Linux-Hardware Digest #236, Volume #9 Thu, 21 Jan 99 09:13:30 EST
Contents:
Re: Help Best Modems (Jose Urena)
Re: mkisofs - how to install? (Eric Potter)
Re: Want Linux bogomips numbers for Intel PII-450 (Simon Kinahan)
mkisofs - how to install? (Jeffrey Greer)
Re: UMAX Astra 610S Scanner support... (Jose Urena)
No 16bpp with >16mb ram? (John David Bowden)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Gabor)
Re: SiS 6326 (Oded Arbel)
Registered Developer??? (Paul Hovnanian)
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From: Jose Urena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Best Modems
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:05:58 -0500
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external modems are not winmodems and are know to work with linux, except
for USB modems
does the "Ext" stands for external?
"Jonathan D. Gift" wrote:
> I'm looking at the Ext 3Com US Robotics 3Com 56K modems and they require
> Windows even though they don't say WinModems. Will they work with Linux?
>
> Thanks.
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external modems are not winmodems and are know to work with linux, except
for USB modems
<p>does the "Ext" stands for external?
<p>"Jonathan D. Gift" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I'm looking at the Ext 3Com US Robotics 3Com 56K
modems and they require
<br>Windows even though they don't say WinModems. Will they work with Linux?
<p>Thanks.</blockquote>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Potter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: mkisofs - how to install?
Date: 20 Jan 1999 19:36:52 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
Jeffrey Greer enlightened this group thus:
> Could someone tell me how and where to install mkisofs. I ran
> "configure" then "make install". Now how do I install the
> sucker? There are no directions on installing mkisofs with the
> files it comes with. I d/l'd mkisofs at
>ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/mkisofs/. I can't find
> directions on mkisofs at
>http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html#toc6
> either.
>
If you did "make install" then the executable should have been installed into
the bin directory that is given in the Makefile. You can control this by using
the "--prefix" switch to "./configure" e.g. "./configure --prefix=/usr/local"
followed by "make" and "make install" will install the executable into
/usr/local/bin.
> I'm setting up linux to burn cd's. Doing this seems hopelessly
> complicated. Does anyone have any suggestions for an easy route
> for doing this - E.g. easiest software, front-ends. I have a
> panasonic (matsushita) cd7502b drive.
>
You will also need to install cdrecord. You could also try xcdroast, which is
a front end to mkisofs and cdrecord.
> Is burning cd's under Linux as reliable as burning cd's with
> windows?
>
More reliable, due to the superior multitasking.
> Thanks.
> --
> Jeff Greer, graduating senior, computer science
> www.umr.edu/~jgreer
> University of MO - Rolla
> ------------------------
> FAA license A-27264 (license to jump out an airplane at >= 1000ft AGL)
>
> // "If travelling by plane is 'flying' then travelling by boat is swimming. \\
> \\ If you want to experience the environment, get out of the vehicle." //
--
* ^ \ ___@
*^ / \ \ | \
/ \/ \ \__| \
/ / ^ \ \
/ \ \ Eric Potter
/ ^ ^ \ \
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From: Simon Kinahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.intel,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.arch,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Want Linux bogomips numbers for Intel PII-450
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:00:36 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Note that AMD CPUs give higher-than-MHz BogoMIPS
> numbers, but generally run other code slower.
> This has to do, I claim, with the fact that the
> K6 microarchitecture runs a two-instruction decrement/
> branch loop faster than the P6 microarchitecture.
If you were right, you might have a point, but you aren't, so you don't. My AMD
K6-2 300 (and every equivalent machine I have seen) gives just under 300
bogomips. AMD chips have superior integer performance to Intel ones under some
circumstances, but generally poorer floating point.
Simon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey Greer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: mkisofs - how to install?
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:13:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Could someone tell me how and where to install mkisofs. I ran
"configure" then "make install". Now how do I install the
sucker? There are no directions on installing mkisofs with the
files it comes with. I d/l'd mkisofs at
ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/mkisofs/. I can't find
directions on mkisofs at
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html#toc6
either.
I'm setting up linux to burn cd's. Doing this seems hopelessly
complicated. Does anyone have any suggestions for an easy route
for doing this - E.g. easiest software, front-ends. I have a
panasonic (matsushita) cd7502b drive.
Is burning cd's under Linux as reliable as burning cd's with
windows?
Thanks.
--
Jeff Greer, graduating senior, computer science
www.umr.edu/~jgreer
University of MO - Rolla
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FAA license A-27264 (license to jump out an airplane at >= 1000ft AGL)
// "If travelling by plane is 'flying' then travelling by boat is swimming. \\
\\ If you want to experience the environment, get out of the vehicle." //
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From: Jose Urena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UMAX Astra 610S Scanner support...
