Linux-Hardware Digest #202, Volume #14 Fri, 19 Jan 01 01:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: CD-RW info and recommemdations needed
Re: CD-RW info and recommemdations needed
Re: Is there support for integrated sound and video? ("Andre Renaud")
Re: Is there support for integrated sound and video? (Dances With Crows)
Re: US Robotics modem and SuSe 6.4 (John Scudder)
Re: Is there support for integrated sound and video? (Tarlach)
Re: MB + PCI NIC + Linux problem ("Slatec")
Re: Any USB ethernet adapters for Linux? (Kaare Digernes)
AVA-1502AE, Software interrupt lost (henk van der knaap)
Re: State of UDMA/66 and UDMA/100 support (James Richard Tyrer)
canon-LBP800 cannot work in Linux (paul)
Re: To switch to Linux or not? Advice please. (jelb)
Re: Re: which development method is right to me ? ("Ho-il, Kang")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: CD-RW info and recommemdations needed
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:07:35 -0000
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:51:01 GMT, Alan Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My HD is nearly full and Ineed to buy a CD-RW to archive files and
>free up disk space. I've spent most of the afternoon reviewing a
>years worth of related messages here, and browsing the WWW, but I
>found more questions than answers.
>
>I have a BP6 with dual Celeron 300A (can do 450 when needed). This
>means I can have up to 8 IDE devices using the HTP 366. The 366 has
>questionable stabillity, and I currently have 3 IDE HDs and a CD-ROM
>on the other IDE controller. I have an Adaptec 2906 working well with
>my SCSI Zip drive. I use LInux (currently Mandrake 7.0), W98 and
>DOS/W3.1.
>
>My preference is to use good low cost IDE HDs and use SCSI for all (or
>most) of the other devices. However, my observation is that
>manufacturers are only developing and marketing expensive high end
>SCSI devices and low cost IDE units, so I may have to bail on my
SCSI will pay off in terms of better concurrency. However,
outside of burning CD's you probably won't see it. SCSI
disks are MUCH more expensive then their IDE counterparts.
$300 will get you a 60G Deskstar these days.
>scuzzy philosphy. I have been looking at the Plexwriter 12/10/32s,
>but that will cost around $300. $300 could buy me a good video card,
>sound card, and a cheap CD-RW or HD.
How fast to you need to disks? My system is more than
capable of dealing with a normal X desktop load as
well as cd burning quite adequately. Although, I do
only burn at 2x as I got the cheapest available burner
at the time.
[deletia]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: CD-RW info and recommemdations needed
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:10:59 -0000
On 19 Jan 2001 02:30:03 GMT, Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:51:01 GMT, Alan Jones staggered into the Black
>Sun and said:
>>means I can have up to 8 IDE devices using the HTP 366. The 366 has
>>questionable stabillity, and I currently have 3 IDE HDs and a CD-ROM
>>on the other IDE controller. I have an Adaptec 2906 working well with
>>my SCSI Zip drive. I use LInux (currently Mandrake 7.0), W98 and
>>DOS/W3.1.
>>
>>My preference is to use good low cost IDE HDs and use SCSI for all (or
>>most) of the other devices. However, my observation is that
>>manufacturers are only developing and marketing expensive high end
>>SCSI devices and low cost IDE units, so I may have to bail on my
>>scuzzy philosphy. I have been looking at the Plexwriter 12/10/32s,
>>but that will cost around $300. $300 could buy me a good video card,
>>sound card, and a cheap CD-RW or HD.
>
>You gets what you pays for, at least when it comes to hardware. Is it
>more important for you to have 10 more FPS in Quake3, or a fast and
>reliable backup system? Only you can decide.
I don't think this is what is at stake at all actually.
There is little difference between IDE and SCSI for
most people and 'fast' may not be that relevant.
OTOH, larger media might be more valueable. In that case
a MO drive or DVD-RAM might be more appropriate.
[deletia]
Then again, a jukebox burner of some kind (if they make such a
beast) might make more sense. Or, 3 2x burners rather than one
faster burner might make sense (in lieu of a stacker).
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That is the whole damn point of capitalism.
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From: "Andre Renaud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there support for integrated sound and video?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:15:43 +1300
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Rich
Carreiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking to at long last replace my 5.7 year old Pentium 100 with
> something a bit newer. I still plan for it to be relatively low-end
> (Celeron or Duron) because it'll be sitting in Linux virtually all the
> time serving as a mail/news/ssh/etc server. I'll be spending more real
> money on a flashy Windoze box for finance, gaming, and web surfing.
