Linux-Development-Sys Digest #774, Volume #7 Sat, 15 Apr 00 22:13:17 EDT
Contents:
Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU! MICROSOFT IS THRU! ("Chad Myers")
Re: MS caught breaking web sites ("Drestin Black")
Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU! MICROSOFT IS THRU! (Charlie Ebert)
Re: A beginner's question ("Jean Flinois")
Re: Color faxing s/w? ("Spehro Pefhany")
Re: A beginner's question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS caught breaking web sites (Unit 4)
THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! Was (Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU! MICROSOFT IS
THRU! ("2 + 2")
Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU! MICROSOFT IS THRU! ("Chad Myers")
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU! MICROSOFT IS THRU!
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:57:44 GMT
You know the funny thing about this post is that there is no back door,
and it's been proven by several parties and reported from several reliable
news sources. I expect you'll see a retraction by WSJ monday if it hasn't
happened
already.
<sigh>
I have a feeling this is going to be one of those topics that the ignorant
zealotous anti-MS morons (such as Charlie here) will continue to bring up over
and over and over again, even though it's been proven false.
Kinda like the Kerberos thing, or the _NSAKEY thing, or any number of other
BS topics.
Oh well..
-Chad
"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
>
>
> TELL EVERYONE!
>
> Microsoft has been forced to admit they created secret back doors to every
> computer
> system they sold out the DOOR!
>
> This MEANS to the STUPID and IGNORANT that the U.S. Government has ACCESS
> to every MS equipped machine in the world and therefore they
> CAN NOT BE TRUSTED ANYMORE!
>
> Charlie
>
>
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: MS caught breaking web sites
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:49:34 -0400
old news - and incorrect bullshit as well.
"wisdom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> WELL WELL WELL!
>
> For all of you butt-bumping suckbuddies of Mr. Bill who have
> been assuring us that there are no network "backdoors" in
> Windows you, along with your evil master, are fucked now.
>
> Microsoft just acknowledged (see attached CBS article) that they
> installed secret code in Windows to sabotage webservers
> by allowing "backdoor" unsecured logins for hackers. The
> code was apparently intended to be used against Netscape
> based on embedded comments in the file.
>
> Microsoft is blaming this on "rogue" programmers, whom
> they are promising to fire.(Now tell me the one about the easter bunny)
>
> The timing of this admission couldn't be better... Just when Judge
> Jackson
> is considering whether Microsoft deserves to be broken up, it turns out
> that
> their market dominance was aided by deliberate sabotage...Hmmmm
>
> Let's all hear a rousing chorus of "Breaking up is hard to do".
>
>
>
>
> Microsoft Acknowledges Hidden File
> Secret Message Was Aimed At Rival
> Manager Will Fire Those Responsible
> No Reports Of Hackers So Far
>
> NEW YORK
> (CBS) Microsoft Corp.
> engineers
> included a secret password in
>
> Internet software that could
> be
> used to gain illegal access
> to
> hundreds of thousands of Web
> sites, The Wall Street
> Journal
> reported Friday.
>
> The rogue computer code was
> discovered in a
> three-year-old
> piece of software by two security experts. Contained
> within the code
> is a derisive comment aimed at a Microsoft rival:
> "Netscape
> engineers are weenies!"
>
> Steve Lipner, who manages Microsoft's
> security-response center,
> described such a backdoor password as "absolutely
> against our
> policy" and a firing offense for the as-yet
> unidentified employees.
>
> There have been no reports of site access through
> the code, but the
> affected software is believed to be used by many Web
> sites.
>
> The file, called "dvwssr.dll" is installed on
> Microsoft's Internet-server
> software with Frontpage 98 extensions. By using the
> so-called
> backdoor, a hacker may be able to gain access to key
> Web site
> management files, which could in turn provide a road
> map to such
> things as customer credit card numbers, the Journal
> reported.
>
> One of the security experts, Russ Cooper, says the
> risk is bigger
> with commercial Internet hosting providers, which
> maintain
> thousands of Web sites for a slew of organizations.
>
> It was apparently programmed by a Microsoft employee
> when
> Netscape and Microsoft were at war over their
> version of an internet
> browser, according to the Journal. Eventually
> American Online Inc.
> acquired Netscape.
>
> The Journal reported that an engineer from Netscape
> called the
> hidden file a "classic engineer rivalry."
>
> Microsoft urged customers to delete the file and
> planned to warn
> customers with an e-mail bulletin and an advisory
> published on its
> corporate Web site.
