Linux-Hardware Digest #357, Volume #10 Fri, 28 May 99 21:13:57 EDT
Contents:
Re: Name-brand boxes VS clones, what to buy ("Curt")
Re: RH 6 and Ultra66 ATA ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Rick Miller)
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Rick Miller)
Re: Wierd problem with SCSI tape drive. Please help! (Nitin Mule)
Re: NTFS, FAT32, ext2 multi-boot possible with Partition Magic4.0? ("RBasham")
setting up monitor Impression 3 (Jasjit Khangura)
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Jacek Pliszka)
Re: Name-brand boxes VS clones, what to buy (bryan)
Re: How do I change color depth? ("Erik Akkermans")
Re: ABit BH6: 4 PCI cards ("kryliss")
Re: Newer Zip drive doesn't work under Linux ("Dave Black")
Applevision 1710 too dim (Eric Walter)
Re: LX vs BX ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Reply-To: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Name-brand boxes VS clones, what to buy
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:11:10 -0500
Amen.
Stephen Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 28 May 1999 12:43:01 -0700, Clayton Lenderbeck
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hello All,,
> >
> >Im wondering about anyones {pos,neg}ative experiences with the
> >following list of machines that I could buy:
> >
> >packard bell synera model mu955, k62-333, (or mu850, cyrix mII-300)
> >
> >acer aspire model 1878R k62-333 (or 3060R k62-350) (or 6070R pII-350)
> >
> >ibm aptiva e5d (pII-400, 2xDVD)
> >
> >(notes)
> >i want to triple-boot,linux/winnt/other. if win98 pre-exists, does
> >it "fight" about linux/winnt coming onto the disk?
> >
> >Thanks, ahead of time, for any responses.
> >see ya!
> >
> >clayton lenderbeck
> >computer scientist/sysadmin/etc
>
> Well this original post is sure to start a flame war, but here is my
> two cents.
>
> Packard Bell, Acer, and IBM are all bad. They will work reasonably
> with the software, hardware, and OS originally installed on the box
> when it was purchased, but will be a nightmare if you want to change
> anything down the line. Go to your local clone shop/white box shop
> and get something made with industry standard parts that you can get
> replaced by any other clone shop in town. Also, odds are much better
> about getting good documentation and exactly what you want from a
> clone shop.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> -Stephen Hammond
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RH 6 and Ultra66 ATA
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:10:23 GMT
No. It simply means the drive will not be access at ultra66 speeds. All
Ultra66 drives are backward compatible to the older specs. I am
currently running RedHat 6.0 on a drive with the capability to support
Ultra66 but under Linux I currently only get Ultra33 through-put.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chris Capaci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so does this mean that i can't install any version of linux because i
have the
> ultra66??
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From: Rick Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:48:04 -0400
Daniele Bernardini wrote:
> Let ma tell you my adventures with a compaq laptop
> and the inatallation of Windows 95/98 and Suse Linux 6.0
> I'm right now using a dual boot system with 1Gb for Windows
> (just the necessary space for Diablo, Dune2000 and Baldur's gate),
> and 2.3 Gb for Linux which I use for work.
Your first problem is that it is a Compaq.
> As you know laptops come with preinstalled os (guess which).
> Since I needed two oss I repartitioned my harddrive and I started
> to install windows 98 ( I know could have used partition magic
> or fips my I like to build thing right from the ground).
Many places will sell machines preloaded w/ any OS you choose, including
Linux. They may also do dual boot machines.
> [snip]
> I tried to change the configuration back but to no avail.
> I tried to remove the drive and the controller from the system
> configuration but still no result. The only thing I could do was
> format and reinstall!
That darn Compaq!
> Now tell me why somebody keeps on saying that windows is easy to
> install?
I have had very little problems doing so (on machines other than
Compaq's)
> I say it is just bullshit. Who says this, has never installed windows
> on a non standard hardware.
Maybe you should get a standard machine? Is this for work? Tell 'em to
get you a different machine...
