On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Brian Reichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 04:55:29PM +0200, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>  > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Brian Reichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >  The heartbeat download page says
>  >
>  > a lot of stuff thats horribly out of date
>
>  Perhaps.  But, my CentOS installation does have a yum repository
>  for 'extras', and that's where I got my initial heartbeat RPM; via
>  'yum install heartbeat'.  Scouring the internet for alternatives,
>  when these RPMs seemed canonical for CentOS distributions, didn't
>  seem wise.

Nod, I was just being a smart-ass :)

>
>
>  > They're not randomly rolled :-)
>  >
>  > I've organized for them to be automatically "rolled" for about 18
>  > different distro versions from a single tarball and spec file.
>  > I'm also the guy that writes a whole lot of the code you're using - so
>  > I claim some legitimacy for doing so :-)
>
>  I don't mean 'random' in any derogitory way.  But those RPMs are
>  different than what the heartbeat project distributes...
>
>
>  > Incidentally, if you're after RHEL packages, they're also available. Try:
>  >    http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/ha-clustering/RHEL_5/ 
> or
>  >    http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/ha-clustering/RHEL_4/
>
>  Cool.  Other than this conversation, how would I have learned about
>  these RPMs?

I sent out an announcement on the mailing list about RHEL4 a week or
so ago... does that count?

> Neither the HA project, nor the CentOS project, ever
>  mention them...

On the contrary :-)
Look under "Interim releases for many distributions" on the heartbeat
download page.

Unfortunately there had been some internal politics that was
responsible for them being "de-emphasized".
I understand this has been resolved and we'll have a new-and-improved
download page "soon".

>  > >  I do note that the RPMs you're directing me to have an altered %pre
>  > >  scriptlet; has that been pushed back to the heartbeat project?
>  >
>  > The spec files are totally different.
>  > This one is based on the one used by SUSE (since that's where I work),
>  > but have been modified based on consultation with clustering
>  > colleagues at Red Hat.
>
>  Splendid. :)  Why doesn't the source distribution or CentOS's
>  distribution use them?

Only the CentOS guys can answer that question :-)

>
>  I do have to apologize: I realize my end of this conversation sounds
>  snarky.  But:
>
>  - If people keep re-solving the spec file issues for RHEL5 and
>   CentOS 5, why is the source distribution handing out a broken
>   spec file?

The state of the project spec file and the (fundamentally broken) way
it works has been an ongoing issue for a number of years now.
However, as above, it looks like we'll be making some progress there soon.
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