Linux-Hardware Digest #337, Volume #10           Thu, 27 May 99 01:13:25 EDT

Contents:
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Ezra Sitea)
  Re: Cheap external modem ("Joshy George")
  Re: removing cooling fans--how dangerous? (Hugh Fader)
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
  ISA future domain SCSI card driver? (Kelvin Leung)
  Re: 3c509b: How to turn off PnP? (Shawn K. Quinn - NO SOLICITING)
  [Fwd: Apparent sound IRQ conflict - help!] (Jamey Sharp)
  Linux halts, but I don't know whether it is the HardDrive or the , kernel  (Orlin 
Vakarelov)
  External storage support! (wang)
  Re: Backup solution for a single linux box with about 10Gig drive. (hac)
  Re: s3 trio 3d cards ("David Wiggs")
  Re: Internal Modem Help (Alexander Skwar)
  Re: Any way to print out IRQ's being used in linux? (Allen Wong)
  Re: Any way to print out IRQ's being used in linux? (Jacek Pliszka)
  Re: Lucent WinModem-Will it work? (Andrew Comech)
  Re: Hardware requirements (Nic)
  smp multi cpu motherboards - multithreading (Paul Tait)
  support dvi (digital video interface) for flat panel? ("Joe Collard")
  Re: Dual Celeron's and SMP Performance Problems (mumford)
  BIOS settings (Allen Wong)
  Re: MCA and Linux ?!? ("Erik Akkermans")

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From: Ezra Sitea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:22:56 -0700

OS's are rebuilt everyday.  Unix (and all its variants) is the prime example of your 
"dream
scenario."  The development of multiple unixes, and shells, and GUIs, have gone 
through the
development cycle that you claim would be nice to have with all software.  Over the 
last 30
years, most unix variants are extremely stable environments, allowing users and 
companies to
tailor the sysytem to their specific requirements.

What we are left with is a highly fragmented marketplace with conflicting standards and
interfaces that supposedly adhere to common standards.  You have the open development 
model and
utter marketplace chaos.  Is it really that much better than getting all your software 
and
hardware from one vendor?  People complain about monopolies, but they usually produce 
more
stable and lasting products (MS excluded) and support for those products.  Open 
development
provides freedom to choose your own method of agonizing system administration (and 
plenty of
work for all the geeks who thrive on tweaking systems and getting everything working 
just right
(until the next bugfix comes along and wrecks subtle parts of a once stable system).  
Take your
choice, there are benefits and pitfalls with both scenarios.

BTW...
>I want major components of the OS to be developed by different vendors. The OS 
>builder will
>then have a choice of picking the best features. (say Mac Look & feel,
>Windows multitasker, Silicon Graphics' graphics engine.)

Why would you ever choose a multitasker from MS Windows?  MS had to buy the brains that
produced the VAX system, then scrapped the design and implementation of that system in 
order to
gain a bit of speed in the graphics subsystem.  NT 3.51 was, by design, much more 
stable than
NT 4.0.  Neither multitasked very well, but the 3.51 system didn't crash as often as 
4.0.  MS
never started writing true multitasking systems, they just paid for Cutler to develop 
a crude
system and then proceeded to ruin what he had delivered.  [End of rant]

Ezra


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From: "Joshy George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cheap external modem
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:51:26 +0800

Try Filand 56K Fax external modem.
I'm using it. Also note that it won't work on ttyS0, but on ttyS1 it's
alright.
This modem costs around HK$400 here in HongKong. That's almost US$52.

Joshy.
DB7654321 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Where can I get a cheap linux compatible modem (external preferred)?  I
would
> like to get one under $70 if possible.  I found a list of inexpensive
linux
> compatible stuff at http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html
and
> wondered if anyone has had any problems with the modems listed on that
site?
>
> David Bell
>
> Please don't email me just reply on the board.