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:16:55 -0500
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I was lucky, since I have an external Zip scsi, I connected my umax 610s to the zip
drive using the umax cable.
if you have any scsi devices already connected to the external connector in your
scsi card, then connect the scanner to that device, and check your scsi IDs and
reconfigure your scsi termination.
if you can find it, there is a small card-like adapter that you can plug to your
internal scsi ribbon
which you can then place into one of your open slots and use for other scsi
devices. the adapter had a D25 connector just like the Umax scsi card
I used that adapter back when I owned a SB16 SCSI,
last I seen one, was at TigerDirect for around $10+SH
I gave the SB card and adapter to my sister.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How did you connect your 610s to your SCSI bus? I just bought a UMAX Astra
> 610s at CompUSA for $40 after rebates. It has a weird SCSI connector on it
> -- it looks like a DB25. What do you know, it matches the ISA SCSI card that
> came with it, but my system doesn't have any free ISA slots. I do have a
> SCSI card already, which I would like to use. However, my SCSI card has, I
> think, a SCSI 2 connector. (I don't know much about the different varieties
> of SCSI. It has 50 pins in two rows about 3 cm long.)
>
> CompUSA doesn't sell an adapter (nor do any of the other stores around here
> (Northern Virginia, USA) that I've checked). One place sells a cable that
> would the adapting, but it's about $30 for a 3 foot cable. I just can't see
> spending $30 to get the $40 scanner working. If I'm going to spend that kind
> of money, I'd rather save for a while more and get a better scanner.
>
> JDR sells SCSI adapters that should do the job, but again, the cost is a
> little high ($20 + about $10 shipping).
>
> Any other ideas? How hard/feasible/costly is it to wire up an adapter myself?
> Where can I get the pinouts for going from a DB25 to the HDB50? I have 9 days
> to get it working before I have to return the scanner and get my money back.
>
> Thanks,
> -Jeremy
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glenn Trigg) wrote:
> >
> > FYI, I am using a UMAX Astra 610s. I bought a PCI based Advansys SCSI card
> > and have been very happy with both it and the scanner. I'm using SANE 1.0
> > as the driver and linked it with the gimp for scanning straight into an
> > image editor.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > > Patrick Mayer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm currently running linux on my computer (Red-Hat 5.2 distribution.
> Kernel
> > > > 2.xxx: I'm new at this!) and I would like to know if it is possible to use
> a
> > > > UMAX 610S scanner with it (that's the SCSI version). Any guesses of where
> I
> > > > should look for a driver?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > >
> > > > Another guy slowly getting addicted to AfterStep!
> > >
> > > Yes, with a SCSI card that is supported in Linux.
> > >
> > > I just got a UMAX Astra 2100S myself, and have read about linux support
> > > for it at:
> > > http://www.mostang.com/sane/
> > > http://www.wolfsburg.de/~rauch/sane/sane-umax.html
> > > http://www.wolfsburg.de/~rauch/sane/sane-umax-doc.html
> > >
> > > The card UMAX ships doesn't seem to have avaliable drivers for Linux,
> > > but if you run the scanner with a supported SCSI card, it will work.
> > >
> > > I am looking to get a scsi card for my scanner now, so if you have any
> > > recomendations, please read my post titled "SCSI Cheap/Supported?" in
> > > this newsgroup, and respond ;-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > "Robert W. Current" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - email
> > > http://www.current.nu - personal web site
> > > "Hey mister, turn it on, turn it up, and turn me loose." - Dwight Yoakam
> >
> > --
> > Glenn Trigg - Computer Generation Incorporated
> > 4th Floor, 564 St Kilda Road, Melbourne, Australia 3004
> > Tel: +61 3 9521 7431 Fax: +61 3 9521 7136
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
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I was lucky, since I have an external Zip scsi, I connected my umax
610s to the zip drive using the umax cable.
<br>if you have any scsi devices already connected to the external connector
in your scsi card, then connect the scanner to that device, and check your
scsi IDs and reconfigure your scsi termination.
<p>if you can find it, there is a small card-like adapter that you can
plug to your internal scsi ribbon
<br> which you can then place into one of your open slots and use
for other scsi devices. the adapter had a D25 connector just like the Umax
scsi card
<p>I used that adapter back when I owned a SB16 SCSI,
<br>last I seen one, was at TigerDirect for around $10+SH
<p>I gave the SB card and adapter to my sister.
<p>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>How did you connect your 610s to your SCSI bus?
I just bought a UMAX Astra
<br>610s at CompUSA for $40 after rebates. It has a weird SCSI connector
on it
<br>-- it looks like a DB25. What do you know, it matches the ISA
SCSI card that
<br>came with it, but my system doesn't have any free ISA slots.
