Linux-Hardware Digest #83, Volume #13 Wed, 21 Jun 00 08:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: External Modem`s (Michael McConnell)
driver for yamaha-cd-writer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution ("Richard Clafton")
Re: Linux on Aviion ("Lynn Anderson")
Asus P3B-F + lm_sensors (Daniel Wagner)
ot: which graphic card? (Matthias Zeichmann)
Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution (Simon Brooke)
Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution (Chris Beauchamp)
Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution (Chris Beauchamp)
Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution (David Coulson)
Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ??? (2:1)
Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution ("Richard Clafton")
Re: Water cooling system (Daniel Haude)
Re: Water cooling system (Daniel Haude)
ide problem (Jorge JUAN CHICO)
Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution ("Richard Clafton")
Re: Water cooling system (Michael Hofmann)
Re: ATI Rage 128 (Warren Gross)
Re: ATI Rage 128 (Andreas Tretow)
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From: Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: External Modem`s
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:57:56 +0100
vOn 20 Jun 2000, Richard Watson wrote:
> Joeri Sebrechts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > It's not guaranteed that an external modem is not a winmodem (and thus
> > likely to only work in windows). I've seen external winmodems before.
>
> Do you know how one of these works (a non-usb one)?
>
> I've yet to see an external serial port modem that's a winmodem.
The Motorola L7089 cellphone (using the data cable) is an external winmodem.
(oddly enough, when used over infrared it's a hardware modem, though with
fewer features)
-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell [Eridani Linux 6.2 available]
Eridani Linux -- The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat-based Linux CDROMs Available
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eridani.co.uk Fax: +44-8701-600807
"No. 'Eureka' is Greek for 'This bath is too hot.'" - Dr Who.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: driver for yamaha-cd-writer
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:06:38 GMT
Hello,
I am looking for a driver for the Yamaha CRW6416SX-VK for using it under
Linux.
Does anybody have an idea?
Alex
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Before you buy.
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From: "Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:36:41 +0100
Reply-To: "Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Chris Beauchamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Derek Colley wrote:
> >Thanks Richard (and all the other that posted) - this is good stuff.
> >I'm am still looking for a kit though.
> >Are there any spec sheets for the OSRAQ?
> >The site mentions Win2K. Is pre-installed Linux an option?
> >Or even getting a unit without OS?
>
> Ugh! just read their W2K page - ho hum, I guess they're entitled to their
> opinion (however wrong it may be...).
Just because I wrote it does not mean I believe it ;-) Although Windows 2000
does have it's good points - but this is neither the time or the place to
argue those points. We sell the servers bare - so you can install your OS of
choice.
Much prefer Linux any day! But you cant sell an OS that requires brain power
(Linux) to the masses - so we have to cater for the larger audience by
pampering to their needs. I would much rather stick with Linux.
> However, I suspect that the systems OSless (server type things generally
> are...), their support page appears to have links to intel's pages on the
> motherboard etc (I recognise the model, and Intel's details are pretty
> informative.
We have tested a server (which has been running for over 6 months) with a
PIII 650Mhz with not problems whatsoever. Red Hat installs like a dream and
so does Windows 2000 (if you are that way inclined) - cooling is not a
problem, there are two (in) fans at the front of the case and the PSU has
two (out) fans at the rear. The processor also has a fan and the chassis
goes some way to acting as a simple heat sink.
> Its much the same spec as is mentioned in Linux Today's article...
> http://linuxtoday.com/stories/15158.html on building a 1U server.
>
> Chris
Regards
Richard Clafton
Technical Director
OSR@Q Servers
http://www.OSRAQ.com
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From: "Lynn Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on Aviion
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:52:57 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Johan Kullstam
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Lynn Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi, Anybody know if Linux runs on the Data General Aviion range ok?
>
> you mean like an ALR revolution quad6 (4 ppros)? i am using one to
> compose this message right now.
