reference to `skb_put'
ipv4.o(.text+0xb5ec): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `tcp_make_synack':
ipv4.o(.text+0xbd3f): undefined reference to `skb_push'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `arp_send':
ipv4.o(.text+0x113ff): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `inet_fill_ifaddr':
ipv4.o(.text+0x13723): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(ipv4.o): In function `fib_dump_info':
ipv4.o(.text+0x1618e): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(unix.o): In function `unix_dgram_sendmsg':
unix.o(.text+0xfbd): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(unix.o): In function `unix_stream_sendmsg':
unix.o(.text+0x121e): undefined reference to `skb_put'
net/network.a(netlink.o)(.text+0xa90): more undefined references to
`skb_put' follow
make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
Now that is one hell of a lot of errors, but they are ALL referring to
skb_put and skb_push...
Anyone have ANY clue what is going on?
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David Taylor
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: glibc-2.1 compiled but crashed my System
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:29:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Thorsten Kukuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Hi!
>
>> This wasn't the configure command you run, or ?
>
>> It should be configure --prefix=/usr --enable-add-ons=yes
>
>ups.. was it vim, or did I missed that.
>But I typed --enable-add-ons=crypt,linuxthreads,localedata
I wonder it worked, since localedata is not necessary anymore ...
[...]
>I checked it carefully once again, but all links are set ok.
>All this errors begin with sh: or bash:... Is it a bash-bug? I dynamicly linked the
>bash
>against libc-2.0.7.so and libncurses.so.4.2...
... that might be the bummer, if possible (use the ksh if
installed since it does not use it) rebuild libncurses. Old
programmes will run with the new one.
If not possible I can either send you mine or if I am online you
can download it.
Good luck,
Juergen
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From: Daren Scot Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glibc 2.1 ;)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:43:18 +0000
>
> In a nutshell: It uses internal symbols of glibc (not only __setfpucw
> but also __libc_init) and the install program has a hardcode
> dependency on the linuxthreads version (0.7).
Isn't this not unlike what Microsoft was accused of doing?
*All* "office suites" give me bad vibes, for some reason...
--
Daren Scot Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.newcolor.com
----
"A ship in a harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for"
-- William Shedd
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From: Elvis Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: licq crashes with RH52 (KDE1.1)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:24:42 -0500
greetings,
I just installed RH52 with all the updates, and KDE 1.1. I also installed
licq (0.51) on the system. However, it crashes constantly. Thus far, I
havn't had an icq session lasts more than 10 minutes. any idea?
my system:
P133 with DFI P5BV3+ (rev B) MB, with 128 PC100 (cas2) SDRAM,
IBM 10gig HD, IDE
IBM 2gig HD, SCSI
Symbios SYM20810 SCSI controller.
AMD AM2100 PcNet ethernet card.
Mytique 220 4MB video card,
Optiquest V775
on the software side,
RH52 with all the updates (kernel 2.0.36)
KDE 1.1
thanx in advance,
Elvis
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From: David Wragg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: threads
Date: 12 Feb 1999 15:25:22 +0000
Du Jinsong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, would you please tell me whether I can call pthread functions(e.g.
> pthread_create()) in Linux kernel source .c files?
No, those are implemented in LinuxThreads, a user-space library.
There is a kernel_thread function for creating threads within the
kernel. Grep for it in the source tree to find some examples (it's in
2.1/2.2, I don't think it's in 2.0).
Dave Wragg
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From: Daren Scot Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Really slow tar
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:49:43 +0000
tar runs very slowly on my machine. This started about a month ago, after
reloading linux (RH5.0) and upgrading the kernel, compilers, etc. Everything
else runs normal. There are no symptoms other than that tar runs slow. It's
not unzipping - I can run gunzip in a few seconds, then tar -xzvf takes
forever. The -v option shows one to maybe six files flying by, then many
seconds paused, then one to a few files, the another pause, etc.
