Linux-Hardware Digest #94, Volume #10 Sat, 24 Apr 99 11:14:46 EDT
Contents:
Re: Any news on the SBLIVe? (Jim Zubb)
Re: Questions about Linux on a large memory multiprocessor (Bradley M Keryan)
Re: Winmodems and Linux (John Thompson)
Re: Programmers are gods ("Chad Mulligan")
Specialix SX - Linux Driver (Frank Paprosky)
LILO and large hard disk ("Paul Pop")
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Anthony Ord)
ATI XPERT 99 and XFree86 (Colin)
Re: Good (cheap) tape backup solution? (Rod Roark)
Re: ATI Xpert 98 AGP problems in Xwindows (Neil Steadman)
PB with ATI card ("Franck D. Bochaton")
Re: AWE 64 configuration problen ("George Camden")
Re: Programmers are gods (Jim Henderson)
Re: kernel 2.2.6: ATAPI Zip Drive still a problem (Simone Piccardi)
WinTV???? (Stephane Sandarom)
Re: Linux Installation only on 2nd HD (David Ripton)
Re: Modems (M|S)
Matrox Millenium MGA-G200 AGP under Redhat 5.2? (Kieran & Hobbes)
Re: Modem recognized by minicom but not chat or dip (Raymond Miecznik)
Re: Modems (M|S)
Re: Will Linux does work with my Diamond supra express modem?
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A letter to APUS-developers (Anton Klotz)
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From: Jim Zubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any news on the SBLIVe?
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 05:15:17 +0000
Juha Koskela wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.hardware Panic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Which website do they mean check? www.sblive.com or the developers one?
>
> : > Definately go with the SB Live! card, its awesome. We currently are
> : > working on Linux drivers for the card, they should be released hopefully
> : > within the next few weeks. Keep checking our website to see if/when we
> : > release the drivers.
> : >
>
> I think they ment developers site.
> At least there was this line at the end of posting I got from creative.
> (However it was not mentioned where to look at.. and there is linux text
> (not link yet) in the drivers&patches section.)
>
Hmm, just checked it, there is now a linux page, doesn't say
much, just some links and a Mailing List signup. It says
they setup a newsgroup, but I didn't see it, might be going
up shortly.
--
Jim Zubb
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From: Bradley M Keryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Questions about Linux on a large memory multiprocessor
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:59:16 -0400
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Peter A. Dinda wrote:
> We're thinking of buying a big multiprocessor box for a distributed data
> visualization project. The Intel 450NX boxes look fairly tempting, but
> there are a number of questions I can't seem to find the answer to:
>
> 1. Does Linux support quad processor PIII-Xeon 450NX boxes?
>
> 2. Are there other quad-or-bigger Linux-supported intel boxes that I
> should look at?
Someone already answered those...
>
> 3. Can Linux use 4 GB (or maybe more) memory in such a machine?
No. I think there are people toying with supporting Intel's extended
36-bit addressing on PPro/Xeon but as far as I know there's no working
code yet.
The default kernel supports 3GB of user address space and 960MB of
physical RAM. To change this (in Linux 2.2.x) read the comments in
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/page.h
>
> 4. How much physical memory can I reference from a user program (ie, how
> big can the user portion of the virtual address space be?) Can I tune
> it? I'd really like to be able to use all of the physical memory from a
> single user process. I can live without paging/swapping.
Since memory is split between kernel and user spaces, it depends how much
physical RAM you want to support. Set it to do 2GB physical RAM and you
have only 2GB of user address space.
There was a patch on the linux-kernel mailing list this week that
increases the physical memory support to almost 4GB but made the user
address space really small (like 150MB or so). I don't know if it was
tested in that configuration either. It might be okay for webservers but
not for your needs.
You really should take a close look at 64-bit machines (Alpha,
Ultrasparc). Of those, Alpha is more mature (last I looked, Ultrapenguin
had a 32-bit userland, though that might have changed). I don't know what
your other requirements are, though.
> 5. Does Linux support big (50-200 GB, say) RAID-5 disk subsystems on
> such a box?
I believe so. Do you need files bigger than 2GB? The maximum file size is
currently limited to 2GB on x86 (although there's a patch to "fake" large
files using large file arrays, probably somewhere at www.linuxhq.com). I'd
check with the Alpha and Ultrasparc Linux people to see if they support
files greater than 2GB (I think Alpha does, but I can't say for certain).
