Linux-Hardware Digest #391, Volume #10 Wed, 2 Jun 99 10:14:18 EDT
Contents:
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! ("Christopher Clement")
linux on a 386 lappy (Nick)
Re: Samba cannot print ("Oliver D. Bedford")
Re: RAID 1 setup ("Andreas Oppermann")
Re: FS: 3 Digital X-terminals ; $75 each (Tim Llewellyn)
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! ("Christopher Clement")
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! ("Christopher Clement")
Re: Second extended partitions!?!?! ("Andr� Malafaya Baptista")
eMachines as linux boxes (Eddie)
Re: Quickcam VC (Walt Shekrota)
3D-Engine for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
3DFX AGP Video help needed (Roger Belanger)
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From: "Christopher Clement" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 07:07:01 -0700
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:28:57 -0700, Christopher Clement
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Daniele Bernardini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> >message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [compaq Windows misadventures]
> >> configuration but still no result. The only thing I could do was
> >> format and reinstall!
> >> Now tell me why somebody keeps on saying that windows is easy to
> >> install?
> >> I say it is just bullshit. Who says this, has never installed windows
> >> on a non standard hardware.
> >
> >
> >Ugh. I have reinstalled Linux about 10 times just to get the damn thing
to
> >work with my video card that wasn't on the Red Hat list. And you are
> >whining about "non > No, just unlucky. Windows will be more than happy to
put you
> through all sorts of OS installation and hardware upgrade
> pain.
Unlucky? Uh....give comp.os.linux.x a visit and then come back and tell me
how "unlucky" I am. You will find a virtual plethora of "unlucky" souls
> >making progress, but it ain't there yet.
>
> The real catch is that neither is Windows.
But is still far ahead of Linux in ease and useability.
Know enough to ensure
> that Windows 'reliability' won't catch up with you and you're
> more than knowledgable enough to deal with any of the other PC
> OSes (not just Linux)standard hardware"
Ugh. I wish that were true. Linux reliability ends at the command line.
Don't get me wrong. I wish I could delete this FAT32 partition off my drive
forever and run Gnome and KDE all day, but the GUI just isn't there.
Chris
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From: Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux on a 386 lappy
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:38:35 +1000
i just got myself an old 386 laptop for free , its a compaq with 120 meg
hd & a mono lcd screen..
It would be nice to get linux (any distribution) going on it, maybe run
x with it?
am i dreaming? what can i do with it besides use it as a foot stool
(probably alot more useful then running windows on it)
Nick
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From: "Oliver D. Bedford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.admin,hk.comp.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Samba cannot print
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:35:45 +0200
> [printers]
> comment = All Printers
> path = /var/spool/samba
> print ok = Yes
> browseable = No
I have something like
# Set public = yes to allow user 'guest account' to print
guest ok = yes
in my smb.conf (guest ok = public).
In any case /var/log/samba/* (or equivalent) should contain more info.
Oliver
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From: "Andreas Oppermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: RAID 1 setup
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:19:40 +0200
Al Nios schrieb in Nachricht <7j0tit$5u5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm trying to implement a RAID 1 (software) using linux 2.2.5 - I've read
>all the relevant FAQs.
>I've created two partitions /usr and /usr2 on different disks and would
like
>to mirror them. When I follow the instructions (mkraid /dev/md0) in the new
>software FAQ, I get a "device is busy" error and I cannot umount the
>partition. If there a way (and is it a good idea) to create the raid before
>the devices are mounted?
>
>Any help on this matter would be grealtly appreciated.
>
>Al Nios
>
I�ve got this error message too. Try this:
- Edit config file in /etc/raid1.conf
- Unmount the partitions you want to use in the raid array
- Make the array: mkraid /etc/raid1.conf
- mdadd /dev/md0 /dev/hda4 /dev/hdc4
(note: hda4 and hdc4 are samples!)
- mdrun -p1 /dev/md0
- Make the filesystem: mke2fs /dev/md0
- mount the new raid filesystem: mount /dev/md0 /mnt
- at this point you should have the new raid filesystem
- for the first time don�t forget to manually unmount
and stop the raid.
umount /mnt
mdstop /dev/md0
Andreas Oppermann
The software raid of linux is a very nice thing. Thanks
to all develpers.
