Linux-Hardware Digest #325, Volume #10           Tue, 25 May 99 20:13:37 EDT

Contents:
  Re: An X server for a Skywell Magic TwinPower video card?????!!!! ("Lee Sharp")
  Configure sound card give with M726 mainboard ? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DFran=E7ois?= 
MARRONNIER)
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) ("Osvaldo 
Pinali Doederlein")
  Re: new install, VERY slow... (Jan Pieter)
  Re: Eide harddisk Problem (Henrik Carlqvist)
  Re: DEC depca ethernet card recognized by Linux? ("Dave Perrow")
  Re: Internal Modem Help (Rob Clark)
  Re: Wireless keyboard works!!! (Jacek Pliszka)
  APC UPS experience (Ray Eads)
  Re: RH 6, sndconfig, sound balster 16 PnP ("CHAN Kin Poon")
  Intel EtherExpress causing Kernel Panic (Rolande)
  Re: Linux FREEZES when using net (Mark Hahn)
  linux sometimes DOES and sometimes DOESN'T power off on shutdown ("ouaou inc.")
  bizarre error ("Sven")
  Which modem to buy? (SamIam)
  Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem  and 2.2.5 ? (Michael Kalisz)
  Re: Wisecom internal modem on Linux (Walt Shekrota)

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From: "Lee Sharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An X server for a Skywell Magic TwinPower video card?????!!!!
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:20:53 GMT

Mark MORGANT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<7ie35a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Hi!
> I've installed Linux on a PC which has a TwinPower 2D/3D AGP video card
> based on a 3Dfx Voodoo2 Banshee chip, but i couldn't find the right X
server
> to use.
> Does anyone know which one i have to use?

   http://glide.xxedgexx.com/refer.html has a fairly mature Banshee driver.
 It is also used for the Voodoo 3, but is less mature.  Xi Graphics and
MetroLink may have something as well, but they will cost $$$.

                        Lee
-- 
SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is
necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then. *
Black holes are where God divided by zero. - I am speaking as an
individual, not as a representative of any company, organization or other
entity.  I am solely responsible for my words.




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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DFran=E7ois?= MARRONNIER 
Subject: Configure sound card give with M726 mainboard ?
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:28:10 +0200

I try to configure Sound Linux. 
The sound card give by windows (excuse me) is C-Media. It was give with
the Mainboard M726 with the name 3D soud pro. 

I have folowed the "Linux Sound HOWTO", without succes. 

Thank you for any help.

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From: "Osvaldo Pinali Doederlein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:00:10 +0200

westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7ieg2l$d1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>   "Osvaldo Pinali Doederlein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > <science-fiction>I think in the future we can have some kind of formal
> > specification of everything that our programs do, and operating
> > systems/runtimes/VMs/whatever will be able to verify than some binary
> There seem to be two approaches to get there - new systems like Java
> that sit on top of existing systems, and develop new ideas, and
> completely new systems built from the ground up. I think that both are
> required, as people won't accept completely new systems initially.

Well, ideally it's a two-step process - if Java succeeds taking over the
world, the next logical thing is having Java chips and OS as mainstream
platforms.  The guys using LISP-machines also had that hope, but so far Java
is being more successful.  :)

> I believe that the security found in Java bytecode can be replicated in
> native code, but only with

...black magic?  :-))

> One of the things I would love to see in the new wonder operating system
> are system APIs which propagate exceptions rather than returning status
> codes. I would also like to see the APIs in an object format rather than
> a

...disform mass of spaghetti?  :-))

I once checked some BeOS app sources, and if they didn't fool me, it seems
the OS's native API is OO.  NeXT would be another example.  WRT exceptions,
Windows NT does that since day zero -- supporting structured exceptions from
the very kernel up to user apps; C++ compilers usually map C++ exceptions to
NT kernel exceptions, and COM's HRESULT-encoded error codes can be easily
converted to these exceptions, I guess MS can have all error handling more
efficient and simple.

> > Well it seems the microkernel religion is dying, since the major OS to
> > claim
> > to do it (WinNT) has some megabytes of code running in kernel mode,
> > and Linus decided that the whole idea sucks and it's not even worth
> > paying lip service.  ;-)
> I think that the designer of a new OS could do worse than find all the
> points of commonality between NT and Linux (and there are many) and
> eliminate them from the new system.

BTW it's interesting to see that Linux is slowly evolving to become more and
more similar to things the Linux hackers criticized in the past (for
efficiency, etc.)  I have just moved to Red Hat 6.0.  My boot screen is a
clone of HPUX, my drivers are in modules, my GUI uses an ORB and chews more
memory than the rest of the OS, I have standard mechanisms to (un)install
software packages, I needed to get a new build of the JDK as the 117-v2
wouldn't run with the new glibc libraries (kinda equivalent of msvcrt) and
so on.  :)  It's easy throwing stones while your own roof is not yet
finished.