>
> Help would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Peter Dinda
>
>
Brad
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Winmodems and Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:16:29 -0600
Bill Volk wrote:
> I think the issue should be made much more visable. In addition I can't
> imagine why someone like 3COM couldn't figure out how to make a Linux driver
> for their PCMCIA modem.
I'm sure they could if they wanted. But the entire "raison
d'etre" for Winmodems is cheapness, so why why bother
investing in anything but the most popular platform?
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 03:48:35 -0700
Reply-To: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Steve Mading wrote in message <7fqr11$br6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>westprog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>: Not starting to code until the design is fixed, and then sticking rigidly
to
>: the design documents is one approach.
>
>Only if you don't mind having software in the end that doesn't work.
>
>The original designers *NEVER* think of everything. There's too many
>things that can be missed. Sometimes it's not a matter of something
>being wrong, its a matter of something being unmentioned or ambiguous.
>Any software design model that puts too many hurdles in the way of
>fixing bad designs is doomed.
>
westprog's final sentence actually summed up the spirit of ISO9000.
Variance isnt prohibited, it just has to be properly documented and
supported. A pain in the butt to be sure, but it does make life easier a few
revs down the pipe.
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From: Frank Paprosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Specialix SX - Linux Driver
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:16:16 GMT
Hi gang!
Is there someone who had installed a Specialix SX
I/O board under Linux 2.0.36 or 2.2.5 ?
How goes the driver from Specialix ftp site ? Is it bad, good or execellent ?
Can someone tell their experiences with this serial I/O board.
Best Regards
Frank
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From: "Paul Pop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: LILO and large hard disk
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:23:45 GMT
Hi,
I have a Fujitsu 8.4Gb hard disk on my system with an Asus TX97-E
motherboard. For some reason the BIOS does not recognize the full size of
the hard disk if I use LBA. The only option that works is NORMAL. With this,
however, the number of cylinders is 16,383. When I run Linux' fdisk it warns
me that the number of cylinders exceeds 1024. This is what the partition
table looks like:
Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id
System
/dev/hda1 1 1 1020 514048+ 6
DOS 16-bit > =32M
/dev/hda2 * 1021 1021 15359 7614432 83
Linux native
/dev/hda3 15360 16129 16383 128520 82
Linux swap
My problem is that Linux does not boot from the hard disk (it boots fine
from the floppy made during installation). I've installed LILO in theboot
record of the root file system. I've used the "append = hd=16383,16,63" in
the /etc/lilo.conf file. When I run lilo at the prompt I get the following
message:
geo_comp_addr: Cylinder number is too big (3119 > 1023).
^
(Where does this come from?)
I ran lilo -l and it told me that it added both the Linux and the DOS
partitions. However I still can't boot from the hard disk (system just hangs
with no messages, I do not even get L.). In the DOS partition I have WinNT
and it sees the entire disk. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Paul Pop
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:16:01 GMT
On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:00:01 -0700, "Simon Cooke"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >Or are you proposing that people ditch all their software and start from
>> >scratch?
>>
>> This shows the virtue of good design in the first instance.
>
>Which is all well and good in theory, especially when you're talking about a
>20 year old design...
Is this where I jump in and point out the ages of various
OSs that were around before DOS? And which don't have this
problem?
Regards
Anthony
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From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: ATI XPERT 99 and XFree86
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:22:33 -0400
Does anyone know if the ATI XPERT 99 (which uses the RAGE 128GL chip) works
with XFree86 3.3.3.1?
--
Reply to "cwv [at] idirect (dot) com"
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From: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good (cheap) tape backup solution?
Date: 24 Apr 1999 12:33:24 GMT
Alex Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm looking to buy a tape drive for my Linux system, and was wondering if
>anybody had suggestions as to particular choices to look at or stay away from.
>This will probably be being used to back up a small network of 3 or 4 desktop
>machines at irregular intervals. My criteria are more or less as follows:
>
>Reasonably priced (under $500 or so)
>Decent sized backup media (8GB or more (without compression) would be nice)
>Common/standard backup media would be a plus
>Reliable / problem-free (obviously)
>Works well with Linux
>*not* anything QIC
>*not* anything Colorado
Consider an extra hard drive or two. Fast, cheap, reliable. Plus you
can get one of those removable enclosures, or leave it on the machine
and spin it down with hdparm when it's not in use.
