Linux-Hardware Digest #661, Volume #10 Sun, 4 Jul 99 01:13:41 EDT
Contents:
Voltage Regulator Module? (tjm)
Re: TV out (Richard Mann)
wants to learn linux ("Mr. Mike")
Which SCSI Adapter ("Jackson C. Allen")
Re: Mounting a FAT floppy (FUJITA Yasushi)
Scanners in Linux (Jeremy Fincher)
Re: wants to learn linux (Jeremy Fincher)
Re: Celeron, what's the catch? (Mike Frisch)
Re: Celeron, what's the catch? (Mike Frisch)
Re: Celeron, what's the catch? (William Burrow)
help with sound (Jeremy Fincher)
Re: how to setup mandrake 6 for a cable modem (fmiller1@[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Celeron, what's the catch? (chris)
Re: Looking for a SCSI LS-120 (John Hong)
Re: Celeron, what's the catch? (Philip Poe)
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From: tjm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Voltage Regulator Module?
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 20:25:33 -0700
Hello. I have a Shuttle 553 motherboard that
I would like to run with Linux and a newer cpu,
but the board needs a voltage regulator module
to supply dual voltage. I think these modules
are/were made to some Intel standard and plug
into a standard receptacle on the motherboard.
Linux runs fine with the current 133Mhz, but
it would be nice to squeeze a little more life
from it (a 233Mhz).
Any suggestions on where to find one of
these modules (already checked a lot of
places).
thanks,
--
tony mollica
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Richard Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TV out
Date: 03 Jul 1999 22:02:21 -0400
I'm looking for TVout under Linux too! I need to make "live" screen videos
for presentations.
I heard that some Matrox cards have this. (Some G200 models have TVout, all
of the newer G400 models have multimonitor capability, including video
output.) The current Xfree86 driver for the G200 does not support this
feature. The G400 driver is not out yet.
Does anyone know if the new drivers (XFree86, version 4.0) will support video
output on any of the Matrox cards?
Thanks,
Richard
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From: "Mr. Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: wants to learn linux
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:28:17 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
aloha from big island-hawaii,
please email me directly @ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i have a question, currently i have an old macintosh LCIII 25mhz, i
would categorize myself as an intermediate user, i have a desire to
become more computer literate via books and distance education, one
thing i may be interested in is learning linux, unix.
my question is how much frustration will i be in for, assuming i buy a
new PC and then attempt to partition my hard drive and have a choice of
running windows98 and linux, or is that even possible.
i'm sure some of the frustration will lead to learning, but i don't want
to regret my decision,
further what components of the PC are a must to run linux? do most new
PCs come with generally what i will need. EG if i get 4 gigs of HD,
128mb RAM, an 8mb vid card, aren't there some cards that won't work with
linux.
lastly, i suppose linux crashs less than windows, but do people use
linux for everyday tasks like webrowsing, email, word processing and not
use it at the same time for server functions, or things that linux
uniquely does and therefore one needs linux.
any suggestions besides books on getting started.
there are machines at 300mhz at the linux store specifically "ion"
brand, but i do want to run both windows and linux and not sure if these
products at linux store would support me enough technically and whether
the machines are new and/or any good.
hey thanks for any help here.
or as they say here "mahalo".
M.
--
Michael Ferdun, Hawaii. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.xoom.com/paixaloha
_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
Time and space, he argued, are not inherent
qualities of the physical world; they are a
reflection of the way the mind operates.
The current superparadigm assumes that space,
time and matter constitute the basic framework
of reality, and consciousness somehow arises
from this reality. The truth, it now appears,
is the very opposite. As far as the reality we
experience is concerned�and this remember is
the only reality we ever know�consciousness is
primary. Time, space and matter are secondary;
they are aspects of the image of reality
manifesting in the mind. They exist within
consciousness; not the other way around.
It's a terrible thing to tell children that they
can be anything they want, do anything they
set their minds to. No, my son, my daughter,
make do with what you've got, and be the best
that you can be.
Belief come from our
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Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:17:57 -0400
From: "Jackson C. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Which SCSI Adapter
I have been able to obtain 3 SONY SDT-5010 4mm tape drives at a real
good price, $0. I have search the WEB and found a little information
about, general specs and jumper settings. I was told they single ended
but have not found anything that states that is true. I want to hook one
of the up on a system running RedHat 6.0 and another on a system running
Windoze 98. I also want to hook up a scanner on the Windoze 98 system. I
need a PCI adapter because both systems have a limited number of ISA
slots and they are in use, sound card, network cards.