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From: Rick Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:51:58 -0400
Neil Cerutti wrote:
> [snip]
> > Now tell me why somebody keeps on saying that windows is easy to
> > install?
>
> Well, it *is* easier. It isn't perfect though, especially if support for
> you hardware isn't included on the version of Windows you are installing.
> When Plug-n-Play is fully supported in Linux then Windows will start
> falling behind.
Hopefully Linux does not implement PNP like MS did in Windows...
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From: Nitin Mule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wierd problem with SCSI tape drive. Please help!
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:20:45 GMT
David:
>
> Double-check your termination.
>
> If the host adapter is configured for auto-termination, try manually
> setting it. Both the high and low components of the bus should be
> terminated if you're only using one device on it.
>
Perfect. The default termination setting for the adapter was automatic. I reset
it manually to ON/ON and everything seems to be working fine now. Thank you very
much, I really appreciate it.
Nitin.
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From: "RBasham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NTFS, FAT32, ext2 multi-boot possible with Partition Magic4.0?
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:27:28 -0000
Reply-To: "RBasham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They are all toys, and you have to be smarter than your toys. :-))
and yes, I know that LILO can do just about anything (except make me a working
LS-120 boot disk!) but I already had the BootMagic before I got interested in
RH. It is much simpler to config than LILO.
Cheers.
.
DonJr <donjr@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:7ii4g8$e6v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: Why not now edit 'lilo.conf' to add a choice for: <GRIN>
: linux - default
: NT Loader { Hey, selected the wrong one for Boot Magic }
: Dos7.1 { what you call Win98, as Win98 is a WindowManger
: and not an Operating System.}
: BootMagic { go back and try again }
:
:
: Lilo can do all the above plus Boot OS/2 and/or BootManger.
: And even do it while installed in an Extended partition.
:
: RedHat 5.0 once on a new install set the default to my Ms-Dos
: partition. So when I told BootManger to boot Lilo, Lilo after 2 seconds
: booted Ms-Dos. And yes Lilo was installed in an Extended
: Partition at the time.
: Had a devil of a time getting Linux started, since that version
: doesn't offer to make a bootdisk.
:
: RBasham wrote:
: >
: > Yes, it's possible.
: >
: > LILO is installed in the extended root partition (not MBR) and only boots
Linux.
: > Win98 and WinNt are installed in separate primary partitions so that both
can't
: > be active concurrently.
: > The NT loader is set to only boot NT (can't even see the Win98 primary
: > partition).
: > Win98 partition only sees itself.
: > Boot Magic (PM 4.0) comes up first and boots Linux, Win98, or WinNT.
Depending
: > on which one you select, the next program to get control is LILO, NT loader,
or
: > Win98.
: > LILO goes to Linux (obvious), NT loader to NT (ditto), and Win98 boots
itself
: > (only it does not get too much action these days except for Quicken!).
: >
: > rexb.
: >
: > vancaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: > : I know both Win98, WinNT on FAT16 and Linux on ext2 is a possible option
for
: > : those 3 OS, but I'm wondering if it's possible to multi-boot Win98 on
FAT32,
: > : WinNT4.0 on NTFS, and Linux(Caldera OpenLinux 2.2) on ext2 partition...
: > : Would using Partition Magic4.0(and BootMagic) help me making possible? Or
: > : is it impossible?
: > :
: > : If it's possible, could you tell me how to do it?
: > :
: > : Thank you.
: > :
: > :
:
: --
: -----------------------
: Don E. Groves, Jr.
: my Email is jetnick AT erols DOT com
:
: I'll add a witty saying here later.
:
: ----------------
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From: Jasjit Khangura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setting up monitor Impression 3
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:29:54 -0700
I have a Impression 3 monitor. I don't know all the refresh rates for
this thing. Its kinda old. I searched the impression web site but they
don't have any info for this model #. could someone help me with the
setup of my monitor. Can someone tell me what they are using for the
settings. right now i am using it as a generic monitor with pretty same
settings. but i can't get anything higher that 8 bit res. help!
jes khangura
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From: Jacek Pliszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:30:52 -0700
On Fri, 28 May 1999, Rick Miller wrote:
> Your first problem is that it is a Compaq.
