Linux-Hardware Digest #524, Volume #10 Fri, 18 Jun 99 16:13:34 EDT
Contents:
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Brian Hartman)
Re: scsi tape backup (Richard Bumby)
Intel N440BX (report + Boot Image) (David Potter)
Re: Sound failure (Jamie Labonte)
Promise Ultra66 and SCSI? ("Neil L")
advanced question on mkfs and use of -c (Kyle Petersen)
Re: Somebody Help! (Brian Hartman)
Re: CS4232 on Intellistaion config error? (Matt Willis)
Re: Does anybody know a ftp program support resume? (John McDonald, Jr.)
Re: cdrom mount error: kernel does not recognize /dev/hdc as a block device?
(Richard Bumby)
Re: SCSI CD-Roms - trouble (John McDonald, Jr.)
xeon 1M vs 2M L2 cache performance? (George Young)
Re: Soundblaster 128 PCI (Dr. Stephen S. Kerr)
Re: HDD upgrade problem (Mritunjay Singh)
Re: Adaptec 2940 SCSI (Henrik Carlqvist)
Re: scan disk for file systems (Randy Olinger)
Re: Somebody Help! ("Michael Vachon")
Re: Diamond modem compatability. ("ajr-5")
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From: Brian Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:54:22 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:04:19 -0400, Brian Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >"Martin A. Boegelund" wrote:
> >
> >> In article <7imhtp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> "Roberto Leibman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [deletia]
> >> And now you tell him to get drivers for this and that over the net?!?
> >> Well, one often heard reason for _not_ liking Linux, is that you might
> >> have to get special patches and other software for your specific
> >> hardware-configuration over the net. This argument is often used by MS-
> >> advocates...
> >>
> >> I'd say you just proved his point!
> [deletia]
> >Working with Linux is *much* more difficult than working with Windows for
> >an install. For one thing, Windows plug and play (while it's hardly
> >stellar) is much further along than Linux, so you don't have to manually
>
> PnP that actually works, is no further along in Windows.
> ISAPnP is a bad hack that is better left alone, even in
> Windows. For hardware that you can expect to work reliably
> in Windows (because Windows isn't doing the work) Linux
> will do just as well.
>
> >configure as much hardware. Secondly, in a Windows environment, you don't
> >have to worry about mounting and unmounting. Your drives are just
>
> One does not have to worry about doing this in the middle
> of an install either or even after the 'install'. While it
> is an issue that should be resolved, and is actually quite
> trivial to resolve, just how often to you mount media these
> days?
>
> >there. Thirdly, hardware support for Linux is way behind that for
> >Windows. Couple this with the fact that people buy hardware thinking
>
> So? This is an obvious non-reason. The 'other platforms' will
> always be behind the market gorilla. This is no good reason to
> ignore other platforms, especially if you get get done what
> you need to.
People don't (and shouldn't) buy computers or operating systems simply for what they
want to do now. They buy them thinking about what they want to do in the future. If
your OS doesn't support certain hardware well, (say, parallel port scanners) then it's
not going to be a good deal for you if you could ever see yourself needing such a
thing. If it's something that's far enough down the road that it might be supported by
then, that's another issue, but to say hardware support is a "non-issue" is kind of
disingenuous. You always want the maximum expandability in your system.
>
>
> While the knowledge to stay away from a parallel port scanner
> is somewhat of a burden, it is no more burdensome than what
> any Windows user needs to know in order not to end up with junk.
>
> >it'll be easy to set up, only to find when they switch to Linux that it's
> >designed for Windows. Linux requires a great deal more initial planning
> >before you set it up, whereas most of the problems with Windows happen
> >*after* you install it.
>
> You just need to make sure that what you have will work well with
> the new OS if you're upgrading an old machine. However, Win9x
> upgrades can be just as troubling in this respect.
That's not all you need to know to set up Linux. You also need to know how to deal
with
Disk Druid, where you want to mount what (and what a mount point is, which puts some
newbies at a loss) and how much space you need for things like a swap file. These are
all initial considerations you need to take into account. And that's just if you want
to have Linux only on your system. It's another story if you want a dual-boot between
Linux and Win9x or NT. (Incidentally, many users dual-boot, just to have access to the
kind of apps, like databases, that Linux doesn't have yet.)
My point was that most hardware is designed out-of-the-box to work with Win9x. While
this is certainly not a Microsoft virtue, it's unavoidable, and makes Windows
installation much easier for the average user.