I do have a
<br>SCSI card already, which I would like to use. However, my SCSI
card has, I
<br>think, a SCSI 2 connector. (I don't know much about the different
varieties
<br>of SCSI. It has 50 pins in two rows about 3 cm long.)
<p>CompUSA doesn't sell an adapter (nor do any of the other stores around
here
<br>(Northern Virginia, USA) that I've checked). One place sells
a cable that
<br>would the adapting, but it's about $30 for a 3 foot cable. I
just can't see
<br>spending $30 to get the $40 scanner working. If I'm going to
spend that kind
<br>of money, I'd rather save for a while more and get a better scanner.
<p>JDR sells SCSI adapters that should do the job, but again, the cost
is a
<br>little high ($20 + about $10 shipping).
<p>Any other ideas? How hard/feasible/costly is it to wire up an
adapter myself?
<br>Where can I get the pinouts for going from a DB25 to the HDB50?
I have 9 days
<br>to get it working before I have to return the scanner and get my money
back.
<p>Thanks,
<br>-Jeremy
<p>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<br> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glenn Trigg) wrote:
<br>>
<br>> FYI, I am using a UMAX Astra 610s. I bought a PCI based Advansys
SCSI card
<br>> and have been very happy with both it and the scanner. I'm using
SANE 1.0
<br>> as the driver and linked it with the gimp for scanning straight into
an
<br>> image editor.
<br>>
<br>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<br>>
<br>> > Patrick Mayer wrote:
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Hi,
<br>> > >
<br>> > > I'm currently running linux on my computer (Red-Hat 5.2 distribution.
<br>Kernel
<br>> > > 2.xxx: I'm new at this!) and I would like to know if it is possible
to use
<br>a
<br>> > > UMAX 610S scanner with it (that's the SCSI version). Any guesses
of where
<br>I
<br>> > > should look for a driver?
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Thanks in advance!
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Another guy slowly getting addicted to AfterStep!
<br>> >
<br>> > Yes, with a SCSI card that is supported in Linux.
<br>> >
<br>> > I just got a UMAX Astra 2100S myself, and have read about linux
support
<br>> > for it at:
<br>> > <a href="http://www.mostang.com/sane/">http://www.mostang.com/sane/</a>
<br>> > <a
href="http://www.wolfsburg.de/~rauch/sane/sane-umax.html">http://www.wolfsburg.de/~rauch/sane/sane-umax.html</a>
<br>> > <a
href="http://www.wolfsburg.de/~rauch/sane/sane-umax-doc.html">http://www.wolfsburg.de/~rauch/sane/sane-umax-doc.html</a>
<br>> >
<br>> > The card UMAX ships doesn't seem to have avaliable drivers for
Linux,
<br>> > but if you run the scanner with a supported SCSI card, it will
work.
<br>> >
<br>> > I am looking to get a scsi card for my scanner now, so if you have
any
<br>> > recomendations, please read my post titled "SCSI Cheap/Supported?"
in
<br>> > this newsgroup, and respond ;-)
<br>> >
<br>> > --
<br>> > "Robert W. Current" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - email
<br>> > <a
href="http://www.current.nu">http://www.current.nu</a>
- personal web site
<br>> > "Hey mister, turn it on, turn it up, and turn me loose." - Dwight
Yoakam
<br>>
<br>> --
<br>> Glenn Trigg - Computer
Generation Incorporated
<br>> 4th Floor, 564 St Kilda
Road, Melbourne, Australia 3004
<br>> Tel: +61 3 9521 7431
Fax: +61 3 9521 7136
<br>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<br>>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John David Bowden)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: No 16bpp with >16mb ram?
Date: 21 Jan 1999 12:59:58 GMT
I need some help with this one - according to the Linux Gazette (ie. Gospel), if I
have an
ISA bus, and more than 16megs of physical ram, then I definitely can't run X higher
than
8bpp. Does this make sense?? Even if it does, is there any way to fix it?
John
--
Clones are people two.
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John Bowden Memorial University of Newfoundland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gabor)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:20:55 GMT
In comp.editors, Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
# * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gabor)
# | Writing evolved the way it has so we can communicate with each other.
#
# when did it stop evolving? how _does_ writing "evolve" to begin with,
# except for people who make small changes that get people like you so very
# upset? remember Noah Webster? the guy who decided that Americans should
# spell it "favor" instead of the French-inspired "favour", etc? he had a
# rough time with people like you, too. yet, his decision prevailed.
#
# | I was implying that it can be viewed as unncessary as well.
#
# you really don't understand what makes something unnecessary, so please
# shut the fuck up.
Ah, your intelligence is mind boggling. You must resort to sentences
like the above to get your point across.