>
> Copyright 2000 CBS Worldwide Inc. All Rights
> Reserved. This
> material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten,
> or
> redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to
> this report.
>
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From: Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU! MICROSOFT IS THRU!
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:56:06 GMT
Chad Myers wrote:
> You know the funny thing about this post is that there is no back door,
> and it's been proven by several parties and reported from several reliable
> news sources. I expect you'll see a retraction by WSJ monday if it hasn't
> happened
> already.
>
> <sigh>
>
> I have a feeling this is going to be one of those topics that the ignorant
> zealotous anti-MS morons (such as Charlie here) will continue to bring up over
> and over and over again, even though it's been proven false.
>
> Kinda like the Kerberos thing, or the _NSAKEY thing, or any number of other
> BS topics.
>
> Oh well..
>
> -Chad
>
Dear Chad.
Microsoft is asking everybody to delete that .dll.
They wouldn't ask us to delete the .dll if it weren't a threat.
You can't call a guy a moron and an idiot if there's been a story published
about a security threat from a Microsoft product, THEN have Microsoft tell
you to delete the .dll because it IS a security threat.
That just makes you look stupid.
And I want that clearly pointed out....
If the .dll wasn't a threat then they shouldn't have told the world to delete it.
Okay....
You CAN'T KEEP turning the WORLD into FUDSTERS every time a new BAD THING is
EXPOSED about Microsoft products...
The FUDSTER, moron, idiot campaign carried off by Microsoft Trolls is clearly a
problem.
It leads people to believe that using a Microsoft Operating system is a SAFE and
SANE
thing to do!
Isn't that just amazing here folks. The press reports the security flaw, the
back door.
Microsoft says to delete the .dll as it's a security risk.
And this guy has the Gaul to holler 'FUDSTER' 'Idiot' 'Moron' TO ME!
GOD, I can't believe it.
Chad, ... No... No Chad...
Charlie
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From: "Jean Flinois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: A beginner's question
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:05:22 GMT
Jason Rizer wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello. I am a C/C++ programmer and I have recently installed Linux.
Good.
>I have no experience with Linux. I installed Redhat 6.0 from the Info
>Magic Developer's Resource CD. My question is this: Do I have a C/C++
>Compiler installed?
Yes
> If I don't where on the internet can I find one?
Gcc, but it's there.
>Any suggestions on which to choose? I'm not, at least initially,
>interested in doing any GUI development. Finally, the machine on which
>I'm running Linux is not connected to the internet, though I have a
>machine running NT which is. Will I have a problem downloading files
>onto the NT machine and transferring them to the Unix machine via floppy
>or a zip disk.
Nope. Works great.
>Thanks in advance for any help I get.
You're welcome.
>Jason
Jean
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From: "Spehro Pefhany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Color faxing s/w?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:15:53 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.system Diego Berge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not at 9600 (or even 14400) bauds, anyway :) -- are those color
> faxes regular copper-wire phone line stuff, or more like ISDN, DSL,
> etc.?
At most, the color would triple the transmission time, so, at fax
resolution, who cares? They'd work fine on a regular phone line.
Best regards,
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Subject: Re: A beginner's question
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:34:19 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.apps Jason Rizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello. I am a C/C++ programmer and I have recently installed Linux. I
> have no experience with Linux. I installed Redhat 6.0 from the Info
> Magic Developer's Resource CD. My question is this: Do I have a C/C++
> Compiler installed? If I don't where on the internet can I find one?
Type locate gcc. If it comes up with a long list of files, then yes, it is
installed. If not, it's an integral part of linux and will be on the RedHat
CD anyway.
> Any suggestions on which to choose?
gcc is the standard for linux.
I'm not, at least initially,
> interested in doing any GUI development. Finally, the machine on which
> I'm running Linux is not connected to the internet, though I have a
> machine running NT which is. Will I have a problem downloading files
> onto the NT machine and transferring them to the Unix machine via floppy
> or a zip disk. Thanks in advance for any help I get.
Linux can read dos/fat/vfat, so you'll have no trouble reading floppies.
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From: Unit 4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: MS caught breaking web sites
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:01:52 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:17:18 +0100, "Robert Moir"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, in alt.conspiracy.area51:
}
}"wisdom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
}news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
}> WELL WELL WELL!
}>
}> For all of you butt-bumping suckbuddies of Mr. Bill who have
}> been assuring us that there are no network "backdoors" in
}> Windows you, along with your evil master, are fucked now.
}>
}> Microsoft just acknowledged (see attached CBS article) that they
}> installed secret code in Windows to sabotage webservers
}> by allowing "backdoor" unsecured logins for hackers. The
}> code was apparently intended to be used against Netscape
}> based on embedded comments in the file.
