Linux-Hardware Digest #386, Volume #9 Mon, 8 Feb 99 12:13:33 EST
Contents:
Re: 3COM sells crippled modems (was 3COM "support" (was: any voice capable/fax
modem software for use in warp4?)) (=?iso-8859-1?B?flRoZSCnZXZlbnRoIKdpZ24gfg==?=)
Re: Asus P2B-LS (Sergio Brandano)
Re: 5x85 with 64 MB memory (Joe Ringer)
linux on 386 ("TJ")
Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug? (Mark Tranchant)
Re: probs with SiS 6326 AGP card (Stephan Skrodzki)
Re: Modem problems (Lucifer)
Re: DVD-RAM drives (Sergio Brandano)
HELP - Need Video reccomendations (Glen Berry)
Re: Linux on Alpha ("Richard Payne")
Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug? ("George G")
Help with choosing a printer ("Benjamin T. White, M.D.")
Re: Delaying eth0 initialization?! Why??? (Andrew Heckerling)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Bob Nelson)
Re: V90 Modemcard? (Gary Momarison)
Compaq AMD K6-2/333 Laptop and Linux ("Brian Schell")
Re: Exabyte Mammoth and cheap media? (Bryan K. Wright)
Re: Matrox G200 PCI support Linux?? (Michael Meissner)
Re: Celeron and Linux How about it? (Michael Meissner)
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From: =?iso-8859-1?B?flRoZSCnZXZlbnRoIKdpZ24gfg==?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.setup.misc,comp.os.os2.comm
Subject: Re: 3COM sells crippled modems (was 3COM "support" (was: any voice
capable/fax modem software for use in warp4?))
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 02:56:38 -0500
Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?B?flRoZSCnZXZlbnRoIKdpZ24gfg==?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Just to let you know what the � key is
Hold down the alt key on the left.
Type 155 on the numeric keypad to the right and release.
Just My 2 � worth I do not know if it is readable in Linux though ;o)
--
~The �eventh �ign ~
Life on this planet has such limited visions.
If aliens in outerspace tapped into the Internet what would they say?
Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:"�g�H" wrote:
:>
:> In <78vhtg$dpc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/30/99
:> at 06:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee) said:
:>
:> >And just is this higher connect rate? 46-49k for the Couriers vs.
45-48k
:> >for the average v.90 modem? At least these are the real-world connect
:> >rates that I've seen most often posted for these modems.
:>
:> >Still want to claim that Couriers aren't over-hyped yuppie status
symbols?
:>
:> Nope, it is not... My courier was purchased as a 33.6K Modem, upgraded
to X2
:> and then V.90, all FREE... and all of THAT was done when the X2 and V.90
is
:> out... factoring in the cost of upgrading to the latest modem technology
:> right when it is out... My Couier have saved me about $300 or more...
:
:
:Bought sportser @ 33.6 and then upgraded to v.90 ... no cost other than
:initial purchase, which was far less than 250$US, and my connect rate
:sticks at 49333 with *very* good throughput.
:
:my .02USD
:
:Bill
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From: Sergio Brandano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Asus P2B-LS
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:58:51 +0000
P Wong wrote:
> I want to build a new computer using the asus P2B-LS motherboard. It has
> adaptec AIC 7890 & 3860 80MB/s Ultra2 Wide SCSI Onboard and an IDE
> interface. For Networking, it uses the intel 82558 100/10Mbps LAN
> Onboard chip. Are both the scsi and lan chips supported by redhat linux?
> If not is there any device driver out there that can utilize them? Also,
> what type of rewritable CD-ROM drives does linux support?
Please avoid my mistake.
I had the same problem few days ago. The 3860 chip was missing, and the
SCSI controller
recognized my device randomly. Now I have a plain P2B and a marvelous
Adaptec U2W
for about 100� more. Concerning the Ethernet, I found no support for it.
I now have a 3com
3c905B-TX, and no problems at all.
Sergio
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Ringer)
Subject: Re: 5x85 with 64 MB memory
Date: 8 Feb 1999 12:05:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:36:45 +0100, Matthias V�lker wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I used a 5x86 AMD with 32 MB memory and SuSE 6.0.
