You call this working?

http://www.linux-foundation.org/developer_bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=Linux-HA

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Alan Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dan Gahlinger wrote:
> Never mind, I found out I was right. It *IS* a *KNOWN* bug.
> 2.0.9 fixes it.
> 
> Thanks for nothing.

There is no 2.0.9.  Suse put out something they call 2.0.9.  If it's
fixed in an R1-style configuration, I probably fixed it.  But, I didn't
see ANY evidence of a bug in your logs.  All you sent to me (and the
list) was evidence of a misconfiguration.

You didn't give me you configuration.  How am I to tell what it is?

Your logs were incomplete and indicated a problem with your IP address
resource, and didn't have any filesystem resource mentioned at all, and
you didn't answer my question.

And, if you read the information on configuring the IP address resource,
you'll probably find that you've misconfigured it - in spite of your
"known bug" description.  But, I can't tell, because you didn't provide
even the most basic information needed to solve your problem.

Where did the http:// stuff come from?

Is that somewhere in your configuration?  If so, it doesn't belong
there.  Myself, I can't tell.

The bug report link works for me.  I use it every day.  Sometimes dozens
of times in a day. Other people use it every few days.  Bug reports keep
coming in.  It must work for someone.

There is some semi-bogus redirection going on with those links, but I
can't really fix all of that.  [The OSDL (now Linux Foundation) controls
that web site].  But it works.

There are more than 30K people using Heartbeat.  Is it reasonable that I
should have the email from all those people directed to my personal inbox?

You said none of your emails showed up in the mailing list.  The
evidence suggests otherwise.

Here is the list of all blocked emails for the last month:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue Apr 10 08:55:32 2007
Subject:
=?ISO-2022-JP?B?iq6Pbo+XkKuBaTUwkeOBaoLMg0mDb4NUg32CqjI0jp6K1IKojNKC8I1MgrCCxIKokdKCv4K1gsSC3IK3gUI==?=
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu Apr 12 02:38:14 2007
Subject: LET ME KNOW
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu Apr 12 08:27:58 2007
Subject: DONATION FOR THE LORD
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu Apr 12 19:58:31 2007
Subject: CLAIM YOUR 525,000.00 Euros!!!
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat Apr 14 23:57:27 2007
Subject: PayPal
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun Apr 15 02:04:17 2007
Subject: PayPal
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun Apr 15 04:41:29 2007
Subject: PayPal
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon Apr 16 07:15:53 2007
Subject: You have 1 new ALERT message
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed Apr 18 07:21:29 2007
Subject: Re: [Linux-HA] eDirectory RA contribution
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu Apr 19 09:07:48 2007
Subject: Accept In Good Faith !!
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue Apr 24 02:05:08 2007
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed Apr 25 06:30:14 2007
Subject: Una nuova gamma completa di servizi online  adesso disponibile !
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed Apr 25 06:35:27 2007
Subject: CD
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed Apr 25 10:53:10 2007
Subject: Una nuova gamma completa di servizi online  adesso disponibile !
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu Apr 26 02:27:14 2007
Subject: delivery failed
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri Apr 27 00:52:34 2007
Subject: Returned mail: Data format error
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri Apr 27 03:37:53 2007
Subject: From Mr.Eric Okeke
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri Apr 27 04:54:26 2007
Subject: AWARD 2007 PUBLICATION RESULT BONAZAA!!!!
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat Apr 28 01:56:59 2007
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun Apr 29 11:05:12 2007
Subject: And the 1990s were really bad with metal prices and everything
else.
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon Apr 30 10:33:10 2007
Subject: Rove lost power, so they say.
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon Apr 30 19:26:31 2007
Subject: The old and buggy paging-system was replaced by a more advanced
version which also integrates a search and improved sorting.
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue May  1 05:45:27 2007
Subject: Real approach
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue May  1 11:24:25 2007
Subject:
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue May  1 13:30:19 2007
Subject:  ??? ??? ?? ????? ??? ????? ?? ?????? ????
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed May  2 02:14:31 2007
Subject: ukaokpbghvf
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed May  2 03:03:07 2007
Subject: Re: [Linux-ha-dev] Re: Bug#420637: heartbeat-2: File
descriptor leak?
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed May  2 04:06:16 2007
Subject: american dentist database
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu May  3 02:29:43 2007
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu May  3 03:05:20 2007
Subject: Notificaci?n Urgente
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri May  4 01:08:25 2007
Subject: Delivery reports about your e-mail
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri May  4 08:34:02 2007
Subject: heartbeat-2.0.8-1.src.rpm and /lib64
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri May  4 16:48:55 2007
Subject: [Spam 5.62] American Chiropractor Database
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri May  4 23:52:34 2007
Subject: Message could not be delivered
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat May  5 13:33:24 2007
Subject: =?Big5?B?s9Czebnat1G56rJ7snq3UQ==?=
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat May  5 23:54:33 2007
Subject: So what if you lose arms and calves, And whole men too and gals
galore, Cause Bush and Don love waging war.
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun May  6 21:44:45 2007
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon May  7 00:58:23 2007
Subject: Returned mail: Data format error
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue May  8 01:37:07 2007
Subject: Hi
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue May  8 02:30:24 2007
Subject: Unable to deliver your message
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed May  9 01:23:00 2007
Subject: database of US Pharmacies on sale
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed May  9 03:13:23 2007
Subject: Need to reach Veterinarians in the USA?
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed May  9 12:11:12 2007
Subject: =?Big5?B?pECt07v5rcimszIwMDC79az8pLiqurKjt34=?=
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu May 10 01:20:53 2007
Subject: Delivery reports about your e-mail
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list