[snip]
> In the ads they say they come with stuff like:
> * Integrated Intel 3d Graphics with Direct AGP
> * Integrated 3D Audio
> * Soundmax integrated digital audio
> * Integrated VIA AC97 Codec
>
> I have looked at the kernel READMEs and at the XFree86 web site, but
> it's not clear to me if these are supported, since the docs talk about
> specific chipsets and the ads and the salesdroids only know brandings,
> not what chipsets they are.
You will have to find out what chipsets are involved, but I have been
using the onboard chipset on my VIA boad quite successfully, although
it isn't a very good sound card (even under windows). For video cards
you'd have to find out the chipset. Ask for the motherboard manual, then
search on google or something for the appropriate chipset numbers.
Andre
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Is there support for integrated sound and video?
Date: 19 Jan 2001 03:20:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 18 Jan 2001 20:58:44 -0500, Rich Carreiro staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>I still plan for it to be relatively low-end (Celeron or Duron) because
>it'll be sitting in Linux virtually all the time serving as a
>mail/news/ssh/etc server. I'll be spending more real money on a flashy
>Windoze box for finance, gaming, and web surfing.
>I see that places like MicroCenter and Staples are running specials on
>low-end Compaq Presarios or HP Pavilions or whatever and they are
>tempting.
...in much the same way as a certain fruit offered by a certain serpent
was tempting. HP Pavilions suck raw eggs through a very thin straw, and
Presarios are the same way. Compaq have been awful in the past about
making their machines just slightly different from everyone else's, so
you had to buy replacement/upgrade parts from Compaq at grossly inflated
prices instead of shopping on the open market.
>However, despite that the machine will be primarily a server, it would
>be nice for it to be able to support X and sound under Linux. And it
>would be nice to not have to pay for video and sound cards if the
>stuff integrated on the motherboard is supported.
I would stay far away from motherboards with everything integrated.
Quality control is often bad, and if one thing fails on the board, you
can't swap parts out, but have to swap the whole board. It's also
difficult to upgrade the video/sound when you want to do that.
>In the ads they say they come with stuff like:
>* Integrated Intel 3d Graphics with Direct AGP
i810 chipset, most likely. It works, but it's more difficult to set up
than a standard video card. RAMBUS memory too if I had to guess, which
performs worse and costs more than standard SDRAM. There are (or there
used to be) models with integrated ATi Mach64 video, which is very easy
to set up and works well.
>* Integrated VIA AC97 Codec
Search this NG for "VIA sound problems". It works, but again, it's more
of a hassle than an add-on sound card in many cases.
>I have looked at the kernel READMEs and at the XFree86 web site, but
>it's not clear to me if these are supported, since the docs talk about
>specific chipsets and the ads and the salesdroids only know brandings,
>not what chipsets they are.
This sort of thing is why many people build their own Linux boxes. The
components are better-quality, and you know exactly what you're getting.
It doesn't cost less, but you get more for the money you spend.
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http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: US Robotics modem and SuSe 6.4
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:12:40 -0500
Richard Lyon wrote:
>
> In article <xLr76.931$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Jarl Friis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > TUSHIA Vladimir Chekarev 3871 wrote:
> >
> > > Good Morning,
> > > I have a little problem with my US Robotics modem it doesn't
> > > work with SUSE 6.4. All of my attempts didn't gave any results.
> > > Pnpdump is found the modem. I tried to play with setserial command
> > > with all possible devices, ports and IRQ's - modem not response or
> busy.
> > > In Windows it's work properly and in Red Hat 6.2 too.
> > > Apparently I need a help.
> >
I missed your original post..is it a 5610 PCI modem? That is what I
have and it worked fine in both SuSE 6.3 and Manddrake 7.2.
You need to find the port address and IRQ to use setserial. Type "lspci
-v" and you will see the IRQs and addresses of all your PCI appliances.
My modem is address 0xC400 and IRQ 5 so I used these parameters with
setserial: setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A port 0xC400 irq 5. In
Mandrake I put that text in a file called /etc/rc.serial and my modem
gets set at boot.
John
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From: Tarlach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there support for integrated sound and video?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:28:36 -1000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.x Rich Carreiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm looking to at long last replace my 5.7 year old Pentium 100 with
> > something a bit newer. I still plan for it to be relatively low-end
> > (Celeron or Duron) because it'll be sitting in Linux virtually all the
> > time serving as a mail/news/ssh/etc server. I'll be spending more
> > real money on a flashy Windoze box for finance, gaming, and web
> > surfing.
>
> > I see that places like MicroCenter and Staples are running specials on
> > low-end Compaq Presarios or HP Pavilions or whatever and they are
> > tempting.
>
> > However, despite that the machine will be primarily a server, it would
> > be nice for it to be able to support X and sound under Linux. And it
> > would be nice to not have to pay for video and sound cards if the
> > stuff integrated on the motherboard is supported.
