Linux-Hardware Digest #536, Volume #10 Sun, 20 Jun 99 03:13:41 EDT
Contents:
Re: Any problems using a AMD K6 CPU? (Mike Frisch)
Re: Soundblaster midi (Jan van Stekelenburg)
Tape question (Zoltan Kocsi)
Linux-friendly SCSI HDD and CDRW? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Q (modem) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: advanced question on mkfs and use of -c (Kyle Petersen)
Re: Any problems using a AMD K6 CPU? (Mike Frisch)
Re: how to configure on board Ethernet chip? (Vidar Andresen)
Re: Any problems using a AMD K6 CPU? (Mike Frisch)
Re: Any problems using a AMD K6 CPU? (Chris Harshman)
Re: Any problems using a AMD K6 CPU? (Chris Harshman)
Re: Backup recommendations? (David E. Fox)
Re: [Q] IBM ServerRaid is it supported ?? ("Tony Platt")
rz Slow on Serial connect. ("dpc")
Re: Celeron or PII? (David E. Fox)
Re: dvd burner with linux? ("Chris Woodruff")
Re: HELP! Compaq Netflex 3/P network card ("Tony Platt")
Re: Alpha performance (reply to somebody else... forget who) (David E. Fox)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Frisch)
Subject: Re: Any problems using a AMD K6 CPU?
Date: 20 Jun 1999 00:10:02 GMT
On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 23:40:33 GMT, Alex Walker
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've come upon a deal for a motherboard and AMD K6 CPU that I'd like
>to use for a Linux box. I haven't found much on the suject in the
>hardware FAQ. Has anyone come across any problems with this CPU?
There were problems with early generation K6 233s (and perhaps slower),
but these were fixed pretty quickly. I've been running a home server on a
K6 233 for a couple of years now and have experienced 50+ day uptimes with
a moderate load (only quelled by power failures). I also run a K6-2 350
on one of my machines and it's been flawless as well.
For the money, they're an excellent CPU and a decent performer.
Mike.
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From: Jan van Stekelenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Soundblaster midi
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 02:21:29 +0200
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Michael Lawrence Jr. wrote:
->Want to know the strangest thing?
->I had some wierd error, and being a newbie i somehow managed to totally screw
->up my system,
->i lost almost everything i had, and decided it was a better idea (timewise)
->to just reinstall. I installed everything fresh and started over with the
->latest 2.3.5 kernel. I NOW HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS WITH MY SOUND
->CARD!!!!!
->i did not use anything different about the installation, i used the old
->.config but it now works perfectly.
->i am at a loss for explanation, and not suggesting this be repeated, but i
->maybe there is something different about the 2.3.5 kernel? Also i am still
->gettin the same problem with my kernel, is there somehting that i am
->forgetting to do? How do i update the Sytem.map?
->
->
Hi there,
Update your System.map by copying the new generated System.map,
There should be a `new one' waiting for you after compiling your
kernel in `/usr/src/linux' or wherever you compiled :)
Good luck,
Jan
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From: Zoltan Kocsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tape question
Date: 20 Jun 1999 11:48:45 +1000
I have an Exabyte Eagle NS8 tape drive, with some Travan tapes.
After using a tape a *little* while, when reading from the tape
I get I/O errors and /var/log/messages has the following message:
Jun 14 21:50:42 tade kernel: st0: Error with sense data: Current
error st09:00: sense key Medium Error
Jun 14 21:50:42 tade kernel: Additional sense indicates Unrecovered read error
Since I'd like to use this drive and the tapes for system backup
purposes, a tape going unusable after about 20 rewrite cycles doesn't
give me much faith ...
The tape was not mishandled, touched, dropped, magnetised, whatever.
Actually when it broke it was sitting in the drive, which read its
previous content (success), wrote new one (success) and tried to
verify it (error). The tape is completely unusable now.
Are tapes indeed that unreliable or I have bad luck with this
particular tape ?
Thanks,
Zoltan
PS: The reply address is invalid, if you send email, please find the
address in the sig.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux-friendly SCSI HDD and CDRW?
