On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Karl W. Lewis<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Dejan Muhamedagic <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:34:40AM -0400, Karl W. Lewis wrote:
>> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Beekhof <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Dejan Muhamedagic<[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 08:38:51AM +0200, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>> > > >> Please refer to the documentation at
>> > > >>    http://www.clusterlabs.org/wiki/Documentation
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Specifically the Configuration Explained documents (the 0.6 version
>> > > >> applies to your version although you are highly encouraged to
>> upgrade
>> > > >> to pacemaker 1.0)
>> > > >
>> > > > It would be good to have that link and short explanation instead
>> > > > of the "not found" error. Or something. The linux-ha.org are now
>> > > > lame whereas they used to be only disorganized.
>> > >
>> > > lge has come to the rescue and fixed that for us.
>> > > thanks lge!
>> > >
>> >
>> > <whisper> It still says "Page not  found." at the top -- but it does also
>> > include the explanation and the appropriate links.</whisper>
>>
>> No need to whisper :) But I find the "Page not found" message
>> good, because actually that is the case.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dejan
>>
>
> I didn't want to seem ungrateful, or unappreciative... from the point of
> view of a clueless user, (I feel quite qualified to speak on this subject,
> and I have the posting history to prove it), that message may be a little
> confusing or off-putting, but that is not as important as providing, as it
> does, the pointers to the need information.
>
> I happened to be trying to configure and test a cluster just before the
> Heartbeat/ Pacemaker split took place, and other issues kept me away from
> this project for a couple of months, and when I came back the ha-linux site
> had sort of disintegrated.  It took me quite some time to get my bearings
> again.  I'm probably not the first person to observe that the thing that
> this project most lacks is comprehensive, well organized documentation.   I
> mean no insult.

None taken.  Historically the documentation has been worse than
non-existant (by virtue of being out of date).

However I would claim that the configuration explained PDF is both
comprehensive and well organized. But it is somewhat true that you
need to know what you're looking for before the PDF is helpful.  Which
is mostly a side-effect of it being primarily a reference.

What we most miss now are guided tours.
Building various example clusters from scratch and explaining the
pitfalls along the way.

I hope to have one for fedora 11 "soon".  It covers the creation of an
active/passive and its conversion to an active/active one using drbd
and ocfs2.

Better late than never :-)

> The three node cluster I now have in production for our web
> server is much more sophisticated and capable that the Heartbeat v1 cluster
> it replaced, but the route to that cluster was an adventure in scrounging
> for clues.  (I live in fear that I have not implemented it correctly, adn
> that some unnoticed error will cause everything  to crash at the worst
> possible moment.)  ;^)
>
> Be well,
>
> Karl
>
>
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