-- Rod
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http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ and Custom Software
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Steadman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: ATI Xpert 98 AGP problems in Xwindows
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:58:01 +0059
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Has anybody figured out what the :
>> > ProgramClkMach64ct: Warning: Q < 16.66666667
Message means on Mach64 XFree86? I've noticed the value changes for
different Mach64 cards, and that it appears periodically in the tty session
I ran startx from while I'm running X. So yes, X appears to be running fine,
but I'd just like to be sure I'm not cooking my monitor...
--
How many shopping days till Xmas?
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From: "Franck D. Bochaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PB with ATI card
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:57:47 +0200
Has someone ever configured XFree vith a ATI 3D Rage Fury card ? I am using
XFree version 3.3.3.1 (latest version I believe) and can't manage to do it.
I think I would need the XFree86-Mach128-3.3.3.1-2.i386.rpm file but can't
manage to find it.
Thank's for helping.
Franck Bochaton.
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From: "George Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: AWE 64 configuration problen
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 03:13:32 -0700
I had the same problem here .
Try sndconfig -- noprobe or sndconfig --noautoconfig
I can't remember which one I used but I have sound now.
Hope this helps.
George
Al wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>
>I have RH 5.2. sndconfig recognizes my sound card (Creative SB AWE64
>PnP).
>When it tries to test the sound card it gets the following error.
>An error occurred opening /dev/audio
>
>sndconfig wants me to manually configure the card.
>
>How do I get my sound casd to work.
>
>Thanks
>
>Al
>
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From: Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:56:08 -0600
Andrew Fan wrote:
> Another thing is that I absolutely HATE long functions. Have you ever
> tried to match the 'end' of an 'if' statement when it is some 200
> lines above and beyond your editor window's viewport?
That's why I code the beginning and end before filling in the blanks.
That way, I know my braces are matched. :-)
Jim
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From: Simone Piccardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.2.6: ATAPI Zip Drive still a problem
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:37:38 +0200
I had the same problem. I had to go to the vendor to get this fixed.
They put the zip on hdc (it was in hdd) and now works fine. Probably
they change also some other things in the bios, but I don't know.
Bye
--
Simone Piccardi
Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
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From: Stephane Sandarom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WinTV????
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:18:51 +0100
Folks,
Did anyone ever try to make WinTV work under Linux???
Are modules available or is this a new challenge???
Maybe WINE???
Cheers,
Hans.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Ripton)
Subject: Re: Linux Installation only on 2nd HD
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:25:32 GMT
In article <7flb6m$c73$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ingo Krug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've got SuSE Linux 6.0 and can only make it running properly on the 2nd
>Harddisk, which is an older Quantum Bigfoot as Master on 2nd IDE, running in
>PIO4 Mode.
>The installation on the 1st Harddisk (Seagate Medalist Pro 6,5 GB, UDMA on)
>causes problems -> X doesn't want to run properly, often I get messages like
>"Segmentation fault", "BadAlloc", "Insufficient recources for operation ",
>sometimes X says goddbye with "Error 111 , Connection to Server failed "
>or sth. l. that.
>Even if the Server starts, KDE doesn't run --> not able to start any
>programs.
>Having Linux installed on the 2nd HD, none of these problems appears.
>Sounds strange, doesn't it ?
Yes.
>Anybody some idea ?
>Can it be - a conflict between my AGP-Card and the IDE-Ctrlr ?
Highly doubtful. cat /proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports. You could
swap the drives to verify this for sure.
> - a problem of the IDE-Ctrlr itself , having two HD's on
> two Ctrlr's as master an no slave in between ?
That should not be a problem. Assuming you're not running out of IRQs,
it's best to run two IDE drives this way to avoid bus contention.
> - a problem with UDMA-Mode ?
Could be. Run the Seagate in PIO mode and see if that helps. You can
either recompile the kernel with "use DMA mode by default" turned off,
or maybe twiddle something under /proc/ide
> - a memory problem ? (Damaged RAM ??)
