Linux-Hardware Digest #978, Volume #12            Sat, 3 Jun 00 00:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Parralel port modem-- how? ("fillintheblank")
  If you are having problems with UDMA66 hard drives and Athlon processors - then read 
this now (Richard Bratt)
  Re: HP Colorado Tape IDE Help? ("quazar")
  Re: Still having probs with 2nd eth card ("bernie")
  Re: Second fan for case? ("Steve D.")
  Re: Swiss Keyboard (Smitty)
  Re: video card driver-DIAMOND STEALTH (John Collier)
  Re: CD burner (J. Peterson)
  need dual scsi2 card advice (Anthony Ewell)
  Re: Specifying Memady (Steve Martin)
  Re: Please help me install my 3Com 3c509B ISA NIC :-) (Steve Martin)
  Re: Specifying Memady (Bit Twister)
  new build fails to boot (Georgia Jensen)
  Quantum CR and VA 503+: hdparm -t = 2.5MB/s ??? (Andrew Comech)
  Re: Still having probs with 2nd eth card (M Wulfman)
  Re: SCSI compatibility (Mukundan Sudarsan)
  Re: new build fails to boot (Anthony Ewell)
  Re: Please help me install my 3Com 3c509B ISA NIC :-) (Amanda Hammond)

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From: "fillintheblank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Parralel port modem-- how?
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:10:21 -0400

I used ot have a parallel 33.6 modem, but i ditched it for in internal 56k
which i can't get to connect with my ISP.
fillintheblank


"mst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dances With Crows wrote:
> >
> > Parallel port modems do exist... they're even rarer than serial printers
> > in the PC world, but they're out there.
>
> Cool, I had no idea... Although, I seem to remember seeing one, a long
> way back, but I think it was on a Macintosh. Or was it a RS422? Go
> figure.
>
> > If the plug on the end of the
> > cable going to the computer is a female plug, then you have a serial
modem
> > with a DB25 instead of a DB9 connector... you can pick up a converter
for
> > $2 at any computer store, plug into the serial port, and go.
> >
> > If the connector does indeed plug in to the parallel port without an
> > adapter, I have no idea about what you'd do next except point minicom at
> > /dev/lp0 and and see what happens.
>
> Yeah. I also wouldn't do this on a computer I'm very fond of - I don't
> have the time to figure it out, you may end up shorting something if you
> plug a serial device into a parallel port. But don't take this for
> granted.
>
> MST



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From: Richard Bratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: If you are having problems with UDMA66 hard drives and Athlon processors - 
then read this now
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 00:19:17 GMT



I just put together an Athlon 750 (nee 600) + SD11 system with a
Maxtor UDMA66 capable 10GB HD.  The system installed fine.  I changed
rc.startup to do a hdparm -d1 /dev/hda (I know this probably isn't the
right way to do this -- corrections welcome -- but it works).  The
system seemed to work BUT after GIMPing around for a few hours the
system froze (obviously a disk issue given the action of the HD
light).  I rebooted and GIMPed somemore without problem.  Then I
dropped to command line mode to watch for errors and tried to copy
120MB of stuff over my internal net to the HD.  A little way in BANG
error messages galore emanating from the HD.

Called Maxtor, we qucikly determined that I had let old habits connect
the cables (Blue to MD, Middle to HD as Master, end to CDROM as
secondary).  I was told that the Master had to be at the end with
ATA66.  I reconfigured and tried all over again.  Same result this
time with the HD all alone at the end of the IDE0 cable.

Called Maxtor again;   This tech told me that with Athlon processors
the Blue connector must attach to the HD.  Just the reverse of what
tech 1 told me.  This makes no sense to me (I guess it is not just a
set of connectors) and he could not explain why this matters -- BUT
preliminary results seem to confirm his advice.  It is too soon for me
to conclude that this fixed my problem, but the scenario that reliably
(well twice in a row anyway)  hung me before no longer is the kiss of
death.

So, is you are having UDMA66 stability problems with an Athlon based
system then try this.  It might help.  If any reader can explain what
is happening here I'd sure appreciate having this demystified.

-Dick

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From: "quazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP Colorado Tape IDE Help?
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:19:19 -0400


> If you are using ide-tape.o the devices are /dev/ht0 and /dev/nht0.
Devices
> /dev/st0 and /dev/nst0 are for SCSI or IDE-drives using SCSI-emulation. I
have a
> Colorado 8.0GB IDE drive and it works fine under SCSI emulation after I
upgraded
> to kernel 2.2.15 and applied the hedrick ide patch. It did not work
properly under
> kernel 2.2.12-20, which is what is installed by RedHat 6.1. I was able to
read and
> write to the tape, but I could not append to an archive. Everything works
under
> 2.2.15.