>Yesterday, I upgraded to 64 MB memory, but it seems to be slower.
>
>Why????
Your mobo probably isn't caching the upper 32MB.
--
clear skies, |http://www.erols.com/jringer3/astro1.htm
Joe |
|It all boils down to freedom. A shrink-wrap
|agreement is, at best, a mild form of bribery
|and at its worst, nothing short of slavery.
|--Walter Dunz
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From: "TJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux on 386
Date: 8 Feb 1999 13:27:43 GMT
I read that Linux can run on 386 mechine. However, what is the hard disk
capacity required to load Linux ?
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug?
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:15:57 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Put BootGUI=0 in the [Options] section of C:\MSDOS.SYS, which forces
Win95 to boot to a DOS prompt. Then use a CONFIG.SYS menu to choose
between DOS, Win95 and Linux.
Mark.
Rick Onanian wrote:
>
> Javier Pulido wrote:
>
> > ��SOS!!
> >
> > Problems with the booting of linux in a computer AMD K6-2 (300 MHz) with
> > i430TX (no AGP) and 128 MB, two hard drives and 1 CDROM. Can you help me?
> >
> > After many attempts of booting with several kernels (2.0.29, 2.0.30, 2.1.48,
> > 2.0.35, 2.0.36) through a boot-disk, LILO or LOADLIN (Symbol of System,
> > option F8 of Windows95), I realize only procedure that was operating:
> >
> > 1. I Start Windows95/98 (graphic environment)
> > 2. I restart in MSDOS-Mode
> > 3. C:> loadlin zImage2_2 root=/dev/hdc3 mem=128M no-hlt
>
> I have heard of someone who ran loadlin similar to you (boot into win, then
> restart in dos mode) and it wouldn't work. It did work, however, if they didn't
> boot into win first - do a cold boot, and when it says starting windows 9x, hist
> the F8 key, and choose "Command Prompt Only", or even better (probably more
> likely to work:): "Safe Mode Command Prompt Only." The latter will totally skip
> loading any piece of M$ software that's not necesary to give you a prompt. Then
> try your loadlin...linux shouldn't have trouble throwing out M$ then..
>
> Other possibility: Make sure your kernel supports: FAT, FAT32 (VFAT), and
> UMSDOS. All three.
>
> Worst case scenario: boot disk. Or chop your partition, and lilo...
>
> rick
>
> >
> >
> > If I don�t use option no-hlt, the system starts but is hung in little
> > minutes, and it shown me all the processor registers, the stack and the
> > message "idle task may not sleep".
> >
> > In the attempts rest of starting were remained hung when was ending the
> > load kernel in report: Loading linux ....... (!!stop!!)
> >
> > My system crashes while it�s booting. I
> >
> > I only can boot linux in three steps:
> >
> > 1> loading Windows95
> >
> > 2> Restart in MSDOS MODE
> > 3> loadlin kernel2.2 /dev/hdc3 no-hlt (root in /dev/hdc3)
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From: Stephan Skrodzki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: probs with SiS 6326 AGP card
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 11:46:21 +0000
Bill Manwaring wrote:
>
> Grahame & Steve:
>
> I've just gotten an 8-meg 6326 running, via XFree86 3.3.3.1 (turned out
> there was an RPM for Red Hat 5.2 that made it easy). My settings within
> /etc/X11/XF86Config are:
>
> Section Device
> Identifier "sis6326"
> VideoRam 8192
> DacSpeed 170 # 175 max according to driver README file
> Option "fast_vram"
> Option "sw_cursor" #without it I get a white square for cursor
> EndSection
>
> Section Screen
> Driver "SVGA"
> Device "sis6326"
> Monitor (whatever..)
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth 24
> Modes "1024x768" "1280x1024" "640x480" "800x600"
> Virtual 1024 768
> Viewport 0 0
> End Subsection
> End Section
>
> This works well for me, but my monitor can handle fast scan rates. The
> default of 'startx' is the first mode, and the Virtual 1024 768 sets the
> screen size so everything fits. Ctl-alt-+ moves you thru the modes,
> but I've ordered them so the best is first.
>
> The driver is probably full of bugs, and supposedly has only been tested
> on a few boards, but graphics look good done this way.