Date: 20 Jun 1999 01:11:45 GMT
Hey,
I'm looking to buy a SCSI HDD and CDR or CDRW. I'll be running Mandrake Linux
on it. Anyway, this is my first foray into the world of SCSI. Can someone
recommend a HDD/CDRW/Adaptor setup? Maybe a few options?
HDD: either 4 to 9 gigs
CDR/W: at least 4 speed write, i don't care about read.
And of course, I'm not loaded, so stuff that is inexpensive but good are
good choices for me.
Thanks,
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Ara Hacopian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Q (modem)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 01:43:44 GMT
Thanks, Rob. Today, I bought and installed an external modem that
works with Linux using the info at
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html.
The following line is from another reply to my question:
>The modem is a Winmodem. It uses a USR X2 chip set.
-Jordan
In article <doCa3.112$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark) wrote:
> In article <7keb48$s05$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I am trying to figure out whether my modem Aztech MD6802-U (AZT4029)
> >is a winmodem (ie, can I use it with Linux). I couldn't find any
> >info in the list http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html.
>
> I downloaded the drivers from
http://www.aztech.com.sg/c%26t/v90_zip.htm
> and this was in the README.TXT file:
>
> " Step 3: Upgrading:
> __________________
>
> The Winmodem can be upgraded to the latest drivers from the Web
Site or
> by the manufacturer. To upgrade, please follow below
>
> ...
>
> Things to Note
> ==============
> 1. MD6802-U can be set up on both WIN95 and WIN95(OSR2) as well as
> WIN98 but no support on WIN3.x and DOS platform."
>
> This appears to be a TI chipset winmodem, based on the drivers on the
> Aztech site. Sorry :( If you send me the FCC #, I can add it to the
> database.
>
> Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Kyle Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: advanced question on mkfs and use of -c
Date: 19 Jun 1999 19:52:57 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yves Bellefeuille) writes:
> I tried to answer by E-mail, but your address is incorrect.
>
> Please post again, using your real E-mail address. Sorry, but I'm
> against address munging. I hate spam as much as you do, but transferring
> the problem to me isn't the solution.
I feel bad that you wasted your time on my question, and I'll reconsider
my posting habits, but don't get your hopes up. I'm not sorry that I
am not against address munging and will definitely continue that. I
shouldn't have to explain the many obvious reasons. I've tried putting
something like "posts only" or "no email" or something at the bottom of
my messages, but I haven't yet come up with wording that doesn't sound
kinda rude. Perhaps leaving it out is ruder. I'll think about it.
I do think people would know better than to send mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] though. Everybody is supposed to know that "nobody"
is a user name reserved for nobody and example.{org,com,...} are
reserved for textbook examples, etc. That is, it should be obvious
that it is not a real email address.
BTW, when people ask for an e-mail response in NG messeges, I consider
THAT rude and almost never respond in any way. I don't like e-mail.
I like NGs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Frisch)
Subject: Re: Any problems using a AMD K6 CPU?
Date: 20 Jun 1999 02:21:08 GMT
On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:38:48 -0500, Chris Harshman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I was using an AMD K6-2 on a server for a while (we were testing
>it to see if it could take on the role of our aging production
>server). It crashed about once a week and occasionally scrambled
>our hard-drive. (UDMA drives on a VIA MVP3 chipset.) We're
>talking kernel panics.
Your problems were presumably due to the poor support for the MVP3 chipset
and not the actual CPU itself. The crashing was not caused by the CPU.
Mike.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vidar Andresen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: how to configure on board Ethernet chip?
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 06:32:40 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bob Berman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I believe that I need to enable support for my on board Ethernet chipset in the
>kernel somewhere. My motherboard - ASUS P2B-LS has what it says is an Intel
>82558 Ethernet 10/100 chipset. I can not find any information about how to
>enable this in the kernel (2.2.?). I selected "EISA,PCI,VLB and on board
>controllers", but none of the controllers listed below that option resemble the
>82558. How do I get this Ethernet working?
Both eepro100.c and rclanmtl.c have the number '82558' in them.
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/eepro100.html for a start.
