Linux-Development-Sys Digest #756, Volume #8     Tue, 29 May 01 11:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  how to access physical memory at specified address? (Christoph Pacher)
  Looking for a software development tool ("Krithika Chidambaram")
  gcc 2.95, segfault when throwing exceptions (_eh_rtime_match) ("Dirk-Jan C. Binnema")
  Re: Did not find COAS?? ("psy")
  Re: sockets ("Gregory T. Dunlap")
  Looking for MTD driver for MachZ(ZFx86) IDS ("sang")
  Getting CURRENT load average ("Cameron Kerr")
  system ticks in linux (shanaz)
  Re: Does /sbin/dump in RedHat 7.1 ever hang for anyone? (Anonymous)
  Re: how to access physical memory at specified address? (Vyacheslav Burdjanadze)
  Stack size of kernel_thread (Hanspeter Halle)
  Why does anacron execute jobs twice? (Anonymous)
  Re: gcc 2.95, segfault when throwing exceptions (_eh_rtime_match) (Nix)
  Re: Why does anacron execute jobs twice? ("Peet Grobler")
  Re: Did not find COAS?? (Massimiliano Caovilla)
  Re: what does the prefix "__" mean (Vyacheslav Burdjanadze)
  Re: Lilo question ("Hugin")
  Re: fast disk writes (Alexander Viro)
  Re: how to access physical memory at specified address? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= 
David)
  Re: mtrr: type mismatch (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= David)

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From: Christoph Pacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to access physical memory at specified address?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:03:21 +0200

hi !

I need to read/write memory blocks at a specified address space to test
DRAM chips. Is there a possibility to prevent the kernel (and
applications) from using/allocating predefined memory blocks? If there
another way except using /dev/mem to access then that memory block?

Do you know any open source memory test programs?

many thanks for your help!

Christoph Pacher
Inst. of Solid State Electronics
Technical University Vienna, Austria


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Reply-To: "Krithika Chidambaram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Krithika Chidambaram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for a software development tool
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:49:23 GMT

Hi,
  I am looking for a tool to develop GUI on Linux platform to do Rapid
Application Development(RAD) with good IDE like Visual Studio (Visual Basic,
Visual J++,etc).
I would really appreciate  if someone could help me find it.
Thankyou,
Sukumar



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From: "Dirk-Jan C. Binnema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gcc 2.95, segfault when throwing exceptions (_eh_rtime_match)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:15:47 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all,

I'm having some troubles with GCC 2.95 and exception handling; when an
exception gets thrown, my program segfaults in _eh_rtime_match; this is
related to exception handling, I think.

I've been experimenting a bit with -fnew-exception, -fsjf-exception and
-fsjf-no-exception (sp?), but so far, it doesn't seem to work; I might me
the case that some other parts of my code may have been compiled with
different exception-related flags.

So - does anybody recognize this problem? What can I do?

Cheers, 
        Dirk-Jan <d j c b < at > d d s < dot > n l>

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From: "psy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Did not find COAS??
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:56:00 -0400

Hi Massimiliano,

thanks for your reply!  Yes I did try what you suggested to me.  However,
for a reason that I ignore, it did not work...  How do I manually install
them?  I mean where exactly?  And yes, on D-Link website they do indicate
that it is VIA Rhiner.

--
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"Massimiliano Caovilla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message
news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> psy wrote:
> >
> > Select COAS from the KDE menu
> > Choose network, then Ethernet interfaces
> > Select new device and choose VIA Rhine PCI driver.
>
> Sorry, don't know COAS but I can tell you that I also have a via-rhine
> card:
> u will have to recompile the modules from the package you downloaded and
> manually install them. THEN you could us COAS or whatever to configure
> it.
> Seen the answer I posted to your previews messages as M.C. enicon?
> I think it applies.
>
> Ciao, Massimiliano



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Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:21:51 -0500
From: "Gregory T. Dunlap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,linux.redhat.development
Subject: Re: sockets


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I've read the Stevens book and it is ok, but your should try "Linux
Programming" put out by WROX Press.  It had a chapter on Socket Programming
but it goes through the steps and builds up.  The Stevens book does a lot of
macros for UNIX Sys V.  The Linux book also has info for TCL, and other
programming.  I also have a chat client and server written in C++ using
sockets in Linux that run in the terminal if you want a copy.

