Linux-Hardware Digest #383, Volume #9 Mon, 8 Feb 99 01:13:40 EST
Contents:
FS: 4 NeXT NeXTStations(some Turbo Stations) ("Kent Rankin")
Re: K6-2 3dnow support anytime soon????? (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Linux apps in win2000 port news! (Matthew Hannigan)
Re: [help]compaq prosignia 500 with redhat5.2 memory problem (=?EUC-KR?B?udq8usHY?=)
Re: [help]compaq prosignia 500 with redhat5.2 memory problem (=?EUC-KR?B?udq8usHY?=)
Re: Linux apps in win2000 port news! (Matthew Hannigan)
Re: Creative Riva TNT 16MB Linux driver? (OPPIE)
Delaying eth0 initialization?! Why??? ("Kris Kasias")
Re: I need a Linux Guru for a printer problem.... (Ian Tester)
Re: Multiport Ethernet Cards (Allen)
Re: L2 cache kills linux : help! (M. Buchenrieder)
Lemarx ColorJet 1000 (Mark Hollett)
Re: Linux on a Jaz removable drive ("Michael Faurot")
wow! 32bpp and 12 gb (carlos)
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From: "Kent Rankin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FS: 4 NeXT NeXTStations(some Turbo Stations)
Crossposted-To: comp.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:16:39 GMT
The subject says it all. Here is the config:
NeXT NeXTStation Turbo
400MB Hard drive
0MB RAM(uses regular 30-pin SIMMS)
NeXT Keyboard
NeXT Mouse
NeXT Speakers
OS Loaded on the Hard drive
17" Megapixel Monitor
NeXT NeXTStation
0MB RAM
17" Megapixel Monitor
NeXT NeXTStation
0MB RAM
17" Megapixel Monitor
NeXT NeXTStation
0MB RAM
17" Megapixel Monitor
No power supply(can be picked up
cheaply, though)
They are located in Knoxville, TN, 37922-3449.
Pricing is as follows:
NeXTStation Turbo 300 OBO
NeXTStation 200 OBO
NeXTStation 200 OBO
NeXTStation w/o power supply 150 OBO
-Kent Rankin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: K6-2 3dnow support anytime soon?????
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:10:55 GMT
On 07 Feb 1999 21:44:08 -0500, Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>"Henrik �sterberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> subject says everything!!!
>> i would very much like Linux to be a great gaming OS, but 3dnow support
>> is required for that to happen!
>> plz.. make my prayers come true so i can finally dump windoze!!!
>
>1) 3dnow required for great gaming support? hardly. if you're serious
> about doing those heavy duty 3d rendered games with texture maps, get
> yourself a nice 3d accelerated card with 16M onboard.
To be sure, that's liable to be a more satisfactory resolution to the
"3D ain't fast enough" problem.
> of course, then those games will need to be ported, which probably won't
> happen en masse until an API (something like DirectX on widows) is
> present. (something existing like OpenGL or GGI may fit this, i really
> don't know the details...)
The effort ongoing at Precision Insight to integrate Mesa into XFree86
4.0 is probably the most relevant thing to consider.
And as you say, games need to be ported in order to exist...
>2) the linux kernel doesn't need to support 3Dnow, the compiler does, and
> there's already support being worked into egcs. then you just need to
> compile your program with it. oh, and don't forget that then your
> proggie won't run on any non-3Dnow chips unless you carefully split the
> code into seperate run time libs.
I'd say that this all goes together to support the conclusion that the
important aspect required to support 3DNow is the modularization of
XFree86. There is *zero* need for the kernel to support it; the
relevant code is in some combination of:
a) Application libraries,
b) Mesa libraries, and
c) XFree86.
I'm "living in hope" (or perhaps denial :-)) that XFree86 4.0 will be
available Real Soon Now; that is really the right place for support of
this to be centred, regardless of which "level of libraries" it goes in.
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/xwindows.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to Linux today?..."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Hannigan)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux apps in win2000 port news!
Date: 8 Feb 1999 04:20:31 GMT
In article <799h4s$2tp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
M Sweger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Although X-Windows is specific to Unix,
Nope. Wasn't even started on Unix AFAIK.
There also implementations on Amiga and OS/2.
