Linux-Hardware Digest #352, Volume #10           Fri, 28 May 99 08:13:28 EDT

Contents:
  Graphics Tablet for Linux (Erik Lins)
  problem with scsi adapter ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Creative 4224 CD-RW (Randy)
  Re: Attempted RedHat install kills HDD ("Curt")
  White adhesive band on intel P2's radiator (Georges OLIVIER)
  Re: modems and linux help NEEDED! (Rob Clark)
  Re: Will a SupraExpress 56i modem run under linux? (Jeff McWilliams)
  Re: AMD 5x86/133Mhz (Schouwen van RM)
  Re: Help with /linux/.config (Yasuyuki Saito)
  Re: new sblive driver is perfect (Matija Grabnar)
  TV card linux compatibility (also teletext) (Matija Grabnar)
  Re: fasttrak raid controler (Thomas Waldmann)
  Re: Adaptec aic7895 in redhat 6.0 (Thomas Waldmann)
  Re: Lexmark 5000 color (Steve Mowbray)
  Re: Dual Celeron's and SMP Performance Problems 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: future domain 8 bit SCSI | what if? (Jeff Martin)

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From: Erik Lins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Graphics Tablet for Linux
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:18:38 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Folks,

I would like to use some kind of graphics tablet (on which one can draw
with a kind of pen and has some button for certain actions) with linux
(especially GIMP).
Of course, a simple one, which behaves to the computer like a mouse
should work, but I would prefer using it together with my PS2 mouse and
not instead of. One possibility could be to have a PS2 mouse and a rs232
graphics tablet and to change X11 setting according to the device I want
to use at that time. More elegant would be to have both available the
whole time.
I didn't find any tablets especially for linux, but maybe someone knows
one, which works.

Thanks in advance,
ER!K

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: problem with scsi adapter
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:54:19 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi :)

I have following problem: I byed an agfa snapscan 1236s an put the
scsi-adapter, which was in the scanner packet (adaptec ava1505) in my
comp. But I can not activate the card

I have probed the two jumper settings on the card (io 140 and 340) 

If I want to load the module

"modprobe aha152x aha152x=0x340,[irq],7,0,0,0,0,0"

I get the failure:

"/lib/modules/2.2.9/scsi/aha152x.o: init_module: Device or resource
busy"

 /var/log/messages cats:

"May 28 11:35:15 obelix kernel: aha152x: invalid module argument
aha152x=0x340,9,7,0,0,0,0,0
May 28 11:35:15 obelix kernel: scsi : 0 hosts. "

I have probed all irqs - all the same, and the same with the two
io-adresses.

I use SuSE 6.1 and kernel version 2.2.9

would be happy, if someone can help me

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From: Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Creative 4224 CD-RW
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 05:01:13 -0500

Antbody using this drive in Linux.  I am thinking about buying
one but have not seen it listed as supported. Thanks in advance.
Randy.

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Reply-To: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Attempted RedHat install kills HDD
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 05:02:20 -0500


Robert C McDougle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7ijmgg$jve$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thanks for your response...
>
> Unfortunately, part of my problem is that I can no longer even boot from a
> floppy.  I haven't tried booting from the CD, but it seems that I should
be
> able to boot from a DOS boot disk...???
>

This is usually controlled by some BIOS setting
Double check 'Boot Up Floppy Seek' is enabled.

>



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From: Georges OLIVIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware
Subject: White adhesive band on intel P2's radiator
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:12:57 +0200

Hello everybody,

I would like to know if is it normal to find an adhesive band on the radiator of an 
Intel P2.
It is the second time that I see that white band.
Is it a thermal switch or something to protect ?
What is it for ? Can I remove it ?

Thanx


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Subject: Re: modems and linux help NEEDED!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:04:34 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
nospam  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I live in the country and I have to order all my computer parts. I'm
>trying to find out want modems work with Debian 2.1 linux! I need to
>know of exact ones (makers....models if possible) I've looked everywhere
>
>and all I can find is info on "winmodems" but that doesnt help me
>Identify ones that work. :^(
>
>I have a Diamond Multimedia 56External .... I know this one doesnt work.
>
>Can anyone PLEASE tell me of ones that do?? I'd like an extrnal if
>possible......this is my last hope......