Mvh Vidar Andresen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Frisch)
Subject: Re: Any problems using a AMD K6 CPU?
Date: 20 Jun 1999 04:36:29 GMT
On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:13:38 GMT, bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I think you had a bad one. or, it was a 66 chip and your mobo was set
>to 100.
His problems were with the motherboard the chip was on, not the chip
itself.
Mike.
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Northstar Technologies WWW: http://saturn.tlug.org/~mfrisch
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From: Chris Harshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any problems using a AMD K6 CPU?
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:46:44 -0500
Re-read the post; we tried two chips. They were 333MHz K6-2
chips, and we were running them at 66MHz x 5. Locally, all we
could find were VIA-based mainboards (San Bernardino, CA area).
Mail-order wasn't an option for a variety of reasons (school
policy being chief among them).
bryan wrote:
> : chipset mainboard with a different CPU.) We tried two retail-
> : boxed K6-2-333 chips and four different mainboards (one
> : Shuttle 591-P, two FIC VA-503+, and a DFI). No joy.
>
> did you try swapping the CHIP out?
>
> I think you had a bad one. or, it was a 66 chip and your mobo was set
> to 100.
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From: Chris Harshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any problems using a AMD K6 CPU?
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:44:12 -0500
Never said that it was. (Well, okay, re-reading the post, it
was unintentionally implied...) Rather, AMD chips are
dependent on generally flaky and usually at least slightly
incompatible Taiwanese chipsets on so-called "super7" motherboards.
Our 100MHz K5 (i430VX chipset) is the most reliable box we run.
But note the chipset supporting it...
Mike Frisch wrote:
>
> On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:38:48 -0500, Chris Harshman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I was using an AMD K6-2 on a server for a while (we were testing
> >it to see if it could take on the role of our aging production
> >server). It crashed about once a week and occasionally scrambled
> >our hard-drive. (UDMA drives on a VIA MVP3 chipset.) We're
> >talking kernel panics.
>
> Your problems were presumably due to the poor support for the MVP3 chipset
> and not the actual CPU itself. The crashing was not caused by the CPU.
>
> Mike.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Backup recommendations?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20 Jun 1999 05:23:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote:
,
>Since high volume backup solutions are expensive, and low volume ones
>are proprietary and have bad cost/benefit, my strategy is simply using
>CD-RW for backups up to around 5 GB (uncompressed).
I use tape (DAT, DDS-2, 2 gigs per 4mm tape). I got a pretty good deal
on an HP surestore DAT drive last year, and although those are still
more expensive than other tape solutions (like Travan) the tapes
themselves are a lot cheaper than tapes for most other tape drives
are ($5-6 each, as compared to as high as $50 for some tapes I've
seen). So that is also something to consider.
>If my needs exceed several CD's per backup run, I can upgrade to a 24MB
>DDS-3 drive.
At present, I only have enough disk space to fill up one 2gig cartridge
if I do a full backup, so it works out fine. If I needed more, I suppose
I could swap tapes, and I've got enough tapes presently to handle 20
gigs worth of data. But I don't think I'd want to use CD-RW either
way. Even though the media cost is attractive (.99 per CD) you can
only write once to it, and if you have a lot of data to back up, then
you just spent a lot of money on blank CDs that have realistically
little value. And, if you want to rewrite on CD's, the cost skyrockets
to approximately $20 per CD, which really isn't justifiable IMHO
concerning the amount of data that can be put on there.
>This is what I can work out for a reasonably cost/benefit balanced
>backup strategy. I'm also interested in other opinions.
>Abdullah Ramazanoglu ( aramazanoglu AT demirbank DOT com DOT tr )
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From: "Tony Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] IBM ServerRaid is it supported ??
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:53:57 +1000
Thanks for the tip
It looks like it is similar to the Compaq Array controllers to set up
ie it took a bit of fiddling, but once working runs great !!
I will keep your email address in case I have any troubles
Tony Platt
atoch wrote in message <7kbknm$on9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>You can use IBM Serveraid as primary storage.
>
>Email me for more details [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>Quick guide :
>
>* Install RedHat 6.0 on Ide or Adaptec.
