Linux-Hardware Digest #653, Volume #10 Sat, 3 Jul 99 03:13:55 EDT
Contents:
Re: Alpha Processor boards ("John D. Verne")
Re: FS: 6 semi-bare Sun SPARCStation 1's ; $50 each (Michael Radtke)
Re: PCI Modem ("David Pereira")
Soundblaster 16 - Out of ideas on how to get it to work (Eric Poole)
Re: Need to Build Low-Cost Linux Box (Ed Power)
Re: Configuring my PCI modem ("David Pereira")
Re: Intel could nip dual-Celeron move in bud (Christopher Browne)
Re: Many serial ports for Linux (Martin Brown)
Re: Adaptec 2920 SCSI controller (Rich Piotrowski)
Re: notebook 486slc (Harald Arnesen)
MAKE error when compiling FTAPE-4.02 ("Max A. Schneider")
Metro-x and dual head display (Bryan)
Re: courier v.everything NON WIN MODEM ("Lord Byron")
Re: Dropping bytes on serial port (Anders Buch)
Re: sorry for the last one (Tim Moore)
Re: rmt for WinNT (Tim Moore)
Re: please reccommend a PCI sound card.... (Tim Moore)
Re: a quality 3 button mouse (Tim Moore)
Let's build a perfect Wintel-free PC (Stanislav Kelman)
Linux CD COPY ("Lee")
X server -- Viper V550 @ 24 bit color??? (Will Schmid)
Re: @home schitzophrenia with RH (Joe Mason)
Copy Linux CD ("Lee")
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From: "John D. Verne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Alpha Processor boards
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 22:16:38 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Anyone built a Linux machine using the Alpha dual motherboards from
> Samsung?
> thx
Um, yeah. Like at least 3 Linux resellers. Penguin Computing springs
to mind, as does VA Research. There are always refs to Alpha Linux
boxes in Linux Journal.
John
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From: Michael Radtke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.wanted,misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: FS: 6 semi-bare Sun SPARCStation 1's ; $50 each
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 23:10:08 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have an old SPARCStation 1, but it is missing a few components,
(memory/graphics card) Would you be willing to sell these separate from
the complete units?
Kent Rankin wrote:
>
> The units are located in Knoxville, TN, 37922-3449.
>
> Sun SPARCStation 1
> 16MB RAM
> Floppy Drive
> bw2 Framebuffer
> 2 Serial Ports
> Onboard Sound
> Onboard SCSI-2
> 3 SBus Slots
>
> Do send any questions that you might have.
>
> -Kent Rankin
>
> P.S. - I have 17" Monochrome monitors for these as well(model 17SMM1) for
> $50 each.
--
Michael Radtke
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "David Pereira" <davidp att wwg d0t c0m>
Subject: Re: PCI Modem
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:16:17 -0700
Like the other replies said, this is probably a Winmodem. Check the webpage
Mircea referenced to make sure.
If you want a PCI modem that has official support for Linux, check out
Actiontec's 56K Internal PCI Call Waiting Modem a5
http://www.actiontec.com/products/modems/cwi/cwi_overview.html
PC Mall sells it for about $100. I haven't picked one up yet, but will
shortly.
Regards,
->David
--
_________________________
David Pereira
Systems/Network Administrator
Bart omiej Niechwiej wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>I had a 33600 modem which worked perfectly with Linux (it was Zoltrix
>ISA modem - not a PnP modem).
>I sold it and bought Zoltrix Spirit 56K PCI PnP modem and I'm not able
>to configure my Linux box to support it. When I look at /proc/pci I see
>unrecognized pci device (and I know this is my modem) using IRQ 5. When
>I try manually
>setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 5 io 0x3e8 etc. it doesn't work (when I later
>use minicom I can't talk to the modem). What should I do? Does anybody
>know what to do with PCI PnP devices? Is any pcipnp (like isapnp)
>program which could help?
>
>Bartek Niechwiej
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Poole)
Subject: Soundblaster 16 - Out of ideas on how to get it to work
Date: 2 Jul 1999 23:18:06 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Most of today has been pretty much wasted trying to get a Soundblaster
16 to make a noise with LInux.
Setup: Slackware 4.0, kernel 2.2.5 (also tried 2.2.6 and 2.2.7),
Pentium 233, 256 megs RAM.
The Soundblaster was part of a bundle with a CD drive. It is intended
for Windoze 95/98, and the documentation provides zero (0) guidance as
to what the default addresses / IRQs / DMAs are or how to set them.
I have done the Dejanews searches, read the
/usr/src/linux/Documentatino/sound stuff, read the Sound-HOWTO, and
basically read up on everything I can find on the Soundblaster.