>
> > In the ads they say they come with stuff like:
> > * Integrated Intel 3d Graphics with Direct AGP
>
> Probably the i815 or i815 chipsets... 3D is supported for both, I
> believe (definately the i810).
>
> > * Integrated 3D Audio
> > * Soundmax integrated digital audio
> > * Integrated VIA AC97 Codec
>
> The last Compaq I bought uses an ESS Allegro... This is supported with
> the Alsa project... Not the best driver, but fairly stable...
>
> > I have looked at the kernel READMEs and at the XFree86 web site, but
> > it's not clear to me if these are supported, since the docs talk about
> > specific chipsets and the ads and the salesdroids only know brandings,
> > not what chipsets they are.
>
> > So any ideas?
>
> > Thanks!
> > --
> > Rich Carreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As you can see below I am running Mandrake 7.2 on a HP Pavilion 6645C
which is a Celeron 566 it has the crystal sound chip and i810 .. My
mandrake 7.1 ran fine on that then I upgraded my video to 3dfx voodoo3 2000
pci and it works even better... I have good sound and never had a problem
with it of any kind. I have been running Mandrake on it for about 9 months
now.
I got this box at sears for $569.00 (US)...
larry
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XFree86 4.0.1
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From: "Slatec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.aopen,alt.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: MB + PCI NIC + Linux problem
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:50:52 GMT
That doesn't help no matter what I set.
I wonder if the board won't take any PCI NIC.
I just tried a D-Link DFX-530TX. No luck either.
ISA cards seem to work.
Thanks!
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:947gnn$n3c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <oXx96.28259$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Slatec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi there!
> >
> > I'm trying to build a Linux router box. But I am having big time
> problem
> > getting Linux to recognize the NIC. The board is a AOpen AP53/AX53.
> They
> > share the same BIOS. So I guess they are about the same. Pentium
> 133, 48
> > MB EDO RAM, ATI Mach64 card (tried a Alliance ProMotion AT3D card in
> case
> > there's a conflict with the NIC).
> >
> > I've tried a Realtek 8029 PCI card. Also tried DLink DFE-538TX, which
> is
> > based on Realtek 8139. They won't work. I wonder if it's a Realtek
> chipset
> > problem. They both are PCI card. I don't have other PCI NIC.
> >
> > modprobe ne2k-pci
> >
> > It says that the PCI BIOS assigned IRQ 0 to the card! That doesn't
> make
> > alot of sense. I've flashed the BIOS to the latest version. I've
> assigned
> > an IRQ to the slot. But that doesn't seem to have any effect at all.
> Tried
> > modprobe ne2k-pci irq=xx. But I think the driver doesn't take any irq
> > parameters...
> >
> > So I try the D-Link card. No luck either. Won't pick up the card.
> There
> > are some assertion stuff errors when I modprobe.
> >
> > However, the SMC EtherEZ that I have works.
> >
> > What else did I miss? Or what else should I try?
> >
> > I'm using Linux Mandrake 7.2. Fresh installation. Bare minimum
> stuff.
> > Basic Linux + networking. No X. Didn't even install gcc/make/stuff
> like
> > that.
> >
> > Please help/advise. Thanks for your time!
> >
> > Slatec
> >
> >
> I have seen this problem before, make sure that in your BIOS the
> selection "Plug-n-PLay OS" is turned on, of if it is on try turning it
> off. If you have any Q's email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Kyle K
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaare Digernes)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Any USB ethernet adapters for Linux?
Date: 19 Jan 2001 04:54:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Following up on my own posting here; it turns out that on Red Hat Linux
for Intel version 7.0 several critical directories aren't soft-linked to
the kernel source tree as they are supposed to. That is:
/usr/include/asm/ -> /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386/
/usr/include/linux/ -> /usr/src/linux/include/linux/
/usr/include/scsi/ -> /usr/src/linux/include/scsi/
If you experience problems compiling a new kernel, you may want to make
sure the directories are linked appropriately (ref. documentation in the
kernel source from i.e. ftp://ftp.kernel.org/).
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
From: henk van der knaap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AVA-1502AE, Software interrupt lost
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:13:17 +1300
Dear readers,
I have installed an AVA-1502AE SCSI Host Adapter card. This card works
beautifully on my 486 computer with the following kernel, (using modules):
Linux version 2.2.17pre6 (root@henk) (gcc version 2.95.2 20000220 (Debian
GNU/Linux)) #4 Mon Jan 1 23:54:49 NZDT 2001
However on my pentium I get the following distressing message (with the
same kernel version):
aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s)
aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=10, SCSI ID=7,
reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100,
extended translation=disabled
aha152x: trying software interrupt, lost.
aha152x: IRQ 10 possibly wrong. Please verify.
scsi : 0 hosts.