All are _implementations_ of X, not "emulations"
of Unix or anything else.
--
-Matt
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From: =?EUC-KR?B?udq8usHY?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [help]compaq prosignia 500 with redhat5.2 memory problem
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 13:52:27 +0900
This is the answer to me !!!
from redhat FAQ
==========================================
Common Symptoms of Problem
My machine has 128 Megs of RAM, however linux only sees 64 megs of it.
What is going on, and how can I fix it?
Versions Affected by Problem
All
Probable Answer
There are a couple of things that could be causing Linux to not see all
your memory. On some 386's you need to compile your kernel with `Limit
memory to 16M?" enabled.
On most systems, the reason is that the BIOS has a limit of how much
memory it will tell the OS is present in the machine, even though the
board
can have more. Common limits seen with this problem are 16M, 32M, 64M,
and 128M. To get around this, we need to explicitly specify the amount
of
memory to the kernel at boot time via the mem=< actual memory goes here
> flag.
In the following example, we have a 32M machine but only 16M are being
seen by Linux. At the LILO prompt, we type
LILO: linux mem=32M(80M) <------- this really
works!!!!!!!!
After the machine boots, we use the free command to see if the larger
amount of memory was recognized by the kernel. If so, we can add an
append
line to the /etc/lilo.conf file and rerun lilo to make it happen
permanently. The example from above could look like the following:
boot=/dev/sda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.32
label=linux
root=/dev/sda1
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.0.32.img
read-only
append="mem=32M"
Do not forget to run lilo after editing the file.
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From: =?EUC-KR?B?udq8usHY?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [help]compaq prosignia 500 with redhat5.2 memory problem
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 13:54:30 +0900
I got it!!!!!!!!!!.
This is the answer to me !!!
from redhat FAQ
==========================================
Common Symptoms of Problem
My machine has 128 Megs of RAM, however linux only sees 64 megs of it.
What is going on, and how can I fix it?
Versions Affected by Problem
All
Probable Answer
There are a couple of things that could be causing Linux to not see all
your memory. On some 386's you need to compile your kernel with `Limit
memory to 16M?" enabled.
On most systems, the reason is that the BIOS has a limit of how much
memory it will tell the OS is present in the machine, even though the
board
can have more. Common limits seen with this problem are 16M, 32M, 64M,
and 128M. To get around this, we need to explicitly specify the amount
of
memory to the kernel at boot time via the mem=< actual memory goes here
> flag.
In the following example, we have a 32M machine but only 16M are being
seen by Linux. At the LILO prompt, we type
LILO: linux mem=32M(80M) <------- this really
works!!!!!!!!
After the machine boots, we use the free command to see if the larger
amount of memory was recognized by the kernel. If so, we can add an
append
line to the /etc/lilo.conf file and rerun lilo to make it happen
permanently. The example from above could look like the following:
boot=/dev/sda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.32
label=linux
root=/dev/sda1
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.0.32.img
read-only
append="mem=32M"
Do not forget to run lilo after editing the file.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Hannigan)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux apps in win2000 port news!
Date: 8 Feb 1999 04:24:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
D. J. Birchall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 03 Feb 1999 15:57:53 -0500, Adam P. Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>to start a non-gui Unix app you'd still need to actually log into the
>>Unix machine, whereas if you had a Unix emulator you could just run
>>them on your NT machine too.
>
>I have to wonder what sort of performance an NT system emulating
>UNIX would deliver. Has anyone played with this?
>
Well, since it is not an emulator, probably pretty good.
You can ask Interix for a demo copy and try it yourself.
It is an native implementation of the Unix/Posix API and utilities.
Emulator is usualy the wrong word for these sort of things,
and should reserved for hardware emulation.
Wine Is Not an Emulator either.
--
-Matt
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From: OPPIE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creative Riva TNT 16MB Linux driver?
Date: 8 Feb 1999 05:23:07 GMT
I had same problems...there are no drivers. You must get the updates for
VGA16,SVGA and XCONFIGURATOR.
Beneke - News wrote:
> Do any one know if Linux has a driver for the Creative Labs Graphics Blaster
> RIVA TNT AGP?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> JP Beneke
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From: "Kris Kasias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Delaying eth0 initialization?! Why???