Now my questions:
1) Which SCSI adapter would you recommend. I know about Adaptec and some
of the other well know adapters. Most of them cost over $100. I am
looking for something in $50 to $75 range. Performance is not my biggest
need. I have seen one for about $50. I had not heard of the brand until
I started looking and noticed several PC stores around me are selling
them. It is a Kouwell 801 Symbios. I have not been able to find out a
lot about the adapter. I don't want to buy it and then find out it will
not work.
2) If the Kouwell 801 Symbios adapter will work, does RedHat 6.0 support
it. It may come with drivers for Windoze 98. I have tried looking
through the supported hardware list and did not find an exact match. So
it may be a copy of another well know SCSI adapter or the company bought
another company, etc.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Jack Allen
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From: FUJITA Yasushi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,redhat.hardware.arch.intel
Subject: Re: Mounting a FAT floppy
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 13:05:28 +0900
If /mnt/floppy is present at your hard drive, type
mount -tvfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
Otherwise, if /floppy is, type
mount -tvfat /dev/fd0 /floppy
See "man mount" for more information.
Yas
Bernhard Ernst wrote:
>
> I tried mounting a floppy disk that is FAT (FAT12 if I am correct)
>
> Using mount -t fvat /mnt/floppy /floppy doesn't work, I know this works for
>
> FAT partitions. I tried the same using /dev/fd0 instead of /mnt/floppy
>
> Any ideas, because in this case using a floppy is my best solution, E-mail
>
> costs too much (but it works), and the other Windoze98 machine doesn't have
>
> a network card.
>
> Bernhard Ernst
>
> ------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Fincher)
Subject: Scanners in Linux
Date: 04 Jul 1999 04:28:03 GMT
Is it possible to make a scanner that uses a parallel port interface work with
Linux? If so, is there a HOWTO or some documentation I could look at?
Thanks,
Jeremy
==================================
If i ever forget to capitalize a proper noun, forgive me. i'm a big fan of ee
cummings
My ICQ # is 28153190. My AIM/AOL name is either jemfinch02 or Cassius80.
Have a good day, and good luck in your endeavors!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Fincher)
Subject: Re: wants to learn linux
Date: 04 Jul 1999 04:25:56 GMT
>i
>would categorize myself as an intermediate user, i have a desire to
>become more computer literate via books and distance education, one
>thing i may be interested in is learning linux, unix.
Just like me. I decided that it was time I learned something other than win98,
where just about everyone's an expert. So I bought Linux from the local
computer store and after some trying hours, got it installed and I am now
involved in fixing it up the way I like it.
>my question is how much frustration will i be in for
Well, I can definitely say that there were times when a little frustration
crept into my attitude, but it wasn't much and it always seemed that i found
the solution to my problem before I could get truly upset. In all, the process
has so far been more one of wonder and discovery than one of frustration.
>i buy a
>new PC and then attempt to partition my hard drive and have a choice of
>running windows98 and linux, or is that even possible.
That's exactly what I did.
>i'm sure some of the frustration will lead to learning, but i don't want
>to regret my decision
You won't. I haven't. The worst that can happen, after all, is that you
decide Linux isn't for you and you just repartition your hard drive and use
win98 alone.
>further what components of the PC are a must to run linux?
Since linux runs on just about everything (heck, you might even be able to run
it on your old macintosh--can anyone confirm that?) the only component that I
would say is absolutely necessary is an internet connection. I use AOL, and
there have been many times where I wish I could've just hopped online to ask
questions but couldn't because AOL is my only ISP right now, and they don't
support linux.
Other than that, the standard Linux caveat: make sure your hardware has
drivers, and try to find them before you install your hardware.
>do people use
>linux for everyday tasks like webrowsing, email, word processing
Yes. I can't wait to get my university connection so I can use the internet
from Linux.
Hope this helps a bit,
Jeremy Fincher
==================================
If i ever forget to capitalize a proper noun, forgive me. i'm a big fan of ee
cummings
My ICQ # is 28153190. My AIM/AOL name is either jemfinch02 or Cassius80.
Have a good day, and good luck in your endeavors!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Frisch)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Celeron, what's the catch?
Date: 4 Jul 1999 03:07:28 GMT
On Sun, 04 Jul 1999 00:19:17 +0200, Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well, that is not true. The benchmark used is the widely accepted
>SPEC{fp,int}. It would be a _bad_ idea for AMD to polish those results,
>since everyone can verify them in three months time. AMD _bitterly_
>needs to sell these CPUs _very_ well and they cannot affort to do such
>things.