Great, this is working, I appreaciate the help and information.  I was
confused mainly about the device it seemed.

Thanks alot





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From: "bernie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Still having probs with 2nd eth card
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 00:31:53 GMT

Thanks for the info, I got it working with your help!





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From: "Steve D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Second fan for case?
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 01:24:31 -0600

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Was I hosed?
> 
> I recently ordered an Addtronics case from a vendor with 2-fans.
> 
> When I received it and was installing the mobo when I suddenly realized
> there was only one fan in the case and contacted the vendor.
> 
> Their reply was that I was sold a case with two fans, one in the power
> supply and the second in the case.
> 
> This was not what I envisioned as a case with two fans since I've never
> seen a power supply for a PC without a fan.
> 
> Your opinions?

Clever Marketing! It's sad, but things like this are a trend that is
climbing steadily. I wouldn't say you were hosed (at least too badly)
since fans can be had for less than 10 bucks, but it's dissapointing.

I bought a case from them too, it's really nice. BIG too. Room for 4 8cm fans. 
I noticed the same thing though.. oh, well...

steve...


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From: Smitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Swiss Keyboard
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:34:35 -0400

Peet wrote:

> I have a German-Swiss Keyboard with the following layout; would anybody
> know what the emulation is called (during install) that will match the
> keys:
>
> Row 1 cap: �+"*�%&/()=?`
> Row 1 no shift: �1234567890'^
> Row 2 cap: QWERTZUIOP�!
> Row 2 no shift: qwertzuiop��
> Row 3 cap: ASDFGHJKL��
> Row 3 no shift: asdfghjkl��$
> Row 4 cap: >YXCVBNM;:_
> Row 4 no shift: <yxcvbnm,.-
>
> fr-CH-latin1 sounded good but still no match. Any guess apreciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Peet
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

Peet,
Log in as root and in a terminal window either type setup or
/usr/sbin/kbdconfig and select german or german-swiss or german-ch,
depending on your distribution.  Some distribs may not support
german-swiss keyboards.  German is one color to some.
Smitty



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Collier)
Subject: Re: video card driver-DIAMOND STEALTH
Date: 3 Jun 2000 01:44:14 GMT

Lisa Becktold {CADIG STAFF} ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

I have a Diamond Stealth III s540. The Diamond Stealth drivers
in XFree 3.3.6 work, but I find it better to use the S3 Savage
(generic) driver, and even better to use the Savage Pro. With your
chipset, I'd suggest the generic driver. 

: 
: I have a Diamond Stealth III video card that came with a Micron
: ProClient PC. Does any one know where I can find a driver for it or
: perhaps some advice for configuring it to run with redhat 6.1. The
: following are some particulars:
: 
: Diamond Stealth III S520 Savage 4LT 8MB SDRAM 2x AGP
: 
: 
: Interface Type:                 AGP-ATX Form Factor
: Memory Type:                    SDRAM
: Default Memory Size:            8MB
: Maximum Memory Size:            8MB
: BIOS:                           209C4904
: (Flashable)
: 
: Chipset:                        S3 Savage 4LT @ UCTL
: Clock Speeds:                   Core: 100 MHz
: Memory:                         125 MHz
: Maximum Resolution:             1920 X 1440
: Refresh Rate at Max. Res.:      60 MHz
: Graphics Accelerator:           S3 Savage 4LT
: DAC Speed:                      250 MHz
: Bandwidth (Data Path):          Internal: 128 bit
:                                 External: 64 bit
: Max Color Depth:                32 bit True Color 
: Plug and Play:                  Yes (Win 9x)
: Peripheral Connectors:          VGA Out (DB15)
: AGP Support:                    2x with Sideband support
: Power Consumption:              6 Watts Max
: 
: Thanks in advance.
: 
: 
: Lisa (for Bob Disque)
: 
: 
: -- 
:     ----------------------------------------------------------
:       Lisa M. Becktold - [EMAIL PROTECTED], (410) 293-6480
:                United States Naval Academy - CADIG          
:     590 Holloway Road, Rickover Hall, Annapolis, MD 21402-5000

-- 
John Collier                    Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Philosophy -- U. of Newcastle                   Fax:   +61 49 216928
Callaghan, NSW, AUSTRALIA 2038  http://bcollier.newcastle.edu.au
http://www.newcastle.edu.au/department/pl/Staff/JohnCollier/collier.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J. Peterson)
Subject: Re: CD burner
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 02:17:26 GMT

I have to exact same problem trying to load my CD-RW (Plextor 8/4/32)
under RH6.2.  

