Linux-Hardware Digest #83, Volume #10            Wed, 21 Apr 99 21:13:40 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Kernel (David Ripton)
  Re: Dual Celeron Problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Panasonic Eggcam (Tom Herman)
  Re: Pbl with ATI RAGE PRO TURBO 8Mo (Vincent)
  Lilo used to stop after LI, now it works! (Keith Rhodes)
  Re: HW-accelerated OpenGL for LINUX ("Lothos_")
  Re: HDD Spindown - For a Year! (Herb Stein)
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (westprog)
  Re: Celreon on dual Pentium mother boards (BL)
  Need local system builder who will build EXACTLY to-spec (SF Bay Area) (BL)
  Burning coasters w/ Phi;ips CDD 2000 ("Scott M. Cooley")
  Re: ASUS P5AB (Rod Roark)
  Re: Using IDE Tape drives ("Stephen Miller")
  Ensoniq PCI audio (Gary Brant)
  Re: 2940U2W on Linux problems.. can i just use it as UW...? ("Richard Fleming")
  Re: logitech mouse problems... (Moritz Moeller-Herrmann)
  Re: RealTek RTL 8029 PCI Ethernet Driver (Travis F Shugarts)
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Steffen Kluge)
  Q: ABIT vs ASUS vs GIGABYTE for linux ("Val Jogai")
  Newbie Questions ("news.freeserve.net")
  Re: Programmers are gods (John Burton)
  Re: OnStream SC30 and Linux (Ezra Herman)
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) ("Osvaldo 
Pinali Doederlein")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Ripton)
Subject: Re: Kernel
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:14:33 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Leonzo E. Miller III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How can U tell if you are running in parallel mode after compiling the
>Kernel for it and rebooting?

If you mean SMP, cat /proc/cpuinfo.  Then time a kernel recompile
and make sure it's faster than it was before.

-- 
David Ripton    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
spamgard(tm): To email me, put "geek" in your Subject line.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dual Celeron Problems
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:08:02 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: On a completely unrelated note, I have a Logitech ps/2 mouse that
: works fine under windows, but has bizarre problems (it generates
: random cursor movements) when used with both FreeBSD and Linux
: machines.  I worked with the FreeBSD ps/2 device driver maintainer and
: we were both clueless as to what was going on with it.

I used to have a mouse which decided to wander west at random intervals.

Eventually, I installed a different mouse and that seemed to clear things
up.

Best regards,

Stephen Jenuth
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

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From: Tom Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Panasonic Eggcam
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:14:18 GMT

Yes - plug it into a frame grabber card, such as a Hauppauge
WinTV card (not to be confused with a WinModem card - completely
different 'animals').  Confugure your kernel with the bttv driver.

HTH

Tom
--

NoMorals wrote:
> 
> Does anybody have some information on how to configure a PANASONIC EGGCAM
> under Linux, or how to make a device. I am new to this, thanks.
> 
> Bruce

-- 
The views expressed are the author's and do not necessarily
reflect the official position of GTE or any of its subsidiaries

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From: Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development,alt.os.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Pbl with ATI RAGE PRO TURBO 8Mo
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:45:42 +0200

I have a big problem with my video card. My hardware are
ATI RAGE PRO TURBO 87Mo with a Trinitron Sony 19" screen.

With the serveur MACH64 I can't put the resolution above 1024*768.
When I start with the SVGA server I can put the resolution to 1280*1024
but all text console have a black screen.

How can I solve this problem ???

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: Keith Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Lilo used to stop after LI, now it works!
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:34:17 +0200

Thanks for your comments on working through the problem I had with LILO.

Nobody gave me a complete solution, but several people gave me clues
that led to one.

Finally, I figured out that the problem is with the geometry of the hard
drive (a Western Digital Caviar AC32500 2.5 Gbyte). The drive probable
gives incorrect values to the BIOS, or the drive gives correct valuesto
the BIOS which incorrectly interprets them (this is probale; it's an
*OLD* BIOS).

The solution turned out to be:

1. boot from the floppy
2. edit /etc/lilo.conf
   add these lines:
       disk = /dev/hda
              sectors = 63
              heads = 16
              cylinders = 4096

   then in the stanza for my kernel image, the line
              append = "hd=4096,16,63"

3. run /sbin/lilo to update LILO

4. take out the floppy and reboot.

the hd parameter to apend takes its arguments in the order
cylinders,heads,sectors.

