Linux-Hardware Digest #65, Volume #10 Mon, 19 Apr 99 13:14:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: ES 1371 on Intel 440BX motherboard (Harry McGregor)
Re: Programmers are gods ("Martin Ozolins")
Re: any1 from Canada will sell or burn linux cheaply ? (Thomas Keats)
Re: Help please ! Can't configure ethernet card for with TRINUX. (Jacob Mull)
Re: Deskjet Pronters and Creative Banshee Support (Phil DeBecker)
Re: 3dfx VooDoo3 (Phil DeBecker)
Re: 3dfx VooDoo3 (Phil DeBecker)
Re: Celreon on dual Pentium mother boards (Phil DeBecker)
Any news on the SBLIVe? ("Panic")
Re: Programmers are gods ("Michael W. Ryder")
Re: Dual processors (Christophe KUMSTA)
Re: linux and quadra 950 (David Huff)
Re: Checking Dual Processor Loads? ("TURBO1010")
Q: How to backup 18GB web server? (Dan Poynor)
Re: Programmers are gods (Chris Costello)
Re: Sound Cards & Kernel - Help needed ("dpc")
Re: Sound Card Problems (eisme@theoldsameplace)
Re: Is Windows for idiots? (Mike Bartman)
Re: LILO refuses, stops after 'LI' ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Turtle Beach Fiji setup ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harry McGregor)
Subject: Re: ES 1371 on Intel 440BX motherboard
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:04:17 GMT
Not really, It's like an AGP-lite implimentation. Most sound cards
(good ones) had 1MB of memory (one form or another, usualy eprom) to
hold the midi set, Ensoniq decided to use system ram. The PCI bus
provided enough bandwidth that doing this would be light years away
from effecting PCI/sound performance. Also it gives you the ability
to upgrade and enlarge the patch set. I even have an 8MB patch set,
if anyone wants it. Ensoniq had it up for a few weeks, but the
bandwidth useage of people DLing was killing them, so they had to take
it off.
Harry
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From: "Martin Ozolins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:54:40 -0700
Nostril Of Happiness wrote in message
<8JxS2.2379$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>Try a cross platform port of engineer fortran (different from IT fortran)
>>every index variable is 'i' the number of times 'i' is repeated is the
>>depth in imbeded if's or loops. ie:
>>if (i)
>> if(ii)
>> endif
>>ednif
>
>
>That looks like my code. Stop sharing my secrets in public.... Who are
you??
>Yes, comments are for wimps. They should never be used.....
>
Do you also use a for every variable when you program for Apples?
>
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From: Thomas Keats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: any1 from Canada will sell or burn linux cheaply ?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 05:09:43 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MOST printed matter that comes wiht a cd are about 6-9 month s out of date. For
example, Chapters still carries books wiht Red Hat 4.2 and 5.0 and even slack 3.1,
so he would have to be careful on th eversion he is gettin.
And if i had a burner i would, but i cant cause i dont..
Jacob Mull wrote:
> >
>
> Have you looked at some Linux books that come with a CD?
>
> > any1 from canada can sell linux cd's or burn then very cheaply ?
> > i want to change my linux OS, but all dists are located in US, and i hate to
> > pay shipping and hand.
> > I know it's cheap from cheapbytes.com or linuxmall or lsl.com, but u know,
> > if some1 is cool, then all i have to do is send him a blank cd and a floppy,
> > and he's burn it for free or small fee :)
> > if any1 here has any books etc.. mail me
> > UnKnOwNn
>
> --
> In an insane society, a sane man must appear insane -- Star Trek
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From: Jacob Mull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help please ! Can't configure ethernet card for with TRINUX.
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:21:02 -0400
This is a linux newsgroup. What is Trinux?
Paul Bashkatov wrote:
> I have IntelExpress pro 10 ISA card (S82595FX chip) and I can't configure it
> for use with TRINUX. I download eepro.o from trinux.org and add following
> string into the modules file :
> eepro
> but TRINUX say .....give io
> I know io=0x300 but how I can tell it to TRINUX ?
>
> Please HELP.
> Thanks.
--
In an insane society, a sane man must appear insane -- Star Trek
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:55:03 -0400
From: Phil DeBecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deskjet Pronters and Creative Banshee Support
Kristian Guillaumier wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to install and configure an HP DeskJet 710c Printer and
> a Creative 3D Blaster Banshee Video Card (In XFree86).