>
>
> Besides, would you really want to reinstall Win98 every 3 months
> if you could viably avoid it? (re after install problems)
>
This last point is why I'm dual-booting between Linux and WinNT. I don't disagree with
you there. The one thing I would say, though is it's a lot harder to make changes in
Linux, especially for those migrating from Windows as I did. Little changes in your
/etc/fstab or processes that don't die gracefully on shutdown can really put you at a
loss when you start a Linux system back up. Just yesterday, I got a message on bootup
that gmd.pid had been "mysteriously murdered", at which point my system seemed to hang.
I was going to reboot and reinstall, but just for the hell of it I hit return. The
cursor moved, so I hit return again and finally got myself to a prompt. Since I knew
enough to know that pid meant a process ID, I was able to reason that pid might be a
file, and the system might boot normally if I just deleted it. I did and it did. My
point is there were no cues to tell me what was going on (although you've gotta hand it
to those developers for creative use of the language) and no feedback even to tell me
to
hit return to get to a prompt. If I had been a complete newbie, my system would have
been toast.
All that's the long way of saying that yes, Linux is more stable, but when it gets less
stable, there's not a lot of leeway for newbies.
>
> --
>
> bash: the power to toast your registry in style... |||
> / | \
>
> Seeking sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Bumby)
Subject: Re: scsi tape backup
Date: 18 Jun 1999 14:34:58 -0400
"Bryan Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>At a local computer show, I took a chance on a PCI SCSI-2 adapter board for
>my 486 system running Red Hat version 3.
>But there were absolutely no tape drives there.
>I need a tape drive that I can also use in my Windows 98 PC (I bought two
>identical boards). Any suggestions?
Tape drives aren't sold, but they are bought. Since they remind us
that computers can fail, they are usually kept hidden. However, if
you search some of the groups that collect prices on everything that
is available, you should be able to find out where you can buy one.
You should also check the ForSale groups for used drives.
>Not to pipe dreams, can I get a tape drive with the connector exposed on the
>back. Then I can run a cable from the controller to the tape drive external
>to the case. this can could be unplugged from tape drive and one from the
>Win-98 computer plugged into the tape drive.
All you need is an external case. I think you can put any drive in
one. You will find the cases, cables and terminators more expensive
than things made for the mass market, and harder to find, but SCSI
harware should serve you well.
I have a 4mm DAT tape unit in an external case. I have used it with
two generations of my home machine and with my daughter's Mac.
Different cables were required, but the drive itself worked well with
all the machines.
>Or even better, just leave them linked together to make a network via SCSI
>bus.
I think I have seen discussions of this, but you should go to the SCSI
groups for more information. You will probably need to change a
jumper on one of the cards since you cannot have two devices with the
same SCSI ID on the same bus, and the controllers are usually set to
ID#7. However you set things up, make sure that the bus is properly
terminated, and not too long.
>Thanks for your time,
>Bryan
--
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From: David Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Intel N440BX (report + Boot Image)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:10:35 -0300
Here is a report of our (good) success with Reg Hat 6 on this Intel
board.
Michael Smith wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, David Potter wrote:
>
> > RH 6 and the Intel N440BX got along fine... I'll try to get the folks
> > that did the actual install to do a brief report for
> > comp.os.linux.hardware
>
> Rh 6 is compatible. We had trouble getting it to boot after the install
> (the loop.o on the boot disk was the wrong version for the kernel they
> used, and I don't see how they could retrolink the right SCSI module into
> the kernel anyway) so we booted it from a custom kernel we compiled on
> another machine and then recompiled the kernel on the new system.
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~michael/ncrboot.img
> Linux 2.2.5 works with the on-board SCSI using the NCR53C8XX but
> SYM53C8XX in 2.2.9/10 is probably a (probably) better driver,
> (considering it's a Symbios SCSI chipset onboard). The onboard
> ethernet is an EEXPRESS_PRO100. We haven't tried SMP yet.
>
> We're not planning to use the BIOS serial option, but we will probably
> hook it up to a console server using Linux's console= option.
>
> Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jamie Labonte)
Subject: Re: Sound failure
Date: 18 Jun 1999 17:43:29 GMT
oops nevermind. I found the setup command. hehe!!!
Jamie Labonte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I tried the mixer button on my desktop and it said cannot find mixer try
> ESD. So I did run ESD and it said Esound failure.
> Why can't I run my mixer, cdplayer and other sound toys?
> "The secret to flying is knowing how to throw yourself at the ground and
> miss"- Arthur Dent
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From: "Neil L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Promise Ultra66 and SCSI?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:00:43 -0500
I think I'm in a bit over my head, but here's what I'd like to do.
