Linux-Hardware Digest #30, Volume #10 Thu, 15 Apr 99 04:13:34 EDT
Contents:
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (GAZZA)
IBM ISA Token Ring Failing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
still having trouble with ISDN / Modem pcmcia-card (Karsten Pawlik)
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) ("Charles R.
Lyttle")
Microtek Scanmaker 35t+ (henk van der knaap)
video, X for Dell Latitude Cpi D233ST (Larry Weisberg)
hard disk stops (Alumne OSCAR RENALIAS GRENO FIB)
how do i stop my printer?? (Franc)
Another name for Triton? (Bill Eichin)
Re: Can't install RH5.2 (Dan)
Re: Time Problems (Bob Martin)
Re: XFree86 problem on a Compaq Armada 1750 (Marc Mutz)
Re: ping utility ("James Kosin")
Re: ! Zip AND // port ("Nicolas JOYARD")
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From: GAZZA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:58:30 +0800
westprog wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> GAZZA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Do you have any evidence that this is a "major breakthrough"? I
> > certainly can't recall any sleepless nights as a young'un wondering
> > if "bob" and "BOB" were the same person.
>
> Like most things we learn in the first few years of life, these are
> enormously difficult concepts which we take for granted later. The
> ability to interpret a range of different symbols as having the same
> meaning is one of many examples of how much smarter humans are than
> computers.
I'll take that as a "no, I don't have any such evidence", then,
shall I?
Learning to spell might be hard; learning to punctuate properly
might be hard. Learning to capitalise is not. IMHO, at least,
and you haven't shown me that yours is anything more than YHO.
I'm prepared to be convinced, but at the very least I'll want
something more than rhetoric.
> > So what? DOS isn't English; Unix isn't English. If that's what
> > you're attempting to prove, then well done. Otherwise your analogy
> > is not particularly apt.
>
> As long as we use readable English text, we benefit from using the
> same conventions, where appropriate.
VAR a:INTEGER;
a:=0;
a:=a+1;
WRITELN(a^2);
No English text there at all, except maybe the word "integer".
Computer programs generally resemble mathematics more than
English, IMHO.
> > > It is only in the strange world of Unix that we have to unlearn
> > > this.
>
> > ... as well as (I'd guess) 50%+ of programming languages.
>
> Fortran? Pascal? ADA? Assembler (any that I have worked with)? DCL?
> Basic?
One by one, then, shall we?
- Fortran was able to be used on machines when lower case didn't
even exist. The fact that it is "case insensitive" is a historical
accident.
- By reading most Pascal books, you'd probably come away with the
impression that they were case sensitive. It's very rare for them
to switch case halfway through.
- I've never seen any ADA code in lower case, except for the
occasional text string. YMMV, of course.
- Calling Assembler a "language" is a bit of a stretch, since it
isn't "compiled" (it's "assembled", which is a very important
distinction). But I'll give you that one, as well as Basic. I'm
not familiar with DCL.
> Only languages from the C family (C, C++, Java, Perl) are
> case-sensitive in my experience. (Not that I claim to know more
> than a handful).
Perhaps I was hasty in my estimate. However:
- The C family are the most widely used programming languages
collectively (CoBOL might have them beat, though, and of course
that is case-insensitive for much the same reason Fortran is).
- Even in case insensitive language, one tends to enforce case
anyway by convention.
> > Are you
> > completely against case sensitivity, even in (say) C or Perl?
>
> Yes, except in the special case where a language operates on its
> own tokens and text strings interchangeably. (Not a common
> situation).
Ah. Well, we disagree.
> > The problem is that humans aren't the only ones reading or creating
> > files. Suppose I have a program that generates a configuration file
> > after asking the user a few basic questions. Now, if there's already
> > a configuration file there, I want to (at least) rename it to a
> > backup (or possibly prompt the user for an overwrite, or whatever).
> > Let's say that I know the configuration file is called "config.txt".
> > If case is important, I can simply write a program to search a
> > directory listing for "config.txt". If case is NOT important, I have
> > to be careful to also match "Config.TXT" (typically, I suppose I'd
> > uppercase the whole directory listing first). It's an extra step
> > that really doesn't buy you very much, IMHO.
>
> Search case-insensitive. Every string library has it, even C.
It's not like I don't know HOW to do it. It's just not the "normal"
way to do things - for me, at least.
> > I'm wondering why there's even an argument, to be honest. I'd
> > imagine the type of people that complain that "MyFilename.txt"
> > doesn't match "myFileName.txt" are the type that would typically
> > use a GUI File Manager of some description anyway. Certainly I'm
> > too lazy to type that out in full; that's what filename completion
> > is for.