Here are some values for other Western Digital drives
(taken from page 21 of the Caviar Series Installation Guide)

Model        cylinders        heads        sectors
AC2850        1654              16              63
AC21000       2100              16              63
AC31000       2100              16              63
AC21200       2484              16              63
AC31200       2484              16              63
AC31600       3148              16              63
AC31200       4092              16              63
AC32500       4960              16              63
AC33100       6136              16              63

/*Note that there are two versions of the AC31200 drive
   The version with 2484 cylinders is listed as having a capacity of
1281.9 MBytes.
   The version with 4092 cylinders is listed as having a capacity of
2111.8 MBytes.
   This is a typographical error: the front cover of the installation
guide refers to a model AC32100. This is very probably the 2111.8 MByte
drive.*/

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From: "Lothos_" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.graphics.api.opengl,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: HW-accelerated OpenGL for LINUX
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:45:37 -0700

Umm, we're talking about 3d here, not 2d... Its a whole different ballgame,
here's a cut'n'paste from www.mesa3d.org explaining

>>Supporting the 3Dfx hardware was relatively simple because of the 3Dfx
Glide library. In order to support other 3D hardware we need: Detailed
technical specifications which often must be obtained under NDA. <<

Chip manufacturers dont just give out specs on their hardware.  The MESA
programmers were lucky on glide because they could use an existing library
as a gateway to the hardware.  There is no paralell with other chipsets, but
i wouldnt call that a disadvantage, it would just add another layer to go
though.



jedi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:25:46 -0700, Lothos_ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Not unless the MESA programmers can get their hands on the chipset specs
> >(not likely)
>
> They do, by way of Daryll.
>
> The information for the 2D just plain publicly accessable.
> I have a copy sitting at home (paper) and at work (pdf).
>
> >
> >ohh, and cross posts are evil ;)
> >
> >
> >Lev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> use Mesa, it has HW for voodoo (and other are planed i think)
> >>
> >> Ekkehard Beier wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello anybody,
> >> >
> >> > I'm looking for a hardware-accelerated OpenGL for LINUX
> >> > SuSE 6.0/6.1.
> >> >
> >> > The supported graphics card should be an Elsa Gloria Synergy
> >> > or another board with Per media 2 chip set. However, I could
> >> > use another chip set (VOODOO) if necessary.
> >> >
> >> > - Where can I get a corresponding OpenGL implementation?
> >> >   (commercial or free, does MESA support HW?)
> >> >
> >> > - Do I need special X servers (commercial or free)?
> >> >
> >> > [In case of commercial tools, German distributors are preferred.]
> >> >
> >> > Please respond by email to:
> >> >
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> > I will post a summary if necessary.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you very much in advance.
> >> >
> >> > Yours,
> >> >         Ekki.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Ekkehard 'Ekki' Beier
> >> > Technical University of Ilmenau, Dep. of Computer Science
> >>
> >
> >



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Herb Stein)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: HDD Spindown - For a Year!
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:40:17 GMT

Do you mean that people actually turn their machines off?!

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(root) wrote:
>
>
>Be aware that the bearings in the disk drive could seize up if the
>disk isn't spun up regularly (say, once a week). (Also consider
>temperature extremes).
> If I was building a system to just put in the corner for 10 years,
>I'd seriously think about having *no* moving parts. 
>If you don't want to run completely from memory / EPROM, check out
>solid state disks. I think there's a company called "Sandisk" that
>does one with an IDE interface, though I haven't actually used one.
>
>regards
>Pete
>.........................................................................
>.. Sometime I sits and thinks               .. Pete Lynch               .
>.. and sometimes I just sits                .. Marlow, England          .
>.............................. Pooh Bear ................................

--
Herb Stein
The Herb Stein Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
314 215-3584

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From: westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:32:17 GMT

In article <7f6p0b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <7f20pj$287$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> westprog  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I just looked at my big fat Perl book, and I didn't see a single example of
> >mixed case, except, funnily enough, in the Win32 modules.
>
> Ha, you and your quick looks... I don't know which "big fat Perl
> book" you are referring to, but the "Camel" book consistently
> uses mixed case for module names, upper case for file
> descriptors, lower case for verbs (function names and operators)
> and "capitalisation" ($@%) for nouns (variables).

I read that as using mixed case only for module names. No wonder I didn't see
much. Lower case is used for function names, operators and variables? That
sounds like a 99% lower case language to me.

> Stop basing your arguments on superficial (at best) insight.

Now I can base them on your in-depth analysis.

J.