Later,
Greg

Darren wrote:

> Hello. I am looking for some info on socket programming for Linux. I assume
> from the man pages it is similar to Winsock programming. Can anyone direct
> me to a decent document on the subject as I find the man pages lacking
>
> Thank you
>
> Darren

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I've read the Stevens book and it is ok, but your should try "Linux Programming"
put out by WROX Press.&nbsp; It had a chapter on Socket Programming but
it goes through the steps and builds up.&nbsp; The Stevens book does a
lot of macros for UNIX Sys V.&nbsp; The Linux book also has info for TCL,
and other programming.&nbsp; I also have a chat client and server written
in C++ using sockets in Linux that run in the terminal if you want a copy.
<p>Later,
<br>Greg
<p>Darren wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hello. I am looking for some info on socket programming
for Linux. I assume
<br>from the man pages it is similar to Winsock programming. Can anyone
direct
<br>me to a decent document on the subject as I find the man pages lacking
<p>Thank you
<p>Darren</blockquote>

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From: "sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for MTD driver for MachZ(ZFx86) IDS
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:35:32 +0900

Hello?

Does anybody have linux MTD driver for MachZ(ZFx86) IDS system
from http://www.zflinux.com/?

Thanks,
Sang



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From: "Cameron Kerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Getting CURRENT load average
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:19:01 +1200

Hello, I've been code surfing all afternoon trying to find
a way to do the following...

I need to make a program to retrieve the current laod average of the
system (This is for cluster computing, I want to find the least busiest
machine). The best I can find is the look at the stats in /proc/loadavg.

However, the information there is rather undesirable, since its a
sliding/decaying average over at least 1 minute. I would like it so that
after the load had gone, the information I am able to give is more
accurate, rather than having to wait for the load average to dacay.

Looking at the kernel source, I'm thinking about the best I could do
would be to write a module or supplement the kernel so that it calculates
the average over a smaller timeslice, say 5 seconds.

Is this the best way to proceed, or is there something better?

Thanks in advance,
-- 
Cameron Kerr -- cameron.kerr @ paradise.net.nz
Praise Slackware, our baud and saviour!
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From: shanaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: system ticks in linux
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 05:30:02 -0000

hello i am working on an embedded linux. 

i need to in know which particular file/functions the system tick is 
generated.and also if real time clock is necessary to generate it or is it 
that it just takes it the initial value from a register at boot up and 
from then on it generates on its own?

since i am a beginner i am rather unware of certain basic things so any 
information will be very helpful

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Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:55:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Does /sbin/dump in RedHat 7.1 ever hang for anyone?
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I still have the problem with dump
hanging even after I upgraded to 0.4b22 using
the sourceforge RPM.

jman8086 wrote:
> 
> Yes, I had the same problem.  I went to
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dump/ and saw that there was a bug
> report opened for this problem.  It turns out that it was a problem
> with the compiler and it was fixed in the latest version.  I
> downloaded the latest version (0.4b22)in RPM form from sourceforge and
> it works great.

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Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:22:43 +0400
From: Vyacheslav Burdjanadze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to access physical memory at specified address?

Christoph Pacher wrote:

> If there
> another way except using /dev/mem to access then that memory block?

No. Just mmap(/dev/mem) at specified location and do read/write.

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From: Hanspeter Halle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Stack size of kernel_thread
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 10:15:17 +0200

Hi,
does anybody know how to increase the memory avaliable for the stack of a
kernel_thread (kerbnel 2.2 and 2.4)?

Thanks, Hanspeter


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Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 05:09:16 -0400
Subject: Why does anacron execute jobs twice?
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a script in /etc/cron.daily

If I boot my computer a little past 12 midnight.
anacron executes my job right away, then it
executes it again at 04:20 am.

/etc/crontab contains:

SHELL=/bin/bash
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
MAILTO=root
HOME=/

# run-parts
01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily
22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly

Anyone understand what's going on?
Why is anacron executing my job in /etc/cron.daily
twice?

If I just leave my computer on for a 24 hour
period and never boot it a little after midnight,
anacron behaves as it should and only executes
my script once every 24 hours as it should.

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From: Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]>
Subject: Re: gcc 2.95, segfault when throwing exceptions (_eh_rtime_match)
Date: 29 May 2001 08:18:18 +0100

On Tue, 29 May 2001, Dirk-Jan C. Binnema said:
> I'm having some troubles with GCC 2.95 and exception handling; when an
> exception gets thrown, my program segfaults in _eh_rtime_match; this is
> related to exception handling, I think.

Ouch.

> I've been experimenting a bit with -fnew-exception, -fsjf-exception and
> -fsjf-no-exception (sp?), but so far, it doesn't seem to work; I might me
> the case that some other parts of my code may have been compiled with
> different exception-related flags.

It looks very much like that's true. The various exception handling
flags are not intercompatible; if you compile part of your program with
those flags, all of your program *must* be using the same eh scheme, or
no scheme at all. Definitely, on Linux platforms, the C library must be
built with the same eh scheme as the program actually uses (because of
an ugly hack where some of the eh functions get sucked into the C
library from libgcc2 when the C library is built).