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From: Hugh Fader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking
Subject: Re: removing cooling fans--how dangerous?
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 02:31:16 GMT

Clay,

Where does the 49 deg cutoff come from? Manufacturers spec? I have been
wondering because I am just getting into overclocking. No smoke yet.

Thanks.

Clay wrote:

> check internal temp thru bios setup. It shouldnt go over 49. thats when evey
> thing goes wrong.
>
> Cheers,
> Clay
> http://st2.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?goodorient+FCsVvg+wallpapernames.html
> You can get a Free Chinese Calligraphy interpretation on a Desktop
> wallpaper.....


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:14:02 -0700

On Thu, 27 May 1999 19:22:56 -0700, Ezra Sitea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>OS's are rebuilt everyday.  Unix (and all its variants) is the prime example of your 
>"dream
>scenario."  The development of multiple unixes, and shells, and GUIs, have gone 
>through the
>development cycle that you claim would be nice to have with all software.  Over the 
>last 30
>years, most unix variants are extremely stable environments, allowing users and 
>companies to
>tailor the sysytem to their specific requirements.
>
>What we are left with is a highly fragmented marketplace with conflicting standards 
>and
>interfaces that supposedly adhere to common standards.  You have the open development 
>model and

        No, they actually adhere to common standards. That is why it's
        so easy for the Oracle's of the world to support Linux. For such
        companies, a linux 'port' is pretty much a matter of a QA cycle 
        after a recompile.

        Speaking as someone who once was the person executing the QA cycle
        for the rdbms vendor (not oracle), I would rather deal with the 9
        unixen and 2 VMSen with the unified character stream based System
        Test Facility than one NT.

>utter marketplace chaos.  Is it really that much better than getting all your 
>software and
>hardware from one vendor?  People complain about monopolies, but they usually produce 
>more

        Except you don't do that with Microsoft and PC Clones. Infact, Kludge
        Clones are unique in the fact that you don't get a nice bundle from
        a single manufacturer like Atari or Apple or Sun.

>stable and lasting products (MS excluded) and support for those products.  Open 
>development
>provides freedom to choose your own method of agonizing system administration (and 
>plenty of
>work for all the geeks who thrive on tweaking systems and getting everything working 
>just right
>(until the next bugfix comes along and wrecks subtle parts of a once stable system).  
>Take your
>choice, there are benefits and pitfalls with both scenarios.

        This is far from true in actual practice. This is simply FUD
        much like the 'fragmented Unix' FUD above.

[deletia]

        In the end, common software engineering practice won't tolerate
        the construction of large tightly integrated large monolithic
        systems. Current techniques typically employed simply don't scale
        well enough.

-- 
 
      Novice end users deserve better than a               |||
        random collection of spare parts optimized        / | \
        for cost rather than ease...
         
                In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelvin Leung)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: ISA future domain SCSI card driver?
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:22:36 -0700

I got RH 5.2 with kernel 2.2.6 and it seems to me that it doesn't support
my Future domain ISA SCSI card (18x00 chipset). Any idea?

Kelvin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shawn K. Quinn - NO SOLICITING)
Subject: Re: 3c509b: How to turn off PnP?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 05:22:18 GMT

In message <7icjs4$4pa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
| Michael Gibson  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| >You should have gotten a disk with the card.  On it is a DOS
| >program called 3c5x9cfg. 
[...]
| What about for purists?  If you're going to require DOS before you can
| setup Linux, you've required MS into the equation.  Ugly, ugly.  (Not
| 3com's or Linux' fault really...)  

There does exit FreeDOS, which should be enough for what he wants to
do: <URL:http://www.freedos.org/>

Personally I'm using Caldera DR-OpenDOS for this purpose, but plan to
switch to FreeDOS soon.