Hmm... on my PCChips 8 Meg Sis 6326 I don't have a chance running the 24
Bit... I have a vertical tiled screen... showing the half of the colors
in each screen...
Also I have to add: Option "no_bitblt" as without I don't get text an
bad refrehs while moving windows... Annoying: no_bitblt makes it very
slow...
Is your 6326 acceptable fast?
My conclusion is that this was my first and last trial to buy a board
with integrated vga. Of course, I could insert another PCI-VGA... but
I'm running out of slots then...
Regards
Steve
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| Stephan Skrodzki "Nobody expects
the |
| Mannheim, Germany Spanish
Inquisition!" |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lucifer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Modem problems
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 11:56:16 GMT
Now im very confused...
You said your SupraExpress 56i modem works with Linux?
I cheched the spec for that modem, and the minimum requirement
is Win3.1 or Win95/98 or NT...Then i supposed this is a "winmodem"
and should not works on linux. Am i wrong???
Eric.
On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 03:13:50 +0000, Owen Lloyd
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Gerow wrote:
>>
>> Dionysus wrote:
>> >
>> > I have a SupraExpress56i that uses IRQ 11 and it works! What you have to do
>> > is set your modem to the proper Com then from the command line type
>> > setserial /dev/modem irq 9.
>> >
>>
>> Ahh yes... Didn't know that.
>>
>> Besides a SupraExpress 56i is a top quality modem......
>>
>> Now I'll stand back and watch the flames fly from the faithful USR
>> users.
>
>
>Not at all mate! I have a USR modem and have tested a SupraExpress on
>the same system and I found that while the two modems performed about
>the same for filetransfers and geberal throughput - latency on the supra
>was considerably less (about 30ms less in most cases). This is of no
>relevance whatsoever for web browsing and file transfers, but for
>intereactive protocols it makes a big difference. Like er playing Q2 for
>eg...:=]
>
>I'd buy one, but I reckon DSL is just around the corner in this neck of
>the woods!
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From: Sergio Brandano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD-RAM drives
Date: 8 Feb 1999 12:45:21 GMT
Matthew Fleming wrote:
> The title says it all: is there any support for these puppies under
> Linux? Ideally I'd like to be able to write as well as read the disks.
I have a Panasonic LF-D101 (scsi), and I can read everithing with it.
In principle one may also write in it, in being an SCSI device.
fdisk says:
> --> fdisk /dev/scd0
> You will not be able to write the partition table.
> You must set heads sectors and cylinders.
> You can do this from the extra functions menu.
>
> Command (m for help): p
>
> Disk /dev/scd0: 0 heads, 0 sectors, 0 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 1 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System
>
> Command (m for help):
The manual says:
> Sector/track 17-40 (ZCLV)
> Track/side 45,701
but no mention about the number of heads (2?) and cylinders.
Sergio
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:07:26 -0500
From: Glen Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP - Need Video reccomendations
I use Red Hat 5.2, and I've read the hardware incompatibility lists on
their site, but I would really like some personal reccomendations for a
video card that will *definitely* allow me to use "X" in 1024x768, true
color mode.
It needs at least 4Meg of RAM, and should fit in my PC's PCI slot. (I
don't have AGP.) 3D isn't a big concern for me, I'm mainly interested in
true color at 1024x768 resolution.
--
Thanks,
Glen Berry
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(remove the "7" to reply via personal email)
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From: "Richard Payne" <payner at timken dot com>
Subject: Re: Linux on Alpha
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:59:31 -0500
That sounds like a Cabriolet board. We don't have any Cabriolet specific
info yet, though I think there are some docs at the Compaq archives.
More info can be found at:
http://www.alphalinux.org
--
Rich Payne
(Speaking for myself, not my employer)
payner at timken dot com
Looking for Alpha-Linux info?
http://www.alphalinux.org
David J. Novak wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
> I've got linux up on a couple of machines at home, and was thinking
>about expanding to non-X86 based versions. Has anybody run Linux on an
>Alpha 21064A at 275 Mhz? I can pick up a motherboard pretty cheap, but
>I'm wondering how it will compete with my K6-233. Any comments or
>thoughts?
