Linux-Hardware Digest #205, Volume #9            Mon, 18 Jan 99 00:13:27 EST

Contents:
  Re: linux viruses ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: My partition choice (Ilya)
  Re: Want to do direct install of Redhat 5.2 via FTP since I have Cox@home but am 
stuck in the DUNGEONS OF DOOM !!! SO  HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!!
  Re: My partition choice (James Youngman)
  Help with Micron Millennia (Riva 128ZX and on-board sound ("Preston Crawford")
  Re: Total newbie hardware questions for Linux on 486 (doug)
  Re: FYI: 3Dfx and Linux (Fred Flatstone)
  Re: modem/pppd config-bit 7 set to 0? (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Mac zip support for intel linux? ("Michael A. Irons")
  Re: Where to spend more money to speed up file server? (Rod Roark)
  Re: linux viruses (John Thompson)
  Re: Linux and 486 (Gary Momarison)
  Re: Choosing a HP color printer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How to install ATI 3D RAGE PRO AGP 2X on RH50 (Joseph Kaduc)
  Re: P5A (ali aladdin v chipset) + kernel 2.2.0 pre5 ("Mark Vandersteen")
  Re: LILO trashes Toshiba portable IDE drive ("Greg Kellogg")
  Re: which distribution package do you recommend? (Loren Brookes)
  Re: Ethernet card recommendation--urgent (Michael Schwager)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linux viruses
Date: 17 Jan 1999 19:30:47 GMT

In his obvious haste, Matthew Pound <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: : E-MAIL??? Is this another one of those Goodtimes scaremongering things or
: : something?

:       No, although linux is imune to viruses, it kan however be a 
: carrier for dos/windows viruses as email attatchments are very common 
: now.  That is what it means by scanning email.  Executable attachments. 
: later.

Anyone executing something they received as an e-mail attachment without
checking it out first deserves everything they get.
-- 
|                          |What to do if you find yourself stuck in a crack|
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|in the ground beneath a giant boulder, which you|
|                          |can't move, with no hope of rescue.             |
|    Andrew Halliwell      |Consider how lucky you are that life has been   |
|      Finalist in:-       |good to you so far...                           |
|    Computer Science      |   -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy.|
=============================================================================
|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w-- M+/++|
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire|

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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: My partition choice
Date: 17 Jan 1999 23:04:51 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Alastair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alastair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>BTW - you need a partition for the proc filesystem. It doesn't
>           ^
> ----------|  
> insert don't

> Oops.


Thank you for clarifying and enlightening.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Want to do direct install of Redhat 5.2 via FTP since I have Cox@home but 
am stuck in the DUNGEONS OF DOOM !!! SO  HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!!
Date: 17 Jan 1999 23:11:22 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:>>EXACTLY where everything is)
>>
> I can't  believe my eyes. You actually give him useful information ? Didn't you
> read all the shit he was posting ? Do you think this should be tolerated in any
> way ???
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Answers please in this newsgroup!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------

Get a clue buddy.  DG and Crossbones are
one in the same.

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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: My partition choice
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:18:40 +0000

Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

This question was massively crossposted (tsk, tsk).  Followups
redirected to comp.os.linux.misc.

> I'd like to know if this will work pretty well for a personal
> workstation and if I can improve this setup in any way. Redhat 5.2,
> 9.1GB hard drive.

I have recently upgraded a Red Hat 5.2 system with an 8.4Gb hard
disk.  See below.

> So far, I am thinking about this partition setup.  I will assume
> that the real capacity is about 90% of the pre-formatted 9.1GB
> capacity.
> 
> /swap    512  MB

How much RAM do you have?   512Mb is a lot of swap.  If you want 512Mb
of swap on an x86 system you sould need to use four 128Mb swap
partitions.  (As you know of course, you don't actually mount swap
partitions).