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From: BL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Celreon on dual Pentium mother boards
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:54:44 GMT

yes its possible.

go to altavista and search on 'dual celeron'.  you'll find the links.

chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Is it possible to use 2 celeron cpu's on dual pentium II board

: If not what would be a cheap way of making a SMP machine?


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From: BL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need local system builder who will build EXACTLY to-spec (SF Bay Area)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:53:44 GMT

Normally I build all my own systems.  But I need a special system for work and
they (the purchasing dept.) want the entire system to be covered by some
company's warrantee and get hardware support from them.  They don't want a
bunch of discrete components and "no support".  And I can't argue with them -
its their policy, etc, etc.

I know about VA Research and PenguinComputing - but VA won't build with the
motherboard I want (I demand only Asus boards) and Penguin is still checking
to see if they can buy/use the board I specify.

I need a fairly non-typical system: 

  - hardware pci raid
  - dual head display (probably using g200 cards)
  - dual Pent 2 cpu's

and I'd like to get a commercial x-server included (one price - easy for our
corp. folks to signoff on than a bunch of line-items that I -know- they won't
understand and will question me to death on) ;-)

Anyone in the SF Bay Area (san francisco area) willing to work with me on
building and supporting a system exactly to my specs?


thanks,

-- 
blevin [at] terayon [dot] com

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:50:54 -1000
From: "Scott M. Cooley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Burning coasters w/ Phi;ips CDD 2000

Hi There

I have a Philips CDD-2000 2x Cd recorder (internal) plugged into a
Adapted AHA-2920 (fdomain driver).

The drive works fine for normal operations, but i've noticed that lately
it will just stop writing, usually about halfway into a disc.  This
results in making a coaster and an unhappy user.  Since this operation
locks the drive (and the tray), I have to reboot, and without fail the
next one I write comes out fine.  It seems that as long as a reboot is
done between each copy, it comes out okay.

Does any one use this drive and have any ideas for me?

Thanks in advance,

Scott

Please email me directly with any help you can offer.

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From: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASUS P5AB
Date: 20 Apr 1999 12:17:14 GMT

Tom Friedetzky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,

>are there ANY known problems with Linux and the ASUS P5AB? I'm running
>it for some weeks now and I'm quite happy with both performance and
>stability, but before suggesting it to a friend I'd like to be sure that
>I'm not missing something (especially because he has had quite some
>trouble with a different ALI board).  He's got an AMD K6-II 350, an ATI
>Expert98, and 128 MB of PC100 SDRAM. Currently he's running kernel
>2.0.36.
>
>I know of some problems related to the P5AB and the ATI card, but as far
>as I know a recent BIOS should take care of them.
>
>If you know of any other socket7 AT-format mobo more suitable /
>recommendable... any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

I'd suggest the FIC VA503+.  The P5A-B is a good board but I don't think
Linux has UDMA support yet for the ALI chipset.  With the MVP3 chipset you
get UDMA support in the 2.2 kernels, or with the so-called "jumbo patch".

-- Rod
======================================================================
Sunset Systems                           Preconfigured Linux Computers
http://www.sunsetsystems.com/                      and Custom Software
======================================================================

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From: "Stephen Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using IDE Tape drives
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:34:51 -0500

I recompiled the kernel with support in, and finally have it recognised. I
am just learning the eccentricities of dealing with a tape drive(correct
device to install as/ /devhdd mapped as /dev/ht0/, how to access). The thing
with Win95 is it insulates one from the specifics. Am a relative newbie and
gradually learning the specifics of my tapedrive to get it to work with
Linux(kernel 2.0.36/Redhat 5.2 with Sony Superstation). I still have yet to
find a good site or posting with a listing on tape specific specifications.
Would love to know more of the specifics of the Sony 3.3G/6/6C compressed
tapes, for configuring formats and backups.

John Thompson wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Stephen Miller wrote:
>
>>     Are there any sites or documentation on using IDE tape drives with
>> Linux?  I've installed a Sony tape drive in a dual boot Win95/Linux
>> system(still need some Win95 programs), and can't quite seem to get the
tape
>> working with Linux. Works like it is supposed to with Win95. Any help
would
>> be most appreciated.
>
>Do you have the IDE tape device support available (either as
>a module or compiled into the kernel)?  What kernel version
>are you using?  My Colorado 5GB IDE drive was recognized by
>kernel 2.0.34 but wouldn't work properly until I went to
>kernel 2.2.1.  Now it works fine using tar.
>
>-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



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From: Gary Brant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ensoniq PCI audio
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:24:20 GMT


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Hi,
Is there a driver for the Ensoniq PCI audio found in HP Pavillion's?
What configuration
is needed?