>
It would be helpful if you mentioned what distribution of linux you're
using. If you're using Red Hat, setting up the printer is trivial
using the control-panel X application. Of course, you have to get X up
and running first. In the interest of that, there is an X server for
the Voodoo Banshee and Voodoo3 at http://glide.xxedgexx.com
Phil DeBecker
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:58:17 -0400
From: Phil DeBecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3dfx VooDoo3
G de Keating-Hart wrote:
>
> Does any program actually use the 3Dfx card (even just voodoo2) in linux?
>
Yes. A linux port of Glide is available for linux; currently it works
with the Voodoo1, Voodoo2, and Voodoo Rush. Voodoo3 and Banshee support
is coming. Quake and Quake II use it; if you compile Mesa with Glide as
a back-end then any OpenGL app can use it.
There's also an X server for the Voodoo3 and Banshee that works very
well.
Phil DeBecker
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:12:34 -0400
From: Phil DeBecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3dfx VooDoo3
sxltrex wrote:
>
> I'm downloading the Rush X server right now. Thanks for that bit of advice?
> How did you set up your Xconfigurator after you had the new server installed?
> I'm going from a Stealth 3D 2000.
>
You don't want the rush X server; you want the Banshee one
(XFree86_3DFX-SVGA-3.3.3-2.i386.glibc.rpm). You'll also want the
XFree86_3DFX-rushlib-3.3.3-2.i386.glibc.rpm which has libraries the X
server needs.
I didn't use Xconfigurator at all; I ran xf86config and set up the
server that way.
Phil
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:25:01 -0400
From: Phil DeBecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Celreon on dual Pentium mother boards
chris wrote:
>
> Is it possible to use 2 celeron cpu's on dual pentium II board
>
> If not what would be a cheap way of making a SMP machine?
It's _possible_ to use 2 celeron's on a dual pII board, but it requires
a hardware modification to the Celerons' circuit board. There was an
article about this on Slashdot not too long ago; it's not a particularly
hairy modification but unless you're comfortable with a soldering iron
you probably want to stay away from this.
Personally, I'd go with a dual-PII board and a couple of PII/350's.
You'll get excellent performance as PII/350's are still 100mhz FSB
chips, and on the other hand they're pretty cheap now that 450 and
500mhz PIIIs are available.
Phil
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From: "Panic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Any news on the SBLIVe?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:33:45 -0400
I am waiting and waiting. I was wondering if anyone know of some real
progress on the Linux drivers for the SoundBlaster Live?
Bri
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From: "Michael W. Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:34:27 GMT
Mike Bartman wrote:
>
> On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:38:30 +0100, "M. le Rutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Every programmer should first have to do a half year of helpdesk before
> >being allowed to do any coding and the first three months after a
> >program is released. This will give to programmer the idea what *users*
> >need and that in the end the user is central.
>
> The following 6 months should be spent doing upgrades and mods to
> existing code. A few months of trying to decipher the intentions of
> some long-departed prior programmer who thought that single character
> variable names were a good idea and that comments were for beginners,
> and the new programmer *might* just be ready to create new code.
> Maybe.
>
> -- Mike "either that or a rubber room...." Bartman --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> To reply via e-mail, remove the 'foolie.' from the address.
> I'm getting sick of all the spam...
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
I also think that the users and managers that request a new program
should try programming what they request for a few months:) I have been
programming for over twenty years and very rarely have I been given a
request that is what the user really wanted or that is feasible. After
rewriting a program a half dozen times to give the user what they really
wanted in the first place any program is going to look much messier and
be much harder to read. I have some programs that I have modified
literally hundreds of times since they were written to add new features
or change the way existing ones work. I don't have time to rewrite the
code each time I change a few lines as there are too many other changes
to be made.
While I try to make my code readable, I realize that after a while I am
the only one able to read the code and any comments easily. In an ideal
world all code would be easy to read and maintain, but managers don't
live in an ideal world for programmers:)
Michael W. Ryder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Christophe KUMSTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual processors
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:39:52 +0000
Matthew Wilby wrote:
>
> If i wanted to dedicate a dual processor system to SuSE linux, would it
> support it and would there be much in the way of improvement when compared
> to a single CPU board?
>
> Cheers
The dual processor ( SMP ) does not depend on the distrib but on the
kernel.
Since kernel 2.2.0 , SMP is fully supported ( I use Kernel 2.2.0 on a
Dual-PIII
and it works fine.)
