Linux-Hardware Digest #658, Volume #10 Sat, 3 Jul 99 20:13:24 EDT
Contents:
Re: Mitsumi CD-ROM ("De Geeter Jef")
Re: Metro-x and dual head display ("Keith Bell")
Re: Celeron, what's the catch? (Mike Frisch)
Re: Celeron, what's the catch? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Mounting Troubles
Re: Metro-x and dual head display (Bryan)
how to setup mandrake 6 for a cable modem ("anthonymelillo")
APM: Halt crashes when trying to poweroff. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Compaq presario (dann)
Re: Creative Labs 3d Blaster Banshee and 320*240 Res ("C L")
Soundblaster Live (Chad Peiper)
Re: Celeron, what's the catch? (Marc Mutz)
AGP Board and Linux (Blanche Cohen)
Re: Configuring my PCI modem (David Fox)
Re: Gateway 2k and Linux ("J. Blair")
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! ("Orest M. A. Zarowsky")
Looking for a SCSI LS-120 (Ryan S Warner)
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From: "De Geeter Jef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mitsumi CD-ROM
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:38:36 +0200
Hi,
>This has a Mitsumi double speed CD-ROM drive with its own interface
>(not IDE). The model number is CRMC-FXOOD.
>
>When I try to install the OS, it is not recognising the CD-ROM drive.
>Is this not supported, or am I doing something wrong? I couldn't find
>much useful on the Redhat hardware compatibility guide.
>
I had the same problem with a Sony cd-rom 2x drive (cdu-33A) with his
interface on a
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Pro. The Linux installation gave the following
error message:
"I can't find the device anywhere on your system!"
I think your cd-rom is supported, but because it is not a ATAPI/IDE drive,
it gives some problems.
The best thing you can do is: buy a new ATAPI/IDE drive (+- 50 euro) (I did,
and it worked)
bye
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From: "Keith Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Metro-x and dual head display
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 13:56:05 -0700
Actually, this link will take you directly there...
http://www.metrolink.com/support/ts433multi.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Frisch)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Celeron, what's the catch?
Date: 3 Jul 1999 20:48:12 GMT
On Sat, 03 Jul 1999 12:35:31 -0400, Jeffrey Karp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It sounds like a K6-3 450 system would be your best choice. Many of
Over a Celeron 433, 466, or 500? On what basis do you make this decision?
The original poster clearly mentioned some applications which would
require floating point math. We all know the K6s don't do this as well as
the Celerons or Pentium II/IIIs.
>month or so, the AMD Athlon(K7) is awesome. The 550 has 46% faster
>floating point than a Pentium 3 550, and is much less expensive.
Based on AMD's benchmarks, not those generated by a non-biased
third-party.
Mike.
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Newmarket, Ontario, CANADA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Celeron, what's the catch?
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 99 21:43:04 GMT
I second that BUY DIRECT many schools get teir little 2-4% discount
then ad that and more right back on.
:-) Greg B.
In article <377e5e90.7050127@news-server>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Never buy computer systems from a school. They will rob you blind.
>
>In no particular order:
>
>1. Go directly to www.dell.com to check out the latest prices.
>2. Check out the local guys from one of the local computer mags.
>3. www.valueamerica.com.
>4. www.comtrade.com
>
>When you buy out of state, you will not have to pay sale tax.
>
>
>On Sat, 3 Jul 1999 04:16:38 -0400, "FM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I'm buying a PC soon for college (from college) and the standard package
>>offered (http://www.dartmouth.edu/comp/newstudentinfo/buying/hardware.html)
>>is Celeron 433, 6GB, 64MB, 15" (quite the worst point) etc. While I have not
>>seen the specs of higher-end systems or the price, but so far it seems that
SNIP
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting Troubles
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 04:47:58 -0800
Thanks for the help--seeing that I didn't have several of those fd0* bits,
I used mknod to enter them in the hopes that their lack was causing the
problem. After creating them, I tried mounting my floppy again and. . .I
got the same error. What the hell?