Almost any external modem should work, including your Diamond 56K
external.  If you are having problems with it, it is not because it is a
winmodem.  The list here:
  http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
has both hardware modems and software modems listed.  But don't give up on
yours unless you think it is broken.

Good luck,
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff McWilliams)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Will a SupraExpress 56i modem run under linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:10:32 GMT

Mark,

If you were able to change the modem's IRQ under Win95/98 then you've 
probably got your modem set up in ISA Plug N Play mode.  Correct?
Does the 56Ki have jumpers that you can use to force the modem
to a particular COM port and IRQ?  If not, you're going to have to
install isapnptools under Linux.  You have to use this tool to 
enable any plug and play devices under LInux and to assign appropriate
COM ports, IRQ's, etc to your ISA PnP cards.

What type of motherboard/BIOS do you have?  If you have an Award BIOS then
I've also had very good luck setting "Plug and Play OS" to NO in the BIOS.
On my systems this tells the BIOS to set up PnP devices to appropriate
COM ports, IRQ's during boot instead of letting the OS handle it.  If you 
do this and it works you should not have to use isapnptools.

Jeff

-- 
Jeff McWilliams - Advanced Development Engineer, ACE Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Schouwen van RM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD 5x86/133Mhz
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:20:25 +0200

John Hong wrote:
> 
>         Anyone running with one of these?  Anyhow, I o/c this to 160Mhz
> (4x40Mhz) and everything was going just fine until I tried recompiling
> the kernel (ended up with Sig11).  Going back to 133Mhz (4x33Mhz)

I've been running this baby at 160MHz for several years now. No problems
whatsoever! Compiling a kernel goes just fine too.

-- 
Groeten / Regards,

-=-Reinout

[ have a look at my homepage: http://www.cs.vu.nl/~rmvschou/ ]

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From: Yasuyuki Saito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with /linux/.config
Date: 28 May 1999 10:30:54 GMT

Hello.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at comp.os.linux.hardware
Allin Cottrell wrote:

$B!B(BCraig Sharpe wrote:
$B!B(B
$B!B(B> I'm in the process of installing a 250 MB zip drive but the imm driver
$B!B(B> requires a /usr/src/linux/.config
$B!B(B> but my Red Hat 5.2 version hasn't installed it onto my system.
$B!B(B> 
$B!B(B> So does anyone know where I can get .config or how to make it myself????
$B!B(B
$B!B(BThe .config file is generated when you do a "make config" in 
$B!B(B/usr/src/linux (and choose your kernel options).  There are
$B!B(Bvarious ways of doing this.  The easiest is "make xconfig" which
$B!B(Bgives you a nice tcl/tk interface to the configuration; plain
$B!B(Bold "make config" forces you into a linear set of choices with
$B!B(Bno way to backtrack if you goof up.

  And, we can use "make menuconfig" on text interface.

--
School of Information Science
JAIST, Japan Advanced Institute of Science and Technology
Address:  1-1 Asahidai Tatsunokuchi Nomi Ishikawa, 923-1292, JAPAN 
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]     Yasuyuki Saito

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matija Grabnar)
Subject: Re: new sblive driver is perfect
Date: 28 May 1999 10:38:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm having exactly the same problem.  Can you tell me what kernel you are
>using?
>> I must be making some beginners mistake: both 0.1 and 0.2 refuse to load for
>> me: depmod complains about unknown symbols. (I am using kernel 2.2.5)

I am using kernel 2.2.5 that I downloaded from ftp.si.kernel.org
My setup is a debian 2.0 box. I'm starting to think I may have old 
module utilities or something....

-- 
"My name is Not Important. Not to friends. 
    But you can call me mr. Important"  - Not J. Important 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matija Grabnar)
Subject: TV card linux compatibility (also teletext)
Date: 28 May 1999 10:42:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I'm looking to buy a TV card, and obviously I want one that is 
supported by Linux. For various reasons, I also want one that can
decode teletext (close captioning? is that the same thing?) under linux.

Looking at shops here, they have ATI TV tuner (which I know is not yet
supported, so it's out), Zoltrix card, which doesn't seem to be mentioned
anywhere in connection with teletext, and AverMedia TV98.
I know AverMedia TVPhone was supported on Linux, but what about TV98?

