Linux-Development-Sys Digest #311, Volume #8 Wed, 29 Nov 00 21:13:17 EST
Contents:
Re: gcc-2.95.2 forces ALL c++ programs to be GPL !!??!# ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Makefile question ("Mikael Chambon")
Problems (raced conditions) with semaphores (Axel Straschil)
Re: Does filesystem fragment? (Erik Hensema)
Re: fdisk sources ("Slawek Grajewski")
Re: Runtime file size modifying (David Wragg)
Re: Problems (raced conditions) with semaphores (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: Why PostgreSQL is not that popular as MySQL? (Ronald Cole)
Re: Does filesystem fragment? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: linux API ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
getty - serial - com1 ("...")
help linux help (I See Myself Run)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: gcc-2.95.2 forces ALL c++ programs to be GPL !!??!#
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:55:37 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels) wrote:
> My C++ programs don't link statically to libstdc++. I'm puzzled
> as to why you and your informants seem to believe this library
> needs to be linked statically.
The engineers I work with are now discovering that in fact they don't
need to link libstdc++ statically which would solve the licensing
problem.
Perhaps the need to link libstdc++ statically in C++ programs is an
urban legend (at least within the group I work with).
Separately I've also emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] to see if not including
the special exception in the 2 LGPL'd and 2 GPL'd files within libstdc++
was just an oversight (or not).
Someone else has pointed out that the issues I'm dealiing with are
partly covered by:
http://docs.FreeBSD.org/info/g++FAQ/g++FAQ.info.legalities.html
The discussion there says the libstdc++ code is all licensed under the
"special exceptions" clause. However my current research shows that
this is not the case -- there are 2 files which are LGPL'd and 2 that
are GPL'd.
Regards,
Ralph
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Mikael Chambon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Makefile question
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:35:48 -0600
The program I am trying to compile need two others objects in two differents
directories,
so I wrote 3 rules in my Makefile:
toto :
(cd ../../toto;make all)
titi :
(cd ../../titi;make all)
all :
toto
titi
$(NAME)
OF course name is the main program, the problem is that when I type " make
all", only toto is compile,
does someone has a trick for me...
Thanks ..
Mikael
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From: Axel Straschil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems (raced conditions) with semaphores
Date: 29 Nov 2000 22:16:14 +0100
Hi !
Im just playing around with semaphores, and I've got an funny problem.
My mini-prog ist doing something like:
while string isn't empty
- P
- copy string from shared memory
- print string
- read string
- copy string to shared memory
- V
(P is blocking the semaphore, V freeing)
Nothing great ;-)
So, i've startet the thing two times and expectet that the two
prozesses whould alternating in reading and printing the string.
But only the first prozess is working, the second keeps sleeping ;-(.
I tryed (god knows why) to put an sleep(1) after my 'V', and, it
works like I've expected.
It looks like without the sleep(1), the first prozess is going
directly from P to V, ignoring the second prozess.
Could it be becouse I've got an SMP-Sytem?
My system is:
RedHat 6.2 whith 2xi686, kernel 2.2.16
gcc is gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)
Flags are: -D_XOPEN_SOURCE -g -Wall -ansi -pedantic
Thanks for any hints, and sorry for my bad english ;),
AXEL.
My files:
---ff.h-----------------------
#include <sys/shm.h>
#include <sys/sem.h>
#include <sem182.h>
#define SHM_KEY 9526547
#define SHM_PERM 0666
#define SEM_KEY SHM_KEY
#define SEM_PERM SHM_PERM
#define SEM_CNT 1
#define SEM_NR 0
/*Max length for the input-string */
#define MAX_INPUT_LEN 255
/* Struct for shared memory */
typedef struct {
char sz[MAX_INPUT_LEN];
} shm_t;
--ffa.c---------------------------------
#include "ff.h"
static int nSemID = -1; /* ID for semaphore */
static int nShmID = -1; /* ID for shared memory */
static shm_t* pShm = (shm_t*) 0; /* Pointer to shared meory */
const char* szCommand = "<UNKNOWN>";
void BailOut(const char* szMessage);
void SigHandler(int nSig);
int V(int semid) {
struct sembuf semp;
semp.sem_num = SEM_NR;
semp.sem_op = 1;
semp.sem_flg = 0;
/* increment semaphore by 1 */
return semop(semid, &semp, 1);
}
int P(int semid) {
struct sembuf semp;
semp.sem_num = SEM_NR;
semp.sem_op = -1;
semp.sem_flg = 0;
/* decrement semaphore by 1, but wait if value is less then one */
