Linux-Hardware Digest #58, Volume #10 Sun, 18 Apr 99 19:13:39 EDT
Contents:
Re: AMD K6 Slackwera Installation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
LILO refuses, stops after 'LI' (Keith Rhodes)
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) ("Charles R.
Lyttle")
Linux-supported PCI soundcard that accepts a MIDI daughtercard (Brian Hall)
Re: Diamond 8 Mb Permedia AGP & RH5.2 (Brooks Hagenow)
Sound Cards & Kernel - Help needed (Rick Seymour)
Re: RFC - DSL LinModem (Arran)
Re: SCSI card recommendation (Eric Potter)
Re: CMI8330 sound card problem on Linux :-( (Erwin van Akkeren)
Re: Where can i get i740 AGP chipset driver???? ("dpc")
linux and quadra 950 (William Reid)
Fresh approach (Neil Steadman)
ISDN adapters -- recommendations? ("Jeff Layton")
Fax serial port locked by X ("Guus Z." <"(remove this but dont send me)
Re: XFree86 problem on a Compaq Armada 1750 (wim delvaux)
Re: USB and LINUX ("gm")
AccelGraphics Permedia2 AGP 8MB SGRAM Video Card ("Tim McDonough")
HDB boot config (Neil Steadman)
x on ati rage fury (Eric Melville)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AMD K6 Slackwera Installation
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:05:01 GMT
Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>Sounds like a problem with ram: can you swap out the computer's ram or take it and
:have it
:>tested? Are there any device conflicts with current settings? G'luck, /ts
:>
:> tenox @ home dat com
:> /ts
: Thanks, Tenox, but I do not think it can be memory. My reson is that
: the computer is working very heavily with Windows 95. I work mostly in
: graphics, with five or six programs working simultaneously. If there
: was a memory chip that is bad, it will show.
: I do not think that there is memory that works for Windows and not for
: Linux.
: I think to remember some problem with the K6 but I cannot put my hand
: on it.
: Thanks any way
I had similar problems with a K6. Things ran fine with windows, but
linux invariably died after a while.
I never did quite track down the problem. But it seems to be connected
with cache memory and the mother board. There have been some reports
regarding cooling, and you might want to open up the case and point a
fan at your K6.
I never really solved the problem. The K6 would run with no problem
with internal cache disabled. But also very slowly. I ended up swapping
it for a Intel MMX which worked perfectly.
Given that it would not begin to blow up for some time after the machine
was turned on, I suspect it was a cooling problem.
On the other hand, I have a K6-2 which runs with no problem whatsoever.
Best regards,
Stephen Jenuth
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
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From: Keith Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: "comp.os,linux.setup",comp.os.linux.setup,"comp.os,linux.hardware"
Subject: LILO refuses, stops after 'LI'
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:11:21 +0200
I have just installed RedHat 5.2 on my second system
(a home-grown 80486/8MbyteRam/2.5GbyteDrive),
that has previously run RedHat 4.2 and 5.1 without too many problems.
Yesterday I installed three times:
1. and 2. via FTP from my main system, whose CDROM drive is much faster,
over ethernet
3. from the system's own CDROM drive.
In all three cases, the installation goes according to plan.
But when I reboot I get LI and, er, that's all.
I can reboot from the boot floppy I made during the installation,
and the system seems to run normally.
LILO on the hard drive, however, hangs after printing the two first
letters.....
Seltsam nicht wahr?
Now, I've checked /var/log/messages, and the hard drive geometry looks
correct
(in any case, I don't think LILO gets as far as reading any boot
parameters),
and I don't know where else to look.
Can anybody shed some light on this?
Keith.
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From: "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:00:49 GMT
Didier H. Besset wrote:
>
> Osvaldo Pinali Doederlein wrote in message <7f4a6d$sjl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Well, Java supports Unicode there... I hope people will not be stuffing
> lots
> >of greek or chinese symbols in the code to make it more maintainable.
>
> Well, it depends. I certainly would welcome the possibility of writing a
> real greek letter when I need one. This sure helps when working on maths
> stuff.
>
> Going further, having a super/sub-script notation like in differential
> geometry (variant and covariant indices e.g.) would be MUCH more readable
> than myVector[i].
>
> One could even implement implied summation (same variant and covariant
> index) but that may be a little far fetched...
>
> As for Chinese characters, I might agree with you...
>
> Didier
Conceptually, what is the difference between an icon and a Chinese
character?