>
> GUI's just mask the problem to a limited extent. Name completion
> doesn't work for myfilename if the file is called MyFileName.
Then make a shell where it WILL work. There's certainly no reason
it can't be done.
> > What OSes do a "one-line conversion"?
>
> One line of C. Equivalent code in any other language.
Oh; you mean search for a file name case insensitive.
Yes, Unix shells don't do this. They could, but nobody (to my
knowledge) has written one that does yet.
> > It sounds suspiciously like
> > you're suggesting if I name a file "gazza.txt" it should store it
> > as "GAZZA.TXT" the way DOS used to do.
>
> No, it should store it as gazza.txt, and retrieve gazza.txt when I
> enter GAZZA.txt . Case preservation, not sensitivity.
As long as we're agreed that case is preserved, then, all you need
to do is write or locate a shell that will retrieve files with
case insensitivity.
> > OTOH, if you're suggesting that every Unix application go through
> > an extra level of indirection (ie a case-insensitive string match)
> > just to identify files, then I respectfully disagree.
>
> Would you like to compare the cost of a case insensitive compare (the
> conversion is, as I said, one line of C) with the time taken to read a
> directory or take input from a keyboard? Negligible, IMHO.
Note that I said "every Unix application". I'm not opposed to the
idea of creating a shell that did this (so that the other applications
could just ignore it). I wouldn't USE such a shell, but who am I to
tell people what shell to use?
> > and so forth (that is, autogenerated filenames that simply step
> > through ASCII to generate the next one). It's a nice feature of
> > Unix that even special characters like quotes, spaces and the like
> > CAN be part of a filename. It's true that humans see little use
> > for this, but they do allow some nice tricks for computer-generated
> > filenames. It would be a shame, IMHO, to remove this facility.
>
> char filename[2];
>
> filename[0] = 'A';
> filename[1] = 'A';
> filename[2] = 0;
>
> for(int i=0;i<NUMFILES;i++)
> {
> // write the file
> c[0]++;
> if (c[0] > 'Z') {c[1]++; c[0] = 'A'};
> };
>
> Sensible filenames with a tiny block of code (albeit scribbled
> down and untested).
Sure, it's a solution. I could also just use numbers at the end.
The point being: I can do it either way with Unix as it currently
is, but I can't do it my way if the file system starts to ignore
case. Flexibility is generally a good thing.
--
Cheers,
GAZZA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: IBM ISA Token Ring Failing
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 06:20:54 GMT
My apologies if anyone's actually covered THIS instance of IBM ISA Token Ring
16/4 problems, but if they did, I couldn't find it, or a responsive thread.
In any case, my problem isn't overly severe but a nuisance nonetheless. I've
recently installed a Linux box to act as an FTP server to our clients. The
load on it is expected to be fairly low and the files to be transferred are
generally less than 1MB. The box is an old 486DX50, with 16MB and two 500MB
drives (only one of which was necessary for actual use, but the other
formatted with vfat and ready to go should we need the space) -- and the IBM
ISA Token Ring Auto 16/4 Adapter.
On startup, the system initializes the card properly (I've set up plenty in
Win95, so that part was easy), and everything goes well in establishing the
server. In fact, in testing, it took five hours of continues requests made on
our internal LAN at a rate of about 5 requests per minute, transferring a 500k
file, to generate a problem.
The problem is that the adapter detects that "the token ring is busy for 50ms
or more" and goes into a wait state (with some message about Daniel resetting
the card, "but I don't"...) and never comes back on the ring. I have devised
a way to reinitialize the card myself (using an &'ed command that pings every
now and then and sees if the network is up -- better ideas please forward!),
so our downtime is rarely more than a minute. I've noticed, however, that
certain files can trigger this occurrence as well. I transferred an Excel
spreadsheet to the server, then attempted to retrieve it (both ways strictly
by FTP -- remember, this server is dedicated just to that task); as soon as
the transfer begins, the "busy" message appears on the Linux console and the
system is off the ring until my reset scheme kicks in.
