> -----Original Message-----
> From: He YunLei [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 2:26 PM
> To: Chao Yu
> Cc: 'Bintian'; 'Jaegeuk Kim'; [email protected]; 
> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] Data lost in Android app for not write new checkpoint
> 
> On 2015/8/6 18:17, Chao Yu wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: He YunLei [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:16 PM
> >> To: Chao Yu
> >> Cc: 'Bintian'; 'Jaegeuk Kim'; [email protected]; 
> >> [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] Data lost in Android app for not write new 
> >> checkpoint
> >>
> >> On 2015/7/31 18:49, Chao Yu wrote:
> >>> Hi Bintian,
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: He YunLei [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 10:29 AM
> >>>> To: [email protected]; Jaegeuk Kim
> >>>> Cc: Chao Yu; [email protected]; Bintian
> >>>> Subject: [f2fs-dev] Data lost in Android app for not write new checkpoint
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>  Recently I did some test with f2fs on my Android phone, and found a 
> >>>> problem
> >>>> which I didn't know how to tackle it.
> >>>>  I use my Android phone with /data partition formatted  by mkfs.f2fs. 
> >>>> When the
> >>>> phone just started, I check the f2fs status by reading the file
> /sys/kernel/debug/f2fs/status
> >>>> in debugfs.
> >>>>
> >>>> CP calls: 10
> >>>> GC calls: 19 (BG: 19)
> >>>>      - data segments : 19 (19)
> >>>>      - node segments : 0 (0)
> >>>>
> >>>>  We can see /data partition has done 10 times write_checkpoint since 
> >>>> f2fs is mounted
> >>>> on the phone, it also has triggered 19 times background GC.
> >>>>
> >>>> ******
> >>>>
> >>>> Here I took some photos consecutively, and check the file 
> >>>> /sys/kernel/debug/f2fs/status
> again
> >>>>
> >>>> ******
> >>>>
> >>>> CP calls: 10
> >>>> GC calls: 20 (BG: 20)
> >>>>      - data segments : 20 (20)
> >>>>      - node segments : 0 (0)
> >>>>
> >>>>  there is no change in CP calls number and background GC doesn't write 
> >>>> new checkpoint.
> >>>> if then a sudden power failure or system crash occur, the photos will be 
> >>>> lost when the
> phone
> >>>> restart, and a sync before crash will avoid the data lost.
> >>>>  I think this problem is bad for user experience of using Android phone 
> >>>> with f2fs.
> >>>> How do we deal with such situation? I wish you and other developers in 
> >>>> this list could
> help
> >>>> me in a correct way.
> >>>
> >>> IMO, it's better to figure out whether this is a bug of f2fs first or not.
> >>>
> >>> You can enable some traces in f2fs to see whether fsync is called or not.
> >>>
> >>> enable trace by:
> >>> echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/f2fs/f2fs_sync_file_enter/enable
> >>> echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/f2fs/f2fs_sync_file_exit/enable
> >>> print trace by:
> >>> cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace
> >>>
> >>> If fsync is not be called, I think in ext4 there must be the same problem,
> >>> but I guess fortunately journal commit thread save its data since it 
> >>> commit
> >>> transaction per 5 second by default. You can try to configure 
> >>> (commit=nrsec)
> >>> it with larger value for verification the issue with ext4 filesystem.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I enable the event xxx_sync_file_enter both in f2fs and ext4, and find 
> >> neither of
> >> them was triggered by photo files.
> >>
> >> Then I try f2fs_writepages and ext4_da_write_pages:
> >>
> >>      ino     file_name
> >>
> >>      65573   IMG_20150804_031619.jpg
> >>      65575   IMG_20150804_031619_1.jpg
> >>      65576   IMG_20150804_031620.jpg
> >>      65577   IMG_20150804_031620_1.jpg
> >>
> >>    ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65573 b_blocknr 0 b_size 0 b_state 
> >> 0x0000 first_page
> 0
> >> io_done 0 pages_written 0 sync_mode 0
> >>    ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65575 b_blocknr 0 b_size 2408448 
> >> b_state 0x0221
> first_page
> >> 0 io_done 1 pages_written 588 sync_mode 0
> >>    ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65575 b_blocknr 0 b_size 0 b_state 
> >> 0x0000 first_page
> 0
> >> io_done 0 pages_written 0 sync_mode 0
> >>    ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65576 b_blocknr 0 b_size 2428928 
> >> b_state 0x0221
> first_page
> >> 0 io_done 1 pages_written 593 sync_mode 0
> >>    ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65576 b_blocknr 0 b_size 0 b_state 
> >> 0x0000 first_page
> 0
> >> io_done 0 pages_written 0 sync_mode 0
> >>    ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65577 b_blocknr 0 b_size 2383872 
> >> b_state 0x0221
> first_page
> >> 0 io_done 1 pages_written 582 sync_mode 0
> >>    ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65577 b_blocknr 0 b_size 0 b_state 
> >> 0x0000 first_page
> 0
> >> io_done 0 pages_written 0 sync_mode 0
> >>
> >> f2fs_writepages doesn't appear in the test of f2fs
> >
> > Weird, was IO triggered from DIO/reclaim path? As Jaegeuk said, it's better
> > to check the IOs in block layer.
> >
>    I am sorry that I leave out f2fs_writepages message for the reason of huge 
> trace log. I repeat
> the test
> several times and now make sure f2fs_writepages is triggered but very little 
> compare to ext4.
> 
>    Another problem is that roll_forward recovery  can just resume writeback 
> files users fsynced ,
> not including
> files whose pages written back by bdi flusher ?