The only difference I have noticed so far is that Chinese characters
have an entomology (sp?) and icons do not. If an OS is going to be as
heavly dependent on icons as win98 or nt, why not just name the file
with the Chinese character and display that as the icon? Then the user
could apply all sorts of utilities to maintaining his/her desktop. I
have one friend who has over 400 icons on his desktop. But there are
only about 50 or 60 different icons. He has to remember which icon is
associated with a specific file and then read the name of the file under
each icon. That defeats the main reason for having icons. Searching a
directory of links from a command line is faster.
Now my ability to read Chinese characters is almost not existant, but
that isn't true of about 2 billion other people. If they can learn to
read Roman characters, why shouldn't we be able to learn enough Han
characters to navigate a desktop?
--
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
Thank you Melissa!
Not Powered by ActiveX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Hall)
Subject: Linux-supported PCI soundcard that accepts a MIDI daughtercard
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:02:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a Yamaha DX50 Waveforce MIDI daughtercard, currently happily
installed on a SB-16 SCSI ISA. Is there a PCI soundcard supported by Linux
that this daughtercard will fit on? All the ones I've seen so far that had
the wavetable connector seem to be too small. I'd much rather use the
daughtercard instead of timidity software synthesis.
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From: Brooks Hagenow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diamond 8 Mb Permedia AGP & RH5.2
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:02:23 -0500
I did not post the original message but ran into a problem using the
Diamond FireGL 1000 Pro with the Permedia 2 chipset. I would either get
a blank screen or end up with a checkerboard pattern and have to reset
the system after trying to run Xwindows.
Thank you for your tip.
Brooks Hagenow
Windows wizard trying to learn Linux
"M.C. van den Bovenkamp" wrote:
> Onder Kivanc wrote:
>
> > video cards doesn't include this one. I choose unlisted card but
> > then I don't know which chipset to choose. I'll appreciate
> > any help. Thanks
>
> For the Permedia2 chip, upgrade to the latest XFree (3.3.3.1) and try
> the 'XF86_3DLabs' server.
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Marco van den Bovenkamp.
>
> CIO EMEA Network Design Engineer,
>
> Lucent Technologies Nederland.
> Room: HVS BZK 32
> Tel.: (+31-35-687)2724
> Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Rick Seymour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Cards & Kernel - Help needed
Date: 18 Apr 1999 20:32:15 GMT
Hello
I am completely new to Linux and am trying to get used to it all with next
to no documentation. I was wondering where i can find information regarding
the installation of my sound card (an SB AWE 64 Value). Does this involve
me having to re-build my kernel from scratch using `make config`? I have
seen the basic HOWTO, but to someone who knows jack about the kernel and
about linux in general its a bit much to take in. How come they can't write
a howto, nicely step-by-step
I've got RedHat5.2 distribution from a cover-disk somewhere with kernel 2
(something :))
Could someone send me an e-mail with a few pointers
Many thanks
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arran)
Subject: Re: RFC - DSL LinModem
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:56:47 GMT
Umm, here's a little bit of info about DSL that might help.
First it's a digital line so there isn't really a need for a modem (no
need to modulate/demodulate in a purely digital environment). The DSL
line usually requires a proprietary hardware splitter to peel it off
of the POTS line. The splitter then spits out a signal in ethernet
format so that any box with an ethernet NIC can connect to it.
As for connecting two Linux boxes via DSL, the first challenge will be
to get your telco to run a DSL line between two private addresses.
They probably won't, because they like to run them from your
house/office to an isp (preferably one that they own) that supports
DSL. I'm not even sure that it's possible to run the line between two
private addresses because it requires one end to have a central office
type switch to drive the downstream line. If you think of it like 56K
modem technology you get the idea. It's asymmetric connection
requiring special hardware at the isp level.
Once you had the DSL line in place I imagine you could put a linux box
at either end with a NIC and run TCP/IP.
As for bandwidth I've heard of 7Mbps downstream and 1Mbps upstream.
Again this is with a connection to an isp that has the appropriate
switching hardware.
Good luck,
Arran
On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:24:45 -0800, Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrotg:
>Hi, folks, I want to build some modems to connect pairs of Linux
>on DSL lines. What am i up against? These modems would not talk
>to anything else, so i don't need V.anything compatible. I am
>thinking about minimum hardwares (in the spirit of WinModem).
>A linux driver will handle the protocols and compressions.
>Can i transmit 1 MB/s reliably on DSL lines, with a FIR filter
>at the receiving end. Where can i get more technical information
>on DSL? For example, what loading/impedance can i expect at the
>phone company switching stations? The Finite Impulse Response (FIR)
>filter will be implemented with run-time configurated gate array.
>What other hardware would you add to this. Is anyone doing a
>similiar project?