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Thank you, Microsoft, and please get out of the way."
        -- Richard Stallman

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From: Jamey Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: [Fwd: Apparent sound IRQ conflict - help!]
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:14:48 -0700

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Orlin Vakarelov)
Subject: Linux halts, but I don't know whether it is the HardDrive or the , kernel 
Date: 26 May 99 22:36:55 GMT

My Linux halts every so often by itself - I try to login and I don't get
to the password - I can ping to it from the LAN, however. After I reboot
everything is fine. It happens every other day or so. The machine is
always running. I don't know whether such a behaviour is due to problem 
wth the harddrive or with the kernal. The log shows the following massege
(including the boot sequence):

************************* BOOT *************************
May 21 15:49:06 golem syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg
started.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Loaded 3314 symbols from
/usr/src/linux/System.map.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.0.36.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Loaded 22 symbols from 3 modules.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Memory: sized by int13 0e801h
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.1
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel:     Virtual Wire compatibility mode.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: OEM ID: INTEL    Product ID: 440LX
APIC at: 0xFEE00000
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Processor #0 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Processor #1 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC00000.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Processors: 2
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Console: 16 point font, 400 scans 
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual
console (max 63)
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory
structure at 0x000fdb60
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory
entry at 0xfdb70
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry
at 0xfdb91
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Probing PCI hardware.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: bigphysarea: Allocated 1204 pages at
0x003a4000.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 299.01
BogoMIPS
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Memory: 122128k/130048k available (648k
kernel code, 384k reserved, 6888k data)
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035
for Linux 2.0
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux
NET3.035.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP
for NET3.034
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using
exception 16 error reporting.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Linux version 2.0.36
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #4 Tue Feb $
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Booting processor 1 stack 00002000:
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 299.01 BogoMIPS
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Total of 2 processors activated (598.02
BogoMIPS).
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial
options enabled
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of
4096K size
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: loop: registered device at major 7
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0
function 57
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel:     ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel:     ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: hda: Maxtor 90288D2, 2747MB w/256kB Cache,
CHS=697/128/63, UDMA
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Partition check:
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel:  hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 >
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
readonly.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Adding Swap: 124956k swap-space (priority
-1)
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Rocketport device driver module, version
1.12, 9-Sep-96
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: Rocketport controller #0 found at 0x180, 1
AIOPs
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: 0 PCI boards found
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: ACCESS.bus host controller module for CATC
A.b125i
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: abusk.c: 0.9.2 Oct 24, 1997 Tyson Sawyer,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: abus found CATC card at 0x250, using IRQ 11
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: tulip.c:v0.89H 5/23/98
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: eth0: Digital DC21041 Tulip at 0xec80, 21041
mode, 00 c0 f0 14 15 be, IRQ 5.
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: eth0:21041 Media information at 30, default
media 0800 (Autosense).
May 21 15:49:06 golem kernel: eth0:  21041 media #0, 10baseT.
May 21 15:49:06 golem last message repeated 2 times
May 21 15:49:07 golem mountd[307]: unable to register (mountd, 1, udp).
May 21 15:49:07 golem nfsd[315]: unable to register (nfsd, 2, udp).
May 21 15:49:21 golem PAM_pwdb[334]: (login) session opened for user orlin
by (uid=0)
May 21 15:49:21 golem login[334]: LOGIN ON tty1 BY orlin
May 21 15:51:02 golem PAM_pwdb[334]: (login) session closed for user orlin

*********************** PROBLEM ********************

May 21 16:05:41 golem /home/bee/bin/abusd:    abusd.c: 1153:
abusdRead(): Warn: bad device id 0x50
May 21 16:05:41 golem /home/bee/bin/abusd:    abusd.c: 1153:
abusdRead(): Warn: bad device id 0x50
May 21 16:09:33 golem kernel: hda: unexpected_intr: status=0x80 { Busy }
May 21 16:09:33 golem kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0x80 { Busy }   
May 21 16:09:33 golem kernel: hda: disabled DMA
May 21 16:09:33 golem kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
May 21 16:09:35 golem kernel: ide0: reset: success
May 21 16:09:35 golem kernel: hda: status error: status=0x00 { }
May 21 16:09:35 golem kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
May 21 16:09:35 golem kernel: hda: status error: status=0x00 { }


This continues for a long time.