return semop(semid, &semp, 1);
}
void AllocateResources (void) {
struct sigaction sigact;
/* Signale */
sigact.sa_handler = SigHandler;
sigemptyset (&sigact.sa_mask);
sigaction (SIGINT, &sigact, 0);
sigaction (SIGTERM, &sigact, 0);
/* Semaphore */
if ((nSemID = semget(SEM_KEY, SEM_CNT, SEM_PERM | IPC_CREAT | IPC_EXCL)) == -1) {
/* Hmm, seems that we are not first ... */
if ((nSemID = semget(SEM_KEY, SEM_CNT, SEM_PERM)) == -1) {
BailOut("Could not create or connect to semaphore\n");
}
} else {
/* initialize semaphore semaphore */
if (semctl(nSemID, SEM_NR, SETVAL, 1) == -1) {
BailOut ("Can't init semaphore!");
}
}
/* Shared Memory */
/* Try to create exclusive */
if ((nShmID = shmget(SHM_KEY, sizeof(shm_t), SHM_PERM | IPC_CREAT | IPC_EXCL)) ==
-1) {
/* Could not create exclusive, was input first? */
if ((nShmID = shmget(SHM_KEY, sizeof(shm_t), SHM_PERM | IPC_CREAT)) == -1) {
BailOut("Can't create shared memory!");
}
}
/* Attach */
if ((pShm = (shm_t*) shmat( nShmID, (void*) 0, 0)) == (shm_t*) -1) {
BailOut("Cant't attach shared memory!");
}
}
void FreeResources (void) {
/* Shared memory */
/* Detach */
if (pShm != (shm_t*) -1) {
if (shmdt((void*) pShm) == -1) {
pShm = (shm_t*) -1;
BailOut("Can't detach shared memory!");
}
pShm = (shm_t*) -1;
}
/* Delete */
if (nShmID != -1) {
if (shmctl(nShmID, IPC_RMID, (struct shmid_ds *) 0) == -1) {
nShmID = -1;
BailOut("Can't delete shared memory!");
}
nShmID = -1;
}
/* Semaphore */
if (nSemID != -1) {
if (semctl(nSemID, SEM_CNT, IPC_RMID, 0) == -1) {
nSemID = -1;
BailOut("Can't delete semaphore!\n");
}
nSemID = -1;
}
}
void BailOut(const char* szMessage) {
if (szMessage != (const char*) 0) {
fprintf (stderr, "[%s:] %s\n", szCommand, szMessage);
}
FreeResources ();
exit (EXIT_FAILURE);
}
void SigHandler (int nSig) {
FreeResources();
exit (EXIT_SUCCESS);
}
int main (int argc, char* argv[]) {
char szBuff[MAX_INPUT_LEN];
szCommand = argv[0];
AllocateResources();
while (szBuff[0] != '\n') {
if (P(nSemID) == -1) {
BailOut ("Can't mP()");
}
strcpy(szBuff, pShm->sz);
/* Ausgeben */
(void) fprintf(stdout, "[%s] %s\n", szCommand, szBuff);
/* Einlesen */
printf (">");
if(fgets(szBuff, MAX_INPUT_LEN, stdin) == NULL) {
BailOut ("Error reading from stdin!");
}
strcpy(pShm->sz, szBuff);
if (V(nSemID) == -1) {
BailOut ("Can't mV()");
}
/* wiht uncommenting this, it works ??? */
/*sleep (1);*/
}
FreeResources();
exit (EXIT_SUCCESS);
}
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Hensema)
Subject: Re: Does filesystem fragment?
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:48:45 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>Al Byers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[about fragmentation when using a lot of files]
>The problem you would likely hit would not be of fragmentation, but
>rather of the directory in use growing in size, perhaps getting rather
>inefficient to access.
One word: reiserfs.
reiser gracefully handles directories containing 10 000 or more files.
--
Erik Hensema ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Registered Linux user #38371 -- http://counter.li.org
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From: "Slawek Grajewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fdisk sources
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:57:24 +0100
fdisk is a part of util-linux package. You can download if, for example,
from: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/util-linux
Slawek
MESMEUR Philippe wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>hi,
>
>I'm looking for fdisk's sources on the net but I can't find them.
>can you please hellp me
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From: David Wragg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Runtime file size modifying
Date: 29 Nov 2000 01:08:52 +0000
Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]> writes:
> It's a standard, and vendors had input into it, and --- most importantly
> --- it did more than merely standardize existing practice. Of course it
> ended up sucking in numerous amusing ways. The C standardization
> committee got it pretty much right; import some nice ideas from C++,
> formalize existing practice, and call it a standard.
But the presentation and structure of the C standard has lots of
problems, which make it hard to use and in some cases open to multiple
interpretations. It's much better than no standard at all, so in that
sense the committee (or rather the C90 and C99 committees) did a good
job, but I have far too many misgivings about both versions of the
standard to agree that they got it right.
In contrast, it is quite possible to use POSIX.1 as an everyday
programming reference (using it instead of man pages), and the
rationale is pretty good too. It's just a shame about the
questionable areas of innovation.