> > [snip]
> > I tried to change the configuration back but to no avail.
> > I tried to remove the drive and the controller from the system
> > configuration but still no result. The only thing I could do was
> > format and reinstall!
>
> That darn Compaq!
I have my second Compaq notebook and I had no problems with
Linux installation at all (do not know Windows since I don't want
to waste my hard drive so I deleted them).
First was Contura DX33 with Debian - I had only to block
part of memory in /etc/pcmcia/config to have PCMCIA working.
Now I have LTE 5300 with RH 6.0 - I have only very minor problem
with APM (I had much bigger problems with APM on Ascentia 950N).
The installation was very smooth and easy. Suspend works well.
The only problem with Compaq notebooks I can see is that they mainboards
are weak so they broke more often, but on the other hand they are cheap
and I bought mine: 12.1" 800x600x64k TFT P133 6x CD-ROM Compaq for $550
all inclusive with warranty.
Regards,
Jacek
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From: bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Name-brand boxes VS clones, what to buy
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:52:59 GMT
Stephen Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Fri, 28 May 1999 12:43:01 -0700, Clayton Lenderbeck
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Packard Bell, Acer, and IBM are all bad. They will work reasonably
: with the software, hardware, and OS originally installed on the box
: when it was purchased, but will be a nightmare if you want to change
: anything down the line. Go to your local clone shop/white box shop
: and get something made with industry standard parts that you can get
: replaced by any other clone shop in town. Also, odds are much better
: about getting good documentation and exactly what you want from a
: clone shop.
I second this. buying industry standard parts ALWAYS is less trouble in the long-run.
just decide: will YOU want to upgrade your system later on (yourself
or have someone else do it)? or will you be happy to run the os that
came with it until you retire the whole system.
for corp. america (for example), they mostly care about windows and
never change hardware around. so the drivers rarely change and aren't
an issue. but for kernel/linux hackers, we ALWAYS seem to be changing
configs and stuff. in that case, you would be wasting time and money
going with a prebuilt 'big name' box.
get an asus p2b-series MoBo (dual if you can afford it - to give you
expansion potential) and standard video, ether, sound (etc) cards.
read the hardware HOWTOs to be sure before buying.
oh, and never buy anything with the prefix WIN in it. its sure to be
proprietary and ugly to deal with.
--
Bryan
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From: "Erik Akkermans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: How do I change color depth?
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 01:02:40 +0200
vancaf wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm running Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 and Netscape has "black&white" problem.
>People told me it was caused by 24bit color depth. How can I change color
>depth to 16bit in KDE or in Linux terminal?
Either start Xwindows with:
startx -- -bpp 16
or add the following in the Screen section in your /etc/XF86Config :
DefaultColorDepth 16
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From: "kryliss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit
Subject: Re: ABit BH6: 4 PCI cards
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 18:49:06 -0500
Reply-To: "kryliss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Try turning off VGA pallet snooping... and also set the board to non plug
and play OS.
Roland Olsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I have big problems when trying to plug in 3 PCI network cards (3Com
> 3C905TX) and one Matrox Mystique PCI card onto an ABit BH6 motherboard.
> Info: BIOS version 4.51PG (2A69KA1E), Redhat Linux 6.0 (kernel 2.2.5),
> Celeron 333A, 128Mb RAM.
>
> The BIOS just won't POST with this configuration. I have tried to move
> the cards around between slots but have had no luck. I have found only
> one configuration that makes it POST after resetting a few times (it
> crashed after a few seconds when booting Linux):
>
> [AGP empty]
> 1: Matrox Mystique
> 2: 3C905TX
> 3: 3C905TX
> 4: [empty]
> 5: 3C905TX
>
> However, if I remove one network card, it boots up without problems. I
> have also tried to use an AGP-based video card and it seems to work as
> well. Too bad I can't use that video card (not supported in Linux).
>
> I have disabled the second serial port and the parallel port in the BIOS
> to maybe free up some IRQs but it looks the same... :(
>
> Does anyone know how I am supposed fix this?