I have to admit, I'm still a newbie at Linux and configuration, but it has
been a great learning experience getting this far. I'm constantly amazed by
what an old 486 can do with the right OS on it. Now, if I could just lick
this problem, I could tackle my next objective: replacing our old OS/2
server (a P90 with 64MB) with a Linux box. <eg>
~Clay
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From: Karsten Pawlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: still having trouble with ISDN / Modem pcmcia-card
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:35:16 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi.
does anyone have any expierience in installing a PCMCIA
modem&ISDN-combi-card?
i try to get my IBM waverunner-card to work under linux, but it seems to
be impossible...
no drivers match, no sourcecode is available...
n-e-one got an idea?
thx.
kfo
*** There's no Windows like X-Windows... ***
Karsten Pawlik
Webadress: http://www.designlab.de
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From: "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:41:54 GMT
Osvaldo Pinali Doederlein wrote:
>
> Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I think this is one of the stupidist threads I have ever seen. Why are
> > Linux/UNIX filesystems case-sensitive - because humans are case
> > sensitive thats why.
>
> This is a completely INCORRECT thing to state. Case has not been an issue
> for thousands of years in written language, and it's still inexistent in
> spoken language. I think it's still inexistent in lots of language using
> different characters than ours. Communication problems due to wrong case
> will not happen in ANY media except computers! You may be some borg droid
> who prefers to tailor humanity to computers, but most people ain't that
> fanatic and prefer the other way around... particularly nontechnical users.
>
> Let's imagine Jerry in his home speaking to somebody "could you please gimme
> a can of Coke-with-capital-C??" because if you don't make the case explicit,
> one can assume all-lowercase by default and find only "Coke" in the freezer
> and say "Sorry Jerry-with-capital-J, there is no coke". Totally stupid
> scenario, eh? And enforcing case sensitivity in filesystems or programming
> languages is also stupid. Yeah, humans are case sensitive, pff...
>
> > If you don't beleive it tHEn pResUmAbLy YoU fiNd tHIs seNtanCe JusT As
> > eAsY tO ReaD as The ResT Of tHIs eMaIl - wHat IdiOt woUld dISpuTe iT ?
>
> I always use consistent and beautiful case, but this is a matter of style
> and readability, and such things are not good to be enforced by dumb
> programs. If I forget the case of some file and type it wrong, or if I
> forget the capslock key on, I don't have the shell bitching stupid error
> messages. This is a huge usability issue, and I don't think Unix has a lot
> of fame for being an user-friendly OS.
Language os case semsitive. Just as pen and pin are pronounced slightly
differently, so are Bob and bob. Are you listening, JERRY? Post
something in all UC and you will get lots of flames about shouting.
PEOPLEOFTHEROMANEMPIERONCEWROTELIKETHISBUTTHEYQUITPRETTYSOONAFTERDISCOVERINGCAPSANDSPACES
--
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
Thank you Melissa!
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From: henk van der knaap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,linux.debian.user
Subject: Microtek Scanmaker 35t+
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:36:08 +1200
Dear Readers,
I have been trying to use the Microtek Scanmaker 35 plus under Linux with
the Sane software package. It does work under Windows on the same machine.
My Microtek Scanmaker II works without any problems whatsoever, when I use
scanimage or xscanimage with Gimp.
The kernel reports the following when booting up:
*************************************************************************
aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s) aha152x0: vital data:
PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=11, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled,
synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended translation=disabled aha152x:
trying software interrupt, ok. scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver;
$Revision: 1.7 $ scsi : 1 host.
Vendor: Microtek Model: ScanMaker 35t+ Rev: 1.40
Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2]
parport0: no IEEE-1284 device present.
*************************************************************************
find-scanner gives the following message:
**************************************************************************
find-scanner: searching for scanners:
find-scanner: checking /dev/scanner... open ok
find-scanner: found scanner "Microtek ScanMaker 35t+ 1.40" at device
/dev/scanner
find-scanner: checking /dev/sg0... open ok
find-scanner: found scanner "Microtek ScanMaker 35t+ 1.40" at device /dev/sg0
******************************************************************************
This means that the scanner is present and somehow recognised.
However scanimage gives the following error message:
*****************************************************************************
scanimage -d microtek /dev/scanner
Scanimage: open of device microtek failed: Invalid argument.
******************************************************************************
Does anybody have any idea what is going on here, or what I am doing
wrong? Is there anybody who has had the same experience? Should I maybe
change the SCSCI ID?
Any help would be much appreciated. Also many thanks to the people who
answered my query about laser printers.
Many thanks from
Henk
Henk van der Knaap,
92 Halswell Junction Road,
Christchurch, New Zealand.