I would still like to see the benchmarks done by somebody other than the
manufacturer of the new CPU.
Mike.
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Mike Frisch Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Northstar Technologies WWW: http://saturn.tlug.org/~mfrisch
Newmarket, Ontario, CANADA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Frisch)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Celeron, what's the catch?
Date: 4 Jul 1999 03:09:39 GMT
On 4 Jul 1999 01:49:20 GMT, Chris Robato Yao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Not if you use a 3DNow enabled compiler like Codewarrior.
>
>If it is compiled with 3DNow, chances are it can be much faster.
Agreed, but Linux (the kernel) does not use any of the advantages of 3DNow
to my knowledge. It does not use any of the features of the PIII either,
for that matter.
>Wrong boy. These are official SPEC benchmarks, which of course has been
>verified by the SPEC organization body.
Boy? Who do you think you are?
Mike.
--
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Mike Frisch Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Northstar Technologies WWW: http://saturn.tlug.org/~mfrisch
Newmarket, Ontario, CANADA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Celeron, what's the catch?
Date: 4 Jul 1999 03:49:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 03 Jul 1999 20:30:57 GMT,
kls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>5. Build your own.
Good choice!
> It's cheaper
Than what? Never really turns out that way.
> & you can get what you want.
Absolutely. The hunt for parts is the biggest fun. Unless you expect
to be spoon fed for the next few years, this will be the real
education...
> Setting up linux is harder.
Say what? Pop the CD into the drive, reboot and answer ``Yes'' to
``Install everything.'' What is hard about that? Of course, you
already checked carefully that the hardware you bought has drivers, say
what?
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Fincher)
Subject: help with sound
Date: 04 Jul 1999 04:36:43 GMT
I have an Amptron 9100 motherboard which includes onboard sound. I'd like to
get the sound working in linux (it works in win98 already, although the PnP
seemed a bit strange...I had to force win98 to find the drivers on the win98
disk)
I have all the information for IRQs and DMAs and all that jazz in my
control_panel/system thingie. I just don't know which one sndconfig wants, and
couldn't fiddle with it enough to get some sound out.
Are there any suggestions? Tips?
Thanks,
Jeremy
==================================
If i ever forget to capitalize a proper noun, forgive me. i'm a big fan of ee
cummings
My ICQ # is 28153190. My AIM/AOL name is either jemfinch02 or Cassius80.
Have a good day, and good luck in your endeavors!
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help
From: fmiller1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: how to setup mandrake 6 for a cable modem
Reply-To: fmiller1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:10:12 GMT
In <_upf3.60641$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "anthonymelillo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I am trying to install Mandrake 6, and if I can get it to go past the
>network card detection, I was wondering if anyone tell me how to setup Linux
>to work with my cable modem ?
>
>I have an extra IP for this machine and all the specs, such as IP, gateway,
>ect but I do not know how to setup Linux so I can access the FTP, and web
>servers from other machines ?
>
>Also, can I setup linux so I can access the hard disk from my Win98 machine
>through my home network and copy files, ect ?
>
>--
>Anthony Melillo
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
You could look around here:
http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~mcumings/cablemodem/
http://edge.fireplug.net
http://larkin.nuclearwinter.com/rros2/LoginSoftware.html
http://members.home.com/nickoljt/networking.html
http://members.home.net/adaviel/Upgrade.html
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Cable-Modem.html
http://rlz.ne.mediaone.net/linux/
http://smaug.fammed.ohio-state.edu/shane/rr/
http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Cable-Modem.html
http://usmcug.usm.maine.edu/~kpesce/rr/
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/modems.html
http://www.cablemodeminfo.com
http://www.linuxhq.com/HOWTO/mini/Cable-Modem.html
http://www.monmouth.com/~jay/Linux/
http://www.vortech.net/rrlinux/
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From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Celeron, what's the catch?
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 21:37:11 -0700
The only catch is that Dell computers are pricey as hell. Look at their
stock price. These guys are making a killing. Don't buy a boxed system
unless you want to be ripped off. Custom built is the way to go.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Subject: Re: Looking for a SCSI LS-120
Date: 4 Jul 1999 04:30:23 GMT
Ryan S Warner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Call me anal, but I'm looking at what it would take to build an
: _entirely_ SCSI system, down to the floppy drive. I figured since I'll
: need to put a 3.5" disk drive in I might as well make it an LS-120, but
: I really don't want to use IDE. SCSI ZIP drives are easy enough to
: find, but what about the LS-120?
