On 2007-07-12T23:48:25, Alan Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am sorry to have to write this email.

I'm sorry to have to reply to it.

> Unfortunately, there are some members of these mailing lists who have
> acquired a habit of choosing insult over facts, and choosing pejorative
> terms intended to bait, personally hurt and harm the reputations of
> those they address.

I believe those people have names as well.

One can certainly argue about the interpretation of facts, but I do
admit that I criticize the way you (do not) run the project, and that I
feel that is a discussion which needs to happen in public, instead of
silently boiling inside Andrew, you and myself, and maybe some others,
because it does affect the user and development community.

In particular when you start hinting that the SLES heartbeat releases
are lower quality then yours, given that our customers are reading these
lists as well, you're trying to "harm the reputations of those they
address" - not to mention the major consistent contributor to the
heartbeat project over the last couple of years.

I could try to pretend that I have no emotions about it, but I don't
think that would be authentic. I _am_ frustrated, and strongly so. I
won't repeat the reasons why, they've been made numerous times over the
last couple of years.

I can summarize it in one sentence: I think you're a brilliant engineer
and speaker while you're focused, but that I have quite some issues with
your handling of the project leadership role.


Your policy makes sense, I just have two follow up questions:

> Beginning immediately, anyone who chooses insults, ad hominem attacks,
> and so on, will be given one private warning.  The next time they
> violate these rules, their posts will be moderated for a period of one
> month.

Does that include you? And who will do the moderation in a timely,
on-going fashion?


Regards,
    Lars

-- 
Teamlead Kernel, SuSE Labs, Research and Development
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes." -- Oscar Wilde

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