--
Windows protection error.  You need to restart your computer.



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From: "Richard Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: 2940U2W on Linux problems.. can i just use it as UW...?
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:29:48 -0400
Reply-To: "Richard Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hey there... Just came accross your post.

I used to have a linux box running on a P-200 with a 2940UW SCSI card with a
9GB drive...  Linux ran no problem.  I didn't encounter any time outs, or
lost blocks.

Richard Fleming
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7feurp$62d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> i have adaptec 2940u2w only one scsi drive on it,
> kernel 2.2.5, aic7xxx patches for 2.2.1(sucked even more without them) but
> sometimes
> drive gets blocked ( repeated timeouts..).
>
> questions:
>
> - since 2940u2w linux drivers seem to still be experimental
>    can i just use UW connectors ??(again, have only one drive, but it is
> U2W(Seagate Cheetah))
> - anyone successfylly using 2940UW with linux ?
> - should i better go for another controller ? which one would you suggest
?
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Moritz Moeller-Herrmann)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,fido.ger.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: logitech mouse problems...
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:18:10 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:20:43 +0200, Christoph Klaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hi folks...
>
>i've got a problem installing my mouse (Logitech PS/2 Wheelmouse S48).
>i'm running redhat 5.2 and no matter which  port and which protocol i
>choose gpm says : /dev/mouse : resource is not available/busy (something
>like that) or /dev/mouse : operation not supported by resource...
>
>my kernel DOES support PS/2 but gpm won't accept my mouse....
>
>does anyone of you know why ??
/dev/mouse is just a link to the right device file. Maybe it is pointing at the
wrong file?
This is my mouse link for my logitech (non-wheel) ps/2 mouse.
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           10 Apr 19 21:29 /dev/mouse -> /dev/psaux
-- 
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 3585990        # Not only
Get my public pgp / gpg key from                        # Open Source(TM)
http://webrum.uni-mannheim.de/jura/moritz/pubkeymoritz  # but also
KDE forever! Use Linux to impress your friends!         # Open Minded!


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From: Travis F Shugarts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: RealTek RTL 8029 PCI Ethernet Driver
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:26:05 -0400

The NE2000 PCI driver included with RedHat 5.2 will work, as the RTL8029
and NE2000 are based on the same National Semiconductor design.

You can obtain the latest drivers by upgrading your kernel to 2.2.x, or
download the driver itself from

http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/ne2k-pci.html

hope this helps

-Travis

Iain Campbell wrote:

> Is there one ?  Is there a compatible one?
> (For RedHat 5.2)
>
> Is there a Santa Claus ???
>
> TIA
>
> iain
>
> --
> Iain Campbell - Senior Associate
>
> sandon associates 520 Second Street West Owen Sound  On
> Tel (519) 371-6242 FAX (519) 371-4417 email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: 20 Apr 1999 13:26:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <7fhs4h$fq5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
westprog  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Stop basing your arguments on superficial (at best) insight.
>Now I can base them on your in-depth analysis.

Go ahead...
;-)

Cheers
Steffen.

-- 
Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
--

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From: "Val Jogai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: ABIT vs ASUS vs GIGABYTE for linux
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:35:10 -0700

I am planning to build a pentium linux box and have narrowed my choice of
motherboards to three:
ABIT BX6 (REV 2.0)
ASUS P2B-F
GIGABYTE GA-6BXE

I am fearful of making the wrong choice.  Could someone comment on the
relative merits of these boards for linux?

--
Val Jogai
jogai+AEA-infinet.com



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From: "news.freeserve.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie Questions
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:45:07 +0100
Reply-To: "news.freeserve.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Being new to Linux (SuSE LINUX 6.0 using the 2.2.7 (I think-not the stable
2.2 Kernel as this was not available in this release)) and running KDE and
as most people growing up with usable but slightly unstable Windows
operating systems (Windows 3.11,95,98 and NT4), I have a few questions which
I would be grateful if someone out there could answer.