I have seen other people reporting this problem, but nowhere I have found
a solution. Yes, it all works under Windows95.
Any thought would be very much appreciated.
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I am happily using Debian 2.2 Linux as my operating system.
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Henk van der Knaap,
New Zealand
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of UDMA/66 and UDMA/100 support
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:16:39 GMT
Rich Carreiro wrote:
> What is the state (both in 2.2.18 and 2.4.x) of UDMA/66 and UDMA/100
> support, both in terms of integrated motherboard controllers and
> add-on cards (if there is any difference)? I've not been in the
> market for new iron in over 5 years, so I've gotten a bit behind on
> exactly what Linux is supporting these days. I have gone to
> www.linux-ide.org, but didn't find that terribly enlightening - lots
> of utilities and patches, but not much clear documentation on what
> *is* supported.
>
> And if UDMA/66 and UDMA/100 are not supported, does that mean the
> controllers just won't run at those speeds (but will still do
> UDMA/33)? Or does it mean Linux won't even see those controllers?
>
> I'm starting to see more machines/motherboards boasting about
> UDMA/100 support and I want to make sure I don't buy something
> that Linux won't work with.
The new Kernel has support for UDMA/66 and UDMA/100. The configure script
lists quite a few chip sets.
I don't know what comes with prebuilt binaries.
JRT
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From: paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: canon-LBP800 cannot work in Linux
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:30:07 -0000
My Canon LBP800 Laser Printer is connected to Win98 SE as print server and
I am using Mandrake 7.1. My problem is I am unable to print to the remote
Canon laser printer, could someone plases tell me how to print to my remote
laser printer that running Win98 from Mandrake Linux.
Urgent help is needed. Thanks a lot.
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From: jelb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: To switch to Linux or not? Advice please.
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:21:23 -0700
Hello everyone,
Well in just a little over 24 hours I've received many helpfull
replies to my post. Let me first say:
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
Help like this, from total strangers, is especially nice because it
compensates for the all too abundant flaming I notice in many other
groups - if you know what I mean.
I had to laugh when one of you pointed out that not all Windows
programs run on Windows. Point taken. I should have asked whether all
of those that do will also run under VMWare. Never mind though.
Judging by the responses probably most will. I expect I'd have to boot
to Windows for 3D gaming though.
As far as what I use my PC for? E-mail; web surfing; and gaming.
That's it. I drive for a living so I don't need compatibility with
programs I run at work.
Based on all the replies I've read I think I'll be giving Windows 2000
a try. If it really is a lot more stable than ME then, obviously, I'll
have less need to try Linux. That doesn't mean I won't though. I am
curious about it and, well, I've got like six CDs burned with various
distros on them. Once I get my new system I'll likely try Corel Linux
Second Edition and, maybe, RedHat 7.0. If I can fairly easily get my
cable connect and SB Live! Value working with one of them there's a
good chance I'll give it a better trial than I have so far. Maybe then
I'll wind up using it for everything but Windows gaming.
When I assemble my new system I will not be getting a MB with onboard
sound or video. No worries there. And maybe I'll take the plunge and
try an AMD CPU now. In the past I've always been concerned about
compatibility but the Athlon seems to be very highly regarded. I doubt
Wintel would support me on this point though. Like Linux vs Windows
though, I'd like to see AMD really give Intel headaches. They already
do I suppose - and then there's Transmeta's Crusoe processor too eh?
Maybe the times they are a changin?
Well I can't think of anything else to write at the moment. Once
again, for those of you that missed it, thank you all very much.
jelb
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From: "Ho-il, Kang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.embedded,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Re: which development method is right to me ?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:27:42 +0900
> Sounds like an ATI card. ATI doesn't like to support Linux. If it
> doesn't have a theater chip I think you'll find a driver that does
> what you want to run X. If you want to do video capture then I don't
> know, I just run X. Have you tried running a Red Hat install and
> letting it guess the card? I dunno what program Red Hat uses for
> probing, but it's probably part of the Xfree86 distro.
>
> If all else fails, and if you're not really motivated, and you want
> better than VGA under X, then I'd bite the bullet and buy a supported
> video card. Otherwise go to the XFree86 website (www.xfree86.org) and
> send them mail asking how you can help.
>
> jim
Thanks for kindness answer.
and... but...
my problem is not only "running X", but also "Writing device support
program". T.T
I must write device support program such as device driver or library.
but, unfourtunly, I am first time linux developer, I can't decide the
methode of development.
that is real problem.
Please answer which right to me.
thanks for reading...
ho-il, kang
email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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