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From: Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Metro-x and dual head display
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 22:17:29 GMT
how about any reports from REAL USERS. I'd like to know if this stuff
works before I spent time/effort getting 2 monitors and cards.
thanks,
Keith Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Actually, this link will take you directly there...
: http://www.metrolink.com/support/ts433multi.html
--
Bryan, http://www.Grateful.Net - Linux/Web-based Network Management
->->-> to email me, you must hunt the WUMPUS and kill it.
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From: "anthonymelillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: how to setup mandrake 6 for a cable modem
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 14:54:50 GMT
I am trying to install Mandrake 6, and if I can get it to go past the
network card detection, I was wondering if anyone tell me how to setup Linux
to work with my cable modem ?
I have an extra IP for this machine and all the specs, such as IP, gateway,
ect but I do not know how to setup Linux so I can access the FTP, and web
servers from other machines ?
Also, can I setup linux so I can access the hard disk from my Win98 machine
through my home network and copy files, ect ?
--
Anthony Melillo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: APM: Halt crashes when trying to poweroff.
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 02:40:30 -0500
I have Slackware 4.0 and I have complied a new kernel with the APM
support and the power off after shutdown options enabled. I have also
enabled the APM section of my motherboard BIOS. And the rc0.d script
DOES have the -p option on the halt command.
When I issue the halt command, when it gets to the point that the rc
script runs and issues halt -p, the machine crashes and I get a screen
full of errors. It begins like this:
General Fault Protection
CPU:0 and then I get a bunch of values inside of brackets.
Any response would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
John
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From: dann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compaq presario
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 16:44:43 -0600
works fine on my 4704. I had to purchase a new sound card and a new
modem though.
Steve Newton wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me if linux works on a Compaq Presario Computer.
>
> Steve
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From: "C L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,redhat.x.general
Subject: Re: Creative Labs 3d Blaster Banshee and 320*240 Res
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 22:44:08 GMT
I have successfully installed this beta driver on Redhad 5.1 Linux kernel
2.0.34 using the following steps:
1. tar -xvzf XF86_Banshee_1.01.tar.gz # unpack driver in /root
2. cp /root/XF86_Banshee /usr/X11R6/bin # copy driver into place
3. mv /etc/X11/XF86Config /etc/X11/XF86Config.001 # save old config
file
4. cp /root/XF86Config /etc/X11 # copy new one into place
5. rm /etc/X11/X # remove old link
6. ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_Banshee /etc/X11/X # establish new
link
The problem with the "by hand" install instructions from Creative is that
they establish two bogus links, namely:
bogus 1: ln /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_banshee /usr/X11R6/bin/X -s
bogus 2: ln /etc/X11/XF86_Banshee /etc/X11/X -s
Probably the install script does the same thing.
Cory wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
[snip]
>
>You might check Creative Lab's web site in their download section under
>Beta. They have a Linux server available for download. You could also
look
>at their Linux newsgroup at "creative.products.3d_blaster.banshee.linux"
and
>check out what the folks down there have to say. I will be getting
Mandrake
>soon, but I'm using Slackware now. The drivers that CL had didn't work for
>me, but I'm not sure about Mandrake. I did manage to pick up a Slackware
>server from somewhere. You can find it on the newsgroup. You can also
pick
>up the source for the server and compile it for your system.
>
>The server from CL is "XF86_Banshee", and it goes in your /usr/X11R6/bin
>folder (I think that's what it is, again I don't know Mandrake.) If all
>works, just make a symlink to XF86_Banshee and call it X. They do have an
>installation script that will do all that, but again it didn't work for me.
>
>The server from the other site is an updated XF86_SVGA server that will
work
>with just about every flavor of Voodoo.
>
>Hope this helps.
>Cory ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
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From: Chad Peiper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Soundblaster Live
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:38:08 -0500
I have SuSE 6.0 and I cannot get my card configured.