My computers specs are:-
QDI Brilliant motherboard
P2 450 CPU
320Mb Ram
10Gb HDD
Matrox G200 AGP Video
12Mb Voodoo2 3D Accelerator
Creative SoundBlaster Live Value PCI sound card
External Parallel port Zip Drive

  These are:

1, I have a NE2000 compatible ISA network card which works fine on Win 95/98
but not NT4 or Linux even though I have selected it using Yast.  I need this
to work so that I can print as my printer is networked and connected to a
Win98 machine.  I can print from Windows although Linux seems far more
stable (A lot of people winge about Windows and rightly so if they don't
know their ass from their elbow and can't fix it when it throws a wobbly.  I
fortunately do know the difference between my anatomical parts) and would
rather carry on up the learning curve.  Help would be appreciated.

2, I have a U.S.Robotics Sporster 56K modem (not a Winnodem-I know these
don't work using Linux(they a specifically designed for Windows)) on Com
port 3 I/O Range 03E8-03EF and IRQ 5 and would love to use it and Netscape
to connect up, send mail etc.  I find however that I cannot get it to work.
Any ideas?

3, My sound card will not work (I know I shouldn't have given my old PC
containing AWE 64 Gold card to my Girlfriend) but most games I play come in
Windows format and that's the only reason I will keep Mr Gates spawn running
on my machine until I have mastered Linux and major games such as Half-Life
come ported to Linux.  Any work arounds ideas?

4, Any suggestions on book to buy/web sites with good idiot guide type
information also would not go amiss.

Thanks for your time and if you want I will send you a copy of Turok if I
find any useful (I have about 10 copies still in the plastic wrappings).
Don't worry I'm not a nutter they were delivered to the wrong address and I
need to get rid of them.



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From: John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:53:07 GMT

root wrote:
> 
> Zenin wrote:
> 
> > In comp.lang.java.advocacy root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >         >snip<
> > : Even if the code does something correctly, how do you know what the author
> > : intended it to do if they didn't bother to write it down?
> >
> >         Because they coded it that way?
> 
> That didn't make much sense.
> 
> >         I write code as much or more then I speek English on a day to day
> >         basis.  Who's to say I'll make my points any better in English then
> >         in C?
> >
> >         Don't comment algorithms if you can avoid it (and you almost always
> >         can), only data.  Even at that most data can be "commented" by
> >         simply giving it a proper mnemonic name.
> 
> You wouldn't be allowed to design in my company.  You'd only be allowed
> to code.  My friend calls them code monkeys.  We save the designing for the
> professionals.
> 

Sorry... if your professional "designers" require lots of comments to
make their algorithms understood, then perhaps they need to rethink
their designs... most resources spent on a software project are for
maintenance & evolution of the code. An algorithm that is so convoluted
that it requires lots of comments is *very* difficult to maintain. You
should be able to describe a function in one sentence plus one phrase
for each parameter passed. Choosing names for identifiers that are
meaningful and writing the code in a clear fashion should minimize if
not eliminate the need for comments within the body of the code. Putting
a lot of comments *in* the code make it a lot harder to understand
simply because most comments don't help, but instead destroy the
"visual" flow of the code. Proper indenting and use of whitespace go
*alot* further toward making code understandable...

John

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ezra Herman)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: OnStream SC30 and Linux
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:52:50 GMT

Dale Gass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>Anyhow, I saw about 30M/minute backup speeds.  Not quite the 2M/sec
>native transfer rate the drive is supposed to be capable of, nor the
>80-90MB/minute that some people have reported on the net.  This is on a
>PII-450 Dell with lotsa memory.  I tried copmressed and uncompressed and
>it didn't make any difference.
>

>
>Should I worry about having a lemon drive, only seeing half the
>potential speed of the drive?  (Especially since the Adaptec card, file
>system, etc., shouldn't be bottlenecks.)  Should I try an Adaptec 29xx
>card?  (Can I get away with the cheap 2906, or will OnStream just say,
>"ohhh, well *we* tried it with a 2940U2W..."?)
>

Dale-

I'm running the drive with a 2910 and getting almost the same numbers
that you are. I can get higher speeds reported doing short backups,
but for multi-gig backups I always end up around 27-28MB/min.

The random access speed *is* impressive, though.

-Ezra

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From: "Osvaldo Pinali Doederlein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:42:09 +0200

In Windows NT, you can disable generation of truncated filenames in NTFS
(yet another registry hack)... I do this and I'm happy, there is no such
garbage here, and I never run any 16-bit crap anyway and I never install
things in the hideously stupid "Program Files" (I prefer having an Apps dir,
a Dev dir, an an Util dir as roots.) -- that's important because installers
are usually 16-bit and they become utterly confused otherwise, without
PROGRA~1  :)



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