#
# | Why bother. Why even bother with sntences, paragraphs or even words.
# | Just stick letters together as you please and act surprised when nobody
# | understands. :)
#
# funny you should mention that. punctuation and spacing evolved from
# precisely this way of writing, which prevailed for about 100 years. you
# can still find it in early stone inscriptions. various punctuation marks
# have developed over time, as well. @ is a contraction of "ad", & is a
# contraction of "et", the parentheses are fairly recent (and still some
# people hate them, especially in Lisp -- just goes to show that some forms
# of conservativism are hard to pacify).
#
# | What loss might this be? The letter is still the same letter. It hasn't
# | gone on strike and changed its meaning.
#
# so says you, who understand nothing, and continue to understand nothing,
# and likewise continue to create stupid things to attack that nobody has
Whatever you say, Mr. self-righteous.
# ever said or done. such is typical of a certain type of people, and they
# are frequently moralistic religious-conservative hypocrites. as I said,
# it's nice to smoke them out before they do any real damage.
How do you ascertain just whatI am like from a couple of posts? You
must be some mind reader or something. Care to share how you arrived
at the above? Especially since none of it is true.
# | We are talking about natural languages, not programming. Different issue.
#
# some people like to search electronic texts. they would like to find
# proper names when they look for proper names, and not find proper names
# when they do not look for proper names. otherwise, they would have to
# deal with a lot of context analysis to remove false positive hits.
#
You need to be sent SIGTERM!
# #:Erik
# --
# SIGTHTBABW: a signal sent from Unix to its programmers at random
# intervals to make them remember that There Has To Be A Better Way.
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From: Oded Arbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SiS 6326
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:22:29 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >there may not be drivers for the nVida chip yet.)
> > RedHat 5.1 running XFree86 3.3.3 seem to work quite well with my nVidis
> > RivaTNT card
> > Oded
> In fact, believe stock kernel (RH 5.0+) already supports AGP cards. I use
> RH5.0 with a SiS6326 AGP 4MB card, with a Suse driver, not the XFree driver (
> SiS not supported) - and it works just fine.
SiS is supported in XFree86 3.3.3 and higher. I have a SiS 6326 4M too -
it sits Idly in the box that the TNT came in. I offred it to some
people, even almost for free - nobody wants it.
>
> Rgds.
Oded
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From: Paul Hovnanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Registered Developer???
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:04:42 -0800
I'm going to rant for a while and then propose something to the
linux/open-source community.
<rant>
I have been involved in some development work that requires knowledge
of hardware specs. More and more, I run into vendors who state that
they will not release specs 'to the general public', but only to
'registered developers'.
"Well, where does one go to become a 'registered developer', I ask
rhetorically?" I'm sure most of you can guess the answer.
Now, it so happens that I do develop applications for, among other
things, MS WinXX. No problem. I just go down to the local software
store and but VB or VC++ off the shelf. But, this doesn't make me
a 'registered developer' and in some cases, the development tools
sold to the public are missing some major pieces.
"Where are these pieces?", I ask, feigning ignorance.
"Just sign up as a developer, and we'll send them out. Here's
your non-disclosure form and agreement not to ever develop for
competeing systems.", is the reply. No thanks.
Worse yet, there are a number of levels of 'developer' that one
can attain, and signing on as a developer in one field doesn't get
you blessed to deserve information on other areas. I've seen less
seedy marketing schemes land people in the Federal Penetentiary. :-(
Now, more and more vendors seem to get dragged into these schemes
(I can't see why they would do so voluntarily). 3Com has announced
a 'parnership' with Microsoft to build a line of network products
that 'will work with Windows'. What? Their existing product lines
don't??? We have seen WinModems and next we will see WinLans. And
WinVideo. And WinMice ...
</rant>
On the other hand, Linux is gaining quite a bit of market share.
Oracle now supports Linux, as do quite a few other commercial
products. Compaq and Dell will be installing Linux as an option
and will provide 7x24 support, Etc., etc. One potential vendor
for a project I am working on now just had their head handed to
them at a product convention and will now be releasing their
proprietary specs on an HDTV product. (I'll publish the name
when the specs hit my desk).
What we need is some encouragement for the vendors out there who
might still be attracted to the Dark Side. Why don't we (for some
yet undefined 'we') begin documenting the level of support that
vendors give toward open-source development. I'd rather see
'open-source' than 'Linux' lest this effort be seen as
anti-anything-else and I'm willing to live in a world where even
Microsoft has equal access. We need an open-source agreement for
vendors. Not just for last years product lines, but for all
new development. And then, we need to publish the list of
vendors who are open-source compliant and those who are not.
I am looking forward to the day when I can tell a vendor, "I'm
sorry, but you are not on my list of 'registered suppliers'.
I won't even write VB for your card."
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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