>
Well, maybe. I don't know the AViiON hardware yet. There are potential
customers who have these machines running DG/UX and I think NT. Don't know
the model numbers yet; heard that they could be the AviiON 5000's. Can't
find it on DG's web site. But they are all Intel, not Motorola, cpu's.
What is your configuration?
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From: Daniel Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Asus P3B-F + lm_sensors
Date: 21 Jun 2000 10:53:18 +0200
Hello,
has anybody tried out lm_sensors with an Asus P3B-F with lm_sensors or
any other hardware sensors package?
I didn't come to an end when I was trying it.
cya, Daniel
--
*** System shutdown message from root ***
System going down in 60 seconds
@icq: 41472160 (kwaxi) @counter.li: #65688
@www: http://www.pfeilheim.sth.ac.at/members/d.wagner/
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From: Matthias Zeichmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ot: which graphic card?
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:46:42 GMT
ho ppl!
i�m going to buy myself some new comp around an athlon 700. i�ve thought
of an abit ka7 board, which i�m not sure of, maybe it�s gonna be an asus
or gigabyte. but the question is: which graphic card should i take?
i�m looking for something w/ reasonable 3d performance (for q3a), so i
think matrox g400 is out of discussion. what about this nvidia stuff:
tnt2 ultra, geforce256 (no ddr)? any other suggestions? the thing is:
i�m not going to spend a fortune (fortune = 200$) on it.
any hints/comments/experiences are appreciated
TIA m
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Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution
From: Simon Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:33:11 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Beauchamp) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Derek Colley wrote:
> >Thanks Richard (and all the other that posted) - this is good stuff.
> >I'm am still looking for a kit though.
> >Are there any spec sheets for the OSRAQ?
> >The site mentions Win2K. Is pre-installed Linux an option?
> >Or even getting a unit without OS?
>
> Ugh! just read their W2K page - ho hum, I guess they're entitled to their
> opinion (however wrong it may be...).
Go work for them, then. According to their news page
<URL:http://www.oseu.co.uk/news.htm>, they're looking for a 'Linux
guru'. However, they do apparently support at least RedHat - read the
other entries on the same page.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
Due to financial constraints, the light at the end of the tunnel
has been switched off.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Beauchamp)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:42:29 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Simon Brooke wrote:
<snip>
>
>Go work for them, then. According to their news page
><URL:http://www.oseu.co.uk/news.htm>, they're looking for a 'Linux
>guru'. However, they do apparently support at least RedHat - read the
>other entries on the same page.
Aye, I considered it, but the morning commute from Perth would be a killer!
Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Beauchamp)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:50:52 +0100
In article <8ipujl$77l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Clafton wrote:
>
>
>"Chris Beauchamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>
>> Ugh! just read their W2K page - ho hum, I guess they're entitled to their
>> opinion (however wrong it may be...).
>
>Just because I wrote it does not mean I believe it ;-) Although Windows 2000
>does have it's good points - but this is neither the time or the place to
>argue those points. We sell the servers bare - so you can install your OS of
>choice.
Awww [puts down box of matches and can of petrol] You're no fun!
>
>Much prefer Linux any day! But you cant sell an OS that requires brain power
>(Linux) to the masses - so we have to cater for the larger audience by
>pampering to their needs. I would much rather stick with Linux.
Do the masses buy 1U rack-mount servers? I would have thought that it was
still the realm of the techie/sysadmin type?
>
>We have tested a server (which has been running for over 6 months) with a
>PIII 650Mhz with not problems whatsoever. Red Hat installs like a dream and
>so does Windows 2000 (if you are that way inclined) - cooling is not a
>problem, there are two (in) fans at the front of the case and the PSU has
>two (out) fans at the rear. The processor also has a fan and the chassis
>goes some way to acting as a simple heat sink.
Mmmmmm... Next time I'm looking for a commercial colo box, I'll look your
way, but the hacker in me _knows_ that it is much more fun to put together
something like this myself, inspite of the risks!