As I did not have lilo.conf put on my HD, I am booting off a floppy.
I did a full install of RH6.2, and this CDRW is currently being
recognized upong bootup as HDD.  I also have a CD drive as HDC.

I have read the CD-Writing HOWTO and according to its instructions, I
have done the following:

1)  In my lilo.conf file, I added "append="hdd=ide-scsi"
2)  Under the conf.modules, I added:

     options ide-cd ignore=hdd
     pre-install  sg          modprobe ide-scsi
     pre-install  sr_mod  modprobe ide-scsi
     pre-install  ide-scsi  modproble ide-cd


When I reboot the system, I notice that HDD is still shown as the
CDRW, and no SCSI hosts are found.  

I then tried:  insmod ide-scsi but this didn't seem to help either.
After this, I tried to insmod sr_mod and sg but these modules could
not be found.  Could this be part of my problem?

I am wondering if I need to recompile the Kernel as I have noticed in
other postings?

thanks for any assistance!

Jeff Peterson

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Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 19:21:47 -0700
From: Anthony Ewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: need dual scsi2 card advice

Hi,

   Anyone have a favorite dual channel SCSI-2 (10 MB/sec)
or SCSI-3 (20 MB/sec) controller card that is Linux friendly?

Many thanks,
--Tony
aewell @ gbis dot com (remove the spaces, change the "dot" to ".")


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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Specifying Memady
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 22:34:56 -0400

Clancy Walker wrote:
> 
> I've tried a lot of Linux Distributions, Slack 7, SuSE 6.Fo, Mandrake... But
> thay only 64 out of my 128 Megs of memory. I remember reading something
> somewhere where you have to specify how much is present in lilo.conf, but
> I'm not sure... Anybody know a solution?

Put the line

   append="mem=128M"

somewhere near the top of your lilo.conf file.

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please help me install my 3Com 3c509B ISA NIC :-)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 22:49:52 -0400

Amanda Hammond wrote:

> That's a whole other can o' worms that I'd prefer not to open if at
> all possible. I'd like to make sure I'm doing everything right with
> the module. If I am, and it still doesn't work, then I'll try the
> kernel rebuild.

Hmmm... I must be missing something. Modules are generated *by*
a kernel build. It's been my experience that, in many cases,
putting the driver in the kernel (especially if it's something
you're ALWAYS gonna be using) is easier than trying to do it as
a module.

> I have my BIOS set to PnP OS _disabled_, should I (or will I still be
> able to) set this IRQ to ISA/Legacy?

Yes. Setting the BIOS PnP OS setting to "no" actually is telling the
BIOS that the OS is *not* PnP, and that the BIOS will have to take
care of setting up the PnP cards before booting the OS and turning
over control. If the OS were PnP, you would tell the BIOS "yes",
and it would then assume that the OS will do the necessary card
initialization.

> Do any of you see any glaring omissions, or have any recommendations?

I'm running RH6.0 here, but if 6.2 is similar, there might be one more
thing you'll have to do before you can use the card, and that is to
configure the interface.

Log in as root, start up X, and from a bash prompt run

   control-panel

Select network setup and make sure the eth0 interface is configured
like you want it (IP address, et cetera) and is marked as "active
at boot". If control-panel doesn't show an eth0 interface, you might
have to define one.

> I've probably logged close to 30 long (albeit educational) hours
> trying to get this card working... please, don't let me get to 40! :-)

Actually, and I say this with no trace of sarcasm, that's one of the
beauties of Linux; it's very instructional in how to deal with
modern operating system concepts. I learned TCP/IP in the first place
reading the Linux Network Administrators' Guide.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: Specifying Memady
Reply-To: This_news_group
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 03:02:03 GMT

On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 22:34:56 -0400, Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Clancy Walker wrote:
>> 
>> I've tried a lot of Linux Distributions, Slack 7, SuSE 6.Fo, Mandrake... But
>> thay only 64 out of my 128 Megs of memory. I remember reading something
>> somewhere where you have to specify how much is present in lilo.conf, but
>> I'm not sure... Anybody know a solution?
>
>Put the line
>
>   append="mem=128M"
>
>somewhere near the top of your lilo.conf file.

then install change with                /sbin/lilo


-- 
The warranty and liability expired as you read the message.
If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it. 
Do a,  man every_command_here, before doing anything or running a script.