I have a Gateway P166XL, 48 MB Ram, etc, that I am using as a file and print
server. I recently bought a Promise Ultra66 card, on the naive assumption
that it would work under RH6.0. After reading the mini-HOWTO, it looks like
it might not be a no-brainer after all.
Anyway, I am going to TRY to get a pair of WD 18GB Expert drives connected
to the Promise card, and then into a RAID 0 arrangement, with perhaps a
basic 1 GB drive to boot from. I also have a pair of Conner tape drives
connected to and Adaptec SCSI card.
Anybody see any major DOH!'s on the horizon? I currently have the machine
set up with RH 5.2 and a pair of antique 2.0GB hard drives on the primary
IDE controller. The SCSI works fine right now.
TIA
Neil
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From: Kyle Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: advanced question on mkfs and use of -c
Date: 18 Jun 1999 08:57:38 -0700
1) Is "-c" (map out bad blocks) any use with (E)IDE hard disks?
I read one thing that said it wasn't, because the drive does it.
I wander if the mkfs tests might be more comprehensive than the
drive's and so should be done even though it adds much time to mkfs.
2) If I've done "mkfs -c" and a day later decide I want to remake the
fs quickly without the "-c", will it map out the bad blocks from the
previous "mkfs -c", or do I HAVE to keep bad block info in a file on
some other partition and use the "-l" option?
3) Anyone know a way to non-destructively show bad block info for a
partition with an existing filesystem? (So I can try to test "2").
Thanks.
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From: Brian Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Somebody Help!
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:32:00 -0400
Michael Vachon wrote:
> I am brand new to linux and I got through the installation and when I boot
> Linux I get to the Bask prompt....but how do I RUN Linux from the prompt??
It sounds like you haven't run Xconfigurator yet. Type Xconfigurator at the
prompt, and go through the video installation process. When you finish, it
should let you run the Xserver, where you'll get to the graphical interface.
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From: Matt Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: CS4232 on Intellistaion config error?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:39:01 +0000
I think you need to allocate the buffer in the first 16mb or something.
I had this happen, too.
A quick dejanews search:
http://x27.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=474745267&CONTEXT=929727363.357302397&hitnum=2
>To make the sound driver use persistent DMA buffers we need to
>pass the sound.o module a "dmabuf=1" command-line argument.
>This is normally done in /etc/conf.modules (or the more proper
>etc/modules.conf) like so:
>
>options sound dmabuf=1
Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
>
> >> Matthias Braun writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > I have an IBM intellistation MPRO with an CS4232 onboard. I can
> > play sound for a few minutes, but then I get error messages like
>
> > SOUND: Couldn�t allocate DMS buffer or SOUND: DMA (output) timed
> > out - IRQ/DRQ config error
>
> I have the same exact problem with the same soundcard. I posted here
> recently, but no responses, unfortunately.... If you ever figure out
> the problem, please let me know.
>
> Reid
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McDonald, Jr.)
Subject: Re: Does anybody know a ftp program support resume?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:45:49 GMT
Personally I use ncftp. I find that it is an exceptional FTP program,
supporting background transfers as well as unlimited file resumes. It
also supports a new feature being offered at some sites (ftp.cdrom.com
for one) where a tarball is created and gzipped on the other end
(containing all the files you want), downloaded and ungzipped/untarred
on your end, transparently. I got ncftp from a link from
freshmeat.net.
It also supports 5-6 different kinds of firewalls, bookmarks, and a
whole slew of other cool features.
Hope this helps!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Bumby)
Subject: Re: cdrom mount error: kernel does not recognize /dev/hdc as a block device?
Date: 18 Jun 1999 13:54:53 -0400
Luke & Niki Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Your cd is a "removeable media" device, try:
>mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom
>works for me ....
>tom bergerson wrote:
>> when i try to mount (mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom) my Acer 685A
>> 8x cdrom, i get the following error:
>>
>> The kernel does not recognize /dev/hdc as a block device (maybe 'insmod
>> driver'?)
>>
>> ...
While browsing "Running linux", I saw these exact words. Among the
main causes was listed -- the drive was empty. Not that anyone here
would try to mount an empty drive:-(, but this reminds us that
something mechanical that keeps a particular CD from being read could
cause this error. The drive (or driver, or system) should not be
assumed to be at fault until it gives the same report after changing
media.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McDonald, Jr.)