I downloaded the beta drivers but can not succesfully get the driver
working with a recompiled kernel.
Anybody have a soundblaster live card with Suse?
Thanks
Chad
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Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 00:19:17 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Celeron, what's the catch?
Mike Frisch wrote:
>
> Based on AMD's benchmarks, not those generated by a non-biased
> third-party.
>
Well, that is not true. The benchmark used is the widely accepted
SPEC{fp,int}. It would be a _bad_ idea for AMD to polish those results,
since everyone can verify them in three months time. AMD _bitterly_
needs to sell these CPUs _very_ well and they cannot affort to do such
things.
Marc
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University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics
PGP-keyID's: 0xd46ce9ab (RSA), 0x7ae55b9e (DSS), 0x31748570 (DH)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blanche Cohen)
Subject: AGP Board and Linux
Date: 3 Jul 1999 22:22:12 GMT
I've been assembling the new box (Abit board, Celeron processor) and
chose a 3dfx Voodoo AGP board for the video. Reading the side of the
box lists all the MS stuff but nothing about any unix/linux.
Will this board work with Linux 5.2/6.0 or should I return it?
If it doesn't work, any suggestions?
thanks
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Configuring my PCI modem
Date: 03 Jul 1999 16:15:33 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder) writes:
> "David Pereira" <davidp att wwg d0t c0m> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> >Actiontec's 56K Internal PCI Call Waiting Modem has official Linux support.
> >http://www.actiontec.com/products/modems/cwi/cwi_overview.html
>
> Fine, but did anyone confirm that it actually worked for him ?
>
> >PC Mall sells this modem for about $100.
>
> [...]
>
> Laughable. A reliable external modem could be bought for USD 50.--,
> with the same specs and some nifty LCDs to show you the present
> state of the connection. Not to mention the fact that you can reset
> it without resetting the whole system.
I haven't seen any such modems at that price.
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David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: "J. Blair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gateway 2k and Linux
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 03:09:08 -0500
i've got a g6-350... pII 350 w/ 128mb ram, stb velocity 128zx 8mb, 10.1gb
quantum fireball hd, floppy, 2x dvd with MPact decoder, winmodem (read:
telepath for windows) and creative labs audio pci 64...and it runs linux
really well.
ok, here's the skinny...
* your video card is NOT the MPact AGP card (there is no such thing...).
you prob have an ati or an stb card. the MPact card is an mpeg2 decoder for
dvd media. it works with your video card to produce images. you need to
find out what your video card really is. if it's the stb velocity 128zx 8mb
like mine, you need the latest xfree86 drivers. i think it's version
3.3.3.1. it works well with it. it's based off the nvidia 128 chipset, and
i think on the nvidia.com they have enhance drivers for it. i don't really
know ( i haven't tried them...) but word on the street is that they work
much better. btw, dvd is not supported in linux yet.
* you modem sucks ass. it's a soft-modem (otherwise known as a winmodem).
what it does is leave off hardware on the card to do modem "stuff." it uses
the processor's power to do the work. they are signicantly cheaper modems.
the problem is that modem companies and microsoft will no release info on
these modems so that drivers can be written for linux for these modems.
these modems rely on winblows (9x or NT) to be able to use the cpu. thus,
the modems cannot be used with linux. buy a new modem...either an external
or one recommend for linux (go to this
site...http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/PCImodems.html...for more
info).
* the sound card is based off the creative labs 1371 chipset. so, you may
be asked for that info when trying to get linux setup ( i only have
experience with redhat, and i configured the sound for the 1371 chipset with
the setup command from root).
* i have run both rh 5.2 and presently 6.0 on my system with minimal
problems. as for your printer, i have no clue, sorry. i'm still relatively
new to linux, and i found the following site to be of great help:
http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/. also, the mandrake distibution is really
good for beginners. it's basically redhat with the kde window envirionment.
ok, hope this helps...
jimmy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Has anyone successfully installed linux on a Gateway 2000 PII with:
>
> MPact AGP video card, Telepath for Windows with X2 Modem, Creative Lab
> Sound Blaster Audio PCI 64 sound card and an HP 600 series printer?