Always a possibility, but you would expect this to show up regardless
of which HD you're using.
>I hope one of the above points matches, but I've no idea which.
>System: PII350, 64MB RAM 8ns
> Gigabyte GA686BX-Board
> ELSA Victory Erazor Lt AGP
> Adaptec 2940 AU SCSI-Ctrlr
Have you tried pulling the SCSI controller to see if it's causing
a conflict?
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From: M|S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modems
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:16:28 +0300
Brian Donaldson wrote:
> Which modems can you use on the linux redhat5.2. Were can I find a list
> of hardware
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> College email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> Home email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on http://www.redhat.com - look for "Support" section (there is a link of
the top of the page)
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From: Kieran & Hobbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Matrox Millenium MGA-G200 AGP under Redhat 5.2?
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:31:50 +1200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can someone please tell me in English what I need to do to get a Matrox
Millenium MGA-G200 AGP card to work under Redhat 5.2? I would really
appreciate it. The install program doesn't find it correctly and after
I enter in the values for the card, it still doesn't work.
Any clues, tips etc etc.
Cheers
K
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Galaxie Internet & Information System Design
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From: Raymond Miecznik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Modem recognized by minicom but not chat or dip
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:27:27 +0000
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What program are you using to start pppd ?
I use pppsetup and it works great or there is a ppp dial program in KDE also
too.
Raymond
Mark Story wrote:
> I have been trying to setup ppp but am having problems getting either chat
> or dip to recognize the modem. The modem is a Supra 288i and works fine
> with minicom. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this problem?
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<p>I use pppsetup and it works great or there is a ppp dial program in
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<p>Raymond
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From: M|S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modems
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:21:47 +0300
I'm using Diamond Supra 336i PnP (Rockwell chips) without any problems
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Will Linux does work with my Diamond supra express modem?
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:40:27 GMT
Assuming your modem isn't a winmodem then try doing a man isapnp.conf and
man setserial for some help on setting up PNP modems. As far as accessing
your win98 Fat volume you need to make sure you compiled support in your
kernel to access vfat volumes. If you already did that then you can mount
your 98 partition while in linux. Something along the lines of mount -t vfat
/dev/hda1 /mnt/c This assumes your 98 partition is on hda1 and you have a
directory under mount named c. I download linux apps all the time within
win98 and then copy them over to linux when I decide to boot into it.
> I tried loading linux on an assembled P166 mhz, 5gb machine.
> I was successful in loading upto xwindows, but couldn't configure my "56.6k
> diamond supra express modem". I am able to dial upto my ISP but couldn't not
> get the final connection. (Dialup works fine on win95 and nt).
> How can I make it work?
> It looks like I will not be able to download anything related to linux
> without the modem connection.
> Whatever I download using win98 is in the FAT volume, which LINUX doesn't
> see.
> How can I make the modem work and how can I copy between FAT volumes on the
> SAME disk to LINUX volumes?
> Any Idea? Is such thing possible?
> Thanks,
> Srini.
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From: Anton Klotz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A letter to APUS-developers
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:27:05 +0200
Hi there,
I'm not a developer, I'm only someone who is interested about Linux and
who needs it for daily work, because there are some programs which are
not available for AmigaOS. I always update my system to the newest
kernel until today. I just wanted to print something and it wasn't
possible. then I've checked out .config of the newest kernel, there was
no support for printer! So of course I had to download an older kernel
just for printing.
I understand the developers opinion that if something is reported to
work, then it can be kicked out of the kernel. I understand that a
kernel must be quite small for developing and testing. But now here is
an opinion of a "normal user". Isn't it possible to kompile let me say
one time per month a fat kernel with all drivers like for printing, for
gfx cards, for audio, network cards, SCSI cards etc for users who want
to work with their system. Fat kernel needs more memory and it takes
more speed of the CPU but we really need it. In APUS-guide is said that
kompiling isn't as easy as on Intel-systems I tried it out and it
doesn't work, so I can't simply choose the drivers I need for my system.
Therefore it is just necessary to have a kernel which includes all
drivers.
I hope there are developers who understand the problem and who can solve
it.
I'll post this message to several newsgroups in hope that a lot of
people can read it and discuss that suggestion.
Tnx for reading from Anton Klotz
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