Yes, f2fs only recover files fsynced, not those flushed.

> 
> >>
> >> I also try modify commit=300(default 5), but it doesn't work. Maybe 
> >> somewhere else in ext4
> >> launch the ext4_da_write_pages operation.
> >
> > Maybe it's triggered by bdi flusher, can you try to configure parameters
> > under /proc/sys/vm/ e.g. dirty_writeback_centisecs/dirty_background_ratio
> > for delaying ->writepages in ext4?
> >
> >>
> >> At the end, I try to mount f2fs with disable_roll_forward, when system 
> >> reboot, the f2fs is
> >> inconsistent,
> >> there are several failed check items in fsck.
> >
> > Can you share the log?
> 
> The log is below:
> 
> [FSCK] Unreachable nat entries                        [Fail] [0x64b]
> [FSCK] SIT valid block bitmap checking                [Fail]
> [FSCK] Hard link checking for regular file            [Ok..] [0x0]
> [FSCK] valid_block_count matching with CP             [Ok..] [0x579b6]
> [FSCK] valid_node_count matcing with CP (de lookup)   [Ok..] [0x7b0]
> [FSCK] valid_node_count matcing with CP (nat lookup)  [Fail] [0xdfb]
> [FSCK] valid_inode_count matched with CP              [Ok..] [0x664]
> [FSCK] free segment_count matched with CP             [Ok..] [0x238]
> [FSCK] next block offset is free                      [Ok..]
> [FSCK] other corrupted bugs                           [Fail]

Can you share us more detail information of fsck fixing log? that would be
helpful. :)

> 
> I repeat the test about 5 times, the fsck failed just one time.
> When I use disable_roll_forward mount option, I find some photos don't lose 
> occasionally.
> There are also some incomplete photo files exit on my photo.  Does 
> roll_forward recovery
> think pages written back by bdi flusher is unreliable, and clean them ?

Since we don't know when the data will be flushed and also what part of
file will be flushed, at the time of abnormal pow-cut, the data/metadata
of flushed file can be partial in device. So I don't think it's not
possible for us to recover this kind of file with current fsync/recovery
policy of f2fs.

Thanks,

> 
> Thanks,
> He
> 
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> He
> >>
> >>> As a quick thought, maybe we can add one commit data thread, periodically
> >>> writebacking user data written by user previously, then do checkpoint for
> >>> persistence.
> >>>
> >>> So by this way, at most, we just lose our data for last configured time of
> >>> commit period.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> He
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> .
> >>>
> >
> >
> > .
> >


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