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:00:26 GMT
Please help I'm just a newbie to Linux I'm sure this will be trivial to a
pro!
I've got a 3Com 3c900 PCI card doing a fresh install of Redhat Linux 5.1
(Macmillan CD). During the install it detects that the card is 3Com and
presents a list of possible choices, from which I choose the 3c900 and
choose to have the address assigned via DHCP. All is cool up to there.
When I boot I see the message "Delaying eth0 initialization" I've tried
going to the CESDIS web site and downloading the 3c59x.c Driver v0.99H
(Redhat linux ships with v0.99) and tried compiling it with no success just
compile errors. I can't imaging this is the problem though and I just
haven't learned enough to know how to kick this card in to operation under
Linux.
Things I've tried:
@Boot linux ether=0xB000,11,eth0 <-no luck
ifup eth0 <- Delaying eth0 initialization
Read the Cable-Modem Mini-HOWTO and followed everything step by step no luck
Read The Ethernet HOWTO verified all "TIPS&TRICKS"
The system its running on is configured as follows
PII-350
128MB Ram
2x5GB HD the first disk (linux /hda1) is Win98, second is totally dedicated
to Linux
Booting With LILO From Floopy
ASUS P2B Motherboard Bios r#1006
ATI Xpert@Work 4MB AGP
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I'm running out of things to try?!
Many thanks in advance!
Kris
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From: Ian Tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need a Linux Guru for a printer problem....
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:45:44 +1100
On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Frank wrote:
> Gerdjan Busker wrote:
> >
> > But are you sure /dev/lp1 is what you are after.
> > remember that lpt1: = /dev/lp0
>
> That is NOT correct for all systems !
>
> Unlike the SERIAL ports, where the numbering starts with 0 (and therefor
> com1 = /dev/cua0 etc) the numbering for parralel ports starts ON MOST
> SYSTEMS with 1 !
> Hence LPT1=/dev/lp1 in most cases.
> (In fact on all the systems I had this was the case, however I vaguely
> recall having heard about it depending on the bios or something and it
> sometimes being /dev/lp0....)
Ok, I'm some-what of a Linux Guru, so here's the deal -
With kernel version 2.0 and before, the ports were hard-coded with
the IO address of the port. i.e
/dev/lp0 was always for 0x3bc (rare)
/dev/lp1 was always for 0x378 (commonly the only port)
/dev/lp2 was always for 0x278 (usu. the second port)
(unless, of course, the IO port was passed as a parameter to the kernel or
module)
Since most systems only have one parallel port at 0x378, they would have a
/dev/lp1. But if it was changed, or if additional parallel ports exist,
then other /dev/lp<n> devices would be used. It also means a system could
have a /dev/lp0 and a /dev/lp2 if the ports were set up that way.
Now, with 2.1 things have changed. A nifty thing called 'parport'
has been introduced. I won't go into the things it does, I'll just say
that it is 'nifty' :) Anyway, the lp devices are now dynamically
allocated. The lp devices are numbered as they are _found_. So, most
systems now have a /dev/lp0 were they used to have a /dev/lp1.
If this isn't already in an FAQ, it definately belongs in one. RTFM!
(just finished writing an lp driver for our latest mulit-user card, so I
know aaaallll about this stuff :)
bye
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] \7\ LINUX: because geeks \7\ Ian Tester
http://www.imroy.ddns.org/ \7\ will find a way \7\ *8)#
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Subject: Re: Multiport Ethernet Cards
Date: 8 Feb 1999 06:03:03 GMT
The Adaptec/Cogent series are supported by the standard tulip driver,
I think... They are listed in the How-Tos and under supported
hardware.
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:33:13 -0800, "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Does anyone know of any quad or dual port ethernet cards supported by Linux?
>
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
fight spam everywhere!!!
The irony is that Bill Gates claims to making a
stable operating system and
Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world.
Linux; The Official OS of the New Millennium
http://www.linuxlink.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: L2 cache kills linux : help!
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:36:25 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (nine@) writes:
Please correct your newsreader settings. You won't make any friends
with 256 chars per line.
>just put together a quick & cheap linux box based around a
>Tekram P5MVP-B4 baby AT motherboard + AMD K6 350mhz cpu + SuSE 5.3.