I don't see any here from you...

But when I look in the subscription list, there you are...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
And when I look in the list archives, I see 4 posts from you.

# [Linux-HA] heartbeat and drbd problems   Dan Gahlinger
# [Linux-HA] heartbeat runs but doesn't   Dan Gahlinger
# [Linux-HA] Re: Got it up and running, now what   Dan Gahlinger
# [Linux-HA] Re: Got it up and running, now what   Dan Gahlinger


At least some of these posts were replied to by people in the community.
 If you didn't see these replies, maybe you have a spam filtering problem.

So, what's the problem with the lists?  I don't see it.

Were you aware that you should post to mailing lists directly, and not
put your requests into replies to other people's emails.  What you did
was very confusing and very likely to make your emails be ignored.

The way email works, is you should set the subject line to something
meaningful.  If you don't people who get hundreds of emails a day
besides yours might foolishly think your email has something to do with
the subject line on your email.

When you write an email the best thing to do is to create an email
addressed to the mailing list with a subject which describes what you
have observed, as described by http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems.
This link is on the bottom of every single email coming from the mailing
list.  It would be good if you would read it and follow the directions
it contains.

If you send a reply to someone else's email with a subject which has
nothing to do with your problem, but with someone else's, then it will
be ignored by many people, because we're all quite busy.

Even if you reply to someone else's email and change the subject, that
is _also_ confusing because your mailer will remember that it's a reply
and indicate that in your mail headers, which will in turn confuse
people trying to find your new email.  On my mail user agent, it shows
up as in the discussion thread of the original subject.  If I've lost
interest in the original subject, I'll never see your email.

So, by far the best thing is to create a brand new email (not a reply)
and create a descriptive subject line and follow the directions in the
ReportingProblems link.  You'll find that if you do these simple and
very common-sense things that you'll have good results getting help.

There are a lot more people with problems than there are people helping
them.  Please try your best to make it easy on (and not hard on) those
few people.  Trust me, we very much appreciate it.

I have a day job with minimal connection to Linux-HA, and I try and keep
my boss as happy as I can.  I have a wife who is recovering from a trip
to the emergency room at the hospital a few days back.  I have a release
of the Linux-HA software which needs very badly to come out as soon as
we can fix a few important bugs.  Yesterday I took a day of vacation to
fix some things in my house.

The reason I asked you to post to the lists, is because I've been
occupied with these and other things in my RealLife, and cannot reliably
respond to inquiries sent directly to me.

Sending angry replies doesn't increase the probability of an answer to
your question.

-- 
    Alan Robertson 

"Openness is the foundation and preservative of friendship...  Let me
claim from you at all times your undisguised opinions." - William
Wilberforce
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