>
> +-------+ +-------+
> TX -> | D/A | -> | ISO | -> DSL
> +-------+ +-------+
>
> +-------+ +-------+ +-------+
> RX <- | FIR | <- | A/D | <- | ISO | <- DSL
> +-------+ +-------+ +-------+
>
>PS: Just like WinModem, this is a fool's Modem,
>but i won't overpaid myself for it.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Potter)
Subject: Re: SCSI card recommendation
Date: 18 Apr 1999 16:12:25 GMT
Randy Edwards enlightened this group thus:
> I've finally decided to break down and put a SCSI card into my system.
> What I was wondering was what folks would recommend for a good SCSI card with
> solid Linux drivers.
>
> I'd like to get a decent card but don't want to spend ridiculous amounts of
> money. PCI's a must, and U2 would be nice to have since I want to keep this
> card for a good while.
>
> Right now I'm thinking of the Adaptec 2930U2W but since I'm a SCSI newbie I
> was wondering what others would recommend for a good <$300 SCSI card --
> suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>
I'd recommend that you look into a Diamond Fireport 20 (narrow) or
Fireport 40 (wide). I got the Fireport 20 for about $70 and I think that
the Fireport 40 goes for less than $150. These are good pci SCSI cards which
use the well proven NCR53C8XX driver.
--
* ^ \ ___@
*^ / \ \ | \
/ \/ \ \__| \
/ / ^ \ \
/ \ \ Eric Potter
/ ^ ^ \ \
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erwin van Akkeren)
Subject: Re: CMI8330 sound card problem on Linux :-(
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:38:06 GMT
On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:37:49 +0200, Jiri Eger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm using RedHat Linux 5.2 (Apollo), Kernel 2.0.36 on an i586.
>And I've the sound card CMI8330 but this don't work on my linux :-(
>Can someone send me modified driver for this card or tell me how can I set
>linux for this sound card ?
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/CMI8330_0.05.txt
Regards,
Erwin van Akkeren
--
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From: "dpc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where can i get i740 AGP chipset driver????
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:21:11 -0400
ftp.precisioninsight.com/pub/precisio/XFCom
It's in that directory. You may or may not have some troubles setting this
up. I'm running SuSE 6.0 with the same chipset and I could only get it set
up using XF86Setup (which the README's said I shouldn't use) which RedHat
does not have. You can try xf86Config or whatever it is that RedHat uses -
there's an updated config utility in that directory as well. Good luck and
let me know how you fare!
dpc
Remove _NOSPAM_ to e-mail directly to me. My apologies for the
inconvenience.
Tracy Leung Wing Yee wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am using Rehat5.2, i am looking for a driver for 8 meg AGP i740
>chipset video card. Where can i get it???
>
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From: William Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: linux and quadra 950
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:45:42 GMT
Can anyone tell me if there is a version that supports this particular
model. I cannot find one. I also have a Daystar power pro 601-100mhz
upgrade card installed, if there's linux support for that as well...
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Steadman)
Subject: Fresh approach
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:58:40 +0059
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Morning all!
Just a general note on using Linux:
Under Win95 and the like, getting things to work consisted of a lot of
"Well it says this, but I'm going to say cancel, ignore it and re-install
from the CD."
I've only be using Linux a few months, but I'm beginning to shift my
attitude to "Linux says this. It ain't b***s******* me either!"
My point being that some of the problems in this newsgroup are produced by
using a MicroSoft philosophy on a Linux OS.
The other problems are probably down to trying to find the right
documentation under Linux. Does anyone want to start the LLDP (Locating Linux
Documentation Project)?
For instance the best advice I found on configuring Linux for PPP mail came
from running exmh, selecting HELP, and reading the PPP section. NOT any of
the included HOWTO's.
Neil
--
A computer needs Windows like Bill needs more cash.
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From: "Jeff Layton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ISDN adapters -- recommendations?
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:49:08 -0600
I'm looking into replacing my Ascend ISDN router w/ a Linux/ISDN card
solution. I like the Ascend, but the NAT configuration is really limited.
The only thing is that I don't want to go to any adapter that means I take a
speed hit. I know 16550 serial ports can get a max of 112k, and I don't want
to lose the other 16k :-)
So here are my requirements for an adapter:
1) Works with Linux -- pref. the 2.2 kernel, but I can use 2.0 if 2.2 driver
support is not there yet.
2) Works in the US on an ESS/NI-1 switch type. I also prefer a card with an
integrated NT-1.
3) Non-serial connection, so I can utilize the full 128k. The machine in
question is a Pentium 120, and has both ISA and PCI slots. It also has a
parallel port that I suppose could be used.
Does anyone out there have a success story, and can recommend a particular
solution?
Any help or info would be appreciated!
