Linux-Hardware Digest #810, Volume #9 Mon, 22 Mar 99 22:13:37 EST
Contents:
Re: Is Windows for idiots? (Re: X munges the graphics card?) (Henning Strandin)
Re: RH5.2, SoundBlaster and mpg123 (Wayne Parrott)
New Travan Tape Drive was: Eagle Exabyte TR-3 Parallel Port Support.
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mounting vfstype fat32? (Richard Finney)
Re: Multi-channel soundcard for Linux (Byron A Jeff)
3Com 509 won't go (detailed!) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: maxi gamer phoenix (Aidan Keady)
Re: boot linux out of an eprom (Louis)
Re: Burning.... (Joel Ebel)
Re: DVD movies? (Alex Taylor)
BW QuickCam on Linux 2.2.3... --==HEEEEELLLLP!!!==-- (was Re: Xlib: extension
"MIT-SHM" = ?) ("USENET")
Re: Serial mousepad (Henry)
Re: Are there any USB drivers for Kernel 2.2.x? (Drew Tennenbaum)
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From: Henning Strandin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Is Windows for idiots? (Re: X munges the graphics card?)
Date: 19 Mar 1999 20:15:02 GMT
Ed Falis wrote:
>
> <1104_921461409@DZOG-CHEN> <7cireg$f3s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> On 15 Mar 1999 11:37:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph T. Adams) wrote:
>
> > I hope you're not trying to say that you're using Intel PCs (never
> > mind Windows) in safety-critical applications? They are not designed
> > for such use.
> >
> > Joe
>
> Our products are the development systems for such applications. So far, I haven't
>seen a vanilla PC used for a safety-critical application itself, though there are some
> customers getting pretty close with things like PC 104 boards do
>moderate-criticality things. We do have customers using 32-bit x86 processors in
>custom board
> configurations for high-criticality applications.
Just as a sidenote, there are plenty of minicomputer replacements based
on the ix86 architecture around. For example, Data Generals intel based
MPC twin hot-failover systems (running DGUX) are quite reliable. Of
course they're not really in the PC price range, but they're Pentium
based nonetheless. I have yet to see for myself a succesful "NT cluster"
though (I'm sure there are some by now, I just haven't seen one. I know
that they had plenty of problems with those initially).
> As far as the crashing issue, in a development environment it's generally not that
>big an issue. I've experienced very few of these under NT4 and the NT 5 ("win 2000")
> betas, never with impacts on data. When I say very few, I mean on the order of
>three times over a period of 9-12 months, if that many.
>
> - Ed
--
"The world will little note nor long remember what we say here"
- A. Lincoln
Henning Strandin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wayne Parrott)
Subject: Re: RH5.2, SoundBlaster and mpg123
Date: 23 Mar 99 01:20:51 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It Sounds like you FTPed the file to your Linux box in ASCII mode try sending
it again but make sure you set it to binary transfer.
>Hello everyone,
>At work I have a Pentium 160 (not MMX) and I'm using RH5.2.
>I installed an old 8-bit SoundBlaster card (ISA) in this machine
>and got it working using 'sndconfig'. It works fine with
>'soxplay' (.au files) and 'xplaycd'.
>But when I try to play
>.mp3 files using mpg123 (which I downloaded as an RPM from
>linuxberg) I do not get any error messages, but the sound
>is completely scrambled (it is not static, but literaly
>sounds like scrambled communication - lot of intermittent
>hi-pitch sounds and no music content). The same files work
>fine at home (Pentium200MMX+RH5.2+Ensoniq AudioPCI).
>Does mpg123 support 8-bit play-back? or is it something
>to do with the sound driver (currently installed as module)?
>Many thanks.
>-Thas
>-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: New Travan Tape Drive was: Eagle Exabyte TR-3 Parallel Port Support.
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:41:48 GMT
Okay, no takers on this one. Well, I figured it was going to come down to
buying a new tape drive. I want one that will use my current TR-3 and TR-3
Extra tapes, so I am thinking of maybe getting a Travan 4 drive.