Exception handling tables are a global property of the program, because
of the need to throw across translation unit boundaries; they can't
change form within a single process.

> So - does anybody recognize this problem? What can I do?

I've never seen it, but it's quite obvious what's happening:

,----
| /* Support code for all exception region-based exception handling.  */
| 
| int
| __eh_rtime_match (void *rtime)
| {
|   void *info;
|   __eh_matcher matcher;
|   void *ret;
| 
|   info = *(__get_eh_info ());
|   matcher = ((__eh_info *)info)->match_function;
|   if (! matcher)
|     {
| #ifndef inhibit_libc
|       fprintf (stderr, "Internal Compiler Bug: No runtime type matcher.");
| #endif
|       return 0;
|     }
|   ret = (*matcher) (info, rtime, (void *)0);
|   return (ret != NULL);
| }
`----

Since you're segfaulting in __eh_rtime_match() and not in something it
calls, you're getting something comprehensible back from
__get_eh_info(), but it's not an __eh_info structure, and its
match_function pointer isn't a pointer to a function at all.

Something is seriously screwed up. I'd make sure first that everything
which your program uses is using the same eh scheme; I expect that that
will fix it.


(Oh yes, as a derived work of GCC, this post is GPLed ;) )

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From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: Re: Why does anacron execute jobs twice?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:20:43 +0200

When you switch on your computer, anacron will run all jobs that cron did
not run. Which is the first run. Then, comes 04:20, cron runs the job, as it
should. Run # 2.

You can try finding fcron. It will run a job after a certain amount of
uptime, which might help you...

Anonymous wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have a script in /etc/cron.daily
>
>If I boot my computer a little past 12 midnight.
>anacron executes my job right away, then it
>executes it again at 04:20 am.
>
>/etc/crontab contains:
>
>SHELL=/bin/bash
>PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
>MAILTO=root
>HOME=/
>
># run-parts
>01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
>02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily
>22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
>42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly
>
>Anyone understand what's going on?
>Why is anacron executing my job in /etc/cron.daily
>twice?
>
>If I just leave my computer on for a 24 hour
>period and never boot it a little after midnight,
>anacron behaves as it should and only executes
>my script once every 24 hours as it should.
>
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From: Massimiliano Caovilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Did not find COAS??
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:28:51 GMT

psy wrote:
> 
> Hi Massimiliano,
> 
> thanks for your reply!  Yes I did try what you suggested to me.  However,
> for a reason that I ignore, it did not work...  How do I manually install
> them?  I mean where exactly?  And yes, on D-Link website they do indicate
> that it is VIA Rhiner.

First of all: give it up looking for COAS,it's a Caldera thing: you have
RedHat, and thought them both are GNU/Linux they are quite different
beasts.
 You should tell me WHAT goes wrong with it,then I can be more
helpfull..
Does the package fail to uncompress, to compile... you get an unresolved
symbol while launching modprobe?

        Massimiliano

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Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:29:12 +0400
From: Vyacheslav Burdjanadze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what does the prefix "__" mean

Christopher Fairbairn wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> yingyi wrote:
> > actually i'm looking at the schedule_tail function in sched.c, this
> > function just call the __schedule_tail function, which is defined in
> > the same file. the only difference is __schedule_tail is defined as
> > static. Why make much a differenciation?
> 
> I don't know in that case.....
>
In most cases if you found some_func() and __some_func() then
some_func() is just
wrapper for __-prefixed function, and main purpose of it - is to protect
call to __ with semaphores, mutexes or something else.

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From: "Hugin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo question
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:38:02 +0200

Hello,

It's not a "real" SCSI card, eg. its an IDE Raid card: Promise FastTrak100.
Its got its own BIOS, and I have windows installed on a 90GB raid array,
which boots just fine if my MB-bios is set to boot SCSI.

MB-BIOS and OSes treats it as a SCSI card. My problem is that the controller
is not supported under linux, so lilo can't see it. Therefore I cannot add a
bootline to lilo either. If you know how, please let me know!

Thanks!