The only one that I know of is Winstation, http://www.winstation.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Poe)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Celeron, what's the catch?
Date: 4 Jul 1999 04:15:57 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:
: Never buy computer systems from a school. They will rob you blind.
:
That's not _always_ true.
I used to work at a university that had a commitee that proposed system
specs for new/returning students. These specs were sent to the largest
manufacturers (GW2K, Dell, IBM, HP, Apple, etc) and they chose whether or
not to offer a specially priced package to the students (through the
university computer sales store). If they got the prices to us by a
certain time, they would be included in a flyer sent to all new students.
Prices were generally cheaper than going directly to the manufacturer
(not a ton, but it was something), or they offered a system which could
not be replicated out of their regular lineup, so their was no direct
comparison.
re: celeron performance, for the most part, it's equal to a P-2 of
similar speed. it will lose out on situations that thrive on large L2
cache, such as SQL servers, or are RAM bound, such as matrix manipulation
The 128KB is relatively large and is twice as fast as P2 L2. Also if a
program segment fits within the cache, RAM access becomes moot. All of
which can contribute to the Celeron outperforming a P2 in specific
circumstances.
I'd imagine that on a Linux machine with many threads, a P2 would
outperform a Celeron (larger cache supports more threads? memory access
and paging?), but not by so much. In any case, bang/buck should still
easily go to celeron
:
: In no particular order:
:
: 1. Go directly to www.dell.com to check out the latest prices.
: 2. Check out the local guys from one of the local computer mags.
: 3. www.valueamerica.com.
: 4. www.comtrade.com
:
: When you buy out of state, you will not have to pay sale tax.
:
:
: On Sat, 3 Jul 1999 04:16:38 -0400, "FM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:
: >I'm buying a PC soon for college (from college) and the standard package
: >offered (http://www.dartmouth.edu/comp/newstudentinfo/buying/hardware.html)
: >is Celeron 433, 6GB, 64MB, 15" (quite the worst point) etc. While I have not
: >seen the specs of higher-end systems or the price, but so far it seems that
: >this one will fit my budget best (well their systems seemed a bit overpriced
: >despite alleged academic discounts;
: >http://www.dartmouth.edu/~store/pricelist.html). But before making the
: >decision, I'd like some information on Celeron systems since I have some
: >reservation about the chip (I guess due to some early criticism I didn't
: >really heed but was exposed to nevertheless). First, does it perform as well
: >as the benchmarks suggest? I've seen some FPU benchmarks indicating that
: >Celeron outperforms similarly clocked PII and some Integer benchmarks where
: >it still holds fairly well. But do these benchmarks reflect the overall
: >system performance considering the slower bus speed (66mhz) and other
: >compromises? Second, are there any particular application areas where
: >Celeron fares poorly? For example my hunch is that its design (smaller but
: >faster L2 cache) wouldn't favor applications that require intensive but
: >repetitive memory/disk access (server? compilers?) but is the difference
: >worth noting?
: >
: >As for my use, it will be primarily used as a desktop Linux machine (Redhat
: >6.0 with GNOME or KDE) with some casual server daemons like http, ftp,
: >telnet, etc. Other tasks would include (ordered by approximate
: >frequency/priority) wordprocessing, internet client apps,
: >programming/compilation, image-manipulation (small-scale for my
: >yet-to-be-purchased digital camera and yet-to-be published webpage), MP3
: >(incase I can't afford a stereo), fractals, and maybe some chess programs
: >(hmm maybe this is where Celeron might show its weaknesses?). I'm not
: >planning on playing games much and when I do, I'm unusually tolerant of
: >low-res/low-framerate, not to mention that I'm not into modern
: >graphic-intensive 3D shootemups (yeah I'm the guy who used to play starcraft
: >on P75 overclocked to P100 and didn't find the setup disturbing at all). I
: >will also have a 2-gig partition for Win98 for compatibility reasons
: >(barring a scenario where I actually get to purchase vmware, which seems
: >nice but a bit expensive).
: >
: >Any answers to any of the above questions or any relevent
: >information/point/discussion regarding my inquiry would be extremely
: >appreciated. And thanks in advance to those who made it this far through the
: >rambling (with all the parenthetic nonsense).
: >
: >Dan.
: >
: >
:
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