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From: Tim Llewellyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec,misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: FS: 3 Digital X-terminals ; $75 each
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:15:06 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kent Rankin wrote:
> The units are located in Knoxville, TN, 37922-3449.
>
> They are as follows:
>
> (2) Digital VXT2000 $75 each
> 4MB RAM
>
Don't you need an infoserver for paging with a VXT2000 unless you stuff more
RAM
(10 mbyte springs to mind) in it?
--
Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS System Manager, Remarcs Project
MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.
Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of
MedAS or the BBC.
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From: "Christopher Clement" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 07:18:35 -0700
How do you make a new boot disk???? Uh..start, settings, Control Panel,
Add/Remove Programs, Windows Startup Disk tab, Create Disk, insert floppy,
done. Or better yet, My Computer, insert floppy, right click on A:, check
copy system files, start, done. Or...in DOS, format a:/s.
Chris
James Stafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just upgraded my Linux hardware which was quite a painless process. I
added
> a new SCSI card and hard drive. Since I was using a older SCSI controller
for
> my Windows box I decided to put the old PCI SCSI card from my Linux box on
the
> Windows box. In linux all I have to do is make a new boot disk for the New
> SCSI card. In Windows how do you make a new boot disk? It took me days of
> copying files from the CDROM to the hard drive (Windows won't let you use
your
> CDROM drive in safe mode, how stupid!!! How is one supposed to load
drivers to
> fix problems!?!) I finally got Windows running. In the meantime I was
surfing
> the web downloading and installing new programs and updates with my Linux
box.
> I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't know how MS has fooled
> everyone into using their piece of crap OS.
>
> Just my 2 pennies,
>
> jamess
>
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From: "Christopher Clement" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 06:46:14 -0700
Daniele Bernardini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Christopher Clement wrote:
>
> > Ugh. I have reinstalled Linux about 10 times just to get the damn thing
to
> > work with my video card that wasn't on the Red Hat list. And you are
> > whining about "non standard hardware"???? I think Linux is definitely
the
> > OS of the future, but anyone that remotely thinks that it is anywhere
as
> > easy to install and configure as Windows is absolutely nuts. Linux is
> > making progress, but it ain't there yet.
> >
> > Chris
> Ahain and again,
> What you have with Linux ( apart from reliability and stability)
> is documentation.
Documentation? I thought we were talking about ease of installation. And
the reliability and stability of Linux was gone when I added a GUI. Of
course, the good Windows Managers are relatively new and the bugs are being
worked out.
The problem is that many people want to install
> Linux without reading any HOWTO file. For video cards you should
> know what chipset your card has and then have a look at the
> documentation at www.xfree86.org .
And then find the correct rpm to download, or find the right text file to
edit, but you have no idea where to find XF86Config, so you hound people in
newsgroups to give you a hand, and then finally you get to your pretty
little screen and then begin the nightmare of trying to configure PPP.
Sorry, but I have installed Windows on hundreds of machines without problem
unless it was due to bad hardware.
> If something does not work with windows either you are good
> enough at guessing or you have to give up!
Not true. Because for what Linux has in documentation, the Windows world
has in support. I can call Microsoft, Gateway (since I own one), or any of
the manufacturers of PC parts for assistance when I have a problem.
Although Microsoft support is extremely time limited, they actually have
online documentation equal, if not better, than Linux. Try their
knowledgebase or online TechNet with advanced search capabilities and
compare that to the hours you will do hunting around newsgroups, HOWTOs, and
various web sites for answers.
Let me be clear. I am not bashing Linux in any way. I don't mind going to
all the effort to get Linux to work. I enjoy the challenge. But most folks
don't want a challenge, they want a reliable computer that is easy to
understand. Linux is not for them. Windows is FAR from perfect, but it is
still the best around for the consumer.
Chris
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From: "Andr� Malafaya Baptista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Second extended partitions!?!?!
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:54:12 +0100
I had this problem too when I first installed Linux.
I allocated 700Megs for Linux and installed it there (RedHat), formatted and
then I realised that the partition was 2.5Gigs long!!!!
Linux had erased my Windows Extended partition.
I ran fdisk and I got 1Primary DOS partition and *2* Extended partitions.