> /tmp     350  MB

That's way more than you need.  I tend to leave /tmp on the root
partition (though this is *not* standard Unix practice), and 100Mb is
enough.  You could go crazy and allow a 200Mb /, or alternativley
allow a 50Mb /tmp, but IMHO you're daft :-)

> /usr     4096 MB

Plenty, unless you have weird stuff in /usr, like every Linux kernel
ever released in /usr/src, or several releases of FreeBSD :-)  But in
that case I would prescribe a separate /usr/src partition.

> /var     1648 MB

Planning a news spool?  If not, this is way too large. If so, you
should have it on a separate physical disk.

> /home    1024 MB

Personally, I have loads of dross in $HOME.  Including my CVS
repository and all my own source code.  Hence I have a large /home
(see below).  

> /        512  MB

*Way* too big.  The smaller the root partition you have, the safer you
are.  If you are palanning to keep a.out and libc5 and libc6 shared
libraries in /lib, plus all the usual root partition stuff, plus some
useful files in /root, then maybe 200Mb is a reasonable maximum for
/.  Otherwise, 120Mb is plenty.  For many systems, 50Mb is enough.

> /proc    48   MB

/proc is a virtual filesystem.  It takes up zero bytes of disk space.
It just looks like more.   All the /proc data is generated on the fly
as you read it.


> I have pretty much made up my mind about /swap. What I'd like to know if
> 1648MB is enough for /var and if I should decrease /usr to give /var more
> space or if this is OK. Also, is 48MB enough for /proc? 350MB for
> /tmp?


See above.  Here is my disk layout for your amusement (/dev/hdc used
to contain most of my files (except /home), before I purchased the
current /dev/hda, an 8.6Gb drive.

$ df | ~/source/tot/tot -e -a 
Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hda3             198601   91445    96900     49%   /
/dev/hda1              10213    1122     8564     12%   /boot
/dev/hda9            4195875 1016506  2962248     26%   /home
/dev/hda2             204908   43460   161448     21%   /mnt/dos
/dev/hda8            2772350 2161242   467747     82%   /usr
/dev/hda7             495714  140192   329921     30%   /usr/src
/dev/hda6             127329   10996   109758      9%   /var/spool
/dev/hdc1              19974      13    18930      0%   /mnt/hdc/1
/dev/hdc2            1031279  541528   437310     55%   /mnt/hdc/2
/dev/hdc3            1014784  790242   172101     82%   /mnt/hdc/3
/dev/hdc4             989740  662413   276197     71%   /mnt/hdc/4
/dev/hdd              514930  514930        0    100%   /mnt/cdrom
0                   11575697 5974089  5041124       0   0        0



Oh, and one more thing; mount /usr read-only.  Remount it read-write
to install packages and compile the kernel (unless /usr/src is
separate).  You'll thank me for it at fsck-time.

Also, note that I haven't taken my own advice; /var/spool contains a
news spool for reading news offline (I use newsx).  However, there's
only ever one reader at a time, so I don't have to have
/var/spool/news and /var/lib/news on separate spindles.

-- 
ACTUALLY reachable as @free-lunch.demon.(whitehouse)co.uk:james+usenet

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From: "Preston Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Help with Micron Millennia (Riva 128ZX and on-board sound
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:21:10 -0700

I just bought a Micron Millennia with a Riva 128ZX on board video driver and
an on-board ESS Maestro AudioDrive sound driver. My question is if anyone
else is using a similar configuration by chance. I setup my Linux on my
other computer with ease (S3 Video and AWE64 Audio) and I'm wondering if I
should just keep Linux on that computer. I want to put it on my new
computer, but I know I can already set it up on my other computer.

Any tips on doing this? Is the version of XServer that comes with RedHat 5.2
the 3.3.1 version?? How big a download is the 3.3.3 version?