Subject: Re: SCSI CD-Roms - trouble
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:34:17 GMT
On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:17:29 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PhilD) wrote:
>Also, do you have
>to have media in the drive to mount? Isn't this a pain in X when you
>have to mount every time you want to get something from a disk or CD?
FYI: I know that on SUN stations it is possible to have CDs auto-mount
upon the detection of a CD being in the drive. I would suspect that
the same functionality is available on Linux as well, although I do
not know how to set it up. (This would give the adherence of a more MS
approach, where the CD is automatically scanned when it is inserted.)
I would appreciate anyone who knows how to set up automounting to
post! (PLEASE!)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Young)
Subject: xeon 1M vs 2M L2 cache performance?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:52:55 GMT
I need to know the performance difference between the Xeon 500MHz processor
with 1Mb L2 cache vs. 2Mb L2 cache. Any specs, benchmarks, opinions, rumors,
would be *much* appreciated.
Is the bigger cache really worth the huge amount of *cash* it costs?
My intended platform:
quad Xeon 500MHz, 1Gb ram, Linux, raid5.
Use:
database(Postgresql) server and (X-Motif) application server(to W98-PC's
running exceed)
~60 interactive users, db is small(~80Mb), but snappy interactive response
is critical.
--
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MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, Massachusetts 02420-9108 (781) 981-2756
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr. Stephen S. Kerr)
Subject: Re: Soundblaster 128 PCI
Date: 18 Jun 1999 19:02:33 GMT
Ryan Masters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Should I even attempt to get this working under linux? Just need some
: insight...
Penguin Computing (http://www.penguincomputing.com) ships their machines
with this card, and they only pre-install Linux, so I suppose you should
be able to get the card going as well.
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From: Mritunjay Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,fj.comp.dev.disk,japan.comp.toshiba
Subject: Re: HDD upgrade problem
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:54:34 -0400
Firstly which exact model AST do you have? AST service is done by ARI:
http://www.ari-service.com/blender/cache/Mobile.htm
If you identify the exact model, it may be possible to get a bios fix. There's
data on the toshiba drive at
http://www.pc-disk.de/pcdisk/h/5000/4658.htm if you need it. There should be
lots of other drive models that should be physically compatible. What are your
requirements? If you get an IBM drive, you can use ontrack disk manager and if
you get a WD drive, you can use EZ-drive software.
If you've already bought the drive, and want to buy the ez-drive software, I can
buy it with my credit card and mail you the software either physically or as a
email attachment. (in fact I may have the software already, I'll get back to you
if I do).
regards
-mritunjay
Shannon Jacobs wrote:
> First, an apology for English in the two Japanese newsgroups: Sumimasen ga,
> nihongo de yoku kakemasen kara, eigo de kakimasu. Nihongo no henji mo ii
> desu. Soshite, kikai to sofuto ha zenbu nihon no mono desu yo.
>
> Sorry for the shotgun approach, but I've gotten more than a bit desperate
> after long and futile searching.
>
> Problem is with a new 2 gig HDD for an older laptop. My selection was quite
> limited--in fact, in the stores I searched, I was only able to find one that
> was physically the right size, but it didn't come with any software. It's a
> Toshiba MK-2101 MAN model. It seems to work, but most of the capacity is not
> recognized. I think a disk partition program like EZ Drive would fix it, but
> things get complicated there.
>
> Some HDD makers have versions of EZ Drive that are downloadable for their
> drives, but if Toshiba has such a arrangement, I've failed to find it
> anywhere in the English and Japanese Toshiba sites. At this point in my
> frustration I would gladly buy it from EZ Drive's home web site--the price
> is very reasonable--but I can't. No credit card. (I'll search the local
> stores next.) Also, though most people say good things about it--including
> regarding its compatibility with Linux--I wasn't able to find confirmation
> regarding this particular Toshiba drive.
>
> The machine is actually an AST, but they've farmed out the support for their
> older machines to another company, and so far no help there. Toshiba
> actually tries to avoid doing any direct support for their HDDs, since they
> sell all of them to OEMs and not to the public.
>
> I'm about out of ideas, and I surely ran out of patience a long time ago.
> Does someone out there have a useful idea? Of course, the best thing would
> be a URL for the secret Toshiba page that provides that support... But maybe
> they don't have that kind of license, and just dump the problem back on
> their OEM customers? This Linux project has been purrrty frustrating.
>
> I'd appreciate a copy of your reply via email--it's easy to miss replies
> when you're using a shotgun, and again I apologize for that desperation...