>The disk set up is SCSI only - using an old adaptec AHA 1542b on one
>of the boards ISA slots (could this be significant?). Problem is
>that linux only runs with the L2 cache disabled (from the boards bios)!!
[...]
You have a memory/CPU problem. Please check the sig11 webpage at
http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11 .
Michael
--
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't mungle your address.
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From: Mark Hollett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lemarx ColorJet 1000
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:08:50 -0800
Has anyone managed to get one of these working properly under linux?
I've been playing with mine for months now, with no luck. Any hints or
suggestions would be welcome. TIA
mark h
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From: "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a Jaz removable drive
Date: 8 Feb 1999 04:36:09 GMT
Dave Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have a need to setup a number of systems where the OS is on a Iomega
: Jaz drive. I want to be able to put the appropriate OS in the Jaz
: drive and boot. Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) with
: such a setup?
I've been doing this. However my configuration is likely more complicated
than what you would want. My situation has a machine with two internal
IDE drives that are configured as BIOS devices 0x80 and 0x81 respectively.
My Jaz drive is hung from an Adaptec 2940. The Adaptec's BIOS has been
conifgured to make all the devices available as BIOS devices. So at boot
time, the Jaz drive requires a disk is present within it so that it can
be configured as BIOS device 0x82. If no Jaz disk is in the drive it
delays the boot by several minutes.
The boot IDE drive has LILO installed. On the IDE drives I've got
Linux and Windows 95. On various Jaz disks I've got Windows NT, SCO
Unix and Solaris.
Getting a paricular OS to boot from the Jaz drive requires some
advanced useage of LILO to properly configure things.
Likely, you'd want to simplify things so that the Jaz drive is the
sole boot device. Then it would be a simple matter of just putting
the Jaz disk in the machine and booting the OS you want.
--
==============================================================================
Michael | mfaurot | Numeric stability is probably not all that
Faurot | phzzzt.atww.org | important when you're guessing.
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From: carlos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: wow! 32bpp and 12 gb
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:08:34 GMT
last month I built a computer from new and used components with out a book
or access to another pc so all my decisions were based on price .I bought
a tomato tx98-3d motherboard from aberdeen for $55,a quantum bigfoot 5.25"
12.0gb harddrive from bestbuy for $200,a 16x cd rom for $30,and a venus
virge dgx4 videocard with 4 mb ram from unlimited pc for $35.The rest I
scrounged up ,100mhz k5,2 8mb simms,usrobotics 33.6 voice modem ,12"640x480
color monitor,mid tower case,ps/2 2 button mouse ,101 key win95 keyboard,fan
and conectors for about $75. I allready had win98 ,installed it and got
24 bpp color but i could see diffrence in colortones ,about a week after
i installed I got fed up with finding cracks and warez for simple programs
then i discovered linux i read about it for about two weeks then I bought
the official redhat 5.2 at bestbuy for $30 .Next i wiped out my harddrive
and partitioned it in 1/2 installed win98 then redhat .the next few days
turned me into a linux addict
Ijust finished partitioning my harddrive for the fifth time getting
over the 1024 clynder limit and the 8gb limit by using linux fdisk
in "x"pert I set my harddrive C,H,S to the manufacturers exact specs .
next I partitioned it as follows, 250 mb fat32 win98 ,250 mb ext2 /,the
rest is extended with 1gb partitions and a 100 mb swap at the very end
of the disk. I installed a bare minimum win 98 and a full install
redhat i was asked if i wanted to use the default 8bpp or custom
well i chose custom 24bpp
640x480 every thing works fine but to my surprise the colors looked
better than win98.later i shut down x and above the prompt the script that
flashed before x started said "SVGA: using 32bpp, depth 24, color weight 888"
right now im running enlightenment and by far does not look like the screen
shot I saw using windows
if your thinking of getting a new pc for linux and dont have much money I
suggest building yourself one
heres a few tips ,buy a brand new socket 7 or super 7 motherboard pc-98 standard,
a brand new 5.25" harddrive and a video card capable of 16.7m colors within your
monitors
limits
ps,im just a 18 year old hacker that loves to learn. im just doing this to clear my
consince
i feel like im breaking the law owning a system that runs better than what many people
pay four times more for.
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