Either your Suse linux has kernel >2.2.0 inside and no pb , or you
update your
kernel.
For the improvement , it's really usefull on heavy-load machine.
-- KUMSTA Christophe
-- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-- real-time system developper
-- RT-Linux (Use the source luke)
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From: David Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux and quadra 950
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:31:42 -0500
William Reid wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me if there is a version that supports
> this particular model. I cannot find one. I also have a
> Daystar power pro 601-100mhz upgrade card installed, if
> there's linux support for that as well...
The Quadras are NuBus machines, yes ? If so, I believe that your only
option is MkLinux. Check out:
http://www.mklinux.apple.com/
Regards,
--
_
__| |_ David P. Huff | "Linux: Because reboots
\_ _} [EMAIL PROTECTED] | are for upgrades."
\_( Texas Instruments, Inc. |
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From: "TURBO1010" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Checking Dual Processor Loads?
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:30:06 -0700
Try cat /proc/cpuinfo
You can also check using xosview, it has support for both processors, and
let's you see the load of each processor.
Dan Poynor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have two Xeon 400Mhz processors in my Linux RH5.2 server and would like
> to know they are both installed and working properly without shutting down
> and opening the box.
>
> When I use processor load monitor utilities, such as with DocIt or KDE, I
> just see one reading which I'm assuming is a combination of both
> processors. Is there some way to gauge each processor or at least make
sure
> they're both functioning properly?
>
> It also looks like my Linux configuration is for a i686 system/kernel.
> Since I'm learning and didn't actually install the system myself, but
> rather hired someone, I would like to confirm this is appropriate for the
> dual Xeon processors.
>
> Thanks,
> DAN
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Poynor)
Subject: Q: How to backup 18GB web server?
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:06:24 -0700
I'm researching how to backup my web server which has two 9 GB drives online.
Checking through the ftape HOWTO and doing some price comparisons, I notice
most tape drives don't seem to backup more than 8 or 10 GB of compressed
data.
Anyone have another suggestion? The Onstream drives look promising but are
not yet supported.
Also, for software I'm thinking the BRU application for RH5.2 Linux and
automating it for bi-monthly backups possibly as a cron job.
Thanks,
DAN
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:59:03 GMT
In article <7ff9q9$l7p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Donal K. Fellows wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just as an aside, these are some things you DON'T want to see in some
> > code .... ;-) (And I have personally encountered some ...)
> [...]
> > Anyway, I am sure that there are more.
>
> My favourites are:
>
> #ifdef FIX_[name omitted to protect the innocent]_BROKENNESS
>
> /* Scary! And undocumented too... */
I love this:
======
>From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (15Feb98) [foldoc]:
FIXME
A standard tag often put in comments near a piece of code that
needs work. The point of doing so is that a {grep} or a
similar pattern-matching tool can find all such places
quickly. This is common in {GNU} code. Compare {XXX}.
======
> Donal.
--
Chris Costello
A low level language is one whose programs require attention to the irrelevant.
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From: "dpc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Cards & Kernel - Help needed
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:25:32 -0400
oops - I meant to say /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound
My apologies - that last one probably didn't help. ;o)
dpc
dpc wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hey there! I found that my SB AWE 64 troubles ended when I did an ls of
the
>/usr/src/linux/Documentation directory. There are some very good
>instructions in there. The only other thing I had to do that wasn't in
>there was type modprobe sound after it was all done :) Good luck!
>
>dpc
>
>
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From: eisme@theoldsameplace
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Sound Card Problems
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:25:19 GMT
On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:20:41 -0500, "Jonathan Wiens"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am having trouble setting up my sound card to run under Linux. I have
>a Sound Blaster AWE 64 PnP and I am running Red Hat 5.1 with Kernel version
>2.0.35
> When I attempt to run sndconfig, everything works fine until I get to
>the testing stage. Here it states that there is an error running modprobe.
>I have also noticed that when booting, the messages "Can not find module:
>sound" and "Can not find module: midi" appear.
> I have reviewed the file /etc/isapnp.conf and everything seams to be
>alright. It appears that the card is recognized.
> Would anybody be able to help me get my sound card working?
>
>Jonathan Wiens
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
I would get a copy of "Linux unleashed" for redhat from the local
bookstore.
