Hi,

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 08:46:22AM -0500, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Dejan Muhamedagic wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 07:53:25AM -0500, [email protected] wrote:
> >> On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Dejan Muhamedagic wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:00:29AM -0500, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Dejan Muhamedagic wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:52:38PM -0500, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>>> I have two older desktop pcs that I have set up with drbd, corosync 
> >>>>>> and pacemaker
> >>>>>> No problems there
> >>>>>> My hat is off to y'all
> >>>>>> Great software
> >>>>>> I have set up the colocation rules so that all apps run on one machine 
> >>>>>> or the other
> >>>>>> If I break the communication link between them I get split-brain
> >>>>>> So I figure stonith suicide is my only option
> >>>>>
> >>>>> suicide is not an option at all. You need a proper fencing
> >>>>> device. And you need redundant communication links.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no say in the matter
> >>>> That is what I was given to work with
> >>>> I think suicide is better that nothing at all
> >>>> I am just having a bit of trouble getting it to work properly
> >>>
> >>> No wonder. suicide cannot work for split-brain. Think about it.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Think about it
> >> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
> >> Got nothing
> >
> > :) There is split-brain. Nodes can't talk to each other anymore.
> > How does a node shoot the other one using suicide?
> 
> With only my one good brain cell is thought the suicide plugin was able to 
> terminate the host it was running on and did not depend on communication 
> with other hosts

But who's to order the fencing action? The node itself? Then both
nodes commit suicide. Or neither. Or perhaps they can each throw
a penny to decide. When split-brain occurs each node will want to
shoot the other one. Unless they suffer from severe depression.

> >> Since I only have the 2 pcs and there is not a chance of
> >> getting more equipment What might you suggest
> >
> > Explain the management/client all the possible consequences of
> > running a (two-node) cluster without fencing. Then get a fencing
> > device. That stuff is really not so expensive anymore.
> >
> 
> Been done
> They laughed more than you did and wanted to dock my pay for wasting time

Well, needless to say, educating the management has never been
easy. But I really don't understand how they expect an HA
solution without expending a few hundred bucks on two more NICs
and two fencing devices. Good luck!

Thanks,

Dejan

> Thanks
> Richard
> 
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dejan
> >
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