I have tried compiling sound and Soundblaster support in the kernel,
and compiling and installing it as modules.
I have tried PnP (can't really figure out how to get that to work
either so can't really say if it failed to recognize the sound card
simply because I can't set it up right).
I even went so far as to install Windows 98 on another junk hard drive
I had lying around, just for the sole purpose of running it on this
machine and seeing what it thinks the IO/IRQ/DMA settings for the
sound card are. It came up with IO's of 220,300, and 388; IRQ 9; and
DMA's of 3 and 1. (???).
The sound card worked fine under the above mentioned test installation
of Win98, but will not generate one squeak under Linux. A dmesg after
bootup says "Sound initialization started" followed immediately by
"Sound initialization complete", indicating that it can't find a sound
card. Doing a cat /dev/sndstat shows the sound card in parens,
indicating the system can't see it.
I'm out of clues and ideas. Anyone had any better luck?
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From: Ed Power <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need to Build Low-Cost Linux Box
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:41:42 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Neville wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm a college student and I am looking to build/buy a Linux box for
> <=$500. I don't need a monitor-- just a decent AMD or Intel processor, a
> few GBs of disk, 128 or so RAM, video card, ethernet card, etc. I want
> to be able to run KDE, use GNU programming tools, run Apache, and run
> VMWare so I can occassionally access Windoze files.
>
> I've found some good deals for pre-assembled Linux boxes from The
> Computer Underground (www.tcu-inc.com), but, if it isn't too involved or
> pricey, I would prefer to build the system myself.
>
> Where are the best places to find QUALITY parts at REASONABLE
> prices? Or, where is the best place to buy a complete system?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> - Neville
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
You can also take a look at my website. I have some 486 and pentium
boards, and used 386 and 486 computers.
--
Ed Power
Computer Headaches
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.ComputerHeadaches.com
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From: "David Pereira" <davidp att wwg d0t c0m>
Subject: Re: Configuring my PCI modem
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:11:33 -0700
Johan,
That is an assumption based on old information. You could very well be
wrong. Mircea's post points you to a good page on this stuff.
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/PCImodems.html
Actiontec's 56K Internal PCI Call Waiting Modem has official Linux support.
http://www.actiontec.com/products/modems/cwi/cwi_overview.html
PC Mall sells this modem for about $100.
Regards,
->David
--
_________________________
David Pereira
Systems/Network Administrator
Johan Kullstam wrote in message ...
>Hans Peter Hagblom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I have an internal 56k PCI modem from Rockwell...
>
>i feel for you brother...
>
>> but i don't know how
>> to install it properly under linux..
>
>you don't.
>
>> i have RedHat 5.2
>
>you have a winmodem. return it for a refund and get a real modem. i
>recommend an external with rs-232c interface. any brand will do.
>
>--
>J o h a n K u l l s t a m
>[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Intel could nip dual-Celeron move in bud
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 04:28:48 GMT
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:27:40 GMT, Chris Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.hardware Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:51:17 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>That will just shift the mind share away from them and onto AMD. If Intel
>>>doesn't want to sell two celerons then I'm sure AMD would be happy to sell
>>>two K7s. I just hope the K7s drop below $200 in the next few months.
>>>
>
>> huh? Is AMD finally making multiprocessor capable cpus? Last I checked,
>> AMD chips didn't do that.
>
>The K7 (Altheon) supports SMP.
I *thought* that the K6 did too, but that mattered not at all, and
doesn't presently matter with the Altheon, as the critical component
is not merely the CPU, but the *MOTHERBOARD.*
There are no SMP motherboards for AMD chips (whatever the generation),
ergo no SMP systems based on AMD chips.
It doesn't appear that there are, in fact, *any* motherboards
available yet for the Altheon CPU, which means there are few systems
for sale thus far.
--
"I'd say the probability of Windows containing a backdoor is about the
same a spreadsheet containing a flight simulator."
--Phil Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/hardware.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Brown)
Subject: Re: Many serial ports for Linux
Date: 2 Jul 1999 21:49:13 -0700
In article <7lg2dm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
H. Wade Minter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm looking for a device that will plug into a PCI slot on an intel
>system, and allow Linux to have many serial ports off of that card.
>
>An example of something similar to what I'm looking for is at:
>http://www.systech.com/catalog/ProductsCatalog.html#Parallex
>but it only connects to the parallel port, and isn't supported under
>Linux.
>
>Does anyone have any ideas?
>
>--Wade
see www.cyclades.com or www.stallion.com
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From: Rich Piotrowski <rpiotrow*nospammin'*@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2920 SCSI controller
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 22:40:27 -0500
On Fri, 02 Jul 1999, Phil Richardson wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>Just installed Red Hat 5.2. During the installation process the list of
>SCSI controllers supported did not include the Adaptec 2920 (other
>Adaptec cards were on the list, but not the 2920).