Phone/fax 64 3 3229185
Operating system is Linux Debian 2.1
===================================================
My e-mail address is as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:49:46 +0300
From: Larry Weisberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: video, X for Dell Latitude Cpi D233ST
I am trying to get Linux setup up with X on my Dell (Latitude Cpi
D233ST, Model PPL, with NeoMagic 128XD), but am having some trouble. I
installed RedHat 5.1
I saw various references to XFCom server RPM on Redhat's FTP, but I can
no longer get to ftp.redhat.com. Does someone have a new URL and/or any
other suggestions for getting my laptop up and running?
Thanks,
Larry
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From: Alumne OSCAR RENALIAS GRENO FIB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: hard disk stops
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:59:13 +0200
Sometimes, when the hard disk is reading, it suddenly stops, and the
kernel shows the following message:
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: irq timeout: status=0xd2 { Busy }
hda: DMA disabled
hdb: DMA disabled
This message is shown the first time this happens. Then message is:
ide0: reset: success
hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
The hda device is a Samsung UltraDMA hardisk, and the hdb is a Conner
Peripherals, without UltraDMA support.
Is there a solution for this problem? (please, help!! loading nestscape
or emacs sometimes is horrible!!!)
Oscar Renalias
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Franc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how do i stop my printer??
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:48:43 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help! I accidently started tp print a page in Netscape while my printer
wasn't correctly installed yet.
Now it starts printing !@#$%^ each time i log in and i can't stop it.
Is there a way to empty the prin-queue or something??
Thanx,
Franc.
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From: Bill Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Another name for Triton?
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:56:09 -0400
Hi. I have a dual pentium-pro Linux box (Intel 450GX chipset, aka
Orion) running 2.2.5. I've been running SCSI disk, so this hasn't
become an issue until now, but I just got a 17.2GB Maxtor DiamondMax
hard drive. Not bad until I had to format it.... Here's what hdparm -t
gives:
Timing buffered disk reads: 32 MB in 23.38 seconds = 1.37 MB/sec
The problem seems to be that the BIOS doesn't recognize the IDE chipset
as anything beyond 'generic.' /proc/pci says:
Bus 0, device 2, function 0:
Non-VGA device: Intel 82375EB (rev 5).
Medium devsel. Master Capable. Latency=248.
That's the IDE controller, as far as I can tell (everything else is
accounted for). Now, the Triton chipset, according to the kernel source
tree, is a 82371xx identifier.
So does this ring any bells for anyone? Can I simply create a new
identifier in the kernel source, call it "PIIX3" and see if the
registers line up so I can get more out of the chipset? Is this in fact
a generic chip, and I should trade up to a 18GB SCSI-UW? Any help would
be appreciated. Maybe there's a patch out there I just haven't found.
--Bill
E.
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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't install RH5.2
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 05:54:03 GMT
In article <KF8P2.29111$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Dominic Leland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hope you can read this message. I had to install something in windows in
> order to read yours.
>
> I don't have any experience with a non-american version of RedHat. But I'll
> take a few guesses.
>
> First, try just hitting enter at the prompt. You may be talking about the
> lilo prompt.Just pressing enter should let you continue with installation.
>
> Next, if that doesn't work, try booting into dos (not windows). Go to your
> CD, go to the dosutils directory, and try running Autoboot.bat if it's
> there.
>
> If that doesn't work, the only other thing I can reccommend is to copy
> everything to your hard drive. There is a problem with that, though. Windows
> (at least the american version) changes the directory from RedHat/RPMS to
> redhat/rpms. Since it's case-sensitive, it's a long process to fix.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Dominic Leland
>
> rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:gb_O2.604$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am a LINUX newbie trying to escape from Bill's clutches but know my way
> > around both PCs and Macs.
> > I have a LINUX RedHat 5.2 (Japanese and English) install problem. I set
> the
> > BIOS to boot from the EIDE CDROM and all goes well until the installation
> > simply stops with a flashing cursor at the very blue (!) Welcome to LINUX
> > screen after the Initializing CDROM message. I can't even get to a screen
> > that allows me to choose the disk on which to install LINUX or run Disc
> > Druid, etc.
> > I also tried a boot from the RH5.2 floppy but exactly the same thing
> > happens. I have spoken extensively with RH support here in Tokyo but they
> > have no idea what is causing the problem. They are supposed to be asking
> RH
> > in the USA.
> > Here's the hardware configuration as it looks under 98. The Japanese
> RH5.2
> > manual says that most of this hardware is supported, although there's a
> > question about the SCSI card and MO.
> > Is there some obvious bit of hardware blocking the install or should I
> start
> > pulling boards and experimenting?