>
> Regards,
> /Roland
> --
> Roland Olsson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tel: 0709-322 055
> Crepido Systems AB - http://www.crepido.com
> Box 6131 - Bes�k: V�stra Hamngatan 8
> 400 60 G�teborg - Tel: 031-7432 711
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From: "Dave Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newer Zip drive doesn't work under Linux
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:38:19 -0500
Richard Bumby wrote in message <7imopn$n2e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>"Dave Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>I recently purchased another parallel port Zip drive and discovered that
it
>>will not work under Linux but works fine in Windows and DOS.
>
>>My older (about 1 1/2 years old) Zip drive works fine under Linux or
Windows
>>on the same computer.
>
>>I've tried the 2.0.36 and 2.2.5 kernal with the same results.
>
>>Any ideas?
>
>I have seen the claim that all new parallel port Zip drives require
>the same driver as the ZipMinus (which Iomega tries to call ZipPlus).
>To make it work in linux, you need the imm module. If not part of
>your distribution, it should be easy to find from the main linux
>sites. To use it, you need to be sure that nothing else (like your
>printer) is claiming the port. I found the driver easily, but have
>never used it since I had put the printer in the kernel and was
>looking for a *better* reason to recompile the kernel.
>
>--
>R. T. Bumby ** Rutgers Math || Amer. Math. Monthly Problems Editor
1992--1996
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ||
>Telephone: [USA] 732-445-0277 (full-time message line) FAX 732-445-5530
Thanks Richard, that worked.
'modprobe imm' loaded the imm module as well as the needed parport,
parport_pc, and parport_probe modules. The drive came alive and now I am
able to mount it.
Now I need to figure out how to load the modules each time I boot but I
think I can figure that out. :)
Thanks again.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Walter)
Subject: Applevision 1710 too dim
Date: 29 May 1999 00:02:20 GMT
Hi,
A few of us in my research group use both Mac and PC running Linux.
We currently are switching back and forth between the two using the
same monitor (not using an a/b box, just manually switching the plug).
We find that our Applevision 1710 monitor is can get forced into
a setting (by adjusting the front panel controls) that makes it way
too dim for use. Once it is in this mode, there is nothing that
the PC can do to fix this. The only solution is to plug the
monitor back into the Mac (which still shows the dimness) and
restart the Mac. The brightness is fixed when the Applevision
control panel is loaded. Once this is done, I just plug it back
into the PC.
Is there anything that a PC running Linux can do to fix
this? Perhaps there is a piece of Linux software I am
not aware of?
We also have a standard Mac monitor and it doesn't have this
problem.
Any suggestions would be helpful,
--
Eric J. Walter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: LX vs BX
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:51:33 GMT
According to Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have a dual board LX motherboard. Should I buy 333 PIIs or can I
> overclock some celerons?
Well, your backside bus speed is going to be limited to 66 Mhz
regardless. You might be able to up the multiplier, though. Be
careful, there are some LX motherboards that don't support Celerons at
all.
> Since it is an LX chipset PC100 RAM wouldn't be better than PC66 RAM
> right?
Correct, but PC100 RAM is actually cheaper than PC66 RAM right now.
(Go figure...)
> Anyone else who has a dual LX MB what kinda config do you have?
I have a DK440LX running dual PII-333s. The DK is one of the boards
that won't run celerons, btw. I've been told that you *can* run a
cacheless Celeron if you play with the CPU voltage, but you can only
run that in a single CPU configuration.
> I got this motherboard cheap should I buy a new dual BX MB or would the
> LX be sufficient?
I choose the DK because it has dual on-board ultra-wide SCSI and
10/100 mbps ethernet. If you only need CPU speed, get an overclockable
BX board and overclock two Celeron 300As to 450 Mhz.
> I want to run kde smoothly. I will also have a dual
> boot with NT and mabey 95(for games).
KDE runs just fine on mine, as well as Win95. (Well, I installed
Win95 on the machine, anyways. I've never actually done anything with
it.)
-p.
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