>
> David
>
>--
>David J. Novak GSM Radio Firmware
>Cellular Infrastructure Group GPD
>Motorola v1.8
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> -Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
>
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From: "George G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug?
Date: 8 Feb 1999 14:27:27 GMT
> Rick Onanian wrote:
> >
> > Javier Pulido wrote:
> > > Problems with the booting of linux in a computer AMD K6-2 (300 MHz)
with
> > > i430TX (no AGP) and 128 MB, two hard drives and 1 CDROM. Can you
help me?
Dunno if this will help with your system, but it worked on my test-bed 486.
I installed Slackware 2.0.32 on my first HDD (1G) ages ago. It's always
been plugged in as primary master.
Then I added a couple of itsy-bitsy 165M HDDs (just for win95 stuff) as
prim slave and sec master. Modifying lilo to recognise the new drives is
well documented, so I won't go into it here.
The trick to making this setup work was physically disconnecting the linux
drive, then setting the jumpers on hdb (temporarily) to prim master while
installing Win95. Once the thing was in, I swapped jumpers to revert the
drive to prim slave. Now, when lilo boots into Win95, it simply refuses to
recognise the prim master. Instead, it treats hdb and hdc as C:\ and D:\.
Reads from the CD-ROM too. Doesn't see Linux on the prim master at all, but
that's to be expected from a Microsoft product :)
The tricky bit came when I recently added extra RAM. It appeared to confuse
the Win95 registry. I think it had to do with system files on the third
hard drive (remember, it thinks it's the second HDD under Win95, not the
actual third). In the end, I just wiped C:\ and D:\ and reinstalled. This
combination still works (at least as well as Win95 COULD be expected to
work).
George
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From: "Benjamin T. White, M.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with choosing a printer
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:11:11 -0500
Hello all,
I need some help in deciding on a printer for a Linux system at home. I
need an inexpensive color injet for light home use. I have been to the
stores and have done a bit of online research. The printers I have seen
include:
HP 697C
HP 895Cse
HP 712C, 722C -- PPA printers, not a good choice
Canon BJ 4400
Epson 440
I have gone over the Ghostscript printer compatability home page, and
most of these printers are not listed. Most of the injet printers
listed on that page are not easily found. My question is has anyone out
there had any experience with these printers, and if anyone has some
suggestions on picking an inexpensive color injet for use with Linux.
Thanks in advance.
Ben White
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Andrew Heckerling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Delaying eth0 initialization?! Why???
Date: 8 Feb 1999 14:39:54 GMT
You get this error when ifconfig fails to configure the interface properly,
usually because the proper module is not loaded. The first thing I would try
is insmod'ing the module you do have (you should have a file called 3c59x.o
lying around somewhere, hopeful in /lib/modules/{your kernel version}/net).
If that works, then you should be able to re-run ifup and have it work. My
guess is that 3c59x.o won't be in any of the standard modules directories;
(/lib/modules/{kernel version}/net, /lib/modules/preferred/net, etc) and that
is why kerneld isn't loading it automatically. If you find it somewhere else,
put it in one of these directories and next time it should be loaded when
ifconfig needs it.
This all assumes that you don't actually have the driver linked into your
kernel. If you do, I have no idea why it could be doing this.
Andy
Kris Kasias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
: I've got a 3Com 3c900 PCI card doing a fresh install of Redhat Linux 5.1
: (Macmillan CD). During the install it detects that the card is 3Com and
: presents a list of possible choices, from which I choose the 3c900 and
: choose to have the address assigned via DHCP. All is cool up to there.
: When I boot I see the message "Delaying eth0 initialization" I've tried
: going to the CESDIS web site and downloading the 3c59x.c Driver v0.99H
: (Redhat linux ships with v0.99) and tried compiling it with no success just
: compile errors. I can't imaging this is the problem though and I just
: haven't learned enough to know how to kick this card in to operation under
: Linux.
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From: Bob Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 29 Jan 1999 00:06:39 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In comp.editors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> FWIW, I like /both/ kinds of music [...]
Me too. Country and and the other kind, western.
--
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Bob Nelson -- Dallas, Texas, USA ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
http://www.oldradio.com/archives/nelson/open-computing.html
``Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.''