>* Patch the kernel with the statical version of the driver.
> I had to make a small correction in the ips.h file : \ continuation
>caracter were faulty.
>* boot the new kernel.
>* fdisk the logical disks created with the Hardware guide for Serveraid.
>Note disk geometry for lilo use.
>* mkfs
>* mount the newly formatted partitions (mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; mount
>/dev/sda2 /mnt/boot; ....) .
>* tar the ide (adaptec) system to serveraid disks.
>* modify /mnt/etc/fstab
>* modify /mnt/etc/lilo.conf vi disk information (see lilo documentation).
>* run lilo -r /mnt
>* shutdown.
>* remove ide (adaptec) disk.
>* You are done.
>
>Tony Platt a �crit dans le message ...
>>Thanks for the reply Bernard
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>Bernd Huebenett wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>>Hello Tony,
>>>
>>>there are beta drivers for Red Hat 6.0 from IBM. At the moment the
>>ServeRAID is
>>>only useable as a secondary storage device. ServeRAID II = Adaptec
>>AHA-3985.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Bernd
>>>
>>>
>>>Tony Platt wrote:
>>>
>>>> SCSI-2 Fast / Wide ServeRAID PCI RAID Controller, FRU P/N 76H6875
>>(06H9334)
>>>>
>>>> Is it supported under linux
>>>>
>>>> Picture
>>>>
>>>> http://www.computercable.com/ecom/76h6875.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Tony Platt
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From: "dpc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rz Slow on Serial connect.
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 01:54:06 -0400
Well, I was finally able to get a serial console up and running. Many
thanks to the people who provided me with help. In any case - I've got a
crossover cable going from Com2 on NT to ttyS1 on Linux and logging in to
Linux via a term emulator called CRT.
The setup is a fresh install of SuSE 6.1 - Nothing tweaked...yet :)
As I don't have a network set up yet, I tried to do rz and sz using the
serial cable. It's connected at 115200baud, but if I try to do a rz
(Zmodem) upload to the linux box, it is EXTREMELY slow - i.e. 200bytes/sec
and constantly decreasing. However, if I do an sz <filename> from Linux, it
transfers at up to 11Kb/sec. Why such a drastic slowdown with rz (Zmodem).
Does sz use a different default protocol? And if so, is there a way to call
rz from Linux? Because it's being done now by a menu command in CRT which
allows me to select files to upload to the linux box. Thanks for any tips
again.
dpc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox)
Subject: Re: Celeron or PII?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20 Jun 1999 05:50:14 GMT
In article <ZmV73.1106$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bryan wrote:
>Vaisbrot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: I saw somewhere than because of Linux's better (i.e. complete) usage of
>: the CPU, it was tricky to overclock it, whichever the CPU model may be.
>
>in fact, just the opposite, imho. its known that linux heats cpu's up
>less when the system isn't running at full 100% util. linux executes
>the HALT instr which saves energy. 'doze, otoh, is ALWAYS in a busy
True, but it's really more complicated than that. A linux system doing
something like compiling the kernel is likely going to be pushing
hardware a lot farther (and consequently may show negative effects of
overclocking) than a typical Windows machine will. In situations
like this, the idling really doesn't help.
Even a linux machine not doing much other than running a few programs
in X or what have you may look like it could tolerate overclocking OK, but
will just flop over with a segmentation fault when trying to compile
the kernel. That's what I observed when I attempted early on to overclock
my current P-100 to 133.
>Bryan [at] Grateful.Net
>http://www.Grateful.Net
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From: "Chris Woodruff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dvd burner with linux?
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:30:10 -0400
I heard on ZDtv that the first affordable DVD burner is coming. Will retail
for $699 but I don't remember who is manufacturing it. I do know it's one
of the name brands.
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Chris Woodruff
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Worldwind Technologies, Inc.
www.worldwindtech.com
Chris L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Last time I saw DVD writing hardware it was in the $5000 (US) and up
range.
> Not quite what I'd call cost effective. Plus the disks were ~$30.
> Chris L.