>> And we can probably get big advantage on integrating the garbage
>> collector tightly with the OS's virtual memory manager.  This is an
>> old dream, there
>> is a lot of research on paging-friendly, OS-friendly, cache-friendly
>> GC; but
>> not a lot of implementation as never before Java a GC system was
>> popular
>> enough to justify such surgery on any major (commercial) OS.  I would
>> expect
>> Sun to try that first, or maybe IBM... if the idea is good anyway; I
>> only know enough to say that the idea is cool.  ;-)
> There are a lot of system services that could be provided in this way.
> Back in the bad old days of Dos, Wordperfect and 1-2-3 and all the other
> programs had to implement their own printer drivers. Then Windows 3.0
> came along, and you just needed one driver per printer. There are dozens
> of wheels out there being reinvented every day. Garbage collection is
> just one example.

The important factor is that such technologies must become very popular to
justify their inclusion in the "core".  The good things is that modern OSen
are flexible enough to accept such things as extensions.



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From: Jan Pieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: new install, VERY slow...
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:54:36 +0200

Jeff Mitchell wrote:

> > In comp.os.linux.hardware Jeff Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > : I've just spent the weekend putting Debian 2.1 on an i386 based machine
> > : I pieced together.  The installation went extremely slowly, and running
> > : virtually anything on it is much slower than (I think) it should be.

> I got this motherboard and case for free, and was told that the bios might be
> a little flaky.  I upgraded it, however, and haven't seen any flaky behavior
> beyond this slow running.  

I also experienced the same on a 486 motherboard I got for free. When I put
more than 16MB of memory in it, the speed drops to the same speed as when I
switch the cache off in the BIOS setting. The problem goes away when I take
all memory >16MB out. Wanna give that a try? And if someone has any idea of
resolving my (and maybe your) problem, I would be very happy - I really need
some extra memory on this machine.

Jan Pieter.

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From: Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Eide harddisk Problem
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:47:44 +0200

Johann Peter Franz wrote:
> Mar 24 20:51:43 jpfhopl kernel: hda: status error: status=0x58 {
> DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
> Mar 24 20:51:43 jpfhopl kernel: hda: drive not ready for command

>  I checked the hardware connectors and everything is all right with
> them. A different OS like Win NT/95 runs stable (as far as it can),
> though Win95 analyses an error in the ide port.
> My question to You is: Is this an error of my kernel, of the harddisk
> or of the mainboard (ide controller)? What can I do to check out,
> what is wrong?

This is not an error with your kernel but a hardware problem. The most
simple and cheapest test is to replace the IDE cable. Unfortunately that
one is not so likely to cause the problem. This is more likely to be
caused by your HD, but it could also be the IDE controller.

regards Henrik
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From: "Dave Perrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: DEC depca ethernet card recognized by Linux?
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:49:33 +0100

What kind of DEPCA? is it the original 8 bit card with the mouse support or
a DE100,DE200 style card? (Look on the plate where the connector is it
should tell you there).

You need to be aware that where it goes on the bus is important, it won't
work unless it's contiguous with other cards on the bus.

I have a linux box with a DE100, DE205 and an NE2000 compatible all running
okay (kernel 2.2.2). the DE100 is irq5 io0x300 address D000 same as yours.

Georg Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7i4n8p$11g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've got an old 8 bit Ethernet card from Digital, which according to the
> FCC ID and to
> http://www.wi-inf.uni-essen.de/~schwarze/nt/karten/net13.html appears to
> be a DEC depca. Booting Linux 2.2.9 with Lance support compiled in it is
> not recognized, even when supplying lilo with ether=5,0x300,0xd000,eth0
> (those are the values jumpered according to the above web page).
> The LEDs do not light up either.
> Is there anything I could still try?
>
> --
> Georg Schwarz ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP
2.6ui)
> Institut f�r Theoretische Physik  +49 30 314-24254   FAX -21130  IRC kuroi
> Technische Universit�t Berlin            http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/



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Subject: Re: Internal Modem Help
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:18:38 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Xanatos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi everyone.
>
>    I recentlly switched from an external modem to an internal (PCI) modem.
>It's a SupraExpress 56K modem (definately not a Winmodem).  Unfortunately I

Hmmm, like this one?:
http://www.diamondmm.de/diamondde/eng/products/comm/56ipro2.htm

"Cost effective controllerless design" means it the controller functions
are in software.

If you have a different modem, what is the model number?

Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html

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From: Jacek Pliszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Wireless keyboard works!!!
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:10:40 -0700

On Tue, 25 May 1999, Jason wrote:

> If anyone with driver programming experience decides to try and make a
> driver for these "hot keys", PLEASE LET ME KNOW!  This would be a great
> addition.