>
>Has anybody got RH5.2 to recognise this kind of SCSI card ? I've got a
>pair of seagate 4GB drives I'd DEARLY like to use.
>
>Persumably I have to get the kernel module to support this adaptor from
>somewhere ?
>
>Best Regards
>
>Phil Richardson
Phil,
I used to have one. Worked fine.
Select the "Future Domain 16xx" for support. That actually what a 2920 is.
Rich Piotrowski
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From: Harald Arnesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: notebook 486slc
Date: 02 Jul 1999 12:09:17 +0200
"Ruud de Smaele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello i have a cyrix cx486slc/50mhz, 4mb, 200mb color i wil install linux
> But i have only a floppy drive can you help me how i can do it
> no math coprocessor
You can copy Slackware to floppies if you have access to another
computer with a CD drive (or you can download the floppy images).
Or you can get MuLinux on three floppies - I don't remember the url.
Forget X with only 4 MB - even in console mode it will be slow.
--
Harald Arnesen, Apall�kkveien 23 A, N-0956 Oslo, Norway
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From: "Max A. Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MAKE error when compiling FTAPE-4.02
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 05:50:41 GMT
I'm running RH 6.0 (kernel 2.2.5-15), trying to get my floppy tape drive
(Colorado) working.
When I try to make the ftape-4.02 package, I get the following warnings and
errors:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/dma.h:95: warning: 'isa_dma_bridge_buggy'
redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/pcisyms.ver:48: warning: this is the
location of the previous definition
fdc-io.c:433: structure has no member named 'timeout'
(same error is given for line 454)
What am I doing wrong? Here's what I've done:
* went into /usr/src/linux and ran 'make menuconfig' to create config file
* ran 'make def'
* went into /usr/src/ftape-4.02 and ran 'make'.
Help! and thanks,
Max
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From: Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Metro-x and dual head display
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 05:41:10 GMT
anyone have any luck with Metro-X and dual headed x-servers?
which cards did you use? what was the motherboard?
thanks,
--
Bryan, http://www.Grateful.Net - Linux/Web-based Network Management
->->-> to email me, you must hunt the WUMPUS and kill it.
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From: "Lord Byron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: courier v.everything NON WIN MODEM
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 00:20:58 -0500
> to use the isapnptools to configure the modem in Linux. 'setserial' is
> only for modems that have hardwired IRQs.
That's not true. setserial is used to tell linux the IO and IRQ where it
can find the serial ports, whether they be on internal modems (regular or
PNP) or standard serial ports. After you use isapnp to configure a PNP
modem, you still need to run setserial to let linux know that the modem you
just configured is a COM port.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dropping bytes on serial port
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anders Buch)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 06:03:44 GMT
In article <7lj7s9$m31$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>bytes back from the box. Some bytes appear to be
>dropping in the middle of a received packet, but always
>in the same places.
>
>I'm suspecting that the hardware box might be the problem,
>but I want to eliminate linux as a possible source of the
>problem. So, has anyone encountered problems where Linux
>will drop bytes from a packet received from a com port?
I have an old 486/66 having two serial ports, both with some old crappy
UART (16450 I think). Mostly for the fun of playing I put a null-modem
cable between the ports and started sending data from one port to the
other. When I used speeds above 9600 baud, some bytes would occasionally
be lost, but no bytes were ever changed. So I guess using high speeds
on bad UARTs may cause losses. However, this wouldn't explain the "same
position" thing you are reporting.
Anders
--
Anders Skovsted Buch E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2072 East Hall Phone: (734) 477-9052
525 East University Ave
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1109
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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 23:16:56 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sorry for the last one
/etc/lilo.conf: append="ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=5,0x320,eth1"
/etc/conf.modules: same order as lilo.
alias eth0 3c509
alias eth1 ne2k-pci
Read /usr/doc/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO
i486/EISA bus ('NE' is my NE2000 card):
# cat /proc/{ioports,interrupts} | grep NE
0300-031f : NE2000
11: 79763 NE2000
i686/PCI bus:
# cat /proc/{ioports,interrupts} | grep eth
a000-a01f : eth0
11: 79880 eth0
# cat /proc/pci
PCI devices found:
...
Bus 0, device 12, function 0:
Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0).
Medium devsel. IRQ 11.
I/O at 0xa000.
> 2 ethernetcards:
> 1. 3com509
> 2. de220 isa (NE2000comp)
>
> Nr.1 functions as eth0 to the outside,
> Nr.2 functions as eth1 to the inside.