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From: Georgia Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: new build fails to boot
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 22:00:54 -0500

  I know this is probably simple, but after I recompiled the kernel for
scsi support and modular scsi cdrom support
the boot process gets to "finding module dependencies" and hangs.  Tried
depmod -a from the new module dir.  no success, and then deleted that
modules.dep and checked for /sbin/depmod -a in the rc. files. It is
there in rc.sysinit right after " Finding
module dependencies" and it rebuilt modules.dep at the next boot into
the old build.  Should this read depmod -a 2.2.5-15
(my version)?
Also a strange entry in the /etc/conf.modules file having something to
do with pcmcia support which I didn't
think I configured in.
 Btw running RH 6.1, with 2.2.5-15 kernel.
  Another quick question, if I download a new kernel will it include all
of the modules?

Thanks in advance from a wannabe Linux convert.

Tom Jensen






Don't force it, get a bigger hammer!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Quantum CR and VA 503+: hdparm -t = 2.5MB/s ???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2 Jun 2000 22:59:50 -0500

Hi, I used to have Quantum CR 4.3GB UDMA/66 hard drive with FIC's VA 503+ 
motherboards, and buffered disk reads rate (hdparm -t) was always around 
12..14MB/s; this is with DMA enabled (and half of that with DMA disabled).

  (To enable DMA, I needed first to switch the drive from UDMA/66 to 
  /33 mode since a year old BIOS program could not recognize UDMA/66..)

Now, somehow I swapped a motherboard for a newer version of the same type 
(VA 503+), but in some time I noticed that hdparm -t dropped to around 
2.5..2.8MB/s (this is with the same drive).

This is not _that_ noticeable.. but I do not like this.

What I tried:
(*) dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null ... gives results consistent with hdparm -t
(*) same rate with DMA on/off
(*) I tried several kernels ranging from 2.0.36 to 2.4.0, some of which
(THOSE PARTICULAR COMPILATIONS) gave around 12MB/s rates with the
previous motherboard. No change.
(*) upgrading BIOS to JE439 (the original one was 1.15JE37). No change.
(I know Linux hardly relies on the BIOS, but since there was some 
UDMA/33 /66 issue I tried it as well.) 
I also tried to downgrade BIOS to 1.15JK35, but this did not work .. and 
taught me how to restore the motherboard following the Boot Block BIOS 
method, from a DOS floppy and with ISA videocard..) 
(*) I did make sure not to have a "slave" on this (primary) cable

How do I figure out what causes this slowness? 
I will certainly try different hard drives with different motherboards;
so far I have a feeling that this has nothing to do with BIOS or kernel 
version.. Is it a dying drive? Or defective motherboard?.

What else could I check or change? 

Any insight will be appreciated!
Andrew

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From: M Wulfman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Still having probs with 2nd eth card
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 03:18:24 GMT

Glad you got it worked out.  What did you do that cleared the hurdle?  I
used to see a lot of 3c900's and it would be nice to know.

Matthew

bernie wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the info, I got it working with your help!

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From: Mukundan Sudarsan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI compatibility
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 20:21:32 -0700

hi...
But is the Adaptec AHA-2930U card that I have the same as the Adaptec
AHA-2930CU? The Linux page seems to list only the latter. Is the driver the
same for both the cards?
Mukund

Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:

> Mukundan Sudarsan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I've an Adaptec 2930 Ultra SCSi card currently for Windows NT. I need to
> > run Linux on my box and donno if its compatible with Linux. Can u please
> > tell me if the Adaptec 2930 ultra is compatible with Linux. Where can i
> > find the drivers for it?
>
> http://lhd.datapower.com/ for all your Linux hardware compatibility needs.
>
> The short answer is that yes, it is supported, and the driver (aic7xxx) is
> a standard part of the kernel, so will be in whatever distro you choose.
>
> --
> Joshua Baker-LePain
> Department of Biomedical Engineering
> Duke University


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Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 20:40:57 -0700
From: Anthony Ewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: new build fails to boot

Hi George,

   I have yet to figure out how to get modules and scsi to work
together.  What I have had to do is direct compile everything,
instead of using modules.  (I leave modules turned on and
only click one module on that I don't use.)

   But, I have yet to try:  "make bzImage modules", instead of
"make bzImage".  I got this from AMI's instructions on how to
compile megaraid utilities into a kernel: I've enclosed their
instruction on the bottom.

   Let me know if you ever get it figures out.

--Tony
aewell @ gbis dot com (remove the spaces and replace the "dot" with ".")