"Frank Ranner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hugin wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > My bios is set to boot in this sequence : "A,C,SCSI"
> > If I install Lilo on drive C, is there a way I can
> > make Lilo continue the boot-sequence? Eg. When
> > I start Lilo, it displays the different Linux-startups.
> > Can I then make Lilo quit(?), and make it continue
> > on the booting sequence set by BIOS (eg. SCSI)?
> >
> > My possible solution: I think (actually know) A is
> > assigned 0x80. So I guess C is assigned 0x81
> > and SCSI 0x82. How can I append a line to
> > lilo.conf to make it boot the 0x82 device? I've
> > tried this line:
>
> The floppy is actually bios device 0x00, the first hard disk
> is 0x80 and the second, 0x81. This means that the first scsi disk,
> with scsi id 0 should be the second bios disk, but (the small print)
> only if the scsi card has its own bios, and you have jumpered or
> programmed it to install its own bios. Lilo (the boot loader) does not
> support any disk controllers, it uses int 13 (BIOS calls) to access
> disks.
>
> So, does your SCSI card output any messages when it starts?
>
> What SCSI card do you have?
>
> Regards,
> Frank Ranner
>
>
> >
> > disk=/dev/sda bios-0x82
> >
> > but with no luck. My problem is that linux don't
> > support my SCSI controller, an thus lilo cant see
> > the device I wish to boot from. Thus it's impossible
> > to run lilo, as it won't install the new lilo.conf version...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > BTW: If anyone wonders why, I posted earlier on
> > the same problem under the title: "WinNT boot
> > and Lilo boot" )Windows is on the SCSI array.)



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Subject: Re: fast disk writes
Date: 29 May 2001 10:11:31 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
cLIeNUX user <r@cLIeNUX.> wrote:

>I thought Linux' first filesystem was Minix, and Remy Card wrote ext2 ON a
>Minix filesystem?

Minix filesystem is a toy version of v7 fs with block bitmap added in the
beginning of the disk. Ext2 consists of cylinder groups, each with its own
fragment of inode and block bitmaps and inode table - the main improvement
introduced by FFS. Directory layout is straight from FFS, except for the odd
decision to use block boundaries instead of sector ones for alignment and 
dropping terminating \0 from entry names. Hell, a lot of algorithms are
exactly the same (inode allocation, directory handling, yodda, yodda).

The only thing ext2 and minixfs share is a distant common heritage - they
have inodes, they have directories stored the same way as files, they have
similar trees of indirect blocks growing from inode, they have more or
less the same set of attributes in the inodes (albeit minixfs at that time
had only 2 timestamps, too small i_data[], 16bit block numbers, etc.).
Hardly surprising, since all that stuff had been there since _very_ old
days, way before Minix, let alone Linux. Heck, most of that had been in
place since 1969.

Now, ext (also by Remy) was a "minixfs sans the most annoying limitations",
but ext2 is _not_ a modified ext. Completely new beast. RTFM - all of
them have decent descriptions.

Oh, and what was your bet, again?

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to access physical memory at specified address?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:12:27 +0200

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Christoph Pacher wrote:
> 
> hi !
> 
> I need to read/write memory blocks at a specified address space to test
> DRAM chips. Is there a possibility to prevent the kernel (and
> applications) from using/allocating predefined memory blocks? 

Yes. Adding to the kernel prompt mem=128M on a 256MB system leaves the
top 128MB of RAM untouched and you can use them as you wish.

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mtrr: type mismatch
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:19:47 +0200

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Heinz Ruffieux wrote:
> 
> Andre,
> 
> [ruffieux@locarno ruffieux]$ cat /proc/mtrr
> reg00: base=0x00000000 (   0MB), size=16711936MB: write-back, count=1
> reg05: base=0xd0000000 (3328MB), size=16711808MB: write-combining, count=1
> [ruffieux@locarno ruffieux]$
> 
> I'm have an AMD Duron 850 MHz processor, Micro ATX VA (MS6340) Mainboard.
> What specifiction do you need in terms of pci?

As root run lspci -vv and post the result ... sorry to have taken so
long.

I want to know which device is mapped to address 0xd8000000. Anyway the
size fields in your MTRR configuration is strange, right ?


> 
> Hope this is helpfull.
> 
> Thanks a lot
> 
> Heinz
> 
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= David wrote:
> >
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> > Heinz Ruffieux wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Booting the kernel (RH7.1 / Kernel 2.4.2.) I get the following message
> in
> > > the /var/log/messages file:
> > >
> > > May 25 10:19:32 locarno kernel: mtrr: type mismatch for
> d8000000,1000000
> > > old: write-back new: write-combining
> > >
> > > Does anybody know what it is about? Is it related with my CD writer?
> Can
> > > somebody tell me what the message means?
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot
> > >
> > > Heinz
> > >
> > > --
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> >
> > Please provide the output of
> >
> > cat /proc/mtrr
> > lspci -vv
> >
> > AFAI can say, your BIOS is declaring some PCI memory area as write-back,
> > and linux doesn't feel that's safe. What motherboard/processor/pci
> > boards combination you have?

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