Thank you vary much for you attention.
Orlin Vakarelov


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From: wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: External storage support!
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:14:38 -0400

I am going to install an external SCSI hard driver, any suggestion
on the products?

Thanks in advance!

-Ju


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From: hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backup solution for a single linux box with about 10Gig drive.
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 03:48:12 GMT

Carl Fink wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 26 May 1999 13:43:40 GMT killbill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I love having a CDRW drive... definately one of the coolest peripherals
> >I have gotten in a long time.  The windows support (via adaptec tools)
> >is outstanding as well.
> 
> I've been thinking about backup tools myself, and one other advantage
> of using CD-ROM compatible backups:  if your system dies completely,
> almost any computer you have access to can read the backup.  If you
> get a tape drive, you might have to buy *another* tape drive to read
> the backups if your system fails catastrophically enough (e.g.
> lightning strike or fire).

I use a combined strategy.

1) CD writer for archives - things that I want to keep forever.

2) SCSI tape for backups - temporary storage, used to recover from
hardware failure or operator error.

By using both the Rock Ridge and Joliet extensions to ISO9660, my
archives can be read almost anywhere.

Portability is less of an issue with backups, but using popular formats
and SCSI drives helps.  Buying used, I picked up both an antique Archive
QIC drive and an Exabyte 8200 8mm drive for reasonable prices.  Both
were used by Sun and other vendors, and are very common in Unix shops. 
So are DAT drives.  Older models of commercial quality gear may not cut
it for today's business use, but they are far, far better than most of
the consumer level crap.

-- 
Howard Christeller  Irvine, CA   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "David Wiggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: s3 trio 3d cards
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:20:34 -0400

Actually, you can get it to work better using a "Frame Buffer" device.  But
you REALLY want it to go throught the pain of upgrading and installing the
frame buffer device.  I did it and it wasn't pretty.  I don't even remember
exactly how to do it.

hint: search the Internet using the keyword "banshee chipset under Linux"

Good Luck

Dave
Arvid Walter wrote in message <7igjvp$mgs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>ersin gen�t�rk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: hi ! anyone knows any servers for s3 trio 3d cards ? It sucx running in
vga
>: mode.
>
>hi,
>
>  actually you have to get a commertial solution as like as accelerated X.
>
>sorry.
>
>
>live long and prosper,
>  asa.
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From: Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internal Modem Help
Date: 26 May 1999 22:30:58 GMT

Xanatos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone.
>
>     I recentlly switched from an external modem to an internal (PCI) modem.

Well, where is the point in switching and wasting another precious PCI
slot ?  Besides this, I would say, that you really might me out of luck.
Most of the PCI modems are in fact Winmodems.  Get out your old modem,
and use this one.


Alexander Skwar
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From: Allen Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any way to print out IRQ's being used in linux?
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:14:56 -0700

cat /proc/interrupts


Allen
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From: Jacek Pliszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any way to print out IRQ's being used in linux?
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:13:08 -0700

On Wed, 26 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Any way to print out IRQ's being used in linux?

cat /proc/interrupts

Plug-and-Play-HOWTO 
on CD-ROM: /doc
on HDD: /usr/doc
on WWW: www.linux.org

HTH,

Jacek



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Re: Lucent WinModem-Will it work?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 May 1999 19:15:46 -0500

On Wed, 26 May 1999 17:28:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I have a Lucent WinModem. It currently works under Win98, but I am
>
>   No WindModem under any exception will work under Linux, so I'm
>afraid you're out of luck.  To avoid all the confusion, just get an
>external one.  They are, by definition, non-WinModems.