What I found out later:
- I fdisk'ed the HDD for the first time (when I bought it) with the mode set
to NORMAL in the BIOS. Later I switched to LBA mode. What happened was that
the end of a cylinder in NORMAL was not the end of a cylinder in LBA mode.
So my partitions ended in the middle of a cylinder which I found out later
to be *very bad* for partition management (DOS can't handle it). So, this
cylinder mixing between 2 partitions confused Linux. I had to repartition
the whole disk and start all over again.
HTH,
Andr�
wr23555d wrote in message <01beac2f$163a1c20$7cd979c3@toshiba>...
>Hi everyone.
>
>I'm not a linux or a hardware wizard, but do know my way around with
>computers.
>But... now I have a problem I can't solve. A few day ago I installed Linux
>on my
>computer (AMD-K6-233; Asus TX 97; 1x IBM 10.1 GB EIDE 7200 rpm; 1x Quantum
>4GB EIDE 5200 RMP) I had some free space and created an ext2 partition on
>the
>Quantum and a 32 MB swap partition on the IBM. From that point on, Linux is
>not
>able to use the swap space and DOS/Windows reports that two extended
>partitions
>exist. I used Partition Magic to see what's on (see below) and dicovered
>that the 32 MB
>swap drive suddenly appeared to look like a SECOND extended partition.
>
>My question is how to get rid of that partition (fdisk doesn't recognise or
>see it, scandisk
>reports nothing, defrag sometimes reports errors that have to be repaired
>before it can
>continue and diskdruid is also unable to handle the second ext. partition.
>
>Of course one posibility is to re-format the entire HD, but I would like to
>know if it is
>possible to solve this without removing the data on the primary and
>(official) extended
>partition (which wroks fine).
>
>Please send any comments, questions or solutions to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>***************************************************************************
*
>********************
>OUTPUT FROM PowerQuest PartitionInfo 2.0 -- Windows 95 Version
>***************************************************************************
*
>********************
>
>General System Information:
> Total Physical Memory (bytes): 167,260,160
> Used Physical Memory: (bytes): 82,771,968
> Maximum Page File Size: (bytes): 1,888,616,448
> Current Page File Size: (bytes): 57,913,344
>
>
>
>===========================================================================
=
>===============================
>Disk Geometry Information for Disk 1: 1227 Cylinders, 255 Heads, 63
>Sectors/Track
>Error #100: Partition table contains two extended partitions.
>System PartSect # Boot BCyl Head Sect FS ECyl Head Sect
> StartSect NumSects
>===========================================================================
=
>===============================
>C - WINDOWS 0 0 80 0 1 1 0B 522 254 63
> 63 8,401,932
> 0 1 00 523 0 1 0F 1023 254 63
> 8,401,995 11,309,760
>Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
>Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> Actual values are:
> 0 1 00 523 0 1 0F 1226 254 63 8401995 11309760
> 0 2 00 1023 0 1 05 1023 254 63
>19,711,755 32,130
>Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
>Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> Actual values are:
> 0 2 00 1227 0 1 05 1228 254 63 19711755 32130
>Error #107: Partition begins after end of disk.
> ucBeginCylinder (1227) must be less than 1227.
>Error #109: Partition ends after end of disk.
> ucEndCylinder (1228) must be less than 1227.