Can someone recommend a Travan Drive, which Kernel 2.2.x has sourced-in
drivers for, that I can compile directly into the kernel, and that runs
smoothly, stably, and reliably in a 100% i386 Linux environement.
I am going to buy one next week.
Thanks for any help.
In article <7ckcqe$vsj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Kernel 2.2.3 has all kinds of support for Parallel devices, but as of yet, I
> have been able to find a configuration that will run my old, discontinued,
> Eagle Exabyte TR-3 Parallel port Travan 3 drive.
>
> Does anyone know of a driver, or a combination of kernel options and drivers
> that might actually get this beast running, and backing up my Linux boxes.
> This is the last Windows-era piece of hardware that I have been unable to get
> running under my now complete M$ free LAN.
>
> Eventually I am just going to buy a completely Linux supported Travan drive
> (any suggestions?), but I would at least like to give this a good shot.
>
> Surely someone out there has one of these tape drives, and has gotten it
> spinning?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
============= Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ============
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From: Richard Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mounting vfstype fat32?
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:21:20 -0500
I've got a friend who needs to mount his DOS disk so he can get
the XFree86 stuff which he downloaded. What is the command to mount
a fat32 partition on the second partition on first hard drive?
Thanks!
-Richard Finney
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Crossposted-To: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: Multi-channel soundcard for Linux
Date: 22 Mar 1999 20:38:49 -0500
Hi Mark,
Just wanted to make a couple of points here...
In article <7d5mk6$sj0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, marc lindahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> , Andreas Eggenschwiler
-<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-
->They are not supporting linux. They do support a company that without
->hesitation signs NDAs in order to sell binary only kernel modules. They
->do not release hardware specs but are not honest enough to openly state
->their linux-hostile attitude. On the long run linux will die if there is
-
-If you read our Linux press release (http://www.sonorus.com/press.html), you
-will see we are very straightforward about our cooperation with OpenSound.
Yes you were straightforward. However it seems that the decision has hampered
the progress of a useful system.
-
-We explored many possibilities before going with them, and we felt it was
-the best overall course. If you had ever written drivers for something like
-this, you would know it's a large-scale, ongoing effort -- too big for a
-small company like Sonorus. We have our hands full just dealing with
-Windows.
Which is precisely the reason that Open Source Development is useful. You
create a wide ranging, autonomous development group that drives the development
of the drivers, while you keep your hands full dealing with Windows.
- And, to answer the next point you're going to raise, we didn't
-release our source code, microcode, etc. simply because that's the
-technology that put us in business, we're not about to give it away for
-free.
And we understand that... to a point. Let me see if I can explain...
The Linux community is a bit different than others. We're perfectly happy to
spend money on hardware. Out of necessity we clearly delineate between the
hardware/software interface. This is different than the Windows world were by
necessity hardware and software must by bundled together.
So in this instance the line is at the firmware level. Any microcode or onboard
software required to make the card go should remain a trade secret. Fortunately
it's also completely unnecessary to have in order to do the job required:
interface a device driver to the card.
It's that interface specification that we'd like to see public and without an
NDA. With it, it's possible to write and distribute a driver for your hardware.
A driver mind you that's completely and utterly useless without the purchase
of a card.
And the key point, which maybe if you get a chance you could address, is that
it is difficult, if not impossible, to clone the card with just the interface
specification. In other words an Open Source driver make it no easier to create
a clone product than a closed source driver. The firmware isn't available so
the hardware cannot be easily duplicated.
You also addressed the real issue with open source: support. A legitimate user
can rightly claim that as the hardware manufacturer that it's Sonorus'
responsibility to support Linux drivers. My personal belief is that you must
vigorusly resist any such claims. State it clearly that any open source
drivers are 3rd party products and that any support issues must be taken up
with the author of said driver. You support your Windows drivers period and
will gladly take up any support issues relating to your driver.
The Linux driver community is fairly consistent. They want open source, they
need interface specifications only, they are willing to support what they
write.
-
-That said, we are still open to exploring other possible partnerships,
-perhaps revolving around ALSA or some other approach, so if there are any
-hot shot driver guys out there, feel free to email me privately.
Hope it works out.