>
> --
> .sig
> Everyone's crazy save thee and I, and sometimes I wonder about thee. But I
> don't wonder about the spamnuts--they are crazy beyond all question.
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From: Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 SCSI
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:36:32 +0200
Jonathan Daves-Brody wrote:
> After installation of Linux, Lilo starts fine, but during partition
> check I get a kernel panic:
>
> Partition check:
> VFS: Cannot open root device 08:03 (NOTE: I
> checked, the device number is 8,3)
> Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root file system on 08:08
>
> I am able to boot using an emergency disk using a disk image provided
> by Turbolinux with no problems, so that I can at least mess around
> with the system.
>
> I've rebuilt the kernel several times. SCSI disk support is built in,
> I've tried it with only the AIC7xxx module, with AIC7xxx built in, as
> well as several other ways. Nothing seems to work.
Do you also have support for the ext2fs file system which I suppose your
root partition is formatted as? Is your SCSI controller detected by the
kernel at boot? Is the disc detected at boot?
> I think this is an unrelated coincidence, but I also can't get the
> NE2000 card to work. I believe that this is because the driver
> expects a PCI card and needs to be told directly that it is an ISA
> card.
Yes, it is probably unrelated. You will not be able to tell the PCI
NE2000 driver that you have an ISA card instead. There is a different
driver for ISA NE2000 which you should compile into your kernel.
regards Henrik
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From: Randy Olinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: scan disk for file systems
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:26:27 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unless the hard drive is dead, the partition table should be still
available on the 2nd computer. Just type fdisk /dev/hdb and
use the 'p' command to view the table.
Randy
Steve Feil wrote:
> I lost the hard drive label. In order to read the hard drive I put it
> in a different computer. There were only two partitions on the drive
> an ext2 and swap space. I assume that if I were to use fdisk and type
> in the correct values for the partition table that I could recover the
> ext2 file system. I was hoping that there was a program that I could
> use that would scan the /dev/dhb device to find the start of a (ext2)
> file system. I would then be able to know where the file systems
> started and stopped.
>
> Ps. Please excuse me if this is a re/cross post. I thought I posted it
> five hours ago. I could not find it anywhere.
>
> ========================================================================
> Steven Feil | Gram-pa, back at the turn of the .~.
> Programmer/Developer | century, why did people use an /V\
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | operating system, when they were not // \\
> | allowed to see the source code? (X_X)
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From: "Michael Vachon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Somebody Help!
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:06:36 GMT
Yes, I meant the BASH prompt....
But anyways I go through the login and then I get to what is like a command
prompt....I type "startx" and then the screen goes blank! Nothing else
happens! I hit CTRL+ALT+DELETE a few times and it shuts everything down and
reboots....but how do I get to the GUI Window?
Thanking you in advance,
MV
Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:06:51 GMT, "Michael Vachon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> >I am brand new to linux and I got through the installation and when I
boot
> >Linux I get to the Bask prompt....but how do I RUN Linux from the
prompt??
>
> If by "the Bask prompt", you mean something that says "Bask login:", then
> you are running linux.
>
> To the login: prompt, reply a userid (root is usually the one at first)
and
> the system will then prompt for a password ( "Password: "). To this, enter
> the password associated with the userid you selected (you were probably
> asked for a password as part of the installation; it was root's password,
> and it should be entered here).
>
> Assuming that you get past the login/password prompts, you'll be deposited
> to either a command prompt (like DOS) or a gui window (like Windows).
>
>
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> Lew Pitcher
> System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
> Toronto Dominion Bank
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> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: "ajr-5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diamond modem compatability.
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:17:09 -0700
I have a diamond Supra express modem and absolutely love it! I have only
used it in Windowz so far, I haven't tried it in Linux yet. My next modem
will be another diamond as well. Good luck! :)
Darren Johns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am looking at getting a new 56K modem, and from what I can see the
> Diamond SupraExpress 56 ones look quite good. I would like to hear from
> anyone who has got any experience/problems etc. with any of the
> 56, 56 Pro, or 56 Memory modems by Diamond (internal or external).
> I run Redhat 5.2, but will be moving to RH6 (probably) soon.
>
> BTW Does anyone know if it is possible to get an external WinModem?
>
>
> Thanks, Mark.
>
> P.S. If you haven't got one of the above modems I don't want to hear any
> general 'Diamond are rubbish' type of messages.
> --
> | To take no action is in itself taking an action, and to have no opinion
is |
> |/-\| to have an opinion, so are we helpless in what goes on around us??
|/-\|
> |\-/|\-/|\-/|\- D Mark Johns.
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