===========

   KEYS TO INSTALLING REDHAT 6.2 AND RECOMPILING KERNEL
                                           STEP 1:

  1.   Mkdir /mega in the root directory.
  2.     Mount  t msdos /dev/fdo /mnt
  3.     Cd /mnt   ls
  4.     Cp mega_107.tgz /mega
  5.     Cd /mega
  6.     Tar zxfx mega_107.tgz
  7.     Cp megaraid*.* /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi
  8.     Overwrite - YY
  9.     Cd /usr/src/linux
  10.    Make menuconfig:
       Enable Xeon
       Enable Symmetric multiprocessor
       Enable Scsi support - Enable low-level format   Enable megaraid
support
       Enable all file systems(DOS, UDOS, FAT)
       Enable probe all luns must be enabled
       SAVE CONFIG.

  STEP2:

      1.    Make Dep
  2.     Make bzImage modules
  3.     Make modules_install
  4.     Cd /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot
  5.     Cd /boot
  6.     Cp bzImage /boot
  7.     Cd /boot
  8.     Mv bzImage vmlinuz-2.2.14-6.1kanak
  9.     Mkinitrd initrd-2.2.14-6.1kanak.img 2.2.14-6.1
  10.    Cd /etc
  11.    PICO LILO.CONF
       Image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-6.1tim
       Label=kanak
       Initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.14-6.1kanak.img
       Read-only
       Root=/dev/sda1

  STEP 3:

  1.    Lilo
  2.     Cd /usr/lib
  3.     Ln  s libslang.so.1 libslang.so.0
  4.     Cd /mega/megamgr
  5.     Megamgr







Georgia Jensen wrote:

>   I know this is probably simple, but after I recompiled the kernel for
> scsi support and modular scsi cdrom support
> the boot process gets to "finding module dependencies" and hangs.  Tried
> depmod -a from the new module dir.  no success, and then deleted that
> modules.dep and checked for /sbin/depmod -a in the rc. files. It is
> there in rc.sysinit right after " Finding
> module dependencies" and it rebuilt modules.dep at the next boot into
> the old build.  Should this read depmod -a 2.2.5-15
> (my version)?
> Also a strange entry in the /etc/conf.modules file having something to
> do with pcmcia support which I didn't
> think I configured in.
>  Btw running RH 6.1, with 2.2.5-15 kernel.
>   Another quick question, if I download a new kernel will it include all
> of the modules?
>
> Thanks in advance from a wannabe Linux convert.
>
> Tom Jensen
>
> Don't force it, get a bigger hammer!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Amanda Hammond)
Subject: Re: Please help me install my 3Com 3c509B ISA NIC :-)
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 03:54:52 GMT

On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 22:49:52 -0400, Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Hmmm... I must be missing something. Modules are generated *by*
>a kernel build. It's been my experience that, in many cases,
>putting the driver in the kernel (especially if it's something
>you're ALWAYS gonna be using) is easier than trying to do it as
>a module.
>
>Yes. Setting the BIOS PnP OS setting to "no" actually is telling the
>BIOS that the OS is *not* PnP, and that the BIOS will have to take
>care of setting up the PnP cards before booting the OS and turning
>over control. If the OS were PnP, you would tell the BIOS "yes",
>and it would then assume that the OS will do the necessary card
>initialization.

Okay, that's not how I thought it worked
>
>> Do any of you see any glaring omissions, or have any recommendations?
>
>I'm running RH6.0 here, but if 6.2 is similar, there might be one more
>thing you'll have to do before you can use the card, and that is to
>configure the interface.
>
>Log in as root, start up X, and from a bash prompt run
>
>   control-panel
>
>Select network setup and make sure the eth0 interface is configured
>like you want it (IP address, et cetera) and is marked as "active
>at boot". If control-panel doesn't show an eth0 interface, you might
>have to define one.

Yeah, I checked that step as well.
>
>> I've probably logged close to 30 long (albeit educational) hours
>> trying to get this card working... please, don't let me get to 40! :-)
>
>Actually, and I say this with no trace of sarcasm, that's one of the
>beauties of Linux; it's very instructional in how to deal with
>modern operating system concepts. I learned TCP/IP in the first place
>reading the Linux Network Administrators' Guide.

Well, after all the difficulties, I gave in and swapped the NIC with a
PCI one out of a Win2K box. The PCI card worked like a champ, and was
autodetected without a hitch.

....But where's the satisfaction in that?? I don't think I can live
with the new, well-working card. I think I'm gonna stick that 3c509
back in there, and it's gonna be me against the 3com again.

You and Jason Short make almost 2/3rds of the Three Amigos, by the
way.

Thanks for the help, you wild and crazy guy.

Amanda :-)


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