BAJ
-
-
-Marc Lindahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-president, Sonorus Inc.
-http://www.sonorus.com
-
-
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: 3Com 509 won't go (detailed!)
Date: 23 Mar 1999 02:50:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I recently bought two used 3Com 509s with the intent of starting to
get my computers at home networked. (I bought them at an "employee hardware
sale" where I work. At first the guy running the sale didn't want to sell
me them because he said they'd been using them to do network installs of Red
Hat on some of the machines. Yes, that is important to know; it implies that
they were working shortly for _somebody_ shortly before I got my hands on
them.)
I put the card in an open ISA slot and I recompiled the 2.2.1 kernel
with 3c509 support. When I tried booting with the new kernel, I got the
messages about
SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
Your ethernet card was not initialized properly...
SIOCADDRT: No such device
and, of course, Linux couldn't see the card. I try recompiling the kernel
and making 509 support a module: same result.
alderamin:/lib/modules/2.0.36/net# modprobe 3c509.o
/lib/modules/2.0.36/net/3c509.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
I heard about the DOS configuration utility, so I grabbed it and ran
it. It told me (not quite verbatim), "You are running an ISA card configured
in EISA mode in an ISA slot. Remove it, put it in an EISA computer, and
configure it to ISA mode there." This is not what I would call helpful
advice. I try turning off my PnP BIOS; it makes no difference.
Fortunately, the Ethernet-HOWTO mentions configuration utilities for
Linux, by Donald Becker. I grab his config utility and run it, and get this:
alderamin:/home/jdw/priv# ./3c5x9
3c5*9 not found at 0x300, status ffff.
If there is a 3c5*9 card in the machine, explicitly set the I/O port
address using '-p <ioaddr>
So I try Mr. Becker's Etherlink III diagnostic program, which says
alderamin:/home/jdw/priv# ./el3-diag
el3diag.c:v0.11 3/16/97 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Looking for card 1.
Generating the activation sequence on port 0x100 for card 1.
Activating the card at I/O address 3f0.
EEPROM contents:
0060 8ceb 3ac3 9050 bac9 0036 4157 6d50 001f 5f00 0060 8ceb 3ac3 1310
0000 ae43An ISA EtherLink III board was activated at I/O 0x3f0, IRQ 5.
ethertest: ioperm(): Invalid argument
Looking for card 2.
Generating the activation sequence on port 0x100 for card 2.
Activating the card at I/O address 3f0.
No ISA EtherLink III boards appear to be at index 2.
Aha...so evidently it _can_ see a card in my machine. I try the
config program again:
alderamin:/home/jdw/priv# ./3c5x9 -p 0x3f0
3c5*9 not found at 0x3f0, status ffff.
If there is a 3c5*9 card in the machine, explicitly set the I/O port
address using '-p <ioaddr>
Hmm...no better! Well, I have another open ISA slot, let's try that
one, maybe this one is bad...nope, same result. I have another card, so let's
try that one...same thing.
I look at /proc/ioports and /proc/interrupts, and I see that IRQ 5 is already
taken by the sound card, and the IO appears to conflict with the floppy drive,
oddly enough. From /proc/ioports: 03f0-03f5 : floppy
So I try disabling the floppy drive in the BIOS, and booting a
kernel without sound support from CD! Still it won't work! Exactly the same
results as before.
So...I am now pretty much stumped. Does anyone have any brilliant
ideas? Or is the best solution simply what one of my coworkers suggested:
"Go down to Fry's Electronics, and put down $20 for a new one..."
Any help is much appreciated.
JD
ps A plague upon the house of 3Com for making cards that aren't configurable
any way except via software, which helps you not at all if the configuration
is already too screwed up for the machine to recognize the card...
--
"Corporations can't teach hacking. It has to be in you."
--Emmanuel Goldstein
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From: Aidan Keady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: maxi gamer phoenix
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:51:27 +0000
news wrote:
>
> Do you know if my graphic card (maxi gamer phoenix) can be accept by linux
> rehat.
> If not, do I must change it ?