Programming keys under Xwindows is easy.
Read the documentatuin.
Programs you need to know:

xev - run it , move mouse on it, press hot key to lear its hardware
keycode
xmodmap - make the mapping from hardware code to software code

Then just teach your window manager how to act when it receives
key with given software code. You may start some application
or send some keys/mouse events to running one.

Xwindows are VERY customizable.

Hope this helps,

Jacek



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From: Ray Eads <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: APC UPS experience
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:50:44 -0700


I've had some good success with the APC BackUPS PRO 420 (new one
with 6 outlets).  I'm using the apcupsd 3.5.6.  I use the 95A
cable.

The UPS runs for around 40 minutes.  The apcupsd software reports 
that I'm using about 15% of its capacity (Pentium 350, 250W, 2 
disks, no monitor). 

I've set the software to shutdown when the battery is drained to
60% of its charge.  It performs a shutdown and powers off the case
nicely.  When I restore the power, the computer boots up again. 

For my purposes, the 280VA version of the UPS may have been fine.
I erred a bit on the cautious side there.

This setup has worked nicely for me.  Thanks to the authors of the
apcupsd software!


--
Ray Eads ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "CHAN Kin Poon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: RH 6, sndconfig, sound balster 16 PnP
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:28:13 +0800

I encountered the same problem with both 5.2 and 6.0.  With 6.0 I did the
manual
configuration when sndconfig complains about the error in the conf file.
Try changing
the IRQ #.  Mine works with IRQ 7 even though Windows uses IRQ 10.  One
thing
though, the sound quality under 6.0 appears to be worse than with 5.2.
Thanks
CHAN Kin Poon (Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Dan Finn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I recently installed RedHat 6.0.  I have a sound blaster 16 PnP.  I was
> able to get this sound card to work with RedHat 5.2 using sndconfig so I
> was hoping that RH6 would work fine.  When I ran sndconfig it detected
> the card as the right card, it then told me it was going to re-write a
> couple of files, it then complains about certain lines in the
> /etc/isapnp.conf file and not knowing what to do with a certain line.  I
> tried it multiple times and even tried it with a different card and the
> same exact thing happened (it also detected that card fine).  I tried to
> install the isapnptools and sndconfig packages off my RH 5.2 cd and
> sndconfig complained that it needed two library files that I didn't
> have.  Any help would be really appreciated,
> Thanks
> Dan Finn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolande)
Subject: Intel EtherExpress causing Kernel Panic
Date: 25 May 1999 19:06:55 GMT

I am having a problem with an Intel EtherExpress card at io 0x300 and irq10.
I have lilo configured to probe for the card at startup with the statement 
" append="ether=10,0x300,eth0" " 
When the driver probes it reports EtherExpress at 0x300, unidentified address 
000000000000 it then says VFS: unable to mount root fs on 03:01 and it hangs
with a kernel panic.

I have / mounted on /dev/hda1 and the ethernet card is ISA. I had 3c905 PCI
card in this machine as well and it was doing the same thing. I thought it
was related to a PCI config problem, so I have put the "simpler" ISA card in
thinking that would help but it hasn't. The machine is a first generation 
P100 with 32meg RAM and all IDE hard drives. The machine boots fine with an 
identical kernel without the ethernet driver and /proc doesn't show any io 
or irq conflicts that could be possibly present. 

Should I not use the append statement to probe the card or should I use a reserve 
statement in lilo for the io range and irq?? Any suggestions? BTW I am 
using the 2.0.36 kernel with the slackware distribution.

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From: Mark Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux FREEZES when using net
Date: 25 May 1999 17:49:25 GMT

> rtl8139.c:v1.04 9/22/98 Donald Becker http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/

get the 1.06c driver from that site.

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From: "ouaou inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux sometimes DOES and sometimes DOESN'T power off on shutdown
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 01:15:33 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I made kernel 2.2.x power off my box on adding the -p arg to halt in the
rc file (runlevel 0 or 6). Good.
But sometimes, usually after a long uptime, the box just reboots instead
of power off. If I try again after a reboot, it works well. :/

Looks like something corrupts the machine_off() function or something
during the long uptime (a day or so).

Prior to bother the maintainer with this, I just would like to know if I
am the only unlucky or not. =)

I have an ABIT BH6 mb + celeron 333 @ 416 cpu.

Is the overclocking faulty?

I know that I must make some more tests (not overclocking, add some
printk in the kernel apm functions, ...).

-- 
ouaou! fait le ouaou.

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From: "Sven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bizarre error
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:42:38 +0200

how knows the reason?