Does anybody have any solid info on this?

I would be gratefull for anything you could tell me.
-- 
"My name is Not Important. Not to friends. 
    But you can call me mr. Important"  - Not J. Important 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Waldmann)
Subject: Re: fasttrak raid controler
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:53:50 +0200

> Does anybody know if Linux supports this EIDE raid controler?

Sorry, don't know.

But as you seem to be looking for a somewhat "inexpensive" RAID:

Did you look at Linux' software RAID ? ftp.kernel.org/.../daemons/raid/

The latest stuff is likely to be in the "alpha" directory.

You don't need a special controller for SW RAID, a standard SCSI controller
will do it, maybe you could even use EIDE (if performance is not the main
goal).

If you have a fast system (P-II/K6-2 300+ or even SMP), CPU load is no problem.

Hope that helps.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Waldmann)
Subject: Re: Adaptec aic7895 in redhat 6.0
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 01:34:51 +0200

I've a Gigabyte GA6BXDS running here. It also has a 7895 onboard dual channel
UW-SCSI and it runs without a problem (using kernel 2.2.6).

> I am using Tyan 1836DLUAN-GX motherboard.This motherboard has onboard
> adaptec's AIC-7895 scsi card.
> When I try to install Redhat 6.0 and when it came at the point where it
> scans the scsi card, it hangs there.I tried with changing motherboards but
> am having same problem.The same card works fine with Redhat 5.2.Anybody has
> any idea what the problem might be.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mowbray)
Subject: Re: Lexmark 5000 color
Date: 28 May 1999 11:45:42 GMT

In article <7hndu1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Mark Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> (I know - I probably should have bought another printer :( )
> 
> as far as I know, all Lexmark inkjets are winprinters, and Lexmark
> won't document what you bought.  that makes them officially LINUX-HOSTILE.

Not true. The Optra Color 40 and 40N inkjets do Postscript and PCL. The N
(Network) version even does LPD so you can just hook it to a network
with Linux/any other UNIX box (I'm using Solaris as well) and print to it.
You do need to run the cartridge change/alignment program from a Windows
box though :-(

-- 
Steve Mowbray, Maths Dept., Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh, Scotland
      [EMAIL PROTECTED]         http://www.ma.hw.ac.uk/~steve

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking,csu.unix.linux
Subject: Re: Dual Celeron's and SMP Performance Problems
Date: 28 May 1999 10:28:14 GMT

In comp.os.linux.hardware Totally Lost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: Ok, we'll use your numbers... $1000 system, with an additional $150
: that is 15% more, not 50% more, for that you get a 10-20% speed up,
: a very small part of the time (doesn't speed up editing, backups,
: installs, web browsing, or most other single command activities that
: we occupy our time with in front of the computer). It does however
: speed up a few tasks that some people do frequently.

My Calculation:

                     Price   SpeedUp
2xCeleron333    PC   $1150    60-80%
2xPentiumII/350 PC   $1700    70-90%

=> the Pentium-System is about 50% more in price, but only
10-20% more in speed - application depended.
At least at my benchmarks (compilation, povray) 



: I suspect that if the human wait time was more carefully analyzed
: across the spectrum of users, that reductions on Disk I/O or network
: connectivity would have have a bigger payback. For most people,
: an additional $150 spent on a faster disk subsystem would save them
: a lot more time than the meger saving of a dual processor. Or in many
: cases, simply selecting the next faster uniprocessor model which would
: shave a little off every activity, not just multi-process ones.

Speed requirements to the I/O-System are also application depended :-)

Aside the speedup of a second processor, a Dual-System is more
reactive than a single-CPU-system, as two interrupts can be serverd
at the same time.




:> : Did you try SpecWeb, NetBench, WebBench
:> : or TCP-C benchmarks which by most industry standards represent a
:> : "heavy load"?
:>
:> Not yet. Please give me the URLs for those, and i will do them.

: If you have to ask that question, I suspect you can neither afford
: them or have the skills to install and run them to get meaningful
: results.