I've got a Maxi gamer Phoenix also and it's supported by an experimental
driver - try
http://glide.xxedgexx.com/status.html
At the moment, there's only a glibc version, but you should have that
already if you've got V5+ of RedHat. The driver is a bit buggy - seems
to leave trails when windows are moved and the like, but I suppose it'll
get fixed in time.
ATB,
Aidan.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Louis)
Subject: Re: boot linux out of an eprom
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:01:40 GMT
I was checking out this link, thanks. I think i have an
appropriate kernel now.
Now i need some more information about the Bios.
Any ideas ?
email me at: louis at vertigo dot de
>Louis,
>
>Take a look at the smalllinux project (http://smalllinux.netpedia.net)
>
>Regards,
>Leo.
>
>Louis heeft geschreven in bericht <7d61qe$35p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>I'm working on a embedded computer project (private).
>>I found that i have to boot an operating system out of an eprom.
>>Linux would fit all the needs. My question is: how do i get linux
>>to boot out of an eprom instead from HDD.
>>At which adress do i put the rom ? Where does the BIOS jump
>>when it has completed its task ?
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From: Joel Ebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Burning....
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 19:48:07 -0500
I have a yamahe 4260, which is basically the 4416 but a bit slower.
However, it does have an advantage. Time. It is known to be a good
writer, and it has mature firmware. Also it is a bit cheaper. And both
write at the same speed (not rewrite). SO if you want a good one, and
don't need the 4x rewrite, I highly reccommend the yamaha 4260 if you
can find one. And upgrade the firmware to 1.0q if it isn't already.
I'm sure the 4416 isa a good drive, and it will probably be widely
respected in time, and I'm sure it will have mature firmware eventually,
but it's too young to be certain it's got no problems in my opinion.
Good luck,
Joel Ebel
sven the hairy wrote:
>
> Weird, deja didn't post the follow up question I had, just the original
> post........
>
> Any comments/weird experiences/war stories/etc on the Yamaha CRW4416Sx? It
> is expensive, but I think the extra cost is worth it.
>
> sven the hairy wrote in message <7cukhm$4ht$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >I'm interested in buying a cd burner, and I'm concerned about getting one
> >that is ready for linux (i'm almost ready myself, still a few problems yet
> >before I'll convert my main computer though). Any suggestions on particular
> >drives would be a real help. I want one that will burn single-use and
> >multiwrite cds. I've decided on a external scsi, easy to move between
> >machines, but not flakey like a printer-port model would be. Thanks.
> >
> >Any comments on the LACIE 4X4X16 CD-RW PC/MAC EXT SCSI?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Taylor)
Subject: Re: DVD movies?
Date: 23 Mar 1999 02:26:58 GMT
On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:49:15, "Amaury JACQUOT [BILL]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First thing is to annoy :-) the hardware makers to get the docs for the
> mpeg2 cards.
>
> Ryan McGeary wrote:
> >
> > what are the chances that I could get my DVD movies running under linux in
> > the near future? if the chances are high, how would I do such a thing?
This may be a silly question, but what about software DVD/mpeg-2 decoding?
How come I've never yet seen that brought up here?
I mean, even under Win you don't absolutely NEED a hardware decoder to watch
DVD movies if you have a fast enough machine. AFAIU, there are software-only
mpeg-2 decoders out there.
I realise it's a bigger job than just writing drivers, but surely the
famous Linux hacker community is up to the task... and with hardware vendors
dragging their heels, it might be easier (or quicker)...
Besides, computers are only getting faster and more powerful. It shouldn't
be that impractical a prospect, right?
..or am I totally clueless?
=================================================================
Alex Taylor BA - CIS - University of Guelph
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
=================================================================
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From: "USENET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BW QuickCam on Linux 2.2.3... --==HEEEEELLLLP!!!==-- (was Re: Xlib:
extension "MIT-SHM" = ?)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 02:41:50 GMT
As you can see by my other post, I figured out how to enable MIT-SHM
extension in eXceed v6.1 for NT.
