Linux-Hardware Digest #121, Volume #10 Thu, 29 Apr 99 17:13:30 EDT
Contents:
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Anthony Ord)
Re: repartition... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux backup and DLT autoloader management ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Johan
Kullstam)
Re: making linux go away ("Christopher W. Aiken")
Re: making linux go away (Fred Uloth)
Re: Linux and BH6 (**Nick Brown)
MPU-401 Roland Sound Card Problem (Jean-Yves Levesque)
Re: How to backup 18GB web server? (Dan Poynor)
Avance logic + Sony multiscan (Leandro Farina)
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (westprog)
Hardware RAID 1 (mirroring) on Linux (Timothy McClanahan)
Re: Well supported RAID 0/1/5 Controllers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Some USR modems are MS-only, Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal modem in his linux box
? ("Cameron Spitzer")
AWE 64 pnp card installation question ("Wayne")
Re: ORB Drives under Linux (Mike Romans)
Naive Beowulf Question ("News")
8.4GB LBA blues (Rob Hall)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:22:14 GMT
On 26 Apr 1999 19:30:17 -0400, Johan Kullstam
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
<snip>
>> Johan Kullstam wrote:
>> >
>> > Tor Iver Wilhelmsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > > Yes. It's a pity, though, that you cannot name a file "Important:
>> > > read/send" for instance, because it "disallows" some characters in
>> > > file names.
>> >
>> > unix disallows that one too. you cannot have / in a filename.
>
>the problem is that we need out-of-band markers for the punctuation.
>i am not sure if '\0' is allowed in filenames either.
Can't be. It's the end of string marker.
>ms-dos (and many other operating systems) simply disallows using
>certain characters. as long as you allow most chars, this isn't such
>an awful idea.
>
>i'd suggest claiming the control chars and reserving them for system
>usage. stuff like ^D really has no place in a sane filename. i'd
>even go so far as suggest that `:' and starting a filename with `-' be
>banned as well. i am sure others will insist upon tradition and
>disagree.
Why ban colons?
Regards
Anthony
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: repartition...
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:45:36 GMT
> How about, very carefully, deleting the Windows partion, and splitting it
> into, say two partitions, formatting these as ext2. Copy /usr and /var
> onto these two partions and mount them on /var and /usr on your root
> partition.
How do you delete the windows partition? Is there a utility in linux that
will reformat just over this windows partition?
>
> Other parts of the file system may be suitable, say /home. I picked
> /usr, as it is a biggie, at least on my system.
>
> But be carefull, if you change the current linux partion whilst
> running fdisk you will most likely loose it.
>
> --
> Peter Chant
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux backup and DLT autoloader management
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:55:54 GMT
Hi all, I am running RH5.2 on a box with a Quantum DLTstor Autoloader, the
backup is done during the night using tar (portability reasons) and at the
present my backups fits in one tape. I change tape manually every day. I
would like to be able to load and unload the tapes with some commands from
the console. Is any program to manage the autoloader available for Linux ?
Thanks
F.
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: 29 Apr 1999 09:22:54 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord) wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:00:01 -0700, "Simon Cooke"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> >Or are you proposing that people ditch all their software and start from
> > >> >scratch?
> > >>
> > >> This shows the virtue of good design in the first instance.
> > >
> > >Which is all well and good in theory, especially when you're talking about a
> > >20 year old design...
> >
> > Is this where I jump in and point out the ages of various
> > OSs that were around before DOS? And which don't have this
> > problem?
>
> When was it that Unix moved from 16 character filenames to 256 character ones
> again?
it was about 10 years ago. unix was nearly 20 years old at the time.
now, unix is 30 years old and still ticking. i would say this shows
the virtue of good design in the first place and some attention to
doing things right when you do make a change.
(btw it was 14 char filenames but that's not significant.)
--
johan kullstam
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From: "Christopher W. Aiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:34:44 -0400
You might try the Linux fdisk to change the partition type back
to a dos partition. I think the fdisk command of "l" will list the
types and the "t" command will let you set the partitions back to
dos type of partition.
Fred Uloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> No offense is meant here...but if you had read the posting you were
> replying to, you woiuld have noticed "fdisk /mbr" which is the DOS/Win
> fdisk undocumented option of which you speak.
> It works great for removing LiLo, but you will still have problems
> removing the Non-DOS partition.
>
> Good Luck,
> Fred
>
> Petri Ahonen wrote:
> >
> > DOS/Win fdisk has undocumented option. It re-writes boot sector... But
it I
> > can't remember the option (like I wanted to remove linux, heh...).