Thanks,

Preston



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From: doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Total newbie hardware questions for Linux on 486
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 18:32:16 -0500

I just put RedHat on a 343MB partition on my ThinkPad.
I wanted to learn it also. Of course there is not enough
space for alot of stuff, but it's enough room to get me
started. I think you could get a working basic system on
what you have. Doug

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From: Fred Flatstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
Subject: Re: FYI: 3Dfx and Linux
Date: 17 Jan 1999 17:53:44 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas) writes:

> Hi,
> 
> there is a very interesting post from Gary Tarolli
> on 3Dfx' newsserver:

There's another V.I.P. at

http://www.angelic-coders.com/kshaikh/Article_GlideWrapper.html

The guy relates a story of legal troubles.

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:11:13 -0500
From: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modem/pppd config-bit 7 set to 0?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.ppp

joris dallaire wrote:

> Hello linuxians,
> Below is the log message for a pppd error upon connection with
> kppp:
>
> [root@localhost sbin]# tail /var/log/messages
> Jan 17 04:16:14 localhost pppd[327]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
> Jan 17 04:16:14 localhost pppd[327]: Using interface ppp0
> Jan 17 04:16:14 localhost pppd[327]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cua2
> Jan 17 04:16:44 localhost pppd[327]: LCP: timeout sending
> Config-Requests
> Jan 17 04:16:44 localhost pppd[327]: Connection terminated.
> Jan 17 04:16:44 localhost pppd[327]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit
> clean:
> Jan 17 04:16:44 localhost pppd[327]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0 Jan
> 17
> 04:17:01 localhost pppd[327]: ioctl(TIOCNXCL): Input/output error
> Jan 17 04:17:01 localhost pppd[327]: Exit.
> Jan 17 04:18:14 localhost kernel:PPP: ppp line discipline successfully
> unregistered
>
> What's the matter with the <Receive serial link> having bit 7 set to 0?
> Is my ISP having kind of another standard mask for login on TCP/IP?
> Or is that receive side my own serial device side misconfigured?
> There is that <timeout sending Config-Requests> that makes me believe my
> modem
> may be misconfigured. Then how to check if current setings are
> ok?(system's
> base i/o, irq)? my modem uses 0x03f8, irq 12
>
> Can someone shed some light on these topics? Help
> always greatly appreciated.
> --
> Joris Dallaire   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ:14881544  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/joris.dallaire/
> ................................................................

  Checkout "man stty". You can configure this to match ISP,  ie stop bits,
parity, etc.  "Stty -a" will display current settings, so know what to
tinker with.




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From: "Michael A. Irons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mac zip support for intel linux?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:26:14 -0800

LewisGourlay wrote:

> Is there any program that will read/write mac zips or a recent kernel that
> supports mac filesystems?
> I'm not allowed to use PC format zips in our Uni macs.
> I have bought MacSee for dos and windows, but it is soooo slow and crashes
> quite frequently.
> Alternatively does anyone know whether macs will read any of the Linux
> formats? (I'd then have to find out whether I'd be allowed to put them in
> the drives, of course.)

    Lewis;

  What you want is the HFS module. Their homepage is located at:

http://www-sccm.stanford.edu/Students/hargrove/HFS/

I've used it for reading Mac floppies.


Mike



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From: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.servers,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: Re: Where to spend more money to speed up file server?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 03:09:07 GMT

John Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm looking to set up a linux file server, primarily running samba
>2.0....
>So, where, if anywhere, is it worth spending more money?

Get the book "Samba: Integrating UNIX and Windows" by John D. Blair,
published by SSC.  Best $30 I ever spent.  :-)

-- Rod
======================================================================
Sunset Systems                           Preconfigured Linux Computers
http://www.sunsetsystems.com/                         Starting at $499
======================================================================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    (John Thompson)
Subject: Re: linux viruses
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:54:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In <77tdp7$7v4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>In his obvious haste, Matthew Pound <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:

>:      No, although linux is imune to viruses, it kan however be a 
>: carrier for dos/windows viruses as email attatchments are very common 
>: now.  That is what it means by scanning email.  Executable attachments. 
>: later.

>Anyone executing something they received as an e-mail attachment without
>checking it out first deserves everything they get.

But if you're the person who is responsible for picking up the 
pieces in the aftermath of such an incident surely you might find
it prudent to scan your users' incoming mail for potential
problems before they get to that point...