Now the problem is this:
# modprobe bw-qcam
/lib/modules/2.2.3-5/misc/bw-qcam.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
parport: Device or resource busy
Why is it saying this? I don't have a printer or anything on my parport,
just the BW QuickCam. Howcome it is saying that parport is busy?
p.s.: Here is an lsmod output:
# lsmod
Module Size Used by
parport_probe 2852 0 (autoclean)
parport_pc 5012 0 (autoclean)
parport 6996 0 [parport_probe parport_pc]
videodev 2368 0
sound 58552 0 (autoclean) (unused)
soundcore 2404 3 (autoclean) [sound]
soundlow 300 0 (autoclean) [sound]
ne 6448 1 (autoclean)
8390 5888 0 (autoclean) [ne]
Josh Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<hWCJ2.966$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >I have the source code to this program.
> >http://www.1000klub.com/~loomer/qcam.html is the URL.
> >
> >Think it'd be possible to hack it to check whether the extension is
there
> >and the X server is on the same machine, and use a different display
> >strategy where one of these conditions fails?
>
> Of course. I don't have time to look at your code in detail but
> I took a quick glance and it looks like it tries to figure out
> at compile time whether to use shared memory or not. So
> basically you should be able to do the test at run time and
> replace the #ifdef's with real ifs (assuming there are not
> other bugs).
>
> The runtime test would look something like this:
>
> Display* disp = XOpenDisplay(displayName);
> int has_Shared = XShmQueryExtension(disp);
>
> int ok = has_Shared && onSameMachine(displayName);
>
>
> - Josh
>
>
> /** Not Debugged **/
>
> int onSameMachine(char* displayName)
> {
> int ret=0;
> #define inetAddrLength 4
> if (displayName) {
> char* whereColon = strchr(dispName,':');
> if (whereColon) {
> if (whereColon == dispName) {
> ret = true;
> }
> else {
> const size_t BIGHOSTNAME=256;
> char arr1[BIGHOSTNAME];
> char arr2[BIGHOSTNAME];
> ptrdiff_t sz=0;
> if (gethostname(arr1,BIGHOSTNAME-1) == 0) {
> // arr should hold the name of the local host
> sz = whereColon - dispName;
> char* tptr;
> if (sz > 127) {
> tptr = new char[sz+1];
> }
> else {
> tptr = arr2;
> }
> strncpy(tptr,dispName,sz);
> tptr[sz] = '\0';
>
> struct hostent* he = gethostbyname(tptr);
> char iaddr1[inetAddrLength];
> if (he) {
> if (strcmp(arr1,tptr)==0) {
> ret = true;
> }
> else {
> char* aptr = he->h_addr_list[0];
> strncpy(iaddr1,aptr,inetAddrLength);
> he = gethostbyname(arr1);
> if (strncmp(iaddr1,aptr,inetAddrLength)==0) {
> {
> ret = true;
> }
> }
> }
> if (tptr != arr2) {
> delete [] tptr;
> }
> }
> }
> }
> }
> return ret;
> }
>
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From: Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Serial mousepad
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:46:10 -0500
Hi,
I use a Synaptics touchpad. I have submitted changes to GPM to support
this. The synaptics support in GPM (1.17.5 or later see
ftp.prosa.it/pub/gpm) allows you to program the corners to act as one of
the three buttons. Some of the older Synaptics touchpads had a third
button (according to their documentation).
Hope that this helps.
Henry
David Ward wrote:
>
> I have a PC running Linux with a serial mouse (no PS2 port). I would
> like to use a mousepad instead - possibly a Synaptic one becuase I
> already have one on a Linux laptop (PS2).
>
> Does anyway have or know of a serial mousepad that will work as 3-button
> mouse?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
> David Ward.
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From: Drew Tennenbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Are there any USB drivers for Kernel 2.2.x?
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 19:09:29 -0800
A USB project for Linux is under way. I recently looked into it for my USB
Video Cameras, but unfortunately those aren't supported.
I think mice and keyboards are pretty much the only things supported so far,
but I'm not positive.
Drew Tennenbaum
http://peloncho.fis.ucm.es/~inaky/uusbd-www/
Christopher James Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know of any USB driver projects for Linux? If so, is there
> scanner support i.e. Sane available? If not - is someone going to write
> them?
>
> Chris Smith
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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