> Stefano Ghirlanda wrote in message ...
> >Hi,
> >we have to buy some backup equipment for our lab. I would like to know if
> >DVD is a better alternative to CD... e.g. in terms of storage space,
> >reliability, price.
> >
> >Any info or pointers appreciated,
> >Stefano
> >
> >--
> > Stefano Ghirlanda, Zoologiska Institutionen, Stockholms Universitet
> > Office: D554, Arrheniusv. 14, S-106 91 Stockholm, Sweden
> >Phone: +46 8 164055, Fax: +46 8 167715, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Support Free Science, look at: http://rerumnatura.zool.su.se
>
>
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From: "Tony Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.caldera,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: HELP! Compaq Netflex 3/P network card
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:57:20 +1000
Is the card actually pluged into the network ???
These cards don't like to run without being pluged in somewheres.
Tony
vdg wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello,
>I'm trying to install a network card Compaq NETFLEX 3/P(tlan.o module) and
>here is what I got:
>
>1.ifconfig output:
>eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:80:5F:D4:6F:84
> inet addr:192.168.0.3 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
> Interrupt:17 Base address:0xf4f0
>
>2. console output:
>
>Jun 14 19:48:45 linux1 kernel: TLAN driver, v1.0, (C) 1997-8 Caldera, Inc.
>Jun 14 19:48:45 linux1 kernel: TLAN: eth0 irq=17 io=f4f0, Compaq
>NetFlex-3/P, Rev. 16
>Jun 14 19:49:02 linux1 kernel: TLAN: eth0: Link forced.
>
>
>
>2. message when I'm trying to use "insmod tlan irq=5 io=0xf4f0
speed=10Mbs"
>
>/lib/modules/2.2.9/net/tlan.o: invalid parameter parm_irq
>/lib/modules/2.2.9/net/tlan.o: invalid parameter parm_io
>/lib/modules/2.2.9/net/tlan.o: invalid parameter parm_speed
>
>As you can see the IRQ detected is 17.....!!!! I know(with a DOS program)
>that the card is on 5 ...
>
>I did tried kernel 2.2.6,7,8,9 with Caldera 2.2,SUSE 6.1 and Redhat 6.1.
>I tried to put as a parameter in conf.modules:
> "alias eth0 tlan
>options tlan io=0xf4f0 irq=5"
>and I got the same message: "invalid parameter parm_irq" etc...
>
>What's strange is that after I load the module..with that strange IRQ...I
>have conectivity for about 2-3 min...and then nothing...it's really weird.
>I've changed 3 cards, I've changed the slot on the mainboard,I've enable
and
>disable PNP in BIOS..I did everything!!!
>
>So how can I force to use that IRQ(5)? Or am I doing something wrong here?
>
>Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox)
Subject: Re: Alpha performance (reply to somebody else... forget who)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20 Jun 1999 06:11:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim wrote:
>> Integer operations, like compiling, will *always* cream Intel, with the
>> possibility of the Merced giving it a run for its money because of the sheer
>> number of fetches per second... it simply does more.
Compiling is more complicated than just "integer instructions". A perhaps
better example would be f.e., doing exact integer arithmetic, like computing
256K raised to the 256K power exactly (using bc). On my P-100, it took the
better part of a day. Compilation may be harder on the Intel - especially
optimization, due to the restricted register set. On the other hand, Alpha
has more registers, but it also is a RISC chip, and requires more instructions
to do the same task by comparison.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tsmanlyman) writes:
> From a very uninformed position, how much affect does the fact
>that x86 processors use a complex instruction set and that alphas are
>RISC affect relative performance?
Alpha is perhaps better at integer (as well as FP) than Intel, since it can
superpipeline (stage more than one instruction/cycle) better than the
Intel can. But the PII (and perhaps PIII) can do this as well, and so can
the regular Pentium, although not as well. In particular, the Pentium's
scheduling is hampered in that some instructions can only be paired with
other instructions; otherwise you stall the pipeline.
Then again, the Alpha requires more instructions, so it's still somewhat
of a tradeoff.
> http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d61920 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://surf.to/timzpayj
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