}
}Hey Fudster, seen this?
}taken from NT bugtraq
}
}Latest reports say that there is
}NO VULNERABILITY IN DVWSSR.DLL
Looks like bugtraq fucked up.
MS admits it to the media and tells people to delete the file.
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From: "2 + 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! Was (Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU!
MICROSOFT IS THRU!
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:11:24 -0400
THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
Uhmmmm . . .
Am I repeating myself?
No matter.
THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
Ahhhh. BTW, this is not directed at those who have LOST MONEY in the stock
market.
And please don't jump.
This is more in the astronomical news.
Or the aerospace news. For the defense contractors who might get the
contract to PROP the sky up.
2 + 2
Charlie Ebert wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>MICROSOFT IS THRU!
>MICROSOFT IS THRU!
>MICROSOFT IS THRU!
>MICROSOFT IS THRU!
>MICROSOFT IS THRU!
>MICROSOFT IS THRU!
>
>
>TELL EVERYONE!
>
>Microsoft has been forced to admit they created secret back doors to every
>computer
>system they sold out the DOOR!
>
>This MEANS to the STUPID and IGNORANT that the U.S. Government has ACCESS
>to every MS equipped machine in the world and therefore they
>CAN NOT BE TRUSTED ANYMORE!
>
>Charlie
>
>
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU! MICROSOFT IS THRU!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 02:05:50 GMT
"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dear Chad.
>
> Microsoft is asking everybody to delete that .dll.
> They wouldn't ask us to delete the .dll if it weren't a threat.
Because people are too stupid to set their permissions correctly.
Not to mention that there is a buffer overrun that was discovered (which has
nothing to do with this false 'backdoor' urban legend) and since this DLL
is pretty much depricated, MS is just advising to delete it for precaution.
If MS were interested in backdooring your system, why would they tell you
to delete it?
> You can't call a guy a moron and an idiot if there's been a story published
> about a security threat from a Microsoft product, THEN have Microsoft tell
> you to delete the .dll because it IS a security threat.
But the reason they're telling you to delete it is completely unrelated to
this crazy "back door" nonsense.
> That just makes you look stupid.
Hmm... truth is stupid? Ok! Then I'm a flaming moronic truth-telling idiot, if
that's what interest in the truth makes me. I suppose I could be cooler and
jump on the anti-MS conspiracy and disreguard all fact, evedience and truth,
like you obviously have.
> If the .dll wasn't a threat then they shouldn't have told the world to delete
it.
Since the DLL was under intesnse scrutiny, another, rather minor buffer overrun
was detected. Since the DLL is pretty much depricated, MS didn't see any point
in
supporting it. Remember, this was with the FrontPage98 extensions back when
VisualInterDEV 1.0 was out. No one runs VID 1.0 anymore, so there's no use for
the DLL anyhow.
C'mon people, know your facts before you start spouting of this ignorant BS.
> You CAN'T KEEP turning the WORLD into FUDSTERS every time a new BAD THING is
> EXPOSED about Microsoft products...
Considering nothing was exposed, I guess that makes you not only a FUDSTER,
but a liar and a defamer, right? Consider it a favor that I'm only calling you
guys raving lunatics concerned only with FUD.
> The FUDSTER, moron, idiot campaign carried off by Microsoft Trolls is clearly
a
> problem.
Damn that truth! Always hurts when you're smacked by it, doesn't it, Charlie?
> It leads people to believe that using a Microsoft Operating system is a SAFE
and
> SANE
> thing to do!
Of course, there's been no evidence otherwise, why SHOULDN'T they believe this?
> Isn't that just amazing here folks. The press reports the security flaw, the
> back door.
> Microsoft says to delete the .dll as it's a security risk.
Microsoft says there's no Backdoor, many 3rd party sources confirm this.
Another group, after validating MS claims essentially says "well, there's no
back door, but we did find a common buffer overrun that they might want to
patch"
Well, since no one really uses that DLL in the FP98 extensions, the best,
quickest, and most thorough way to fix the buffer overrun possible vunerability
would be to just delete it.
Do you even read this stuff, or do you just start spouting your moronic BS
without
thinking?
> And this guy has the Gaul to holler 'FUDSTER' 'Idiot' 'Moron' TO ME!
> GOD, I can't believe it.
Imagine the gaul? Perhaps I should get a labatomy and go on "the medicine" and
I could live in the imaginary play-land that you live in?
-Chad
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