I have a 333MHz K6-2 on a Accorp motherboard with 128 Mb RAM and 2 HD's
(IDE)...
Further win98 is installed.

I want to install LINUX 6.1 SUSE, therefore I create 3 partitions (user,
root and a swap-one).
Everything goes fine (CD-boot) till the computer wants either to create the
filesystem on the selected (prepartioned) partition or formating the
selected swap partition (130Mb).
the machine just hangs, doing nothing.
By the way: The same thing happens when I want to install an NT system:
while setting up (blue screen) the computer suddenly hangs  (not always at
the same point !!).
The installed win98 runs just fine.

DO I HAVE A HARDWARE PROBLEM? WHO CAN HELP ME !?

thanx for answering
sven




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From: SamIam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Which modem to buy?
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:38:23 -0500

I've made a switch to Linux but because my system has a 33.6 winmodem I
keep having to go back to windows to connect to the internet.  I figure
this is a good excuse to upgrade to a 56k modem.  Does anyone have any
suggestions on a good modem to buy at a good price that will work under
Linux?  I've been thinking of getting the USR faxmodem because they are
a reliable company but the price (~$120) kind of scares me away.

Thanks

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From: Michael Kalisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
hp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem  and 2.2.5 ?
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:48:19 +0200

Hello everyone

Running SuSE 6.1 on a HP Omnibook 4150 
I can use the Xircom CEM56 modem/eth10/100 card. 
With the initial setup I can load network fine, 
but the serial stuff (modem) won't work. 
But if I disable the modem part in /etc/pcmcia/config, like this:
 
 
card "Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem Card"
  version "Xircom", "*", "CEM56"
#  bind "xirc2ps_cs", "serial_cs"
  bind "serial_cs"
 
modem works just fine, but ofcourse ethernet doesn't ...

(This used to work in earlier versions of the kernel 2.0.36)

After a bit of investigating I noticed that it's an IRQ problem.
changing the with "setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 0" works....
tested all other  irq's but with no luck :-(

So my question is of course:

Has anyone managed to make this work with the  2.2.X kernel at all?

Any clues?

Thanks in advance

Michael
==========================================================
kernel: unloading PCMCIA Card Services
kernel: Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.0.9
kernel:   kernel build: 2.2.5 unknown
kernel:   options:  [pci] [cardbus]
kernel: Intel PCIC probe:
kernel:   TI 1220 PCI-to-CardBus at bus 0 slot 4, mem 0x68000000, 2
sockets
kernel:     host opts [0]: [pwr save] [serial pci & irq] [no pci irq]
[lat 64/32] [bus 32/34]
kernel:     host opts [1]: [pwr save] [serial pci & irq] [no pci irq]
[lat 64/32] [bus 35/37]
kernel:     ISA irqs (scanned) = 3,4,7,11 status change on irq 11
kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x1000-0x17ff: clean.
kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x120-0x127
0x220-0x22f 0x378-0x37f 0x388-0x38f 0x4d0-0x4d7
kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean.
cardmgr[757]: starting, version is 3.0.9
cardmgr[757]: watching 2 sockets
kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean.
cardmgr[757]: initializing socket 0
cardmgr[757]: socket 0: Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem
cardmgr[757]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.2.5/pcmcia/xirc2ps_cs.o'

kernel: xirc2ps_cs.c 1.31 1998/12/09 19:32:55 (dd9jn+kvh)
cardmgr[757]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.2.5/pcmcia/serial_cs.o'
kernel: eth0: MII link partner: 0021
kernel: eth0: media 10BaseT, silicon revision 5
kernel: eth0: Xircom: port 0x300, irq 3, hwaddr 00:10:A4:00:F9:2C
kernel: tty03 at 0x02e8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
cardmgr[757]: executing: './network start eth0'
kernel: eth0: media 10BaseT, silicon revision 5
cardmgr[757]: executing: './serial start ttyS3'
==========================================================

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From: Walt Shekrota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wisecom internal modem on Linux
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:40:19 -0400

garv wrote:

> Andrew Comech wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 23 May 1999 22:38:44 -0400, Walt Shekrota wrote:
> > >In an earlier post someone suggested checking the init string used for a
> > >
> > Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
> > http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
>
> My Wisecom 56K works fine in Linux; had to set jumpers to com2 irq3.


Worked fine on every 4 or 5 tries with &F&C1&D2 .... way too much negotiating
going on .... some kind of V90 incompatibility with my ISP. I used +MS=11 to
switch protocol and wam bam in there no stubbling. All the slowness
disappeared. I've heard of these slight but deadly incompatibilities.

BTW: Wisecom didn't even suggest anything .... they said go to my ISP..... my
ISP said who is Wisecom :)

It all boils down to 'just do it yourself'.

Thanks.
-Walt


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