How slow? A tarball several meg in size used to untar in just a minute or two
or three, depending on CPU load. Now i have time to eat lunch, see a movie,
see another movie... Linux kernel 2.2.1 took all hours overnight to untar.
Once the stuff is untarred, it's good. I'm running a 2.2.1 kernel, 2.1 glibc,
and the latest xterm, bash, netscape all having been slowly untarred.
Tar, and nearly everything else, was compiled with gcc 2.8.1, using glibc 2.0.6
and since today, glibc 2.1.
Computer is a PII-400, 96RAM, 6G HD nowhere near full, 100M swap. Plenty of
raw material - nothing else runs anomalously slow.
Any good diagnostics suggestions? Fixes?
--
Daren Scot Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.newcolor.com
----
"A ship in a harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for"
-- William Shedd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: restoring ext2 partition
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:51:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Renato Lukac wrote:
>hi,
>
>Is it possible to restore an ext2 partition?
>I accidently did an mke2fs on the *wrong* partition. /dev/hdd (only
>hdd1).
I dare say forget it, as sad or terrible it is. You initialised all
the information necessary to know which data blocks belong to which
file and so on and so on.
You data is still there, so if there is some *very* important text
file or such you can use something like bpe or some other hex
editor to get it back, but else and with no backup ...
Very sorry,
Juergen
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From: RD Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ncurses with g++
Date: 14 Feb 1999 16:00:27 GMT
Is there any reason why ncurses won't work with g++ and libg++?
Following the instructions on the man page, I added '#include ncurses.h' to
my C++ program. Afterwards it wouldn't compile - gcc complained of "parse
error before 'char' on line 15". There isn't a 'char' on line 15. Removing
the extra include allowed the program to compile again.
--
Rob Alexander (u8k62 [at or around, you know] ugk.keele.ac.uk)
Probably
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From: "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Really slow tar
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:40:58 -0500
Daren;
You might want to search DejaNus as I've seen this problem listed before.
Never had it myself but I think you need to upgrade tar.
dave
Daren Scot Wilson wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>tar runs very slowly on my machine. This started about a month ago, after
>reloading linux (RH5.0) and upgrading the kernel, compilers, etc.
Everything
>else runs normal. There are no symptoms other than that tar runs slow.
It's
>not unzipping - I can run gunzip in a few seconds, then tar -xzvf takes
>forever. The -v option shows one to maybe six files flying by, then many
>seconds paused, then one to a few files, the another pause, etc.
>
>How slow? A tarball several meg in size used to untar in just a minute or
two
>or three, depending on CPU load. Now i have time to eat lunch, see a
movie,
>see another movie... Linux kernel 2.2.1 took all hours overnight to
untar.
>
>Once the stuff is untarred, it's good. I'm running a 2.2.1 kernel, 2.1
glibc,
>and the latest xterm, bash, netscape all having been slowly untarred.
>
>Tar, and nearly everything else, was compiled with gcc 2.8.1, using glibc
2.0.6
>and since today, glibc 2.1.
>
>Computer is a PII-400, 96RAM, 6G HD nowhere near full, 100M swap. Plenty
of
>raw material - nothing else runs anomalously slow.
>
>Any good diagnostics suggestions? Fixes?
>
>
>--
>Daren Scot Wilson
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>www.newcolor.com
>----
>"A ship in a harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for"
> -- William Shedd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (N1ho)
Subject: 2.2/Red Hat 5.2 upgrades disaster!
Date: 15 Feb 1999 01:25:30 GMT
Go browse http://www.linuxhq.com/change22.html for their information on
upgrading to V2.2(.1). It's not clear to me that you can use glibc-2.1 for some
things. Also, the kernel development was done using gcc-2.7.2.3, not egcs, and
I believe there were a number of issues with the kernel code that preclude
compiling it with egcs at the moment. You might also need to update your
modutils as well as several other components, some of which weren't in the
RedHat 5.2 distribution. There is a long discussion on that page about the ttyp
issues that you had problems with.
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