Hi Greg H,

this is no longer true -- external modems with USB interfaces
are around here... They do not work so far (even assuming that
some of them have firmware controllers and thus are not _true winmodems_).

Best,
a.


-- 
Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem

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From: Nic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Hardware requirements
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:16:06 +1200

John Giddings wrote:
> 
> I was looking into buying and putting linux on a laptop 486/100 along
> with a dos operating system. I have a 350MB hard drive. Today I read in
> computer world magazine that linux(in general) needs at least a Pentium
> 166, 48 MB of RAM and 500MB of hard storage. Is this true? If not what
> are the requirements?

If you're wanting to run a resonably complex X setup, those aren't
unresonable specs. It can run on far smaller machines though -- the
smallest machine I've ever run it on is a 386sx16 with 6MB RAM and no
hard drive (booting over the network). Some friends of mine have a
486dx4-100 with 20MB RAM handling email and web serving for several
domains, and about 30 shell accounts. These are both done with the
Debian 2.1 distribution, which can be fit into 20-30MB disk if you only
want a minimal featureset.

I used to run X on a 486dx50/20MB machine, with about 500MB disk. I
could have saved lots of disk space if I'd known about all the stuff I
never use, and removed it ;-)

The only reason I upgraded was to be able to play MP3's in real-time ;-)

Regards,
        Nic.

-- Nic B. -- email "sky" at "wibble dot net" --
-- UN*X Programmer, IHUG (NZ) Ltd. ------------
-- #include <stddisclaimer.h> -----------------

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From: Paul Tait <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: smp multi cpu motherboards - multithreading
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:47:59 +0800

I'm looking for a cheap or the cheapest motherboard that takes dual
cpu's. I want to do some multithreaded programming on a real smp machine
so speed or onboard SCSI don't really matter. The cheapest I've seen is
an Epox board. What things do I need to watch out for when building a
machine like this. I'm currently run Redhat 5.2 (soon 6.0) are any of
the other distributions better for their smp support

Thanks Paul


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From: "Joe Collard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: support dvi (digital video interface) for flat panel?
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 04:41:53 -0500

Does anybody know if there is support for dvi (digital video interface) for
flat panel monitors?  If yes what card and monitor is it for?



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Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking,csu.unix.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mumford)
Subject: Re: Dual Celeron's and SMP Performance Problems
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:39:57 GMT

A while ago, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> begot:
>In comp.os.linux.hardware Totally Lost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: Celron's with their 128K L2 cache can easily produce worse performance
>: under modest to heavy load than a single processor in an SMP system.
>
>Don't forget: PPros had only 256K L2 and everbody was just satisfied :-)

On a semi-related note, PPro's meant for normal consumption had only
256K L2 cache.  PPro's meant to go in servers could have 512K or 1MB.
These PPro's were *much* more expensive.  I think the 1MB'ers were
going for a couple of thousand dollars at one point... *just* the CPU.

I know for a fact that a particular company I worked for (who shall
remain nameless) wanted those larger-cache PPros very much.  They
were not satisfied with 256K.

-- 
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From: Allen Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BIOS settings
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:16:38 -0700

When I configure the BIOS, do I enable or disable Plug 'n Play?

Allen
-- 
Linux:  If you're not careful, you might actually learn something.

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From: "Erik Akkermans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MCA and Linux ?!?
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:19:21 +0200


[EMAIL PROTECTED] heeft geschreven in bericht
<7ic3sr$ael$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have heard that it is now possible to run Linux on a PS/2 with micro
>channel architecture. Has anyone ever attempted this installation? This
>machine of mine comes without (!) CD-ROM, has 8MB of RAM and has a
>212MB SCSI HDD. I welcome any ideas, recommendation, sites, etc.

I'm planning on doing the same thing. Here's a tip that may be helpfull:
with the slackware-distribution it's possible to do an installation with
floppy's (http://www.slackware.org). They have many different precompiled
kernels, one of those has support for MCA.

Regards, Erik


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