Brian Reichert wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 04:55:29PM +0200, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Brian Reichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
wrote:
>>>  The heartbeat download page says
>> a lot of stuff thats horribly out of date
>=20
> Perhaps.  But, my CentOS installation does have a yum repository
> for 'extras', and that's where I got my initial heartbeat RPM; via
> 'yum install heartbeat'.  Scouring the internet for alternatives,
> when these RPMs seemed canonical for CentOS distributions, didn't
> seem wise.
>=20
>> They're not randomly rolled :-)
>>
>> I've organized for them to be automatically "rolled" for about 18
>> different distro versions from a single tarball and spec file.
>> I'm also the guy that writes a whole lot of the code you're using - so=

>> I claim some legitimacy for doing so :-)
>=20
> I don't mean 'random' in any derogitory way.  But those RPMs are
> different than what the heartbeat project distributes...
>=20
>> Incidentally, if you're after RHEL packages, they're also available. T=
ry:
>>    http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/ha-clustering/RHE=
L_5/ or
>>    http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/ha-clustering/RHE=
L_4/
>=20
> Cool.  Other than this conversation, how would I have learned about
> these RPMs?  Neither the HA project, nor the CentOS project, ever
> mention them...
>=20
>>>  I do note that the RPMs you're directing me to have an altered %pre
>>>  scriptlet; has that been pushed back to the heartbeat project?
>> The spec files are totally different.
>> This one is based on the one used by SUSE (since that's where I work),=

>> but have been modified based on consultation with clustering
>> colleagues at Red Hat.
>=20
> Splendid. :)  Why doesn't the source distribution or CentOS's
> distribution use them?
>=20
> I do have to apologize: I realize my end of this conversation sounds
> snarky.  But:
>=20
> - If people keep re-solving the spec file issues for RHEL5 and
>   CentOS 5, why is the source distribution handing out a broken
>   spec file?
>=20
> - I think I'm describing a legitmate bug, and I think my proposed
>   fix is legitmate.  I'm willing to open a bug report, but I wanted
>   to air this on the mailing lists first.  Instead of being told
>   that my research and effort has merit, I'm told "we solved this;
>   use these custom RPMs we rolled that no one's ever heard of."
>=20
> - If these fixes, that have already been solved by other members
>   of the community, are not pushed back into the distribution, we're
>   doomed to repeat this work endlessly.
>=20
> So - I've opened a bug report, and have a suggested fix.  Hopefully,
> _this_ fix will make it into the distribution (if people agree with
> it, of course), and we can all stop re-discovering this problem...
>=20
>   http://developerbugs.linux-foundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D1869
>=20

Hi Brian,

Seems to me like your gripe should be directed towards the distro's
(Centos) heartbeat maintainer, not towards the developers.

My 2cts: if your not comfortable using non-distro packages, that's
entirely logical, and your free choice. Use the distro's packages and if
there are bugs, get support from them. That's why you use distro-only
packages, no? In other words, file your bug reports there.

Here you'll find the latest packages straight from the developers, and
you can get support straight from the developers as well.

(If you use suse, you're in luck, the developer and the maintainer are
one and the same)

That's how I see it anyway.

regards,

Johan

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