>
> If so, which linux distribution are you using? I am currently having
> problems with the video card, seems it is unsupported and has been
> discontinued. If I get a replacement for my video card, I then wonder
> what else on my system would also be unsupported?
>
> Joe
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From: "Orest M. A. Zarowsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 19:10:20 -0400
Some thoughts
I have used DOS, Win 3.x, Win 95 (all versions) and now Win 98 - not because I want
to but because that's what is used at work, and I have to produce stuff that is
compatible with the systems there. I am moving into Linux because I am tired of
crashes etc. I know lots of people that have had their Linux systems up for 4
months plus (24 hrs, 7 days/week) with heavy use, no problems. Just try achieving
that using Windows. Windows is, to put it kindly, a very bad joke.
Windows is, in fact, quite easy to install. All you need to do is stick the CD-ROM
in the drive, execute set-up and off you go. Up to approximately an hour later you
will be the proud user of Windows ( you poor stiff). Note that you have a hell of
a lot less input in the installation of Win 98 than you did in Win 95. Where the
fun begins is when you try to install hardware and apps. God help you if you are
trying to set up things with a flaky or older motherboard - you know, things like
older versions of PCI slots, Quote -non-standard- Quote IRQ lines (see HP
motherboards for this one) etc. Oh yeah, let's not forget the merry mix-ups that
can occur when one installs software that did not originate in Redmond on the
system.
It's true that Linux does not have quite the hardware support that Win 9.x does.
Some of the hardware that's out there right now (quite popular, too) is stuff that
should never have seen the light of day eg WIN Modems (i.e. PCI modems), parallel
based scanners, PCI sound cards, Host-based Printers (e.g. HP 5 & 6L series), you
get the idea. Trying to run this stuff under Windows 9.x, which allegedly supports
it, is a Jobian trial. Why the hell would you want to do this under Linux? You
can rest assured that there will be support under Linux for mainstream devices such
as DVD and USB very soon. "Mainstream" hardware is not not necessarily of reliable
quality, leave aside the issue of driver quality. It is pathetic that the quality
of programming one sees out in the "market-place" is actually going down in
quality. I'd like someone to explain the difference between spending hours to get
a new device to sort-of work under Windows as opposed to spending some time
finding drivers for Linux. Keep in mind that once you find drivers for Linux, the
hardware will usually work flawlessly. Windows drivers may not even install
themselves, let alone work once you do manage to get them installed
It is also true that some of the programs that are available for Windows are not
available for Linux. So what? It is almost amusing to hear people say that there
are no applications to run under Linux, particularly when one recalls the
discussions about when "real" packages like SPSS would be ported to the PC
environment. This complaint appears to be most frequent among gamers. So, you
can't run thousands of variations of first person shooters under Linux. Big Deal
- are you so sure that this is a "BAD THING"? As for products like Word and
Excel, well, they're garbage, especially when compared to equivalent function
products readily available for Windows. Also, what OS do you think that all the
university and high end work stations (graphics, engineering etc.) were running.
I'll bet that George Lucas doesn't use Windows-based systems for his stuff.
Bottom line is that computers are NOT ready for prime time, are not user friendly,
most definitely are not appliances and one needs to be fairly knowledgeable to get
the most out of them. The best analogy the I can think of is to compare the
current state of hardware/software development to that of automobiles in the
1930's. Cars then were a lot more user friendly than in the 20's, but anyone who
drove a car still had to be their own mechanic. There is still a long way to go
before computers are like current cars where you get in the driver's seat, turn on
the ignition and drive down the road. We won't go into individual driver skill and
courtesy here, but this is also an issue (can you say SPAM?). Linux offers a
better chance of achieving this than Mickeysoft does.
Orest Zarowsky
"So - What's New and Exciting?"