It comes with the 2.0.36 kernel (and the patches for earlier versions)
The 5.2 linux supports awe 32/64 sound. I spent $32 US for the book at
bookstar. The book will help a lot. Even if you are a guru, it will
give you insight into things you never thought about.
so i've heard
__
eisme
sed 's/stuff/shite/g' .rantrc >>rant 2>/dev/null &
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Bartman)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Is Windows for idiots?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:14:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 31 Mar 1999 16:42:07 PST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Baccus) wrote:
>In article <26yM2.13225$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Some of us started on PDP-8s with 16K of memory. Of course, we could only
>>timeshare 20 users.
>
>Surely you mean PDP-8's, not PDP-8s.
I believe he is correct. There is neither a possessive, nor a
contraction involved. It's a plural, so no apostrophe.
I once designed a multitasking OS for my Atari-800, 56K RAM and about
100K of disk space. Not intended for multiple users, but for
multi-threaded video games...
>For, I started on a PDP-8s, with 4K, and believe me, you didn't
>share that little box with no-one :)
My first program was on an IBM mini (I forget the model number). It
was in Fortran and calculated the volume and mass of a VW flywheel,
given a set of coordinates for triangles describing the cross-section
of half of one. I needed 12 triangles, but figured I'd make the
program more genericaly useful by declaring the X, Y and Z arrays a
bit larger, and set them at 100 each. I got an "out of memory" error!
Oh, and there was NO disk space on that machine. It loaded from
cards, and output to a lineprinter...
>(the "s" stands for serial, i.e. bit-by-bit adds and the like,
> roughly 22 times slower than a PDP-8 :( )
They didn't capitalize the "S" to keep it from being ambiguous?
That's not like DEC's engineering folks to do something like that...
-- Mike "though their marketting hacks might be responsible!" Bartman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LILO refuses, stops after 'LI'
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 05:57:48 GMT
Keith Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have just installed RedHat 5.2 on my second system
> (a home-grown 80486/8MbyteRam/2.5GbyteDrive),
> that has previously run RedHat 4.2 and 5.1 without too many problems.
> But when I reboot I get LI and, er, that's all.
> I can reboot from the boot floppy I made during the installation,
> and the system seems to run normally.
Try adding a line a line containing "linear", without the quotes, to
the global section (near the front) of the /etc/lilo.conf file. If
the line is already there, remove it. Run /sbin/lilo to create a new
boot loader and try booting again.
--
Steve Limkemann :: A microsecond here and a microsecond there, and
Westland, Michigan :: before you know it, you're talking real-time.
USA, North America ::
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Turtle Beach Fiji setup
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:52:59 GMT
I'm running the 2.2.6 kernel, on a PII@350 MHz, with 128 MB SDRAM.
I'm trying to put the Turtle Beach Fiji Card to work, I
followed the instructions on the modular sound driver docs
and on the README file at the top of the shar Multisound.
After loading the modules with:
modprobe soundcore
insmod msnd
insmod msnd_pinnacle cfg=0x260 io=0x290 irq=10 mem=0xd0000
The kernel log message is:
msnd_pinnacle: Turtle Beach MultiSound (Pinnacle/Fiji) Linux Driver Version
0.8.3.1, Copyright (C) 1998 Andrew Veliath
msnd_pinnacle: Non-PnP mode: configuring at port 0x260
msnd_pinnacle: 131072 byte audio FIFOs (x2)
msnd_pinnacle: Fiji revision C, Xilinx version 1.4, I/O 0x290-0x297, IRQ 10,
memory mapped to 0xc00d0000-0xc00d7fff
msnd_pinnacle: DSP reset
msnd_pinnacle: DSP firmware uploaded
There is no /proc/sound. The cat /dev/sndtat is not supported.
>From what I can make of the docs, there is only support for /dev/dsp,
not for /dev/audio. Now with the lastest version of the driver
there is also midi support.
Trying:
cat endoftheworld > /dev/dsp
it hangs and when interrupted gives the following kernel log
message:
msnd_pinnacle: Starting write for c50734a0
msnd: Enabling IRQ
msnd: Disabling IRQ
msnd_pinnacle: Stopping write for c50734a0
No sound is produced whatsoever.
I would appreciate if someone could give me a few pointers on
what is really happening, and suggest a possible solution.
Thank you,
Antonio Almeida
"Do not complain of the mean and the petty, for regardless of what you
have been told the mean and the petty are everywhere in control." - Goethe
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