> (And even they
> tried the `add new bits' trick; remember `noalias'? *shudder*)
Remember? C99 has restrict, which is basically son-of-noalias.
(Though the only unpleasant experience I have had with the fairly
complete restrict support in glibc-2.1.9x and gcc-2.9x was due to a
compiler bug).
David Wragg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Subject: Re: Problems (raced conditions) with semaphores
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:26:17 GMT
On 29 Nov 2000 22:16:14 +0100, Axel Straschil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi !
>
>Im just playing around with semaphores, and I've got an funny problem.
>My mini-prog ist doing something like:
>
>while string isn't empty
> - P
> - copy string from shared memory
> - print string
> - read string
> - copy string to shared memory
> - V
>
>(P is blocking the semaphore, V freeing)
>
>Nothing great ;-)
>So, i've startet the thing two times and expectet that the two
>prozesses whould alternating in reading and printing the string.
>But only the first prozess is working, the second keeps sleeping ;-(.
Exactly what part of your code ensures this expected strict alternation?
You seem to be expecting some magic to happen at point V, whereby control is
immediately passed to the other process.
If you want to enforce strict alternation, you need two semaphores to serve
as a bi-directional handshake. To pass control to the other process, signal
semaphore A, and wait on B. That process wakes up from its wait on A, does its
job and then signals B and waits on A.
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From: Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.databases.postgresql.general,comp.databases.postgresql.committers,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Why PostgreSQL is not that popular as MySQL?
Date: 29 Nov 2000 17:18:01 -0800
Raymond Chui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am just start look at PostgreSQL for our Redhat Linux.
> I am wonder why most of people choose MySQL in Linux
> world rather than PostgreSQL? PostgreSQL has 15 years
> history (I never know that before) which is much longer
> than MySQL. Also PostgreSQL supports a lot of things
> which MySQL has not support yet.
Postgres, yes. PostgreSQL, no. PostgreSQL was a new project with
Postgres95 as a starting point. Postgres95 was an attempt to put an
SQL front-end on Postgres. AFAIK, most all of the Postgres code was
jettisoned early on for performance reasons. That makes PostgreSQL
roughly five years old, code-wise.
I still have a Postgres95 tree in CVS before the PostgreSQL fork to
prove it, too! ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Does filesystem fragment?
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:34:09 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Hensema) writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >Al Byers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [about fragmentation when using a lot of files]
>
> >The problem you would likely hit would not be of fragmentation, but
> >rather of the directory in use growing in size, perhaps getting rather
> >inefficient to access.
>
> One word: reiserfs.
>
> reiser gracefully handles directories containing 10 000 or more files.
reiserfs _is_ more graceful at handling this sort of thing, and as it
gets closer to getting included in "official" kernels, it's getting
pretty useful. [I've got a reiserfs partition that's about a year and
a half old, myself...]
Keeping the size of the directory down by creating some hierarchy can
still be somewhat valuable in keeping the number of files that get
listed when you do a directory listing down to something
not-too-outrageous.
I'm not too interested in doing:
% cd /wherever
% ls
[and 15,000 filenames scroll by...]
:-]
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Rules of the Evil Overlord #91. "I will not ignore the messenger that
stumbles in exhausted and obviously agitated until my personal
grooming or current entertainment is finished. It might actually be
important." <http://www.eviloverlord.com/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linux API
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:41:08 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) writes:
> In article <gJJQ5.9479$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >[Look at <http://www.clienux.com/> for something of an example of
> >such; when people propose the idea of building their own distribution,
> >cLIeNUX is the example I cite, as it actually _is different_, unlike
> >most proposals that represent thinly veiled "hacks of Red Hat" or
> >"hacks of Slackware" or such...]
>
> Rick's "I'm a k3wl h4X0R and I can do !3133t! global
> search-and-replace" one? Dunno. Never could stomach BBS kiddies...
The main merit of it, to my mind, is not in it directly being vastly
useful, but rather in the fact that it takes _such_ different tacks,
between:
a) Doing pretty odd translations in LIBC,
b) Having its own init that seems somewhat Forth-based,
c) Just generally _actually being a different userspace_ than is
traditional.
I'm not sure his choices are necessarily spectacularly wise or
manifestly sensible; the point is that they are Truly Quite Different.
As distinct from the comparatively trivial tweaking that usually
results in people fighting over whether they should use BSD init or
SysV init...
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For example, if errors are detected in one of the disk drives, the system
will allow read-only access to memory until the problem is resolved. This,
PE claimed, prohibits a damaged disk drive from entering errors into the
system.
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Subject: getty - serial - com1
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:01:17 +0800
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I See Myself Run)
Date: 30 Nov 2000 02:06:51 GMT
Subject: help linux help
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who are joining the Internet and news groups everyday and are willing to give
it
a try?
Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of
those joining the actual Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and
this will work.
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