JLKirkham wrote:
> If you'll pardon me jumping into the fray here with my $0.02... (and maybe
> ranting a bit)...
>
> I was 14 when Tandy sent out the TRS-80 and my dad picked one up (he still has
> it) and we all played with DOS... got fairly good at it - not programmers by
> any means, but we could find our a** from a hole in the ground, if you know
> what I mean. Anyway, when Windows came along, we went right along with it. As
> proficient as we were with DOS, windows was (is) a no-brainer, but it was fun
> (something new, something different).
>
> And then I heard about this thing called Linux, and I was intrigued. Why?
> Because I LIKE to tweak. And my husband likes to tinker. Can we do that with
> Windows? Yeah, right.
>
> Anyway, I've found this entire thread to be fascinating, and just wanted to add
> a couple of tidbits here and there...
>
> I've had Win3.x, Win95 and Win98 lock up during install. Of all the versions,
> Win3.x was the most stable. I can't count how many times I've had to reinstall
> Win95 and Win98... Win95 was especially good at rewriting my registry files and
> then refusing to look at them. Win95 didn't like me playing with their
> screensavers, either - choked every time.
>
> When I started my Linux install, that "mounting" and "hda1" and partitioning
> gave me pause. RTFM, you say, and I did - that didn't seem to ease the willies
> I had when SuSE said it wanted to mount my drive (I was thinking, now I KNOW
> this was written by a man!).
>
> And about those manuals... well, if you want to RTFM for a Win install, you're
> going to be sadly disappointed. Documentation you say? Well, it teaches you
> how to click a mouse... how to open a window and close a window... how to turn
> on a screensaver and wallpaper... tells you how great the internet is (and how
> seamless Win98 and IE are with it)... then they get to Advanced Issues like
> using Help, backing up your files, defragging your disk, finding your printer
> ("there it is, right beside the box") ad nauseum. If you wanted answers, you
> wouldn't find them here. And on the back page in big letters: For product
> support, contact the manufacturer of your computer system. Yeah, well, that
> would be me. Good thing I didn't have anything bleeding edge or painfully
> obsolete.
>
> Well, now I've got Linux running but not quite "there" yet - still working out
> a few issues, but it's FUN. My husband the tinkerer (who knows next to nothing
> about software of any kind) is loving it. I, the tweaker, am loving it. So
> what if my sound card doesn't work? Never mind that I just found out that all
> the work I've done to get the modem going has been in vain (Rockwell HCF).
> And, okay, I was sucked in by the big sale on scanners and finally broke down
> and bought one... yes, it's a parallel port (duh, I didn't even think about it)
> thank goodness I didn't sink a lot of money into it. And we won't even talk
> about the confusion still residing in my brain about this file structure and
> the commands, etc., etc.
>
> The thing is, one day (hopefully not too long from now) I will be able to look
> at my kid and say: See, I told you the patience would pay off. And into the
> bargain she's gonna become a pretty decent computer mechanic, if nothing else.
> The stuff she's learned in two weeks with Dad tinkering with boxes and Mom
> tweaking Linux puts to shame the entire year she spent in "computer" class - at
> a private school, no less - where she learned how to turn the thing on, type,
> print, and turn it off.
>
> And even she noticed - although we have managed to crash KDE a couple of times,
> it's not as bad as when my son crashes Win98 with his Reader Rabbit (which
> seems to be a daily thing), and always much easier to restart X than to reboot
> Win98 (with fingers crossed and breath held because hey, Mom still has to have
> Win98 for work).
>
> </rant>
>
> Jana
> Wherever you go, there you are.
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From: Ryan S Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for a SCSI LS-120
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 18:37:53 -0500
Call me anal, but I'm looking at what it would take to build an
_entirely_ SCSI system, down to the floppy drive. I figured since I'll
need to put a 3.5" disk drive in I might as well make it an LS-120, but
I really don't want to use IDE. SCSI ZIP drives are easy enough to
find, but what about the LS-120?
Ryan
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