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and 486
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:07:34 -0800

"James H. Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have purchased an old Everex Server to use as a tool to learn the use of
> Linux and networking.  I only paid a few bucks for it, so if it can't be
> used I wont die.  However, the EISA boards were all removed as well as the
> SCSI controller and Hard drives. What I need to know, is:  Will Linux have a
> problem with the EISA stuff on this box?
>  Also does anyone have a resource for EISA configuration utilities for an
> Everex step 486e box?   If I have to replace the motherboard and build from
> scratch, I will. The case is worth the price I paid for the system.
> However, I would like to get a test system up for as few bucks as possible.
> THanks for any help you may offer.

I've gotten a EISA 486 running Linux. I'm sorry I didn't save much info.
ISA cards run just fine with nothing special done for EISA.
For EISA cards, one must run a gizmo under M$DOS that is "provided" by
the BIOS producer with a config file "provided" by the card producer.

I had to spend hours on AltaVista searching for a newer program than
came with the computer to work with the config file that came with
the card.

If your Everex uses an AMI BIOS, you'll be looking for something like
ecu.exe or cfg.2.01.exe . You might have some luck looking on the
home pages of the BIOS and card makers.

I don't know what this is: http://lin.fsid.cvut.cz/ftp/drivers/eisa

-- 
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Choosing a HP color printer
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:52:55 GMT



> Johan Pelgrim wrote:
>
> > I'm about to buy a color printer.
> > Since I have good experience with my HP Deskjet 500, I think it's going
> > to be a Hewlett Packard again.
> >
> > I've heard some bad stories about windows-only printers and don't want
> > to make that mistake.
> > So has anyone good experiences with one of the following printers:
> > HP 420C
> > HP 670C
> > HP 710C
> > HP 720C
> > Which one is the best?
> >
> > Jaap Voets

Avoid the 700 series.  They are brainless printers that use a proprietary
protocol that's unsupported by the standard Linux utilities.  I suspect the
400 series may be the same as they are ultra low cost printers.  The 600
series work well however.  I have a venerable 660c and it works fine.

Jeff

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph Kaduc)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to install ATI 3D RAGE PRO AGP 2X on RH50
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 05:35:51 GMT

"Johnny El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi all
>I cant install the display adapter ATI 3D RAGE PRO AGP 2X on RH50.
>anyone have an idea how this can be done?
>TIA,
>Johhny El


With much help and trial and error
my card installed and is working great.
It required XFree86-Mach64- 3_3_3-1_i386.rpm
to have Rage 11C as a setup menu choice.
List of cards that work found at:

http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.3/Mach645.html#5

The upgrade to 3.3.3 took 12 rpms
starting with VGA 16 and XF86Setup from:

ftp://rawhide.redhat.com/i386/RedHat/RPMS

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/XFree86-3.3.3-SuSE/xmach64-3.3.3-3.i386.rpm

Needed to rpm -U file.rpm


__

Joseph Kaduc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http:/www.sentex.net/~kaduc

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From: "Mark Vandersteen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: P5A (ali aladdin v chipset) + kernel 2.2.0 pre5
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:09:26 +1030

look at:

http://www.dyer.vanderbilt.edu/server/udma/


Sven Terhurne wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>does anyone now if the ali aladdin chipset is supported by the current
>kernel?
>or is there a patch?
>
>thanks
>
>Sven Terhurne
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>



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From: "Greg Kellogg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: LILO trashes Toshiba portable IDE drive
Date: 18 Jan 1999 04:54:28 GMT

Try booting to a Linux floppy and run fdisk from there, check your FS Types,
I bet it says unknown, change hda1 (or wherever windows is) to the system
type you have and then set it active, it should boot.   I have a a toshiba,
and it is _very_  unlikely lilo did anything permanent to your drive.