>
> (masquerading)
>
> my suse detects the 3com automatically
> and fixes her to io=0x300 and irq 10
>
> the second i configure manually with io=0x320 and irq 5
>
> and everything works fine
>
> but: after every reboot linux searches after nr.1 and tells me something
> about wrong io adress
> the second works fine
>
> more tips:
> 1. when i try to configure the 3com manually (with the values from the
> automatic detection), always an error merssage occurs
> 2. both cards are in /etc/conf.modules with the alias and their io
> adresses
--
direct replies substitute timothymoore for user name
"Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
WS Burroughs.
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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 23:25:15 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.admin,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking
Subject: Re: rmt for WinNT
http://www.datafocus.com/partners/mssfu.htm
--
direct replies substitute timothymoore for user name
"Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
WS Burroughs.
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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 23:31:54 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: please reccommend a PCI sound card....
# cat /proc/pci
PCI devices found:
...
Bus 0, device 9, function 0:
Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq AudioPCI (rev 0).
Slow devsel. IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=12.Max
Lat=128.
I/O at 0xd000.
--
direct replies substitute timothymoore for user name
"Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
WS Burroughs.
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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 23:34:47 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: a quality 3 button mouse
Yep. Do this about once a month. Same mouse.
--
direct replies substitute timothymoore for user name
"Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
WS Burroughs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stanislav Kelman)
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.homebuiltalt.comp.hardware,comp.sys.be.help,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Let's build a perfect Wintel-free PC
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 02:03:38 -0400
Hello everyone!
Sorry for cross-posting. Just wanted to get as much input as possible...
Anyway, in a few months I'm going to put together a Wintel-free PC, just
for the fun of it. Most likely, it will have to be a multi-processor
capable AMD K7 (Athlon) based machine, unless somebody can suggest a
better option.
The case will come from colorcase.com. I will use Logitech's new wireless
keyboard/mouse combo for input. The rest, however, is up in the air.
This system should be able to reliably run BeOS, Linux and, as an added
bonus, OS/2. Obviously, it is hard to come by any hardware that doesn't
support Win 9x/NT, so if I ever really want a game that doesn't run on my
Mac or any of the above mentioned systems, setting up Windows wouldn't be
an issue (at least in theory).
I think now is a pretty good time to undertake this project. With
revision 4.5, BeOS is getting some extra hardware support, including 3D
graphics and a number of good sound boards. Linux is also on the move.
Meanwhile, AMD is aiming for the top.
So, what are my best options for motherboards, video, sound, modems,
networking, drives, memory, etc.? Keep in mind that each part *must* have
multi-system support. Good component values are welcome. A $1000 max for
the box itself is probably a reasonable price cap as there are already
some "premium" PIII-based brand name PCs that sell for just over that.
So, what do you suggest?
Peace,
Stan
"The people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world
are the ones who do." --Macintosh ad campaign
___________________________________________________________________
***** You can find a crazy person at http://www.LetItBe.org *****
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From: "Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux CD COPY
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 06:55:06 GMT
How do I copy a Linux (retail) CD to a CDR - using Win98 or WinNT 4.0?
Are there any special consideration or technique basically?
I use Adaptec Easy CD Creator Deluxe 3.01.
All comments and suggestions welcome. Thanks!
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From: Will Schmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X server -- Viper V550 @ 24 bit color???
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 06:54:15 GMT
I currently have a Diamond Viper V550 and I run X server XF86_SVGA
version 3.3.3.1. I'm kinda new at this, but I'm under the impression
that this SVGA X server can only support up to 256 colors (depth 8).
If so... That sucks!
Is there any other X server out there that I can use that is a little
better... or am I under the WRONG impression and just need to
reconfigure some stuff?
I find it odd that the XF86Config file has options for higher depths
than 8 (256 colors) in the SVGA section if it can't use them!!! Hmm...
Thanks!
-Will Schmid
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Mason)
Subject: Re: @home schitzophrenia with RH
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 06:37:11 GMT
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i think @home has some special auth type stuff you need to do. i am
>using mediaone and it works fine.
Not so I noticed. I'm using 5.2, and the only problem I had was getting it
to recognize my second network card (which was just a matter of reading the
Ethernet-HOWTO and the NET-3-HOWTO more carefully than I had in the past).
After that I just set the @home gateway address to be the gateway for the
second card, and it worked fine. Didn't even have to fiddle with dhcp or
anything (guess that's just a 6.0 issue).
Admittedly this could fail if the IP address changes, but that hasn't
happened in the 2 months I've been using it. I'm not going to worry too
much.
Joe
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From: "Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Copy Linux CD
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 06:53:40 GMT
How do I copy a Linux (retail) CD to a CDR? Are there any special
consideration or technique basically? I use Adaptec Easy CD Creator Deluxe
3.01. All comments and suggestions welcome. Thanks!
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