>
>
>
>===========================================================================
=
>===============================
>Partition Information for Disk 1: 9624.9 Megabytes
>Volume PartType Status Size MB PartSect # StartSect
>TotalSects UsedSects FreeSects
>===========================================================================
=
>===============================
>*:C - WINDOWS FAT32 Pri,Boot 4102.5 0 0 63
>8,401,932 8,401,932 0
> ExtendedX Pri 5522.3 0 1 8,401,995
>11,309,760 11,309,760 0
> Extended Pri 15.7 0 2 19,711,755
> 32,130 32,130 0
>
>
>===========================================================================
=
>===============================
>Boot Record for drive *: (Drive: 1, Starting Sector: 63, Type: FAT32)
>===========================================================================
=
>===============================
> 1. Jump: EB 58 90
> 2. OEM Name: MSWIN4.1
> 3. Bytes per Sector: 512
> 4. Sectors per Cluster: 8
> 5. Reserved Sectors: 32
> 6. Number of FAT's: 2
> 7. Reserved: 0x0000
> 8. Reserved: 0x0000
> 9. Media Descriptor: 0xF8
>10. Sectors per FAT: 0
>11. Sectors per Track: 63 (0x3F)
>12. Number of Heads: 255 (0xFF)
>13. Hidden Sectors: 63 (0x3F)
>14. Big Total Sectors: 8401932 (0x80340C)
>15. Big Sectors per FAT: 8197
>16. Extended Flags: 0000
>17. FS Version: 0000
>18. First Cluster of Root: 2 (0x2)
>19. FS Info Sector: 1
>20. Backup Boot Sector: 6
>21. Reserved: 000000000000000000000000
>22. Drive ID: 0x80
>23. Reserved for NT: 0x00
>24. Extended Boot Sig: 0x29
>25. Serial Number: 0x277419D1
>26. Volume Name: C - WINDOWS
>27. File System Type: FAT32
>28. Boot Signature: 0xAA55
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eddie)
Subject: eMachines as linux boxes
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:52:29 GMT
Anyone think the eMachine 333cs (Cyrix MII-333 , 32 MB Ram , Soundcard Crystal
CS 4235, ATI Rage IIc agp, 2 GIG HDD (yeah.. the only real limitation but I
can live with a 2 gig linux anyway) ) is a decent linux box that would be my
secondary machine? (I want to run it alongside my windows desktop which is the
powerhorse machine for me)
My question is more on the side of:
-is the cyrix MII 333 known to be CRAPPY or is it a decent CPU?
-Is the video card 'decent' enough for 1024 or 800*600 resolutions? (although
I dont plan on running a monitor on it - remote administration! =]
-could I get 'better' for cheaper somewhere else?
Thx,
Eddie
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From: Walt Shekrota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quickcam VC
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 01:10:49 -0400
David Fox wrote:
>
> Walt Shekrota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Mark Everhard wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone been able to get the Quickcam VC to work?
> >
> > No...
> >
> > There is a package supposedly in the alpha stage not yet avail by the
> > same author of package for OS2.
> > As you must know Logitech has been less than open with the specification
> > for these. Hope their sales reflect their inability to play with others.
> > We can probably expect something soon. I too have one from recent market
> > dumping ..... was $30.
> > Sorry but I don't have any good news .... perhaps someone else.
>
> Is there any alternative hardware?
> --
> David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
> UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
Although I do not have one I've heard the panasonic eggcam is the
favorite. Saw one in operation at the Linux Expo here in Raleigh on a
Redhat System. Supposed to be about $100. Haven't seen them in the local
stores though.
Sooner or later the drivers will show for the Quickcam VC though. I'd
like to know where the lists are that the author spoke of in the email.
(quickcam-drivers and video4linux)
Does anyone know?
Thanks.
-Walt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 3D-Engine for Linux?
Date: 2 Jun 1999 12:40:21 GMT
Hi!
I'd like to get more familiar with programing 3D-games under Linux.
Though, I have already created may own 3D-Engine, looking at
http://cg.cs.tu-berlin.de/~ki/engines.html
i am sure, there are far better Engines avialable for linux, yet.
(534 3D-Engines World wide).
As OpenGL is IMHO to low level but fast (especialy when running
on accelerated hardware), i'd like to have a free 3D-Engine base
on OpenGL. The following may be suitable:
o Crystal Space
o Panard Vision (not GPLed, but free for non-commercial use)
o Golgatha
Which one is the best for programming 3D-Games?
(it should be posible to bind cameras to objects ,
and a collision detection is also necessary, of course.
importing objects from files would be nice, too)
Which on would you recomend?
Bernhard
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From: Roger Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3DFX AGP Video help needed
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 07:46:07 -0400
I'm trying to use Linux 5.2 and X windows with a generic 3DFX AGP video
card. The install program for XFree86 will not auto detect anything, so
I tried using the minimum configuration (VGA, low res). I was able to
startx, but the display did not seem to repaint correctly and it was
starting to smell (probably my monitor) so I stopped it.
Are there any drivers for 3DFX chipsets yet (do you think there will
be?)?
Should VGA mode work with any video card (was there something else I
overlooked?)?
Please help.
Roger
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