> >
> > Video Card: NVidia RIVA128 AGP
> > Sound Card: CreativeVibra16 Plug and Play
> > HD1: C: drive = Maxtor IDE 4 GB UltraDM IDE Primary Master (home of
> Windows
> > 98J at present)
> > HD2: D: drive = Quantum Fireball SCSI 1.2 GB (supposed to be home for
> > LINUX)
> > MO: E: drive = Fujitsu SCSI M2512A 230 MB
> > CDROM SCSI: F drive: External DR-UO6S (F when switched on)
> > CDROM EIDE: G: drive = Pioneer DR-A24X IDE Secondary Master (F when
> > external SCSI CDROM off)
> > SCSI Card: Initio INIC-940
> > 3Dfx Card: Voodoo 3Dfx
> > Network Adapter: Planet PCI ENW2401
> > Mouse: Standard serial
> > Monitor: Fujitsu
> > Printer: Epson MJ930C$(D*)(J@networked print server
> > RAM: 128 MB
> > Free disk space: 1.2 GB
> > CPU: AMD K6-11 (400 MHz)
> > Motherboard: EPoX EP-58 MVP3C-M Apollo VP3 AG/PCI chipset
> >
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>
To install RedHat with an Initio adapter you must use an installation
package from Initio. Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request a
copy of it. Let them know what version of RedHat and what model of
adapter you have.
Regards
Dan
--
I work for Initio...but computers are my life
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:57:20 -0500
From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Time Problems
change the link /etc/localtime to point to your correct time zone in
/usr/share/zoneinfo
"J. Benjamin Hale" wrote:
> Is there just a variable that I can change?
>
> --
>
> J. Benjamin Hale
> 85 SE 16th Avenue, F203
> Gainesville FL 32601-0504
> 352/335-6532
>
> Thomas Keats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > depends on how you want to go bout doin it??
> >
> > 1. adjust cmos time to correspond with GMT time
> >
> > 2. Run setup (if redhat 5.x) and set the time info in there...
> >
> > Note: there are other ways for other distribs, but all i use is redhat
> atm.
> >
> >
> >
> > J. Benjamin Hale wrote:
> >
> > > I accidentally set Linux to think that my CMOS was set to GMT when it
> really
> > > wasn't. It isn't imperative, but I would like to know how to change
> that.
> > > Thanx.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > J. Benjamin Hale
> > > 85 SE 16th Avenue, F203
> > > Gainesville FL 32601-0504
> > > 352/335-6532
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:30:28 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: XFree86 problem on a Compaq Armada 1750
Jacques-Olivier Haenni wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've tried to install XFree86 on a Compaq Armada 1750, but without
> success. This laptop has a ATI Mach64 LT Rage Pro 2X graphic card, and
> a 1024x768 LCD display. I've tried either the SVGA and the Mach64
> driver. I'm installing RedHat 5.2.
>
> The problem is that some parts of the screen are duplicated, or a large
> white line appears on the screen. I've noticed that if I boot the PC
> with an external monitor connected, the X server works fine (when
> displaying on the CRT and LCD at the same time).
>
> Any idea, solution ?
>
> Or has someone a XF86Config working for the Armada 1750 ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jacques-Olivier
>
> --
> Jacques-Olivier Haenni http://diwww.epfl.ch/~johaenni/
>
> Logic Systems Laboratory | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL) | Tel: (+41 21) 693 66 30
> 1015 Lausanne - Switzerland | Fax: (+41 21) 693 37 05
Oh boy, I wish you all would read through the lately posted articles
before posting questions...
Try the hints at
http://www.fachschaften.uni-bielefeld.de/physik/leute/marc/X/
Marc Mutz
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From: "James Kosin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ping utility
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:18:15 -0400
Dear David Claney,
Sounds like you may have Linux setup as a FIREWALL system?
Try pinging the actual IP address and not a name that needs to go through a
DNS server. ie: ping 10.1.1.56 instead of ping name.mydomain.com
Good Luck,
James Kosin
David Claney <dclaney@qa(Spamfree)display.com> wrote in message
news:7f03hn$arb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> simple question? linix machine can ping all the machines on network with
> great success but i can not ping it from win95 machine?
>
> this hurdle to get over then onto Samba!!!
> This stuff gets more facinating by the minuet. ;-)
>
> All responses greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
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From: "Nicolas JOYARD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ! Zip AND // port
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:46:09 +0200
>Both modules loaded at the same time and using them at the same time????
I don't need them to be used at the same time, I just want not to have to
unload one when using the second...
Thank you !
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