Chris
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From: David Coulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:04:31 +0100
Chris Beauchamp wrote:
> I recently costed it out myself, buying the bits from Insight.com, and the
> case from the previously mentioned pcicase, and it came out the around
> UKP650 (inc. vat) (C550,64Mb,17GbIDE,CD,Floppy,2x100Mbps) [Anyone know any
> cheap colocation deals?]
You could try www.mailbox.net.uk for cheap colo stuff.
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ???
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:36:55 +0100
peter wrote:
>
> I'm setting up two 486 linux systems, one will be a small web sever,
> firewall, and ip masq.
>
> The other will be a machine to write perl programs on.
>
> I have two 250 meg drives, I don't plan to install X, so which distro
> is out there that will allow me to do what i want to do on the 486's
> ???
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
RedHat 5.2 can fit in to 200 meg with X and netscape. It's quite a lot
smaller without. As for really small distros, Monkey Linux comes on 5
floppies _with_ X and there is an apache package for it. That will leave
loads of space for data and swap.
http://www.spsselib.hiedu.cz/monkey/
-Ed
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http://fuji.stcatz.ox.ac.uk/cult/index.html
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it.
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From: "Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:53:55 +0100
Reply-To: "Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Chris Beauchamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <8ipujl$77l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Clafton wrote:
> >"Chris Beauchamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >> Ugh! just read their W2K page - ho hum, I guess they're entitled to
their
> >> opinion (however wrong it may be...).
> >Just because I wrote it does not mean I believe it ;-) Although Windows
2000
> >does have it's good points - but this is neither the time or the place to
> >argue those points. We sell the servers bare - so you can install your OS
of
> >choice.
> Awww [puts down box of matches and can of petrol] You're no fun!
Sorry, but I am a believer! - Even though I am no 'Expert' I still prefer
Linux, its the OS of the Internet. Maybe we can start the fire another day.
> >Much prefer Linux any day! But you cant sell an OS that requires brain
power
> >(Linux) to the masses - so we have to cater for the larger audience by
> >pampering to their needs. I would much rather stick with Linux.
> Do the masses buy 1U rack-mount servers? I would have thought that it was
> still the realm of the techie/sysadmin type?
Not the masses as such, but we have probably 30 - 40 units since the
beginning of May. Most of them have gone into europe for Firewall's and
Mail Servers, but several have been sold to the private sector - coupled
with a mini-rack, eicon isdn router and a hub - you have a very nice
moveable SoHo solution.
The main one of interest at the moment is the new 2U unit and IDE/SCSI Raid
Array. The 2U will have Dual CPU, 5 drive bays and 2 spare PCI slots. But
we are waiting for stock to arrive before we can start shipping them.
> >We have tested a server (which has been running for over 6 months) with a
> >PIII 650Mhz with not problems whatsoever. Red Hat installs like a dream
and
> >so does Windows 2000 (if you are that way inclined) - cooling is not a
> >problem, there are two (in) fans at the front of the case and the PSU has
> >two (out) fans at the rear. The processor also has a fan and the chassis
> >goes some way to acting as a simple heat sink.
> Mmmmmm... Next time I'm looking for a commercial colo box, I'll look your
> way, but the hacker in me _knows_ that it is much more fun to put together
> something like this myself, inspite of the risks!
Don't we all - thats the nature of techies - we love to build and tinker.
But ther will always be people that freeze at the thought of building a
box - and most corporates don't want the hassle of building their own kit -
which suits us down to the ground.
Just a quick note - we can sell the cases separately if required - at �200
they are not cheap (and not much above cost price!) - but they are, in my
opinion, the best ones available. And believe me I have seen quite a few
'tacky' ones in the past couple of months.
I may even start to offer a bare bones pack - Case, Floppy, PSU and
Motherboard for all you techies out there.
Dick
> Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Haude)
Subject: Re: Water cooling system
Date: 21 Jun 2000 10:56:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:04:04 GMT,
Serban-Mihai Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
in Msg. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Daniel Haude wrote:
| > A processor dissipates maybe ten watts, most likely a lot less. You'd
|
| Are you sure? New processors easily eat up to 30Amps @ 1.6V. This makes
| fifty Watts.