That is what i was pointing out: those benchmarks are not
available for everyone :-(
So i can only bench what i am usualy doing :-)



:> I was talking about the Brain-Dead intel-Architecture inside
:> and outside the CPU! (Even with a MC68000/8 you can
:> stand harder real-time requirements than with an PIII/500
:> - application depended)

: I'm not that fond of IA32, it's kinda haphazard. But it's far
: from Brain-Dead.

Ok, lets say it is Semi-Brain-Dead. :-)



: I've done several Motorola hardware designs with MC68008 and MC68020
: chips myself, and worked on quite a few more. There are parts of IA32
: that are not pretty, but there is nothing to back up your absolute
: claim here. Polling both have similar latencies, the PIII/500
: is a lot faster. Interrupt latencies are a little more predicable
: with the Motorola products, but in terms of absolute margins, the
: faster external bus clock cycles of the PIII/500 wins hands down.

The PIII are faster, of course, but they are absolutly
non-deterministic - that is ok for many applications, but
for i.e. machine controll it may be totaly insufficient
(because of the unpredictabilaty).

Intel even can't give out the execution times for
assembly commands - not because they don't want to,
but because they simply don't know. they only can
give out liklyhoods! That is insufficient for some
hard-realtime applications.

Ok, 99% of the users may be satisfied, but why flooding the
earth with inferior technology?



: In the end it's not the instruction set, bus architecture,
: or glue logic that really matters, it's what the end users can see and
: do with a system.

i.e. downloading pornographics? :-)

Would you be satisfied with a steam machine in you car?



: From that perspective, Intel is at least as good, if not the hands
: down winner, at providing a usable computer into a wide range of
: computing and non-computing professionals.

Millions of flys can't be mistaken: shit has to taste well!



:> But for what i (and many others) am doing at home, the celerons
:> are the better choice!

: That's every buyers choice to make for themselves ... and hopefully
: an informed choice at that. Blanket recomendation of one particular
: techology with a total disregard to the application is folly. Hence,
: my warning that dual celerons might provide a good bang for the buck
: for certain users, but *DO* not blindly accept that they are fast
: for everyone, or even a reasonable cost/performance tradeoff for most
: people. In general, I strongly assert they are a poor choice for most
: server applications, given that for a few percent more there are better
: PII/PIII/Xeon uni/multi-processor options that can handle modest/large
: loads *MUCH* better for the buck.

I never stated that Dual Celeron is a suitable solution for
anyone. At least a Dual Xeon may also not fit the users needs ...

Thousand times: it is application depended:
i.e a dual 21264/500 is faster than an ocat PIII/500 at floating-
point applications, but little slower at integer once. It doesn't make
sense to say which is the "better" machine.



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From: Jeff Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: future domain 8 bit SCSI | what if?
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 07:54:00 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : Hi,
> : I've got an old SCSC controller. It's a 8 Bit card TMC-850 by Future
> : Domain. How is it to install under SuSE 6.0? Can anyone help?
>
> My TMC-850 is part of a sound card so it contains no BIOS so linux
> must be told exactly where it is.  My kernel version is 2.2.2.
>
> The following options must be set in the SCSI section of your kernel
> configuration to enable the driver.
>
> <*> SCSI support
>
> --- SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)
> <*> SCSI disk support
> <*> SCSI CD-ROM support
>
> SCSI low-level drivers  --->
>
> <*> Seagate ST-02 and Future Domain TMC-8xx SCSI support
>
> If your controller has no BIOS or for some reason linux can't
> autodetect it, you must add the following line to your lilo.conf and
> rerun lilo.
>
> append="tmc8xxx=0xca000,11"
>
> The address/IRQ of your TMC-850 may be different.  If you don't know
> what it is, you can get your information from windows.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What if you are trying to install Linux onto a Thinkpad 755ce using the
Future domain driver?
The CD is internal in the Dock.  I have been trying this for some time
now and all the options that are supposed to work do not. It has a 810 m
HDD, 40m RAM, and the DOCK contains the CDROM and the Networkcard (3com
etherlink). If either the NIC or the CD would go under the install
disk....I could get Linux on. (Zipslack runs but will not access the
cd....)
The MSdos mscdex will not find it either, but win95 will use it fine when
completely running...I cannot boot to it either.

What do you think? Any help?



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