> >
> > If somebody does, I would like to know it too...
> >
> > Kaufman Alex kirjoitti viestiss� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >boot from a floppy and launch "fdisk /mbr"
> > >
> > >mike mathog wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I did an install of Red Hat at one point, and now I just want it
gone.
> > >>
>
> --
> "Help Make the World a Warmer Place....Destroy a RainForest!"
> -- Prof. Uloth
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> The views expressed above are my opinion at the time I wrote the
> posting. They are subject to change at any time without prior written
> notice. They do not necessarily express the views of my employer, my
> family, my diety, or my country. And if forced to I will deny that it
> was me who typed the words in the first place.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: Fred Uloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:39:55 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I did the fdisk thing it was because I was in a hurry, had a boot
disk, and did know off hand how to reconfigure Lilo to boot into Win98.
I did this so that my wife could turn on the computer and not find
herself at a linux terminal. I later reinstalled LiLo and reconfigured
it (after consulting some documentation) and have lived happily ever
after. Maybe the guy how started this thread is in the same boat.
Just a word of advice to the RedHat developers. Have the default setup
for a work station prompt you for which OS you want as your default. It
is an option in the customized setup, but not in the default. It'd make
life easier for the newbies who are xjust trying it out for the first
time.
Fred
Andrew Comech wrote:
>
> On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 04:15:39 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >In DOS, type fdisk \MBR
>
> It's good that everybody is so experienced with removing Linux.
>
> But you got it wrong: it is `fdisk /MBR'!!
> Admit that you are faking us: you _did not_ remove Linux and probably
> are still running the damned thing!
> ;-)
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
> http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
--
"Help Make the World a Warmer Place....Destroy a RainForest!"
-- Prof. Uloth
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The views expressed above are my opinion at the time I wrote the
posting. They are subject to change at any time without prior written
notice. They do not necessarily express the views of my employer, my
family, my diety, or my country. And if forced to I will deny that it
was me who typed the words in the first place.
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and BH6
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:57:49 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At what point does it lock up ? What messages do you get ?
Have you tried putting your HD in your friends' machines (or their mobo
in your PC) to try and prove that it's the motherboard which is at fault
?
Corn wrote:
> I have a problem with the BH6 motherboard I just bought. I'm trying to
> install Linux (Debian 2.0) and the machine locks up when it loads the
> kernel. I have another machine with almost the same configuration
> (BH6+Celeron) and it works just fine. I also have friends running Linux
> on BH6 MBs flawlessly. The BIOS on my BH6 card is JJ (from 08 Feb 99). I
> went back to the store explaining my problem, and they told me that they
> won't do anything because (sic) Win98 works with the card :(
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Yves Levesque)
Subject: MPU-401 Roland Sound Card Problem
Date: 29 Apr 1999 14:56:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a real MPU-401 sound card (Roland SCC-15). I load the mpu401
driver as a module. However, all software complain there is no synth.
>From car /dev/sndstat, there is no synth device shown. Is there another
driver I need to load in order to kmake that work? By the way, I have
tried the other mpu401 driver and it does not even compile on RH 5.2
Jean-Yves.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Poynor)
Subject: Re: How to backup 18GB web server?
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:00:52 -0700
Thanks for all the great info!
Cheers,
DAN
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Meissner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Poynor) writes:
>
> > Okay, I'll bite. What kind of DAT/setup are you using to backup 24GB?
>
> Assuming 2:1 hardware compression, any DDS-3 DAT (HP, Sony, Seagate, WangDAT)
> tape drive should be able to back up close to 24G (12G non-compressed). My HP
> drive gets 80-100 meg/minute using IBM 9zx (10k rpm) disks with cpio. I
> haven't actually dumped 24G, but that is the rated value.
>
> --
> Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions
> 174 Littleton Road #3-198
> Westford, Massachusetts 01886
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: 978-692-4482
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From: Leandro Farina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Avance logic + Sony multiscan
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:44:59 -0400
Hi,
I wonder if someone could give any hints on
how to configure X windows for a PC with
an Avance Logic 2301 video card and
a Sony multiscan 200ES 17" monitor.
I tried with Red Hat 5.2 but X windows just did not
come up, after trying to run startx.
Thank you.
Please reply also to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--Leandro Farina
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From: westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:12:55 GMT
In article <7g9pdc$h78$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Ian Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Then erase those first letters and TAB will list everything. Double
> >> left-click on the one you want and right-click to drop your selection
> >> onto the command line.