Really! I'm always behind on new technology. Anyway, fifty watts is just
the equivalent of a normal household bulb. Nothing that will heat up the
room by any significant amount.
--Daniel
--
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy
way to factor large prime numbers." -- Bill Gates, "The Road Ahead"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Haude)
Subject: Re: Water cooling system
Date: 21 Jun 2000 10:58:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:00:20 +0200,
Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
in Msg. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| A pretty obsolete processor you have there, a 386 or 486 maybe? My AMD
| K6-3 400 draws 12.4 A @ 2.4 V so the generated heat amounts to approx.
| 30 Watts (full load of course). Enough to require one of the better
| heatsink/fan combos and a perceptible contribution to the room
| temperature.
As out of touch as I certainly am with processor technology, 30 watts will
not do anything perceptible to the temperature of an average room.
--Daniel
--
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy
way to factor large prime numbers." -- Bill Gates, "The Road Ahead"
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From: Jorge JUAN CHICO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ide problem
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:44:41 +0200
I upgraded to linux 2.2.16 about a week ago and since then I've got
messages like that:
hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
About 100 during the last week. Everything seems to work fine though. The
same kernel runs OK in other machines.
Some one have any clue?
Should I worry about it?
Any known problem with 2.2.16 ide?
Thanks in advance.
jorge.
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From: "Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:11:14 +0100
Reply-To: "Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A man of my word - for all you techies out their who would like to build
themselves a 1U Server to their own specification, we now have available a
BARE BONES kit with 1U Case, PSU, Motherboard and Floppy Drive - rack
mounting kit and all other accessories.
www.OSRAQ.com/prices.htm
Richard Clafton
Technical Director
OSR@Q Servers
www.OSRAQ.com
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From: Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Water cooling system
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:23:34 +0200
Daniel Haude wrote:
>
> Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
> | A pretty obsolete processor you have there, a 386 or 486 maybe? My AMD
> | K6-3 400 draws 12.4 A @ 2.4 V so the generated heat amounts to approx.
> | 30 Watts (full load of course). Enough to require one of the better
> | heatsink/fan combos and a perceptible contribution to the room
> | temperature.
>
> As out of touch as I certainly am with processor technology, 30 watts will
> not do anything perceptible to the temperature of an average room.
Ok, it all depends on the room and setup. A computer system dissipates
more than 30W anyway, most of it will be contributed by the monitor
usually.
Back in school days a buddy of mine used to heat his small room with a
100W light bulb by 2 or 3 degrees (celsius). Took a few hours though.
Serious server rooms usually need air conditioning...
So in the end it probably depends on how you define 'perceptible'.
Have fun,
Michael
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From: Warren Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ATI Rage 128
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:31:13 GMT
Tried that and unfortunately didn't fix the problem.
Warren
Usman Muzaffar wrote:
> Warren Gross wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >I'm having a strange problem with my ATI Rage 128 (XPERT 2000)
> >
> >I installed Redhat 6.2 (xfree86 3.3.6) and it found and configured
> >the card properly. I get video that appears ok, but whenever I move
> >a window I see a lot of strange video noise appearing as vertical bands
> >running from the top to the bottom of the screen. They are relatively
> >evenly spaced.
> >
> >Anybody else seen this problem? Is the card ok?
> >
>
> Try sticking an Options = noaccel line in your XF86Config
> Device section. Every time I come across a card that does this,
> turning of accleration usually fixes it until you can find a
> better driver. Card is probably fine.
> My $0.02
> -usman
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From: Andreas Tretow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ATI Rage 128
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:55:05 +0200
I have the ATI Rage Fury (unfortunately in the other not working
machine), but did you try the xrage.rpm from Suse (although I didn't
have to use it with RH6.2) ? In case you haven't tried it yet and can't
find it, mail me, and I will send to you.
Andreas
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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