gk

Dominick Samperi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>"M. Buchenrieder" wrote:
>>
>> Dominick Samperi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> >I recently installed Linux and Windows NT 4.0 on a Toshiba 4025CDT and
>> >they both seemed to run, provided I boot Linux from a floppy. Then I
>> >ran the Slackware 3.1 CDROM install (the only CDROM I had) and made the
>> >mistake of asking the setup program to place LILO in the master boot
>> >record. After this no OS would boot, and the drive was inaccessible,
>> >even by fdisk. The drive was effectively destroyed.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Does it say "unable to open /dev/hda" ? If so, try booting with a DOS
>> system floppy or a Win95 boot floppy and run "fdisk /mbr" .
>>
>> Michael
>> --
>> Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
http://www.muc.de/~mibu
>>           Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
>
>I tried that. If I boot dos and type fdisk I got the message "error
>accessing device" and it terminated. fdisk /mbr did not help. I had to
>replace the machine. I installed everything on the new machine and
>NT and Linux now work, but I have to start Linux with a floppy. I did
>not touch the MBR this time, of course.
>
>If I try to start Linux by making its partition active this does not
>work.
>I get the message "no operating system". I have to use Toshiba's
>companion diskette to format a partition that the MBR will sucessfully
>jump to. I guess when Toshiba said they do not support dual boot
>configurations this was not simply a way to make life easier for their
>technical support people.
>
>My best guess is that all of this headache is due to a subtle copy
>protection scheme for Windows98 (which I delete!).
>
>Dominick
>
>--
>Dominick Samperi
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Loren Brookes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: which distribution package do you recommend?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:06:06 +1300

"M. Wimmer" wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I collected some general information about linux on the internet, but I must
> admit, that I am a 100% newbie in this field. I would like to "learn by
> doing" about this powerful operating system.
> Can you recommend a distribution package?
> It should cost less than about 20 Euros.
> It should be run off my second, smaller SCSI - HD (Controller NCR C810 is
> supported).
> It must support my Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM graphics card and Panasonic CR
> 581-M CD-ROM drive.
> Maybe there is a package with a very comfortabel user interface?
> I am a medium experienced USER of Windows 95.
> 
> Best regards and many thanks for your suggestions
> 
> Manfred Wimmer
> Remove "no_garbage_mails_" from the adress to reply by eMail.

RedHat 5.2 is *very* easy to set up.

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From: Michael Schwager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.networking,redhat.networking.general,iu.linux
Subject: Re: Ethernet card recommendation--urgent
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:08:41 -0800

jedi wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:55:12 -0330, Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I reccomend an EtherFast 10/100 LAN Card by Linksys.
> >
> >It uses the tulip.c driver that comes with kernel 2.0.36 .
> >
> >You can also download the driver from their website.
> >
> >The card works very well on my system.
> 
>         Check the back of the box. Linux will be listed there
>         if it is a compatible card...
> 
>                 ...that's the major reason I'm partial to LinkSys.
> 
> >
> >Neil
> >
> >On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Jan Stifter wrote:
> >
> >> [...]
> >> Shane Bearham wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "Larry Herzog Jr." wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Nothing like a good old WD8013 series card....never fails me
> >> > even performs admirably, it's programable or jumpered &
> >> > around here I can pick them up for $3-$5 each at swap meets
> >> >
> >> > Shane ()
> >>
> >> I can recommend the Fast EtherRx PCI 10/100TX card of Kingston.
> >> just turn on the DEC-Tulip option in the kernel and it works perfect...
> >>
> >>
> >> jan
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> | Jan Stifter                    email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]           |
> >> |                                web:   www.htl-bw.ch/~ia95stif     |
> >> | meet me: telnet://freechess.org:5000  (nick: nunc)                |
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
> --
>                 Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
> 
> Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or         |||
> is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out   / | \
> as soon as your grip slips.
> 
>         In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com

I personally have had great success with the netgear cards, which also
use the tulip.c drivers.  I got mine for ~$20 or ~$30 (maybe more) at
fry's in portland, OR.  I also have a 3com 3c905b-tx, which has given me
a tough time getting working in linux, but fine under '95.

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