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: V90 Modemcard?
Date: 08 Feb 1999 08:13:16 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Wick) writes:
> Hello,
>
> is there a real V90 Modemcard in the Market? I think most of all Cards will
> be such crippled Wintrash and won't work.
Check the "Modem List" in http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/modems.html
IIRC, I've seen on this NG that USR's non-Winmodem works. Use DejaNews.
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: "Brian Schell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compaq AMD K6-2/333 Laptop and Linux
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:00:36 -0500
They've got them cheap in a local store advertisement and I'm seriously
thinking about getting one... Has anyone gotten Linux to run on of these?
I would never have a Compaq Desktop machine due to proprietary foolishness,
but how is this laptop?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bryan K. Wright)
Subject: Re: Exabyte Mammoth and cheap media?
Date: 8 Feb 1999 16:43:16 GMT
Stuart R. Fuller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Bryan K. Wright ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
<stuff deleted>
: Interesting. You say that you're going to use this tape drive for backups,
: but want to use the cheaper tapes that are known to not work in this drive.
: Why bother doing the backups, then?
: After all, the purpose of doing backups is to be able to restore them at some
: point in time. If the tape drive is known to not work with these cheaper
: tapes, then why bother? I would think that if the data is sufficiently
: important to backup, then the cost of the media should a lesser consideration.
: Stu
I think you're missing the point, Stu. Obviously, I'd like to find
cheaper tapes that WORK with this drive. Otherwise, I'll return it
and get 8505 drives instead. Here's the math:
1 Fuji 160M 8mm tape = $11.00 = 14 GB
3 Fuji 160M 8mm tapes = $33.00 = 42 GB
but...
1 Sony 170M 8mm AME tape = $93.00 = 40 GB
Bottom line:
$93.00 > $33.00
And, since the cost of 3 8505 drives is about the same as the cost of
one mammoth, plus you get the added flexibility of using different
drives for different things, why should I keep the mammoth and pay
so much for the specialized media?
Bryan
--
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Bryan Wright |"If you take cranberries and stew them like
Physics Department | applesauce, they taste much more like prunes
University of Virginia | than rhubarb does." -- Groucho
Charlottesville, VA 22901 |
(804) 924-7218 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,hk.comp.os.linux,hk.comp.os.unix,hklug.general,hklug.group
Subject: Re: Matrox G200 PCI support Linux??
Date: 08 Feb 1999 10:57:13 -0500
whywhys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> All,
> want to ask whether the G200 PCI card support Linux X-windows or
> not?
> Any help?? HOW-TO configure the driver using Xf86config???
> Thankx
XFreee 3.3.3.1 (as opposed to 3.3.3) specifically mentions supporting the PCI
G200 (I would imagine 3.3.3 supported the AGP card, but not the PCI card).
--
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions (Massachusetts office)
4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 617-354-5416 (office), 617-354-7161 (fax)
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From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Celeron and Linux How about it?
Date: 08 Feb 1999 10:48:38 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff) writes:
> In article <79ckcv$8dn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Smartpatrol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have been dinking around with linux for a little while however I don't
> >know where or how to pass the MEM= to the Kernel. Is it part of compileing
> >or in a seperate boot file?
>
> Fortunately this little piece of Linux lore is soon to die the ignoble death
> it so richly deserves.
>
> Get the latest 2.2.X kernel (2.2.1 as of this writing) and compile it.
> Not only will your system run faster due to improved memory management etc.,
> the kernel will now automagically detect the correct amount of memory.
Well yes and no. If you are not prepared to upgrade several of the tools and
commands (partiuclarly if you use firewalling or masquarading), you probably
want to wait until the distributions come out. However, I believe the 2.0.36
version of the kernel also supports the new BIOS call.
> Once all the distributions upgrade to 2.2.X releases, this issue will finally
> be just a bad memory.
Except it will propigate in the form of obsolete FAQs for a couple of years
(like the old 16 meg swap limitation, use of Diamond Video cards and Adaptec
scsi controllers, etc.).
--
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions (Massachusetts office)
4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 617-354-5416 (office), 617-354-7161 (fax)
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