> >This is fine if there are thirty files in one directory; not so good if you
> >want to find a file hidden among thousands in a lot of nested directories.
> find . -type f -print | grep -i filenamewithoutcase
> Of course, you either put this into an alias/script, or use the lazy version
> (assuming GNU find)
> find | grep -i filenamewithoutcase
This is an excellent example of why developers like Unix so much. It is fast
and compact, and it will work as expected.
It is also only suitable for a very small number of people. It is quite
intuitive for programmers, engineers and scientists; it would be
incomprehensible to artists and linguists.
J.
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From: Timothy McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hardware RAID 1 (mirroring) on Linux
Date: 29 Apr 1999 19:26:05 GMT
Hi all,
I'm wondering about RAID controllers for use with Linux.
What I'm wanting is a two-drive mirrored setup - if I get a RAID 1 controller,
is all that handled in the hardware or does Linux have to support that
controller? I was thinking about the Mylex AcceleRAID 250...
thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Well supported RAID 0/1/5 Controllers
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:58:36 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
pete demoreuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a well supported (and maybe even somewhat
> affortable) RAID level 0,1 and 5 controller for Linux? I have
> looked into the DPC entry level models, but I was wondering
> if there are any other options. Thanks,
>
Both the Mylex DAC960 and the ICP controllers are well supported under linux.
The Mylex drivers are developed by VA Research and ICP supplies their own
linux drivers.
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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Some USR modems are MS-only, Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal modem in his
linux box ?
Date: 29 Apr 1999 16:05:43 GMT
In article <7g93hb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jan Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a few USR 56k internal PnP's in som fax servers.. works flawlessly.
>
>
Be careful which model of USR modem you get for use with Linux.
Some work well, but others are useless "Winmodems."
3Com does not release the necessary information to make it possible
to write a Linux driver, even if you wanted to, and these modems cannot
be used with any non-Microsoft OS.
It would be good if 3Com would label its retail packaging clearly,
so we could know at point-of-sale which modems in its product line are
Microsoft-only.
Cameron
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From: "Wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AWE 64 pnp card installation question
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:33:52 GMT
I'm having problems installing my AWE 64 pnp sound card with Linux. I'm
using kernel 2.2.4 so I'm wondering if I need to use something like
isapnptools or if I can just use the pnp support that is built into the
kernel. When I compile the kernel with pnp support and loadable module
support and all the sound blaster drivers as modules I get an error when I
reboot and try to load the sound modules.
When I type "modprobe -a sound" I get the error
/lib/modules/2.2.4/misc/soundcore.o: unresolved symbol request module
soundlow: No such file or directory
sound: No such file or directory
I've also tried using isapnp tools but when I type modprobe -a sound it
doesn't do anything.
I wondering if there is a how-to out there or documentation that shows
hoe to install an AWE 64 pnp soundcard (or any other pnp card) with the
newer kernels. I know there are how-to's out there concerning the older
kernels (~2.0.-2.2) but I've read then and they do not mention the newer
kernels with pnp support.
Thanks for any suggestions
Wayne Sopko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Mike Romans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ORB Drives under Linux
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:43:11 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello all.
>
> Just a little question about the new ORB 2.2G Drive. Are they
> supported (or can you use them under Linux). I was interested in the
> IDE and SCSI versions.
>
> Thanx again,
> Kurt
Could somone please email this info to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well. I
need to know if these will work in our servers.
Mike Romans
Wolf's Communication Group
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From: "News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Naive Beowulf Question
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:37:55 -0500
Is it possible to run Beowulf on several (three or four) somewhat
dissimilar computers? I have several old computers (486 class)
that are *close* but not exactly the same.
Obviously, if it works, the bottleneck will be at the slowest
computer.
Is there anyone out there doing something similar with success?
Thanks,
Mark Swope
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From: Rob Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 8.4GB LBA blues
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:57:26 GMT
Hello all,
I'm running an AMD K6-2 400Mhz cpu on a Tyan Trinity
Motherboard with 128MB PC100 SDRAM... I was using dual 4.3GB drives,
without any problem. I recently decided to go to 8.4GB drives to solve
my space issues, and install the DOS-based drive with no problems...
However, when it came time to install the one that I would be using an
ext2 filesystem on, linux's fdisk fussed about the drive being larger
than 1024 cylinders, and refused to see the drive's LBA geometry, only
it's actual geometry. Does anyone have any idea why this happened?
Thanks a lot,
Rob
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