-- Jeff (please reply to the group)
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From: "Guus Z." <"(remove this but dont send me
Subject: Fax serial port locked by X
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:46:43 +0200
I have a problem accessing my internal fax modem from within X.
Running efax gives me the following error message:
efax: 44:06 Warning: /dev/fax locked or busy. waiting.
efax runs ok outside of X, so the h/w is ok.
The configuration is Debian 2.0/2.2.3 on an i386. The fax
modem card looks like a cheap clone, CommPlus or something.
It sits on /dev/ttyS3, irq=3, aka /dev/fax
Anybody?
Thanks,
Guus.
--
When you reply to me personally please remove
the 'no spam' bit from my address.
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From: wim delvaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: XFree86 problem on a Compaq Armada 1750
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:52:37 +0200
Marc Mutz wrote:
> Jacques-Olivier Haenni wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've tried to install XFree86 on a Compaq Armada 1750, but without
> > success. This laptop has a ATI Mach64 LT Rage Pro 2X graphic card, and
> > a 1024x768 LCD display. I've tried either the SVGA and the Mach64
> > driver. I'm installing RedHat 5.2.
> >
> > The problem is that some parts of the screen are duplicated, or a large
> > white line appears on the screen. I've noticed that if I boot the PC
> > with an external monitor connected, the X server works fine (when
> > displaying on the CRT and LCD at the same time).
> >
> > Any idea, solution ?
> >
> > Or has someone a XF86Config working for the Armada 1750 ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Jacques-Olivier
> >
> > --
> > Jacques-Olivier Haenni http://diwww.epfl.ch/~johaenni/
> >
> > Logic Systems Laboratory | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL) | Tel: (+41 21) 693 66 30
> > 1015 Lausanne - Switzerland | Fax: (+41 21) 693 37 05
>
> Oh boy, I wish you all would read through the lately posted articles
> before posting questions...
> Try the hints at
> http://www.fachschaften.uni-bielefeld.de/physik/leute/marc/X/
>
> Marc Mutz
Well marc, the problem is
1. Which newsgroup contains the propper info. I have the same problem
(Although my screen has a black
border neer the right hand side of the screen) and I have been monitoring the
dev.laptop newgroup without finding solutios
2. You need to know were the old messages are stored (I have just discovered
this group and it contains only 1 reference to the
compaq)
CU
Wim Delvaux
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From: "gm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] REMOVE NOSPAM to reply>
Subject: Re: USB and LINUX
Reply-To: "gm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] remove NO_SPAM to reply>
Date: 18 Apr 1999 13:08:52 -0600
> The motherboard docco says that the pin header contains two USB
connections
> within it but no adapter came with the motherboard and no one that
I have
> asked has any adapter that would be suitable. What I need is
something that
> will fill an empty slot on the edge of the PC box with a pair of
USB
> connectors and connect internally to the pin header on the
motherboard.
USB motherboard adapters for the AT or baby AT style mb are usually
sold
as an add-on option. Motherboard connections can be single or dual
with
8, 9 or 10 pins. A company that sells these motherboards may also
sell the
optional kit. Other places to shop are retailers that specialize in
connectors.
One on-line source is www.dalco.com which has a graphic of one.
regards,
gm
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From: "Tim McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AccelGraphics Permedia2 AGP 8MB SGRAM Video Card
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:15:26 -0500
Is a driver available for this card? I'd like to use XFree86 but don't know
which driver to use.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Steadman)
Subject: HDB boot config
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:16:24 +0059
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
I'm currently gnashing my teeth trying to get my second IDE drive (of 4) to
boot MSDOS. Needed purely to get my parallel port scanner working. The
thought of using Win3.1 as a scanner driver kind of appeals actually.
Any way, I've fdisked, formatted and 'sys'ed it using entirely MSDOS tools
from a floppy. It's setup as one primary partition.
Then I tell linux.conf -
other = /dev/hdb, or other = /dev/hdb1, but I get a missing OS message,
or told to insert a valid boot disk.
(Lilo is installed on hda's MBR)
The HOWTO's only appear to detail booting off a partition on hda.
Anyone got this working?
(EMail would be much appreciated).
Neil.
--
A computer needs Windows like Bill needs more cash.
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From: Eric Melville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: x on ati rage fury
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:29:46 GMT
i am putting together a computer with an ati rage fury. you know, the
one with 32mb on board. however, the "documentation" seems a bit lacking
in the actual specifics of the board, and there is no card definition in
the xfree86 card database. superprobe gave me something like "generic
vga" with 4mb of memory, which isn't quite what i was looking for.
anyone out there running x on this graphics card?
-E
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