Linux-Hardware Digest #661, Volume #12 Tue, 11 Apr 00 23:13:50 EDT
Contents:
Idea !!! ("Akbar Avliyaev")
Canon BJC-4200 (Ronald J Roy)
Re: Idea !!! (Alexander Viro)
Re: Linux (doesn't) suck ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux sucks (eyez)
Re: Linux (doesn't) suck (eyez)
Re: eth0 failed (Mark Bratcher)
Re: Linux sucks (Mark Bratcher)
mouse makes noise (jl)
DHCP not working in kernel 2.2.x, was OK in 2.0.36 (Mark Bratcher)
Serial Port Configuration: ("Marc Rosen")
Re: Linux sucks (eyez)
101 key keyboards (Clueless Bozo)
Re: Cable Modem Tweaks In Linux? (Cihl)
Re: Linux vs Windows docs (was: Re: Linux sucks) (Andy Guibert)
Logitech mouse ("MC")
Logitech mouse?! Part2 ("MC")
Re: Logitech mouse (Cihl)
Controling computer with Remote.
Re: Will a plextor ide cdrw 8/4/32 work? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Which of these Ethernet Cards? (Darin Triplett)
which PCI card is compatible? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8rgen?= Best)
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From: "Akbar Avliyaev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Idea !!!
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:44:32 -0500
The main problem of Linux is hardware support.
On the other hand Windows supports most of hardware,
most vendors ship products with drivers for windows.
I'm thinking about making a way to use windows drivers in Linux.
Have anyone thought about it?
Is it reasonable/possible?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ronald J Roy)
Subject: Canon BJC-4200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:58:57 GMT
Has anyone got a 4200 to print with rh6.1? I
managed to print postscript, but the color is
too light and the quality poor. I have checked everywhere
for errors, but it seems fine. I just want it to look as
good as it does when gs is used to view it.
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2,EPP]
parport0: Printer, Canon BJC-4200
lp0: using parport0 (polling).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Idea !!!
Date: 11 Apr 2000 14:03:16 -0400
In article <8cvoar$svq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Akbar Avliyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The main problem of Linux is hardware support.
>On the other hand Windows supports most of hardware,
>most vendors ship products with drivers for windows.
>I'm thinking about making a way to use windows drivers in Linux.
What an original idea. It's certainly impossible that DN would
keep a dozen of archived flamew^Wthreads exactly about that, isn't it?
>Have anyone thought about it?
Have you thought about checking?
>Is it reasonable/possible?
Definitely takes more efforts than a search on Dejanews.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Linux (doesn't) suck
Date: 11 Apr 2000 13:49:44 -0400
The good thing about Linux is that it prints messages while booting so you can
see what hardware component is causing the problems.
Windows, just hangs. You have to boot in safe mode and try all permutations
of hardware settings and hope that one of them works.
Richard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (eyez)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux sucks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:22:56 GMT
quoting <Derek Broughton>:
>Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> kevin bailey wrote:
>> >
>> > to me the difference is this :
>> >
>> > with linux,
>> > your installation gets better over time as you sort things out -
>once it is
>> > fixed it stays fixed
>> >
>> > with windows,
>> > it WILL eventually fall over and require reinstalling - and that
>includes
>> > windows NT - microsoft's 'enterprise' operating system
>> >
>> > as windows is falling apart it will drive you mad and suck away
>your life
>>
>> I think that's one of the best short descriptions I've ever heard
>> regarding the difference between Windows and Linux. :-)
>
>I prefer Linux, but I'm afraid it's already driven me mad and sucked
>away my life. Windows never quite achieved that...
linux has driven me mad plenty of times, and has been rather stressful
to work with sometimes. but, It's always been fun for me, even with that.
=)
--
Rando Christensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<perception is reality>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (eyez)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Linux (doesn't) suck
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:24:01 GMT
quoting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>The good thing about Linux is that it prints messages while booting so you can
>see what hardware component is causing the problems.
>
>Windows, just hangs. You have to boot in safe mode and try all permutations
>of hardware settings and hope that one of them works.
>
> Richard
Ah. The ultimate reason that i left windows. =)
--
Rando Christensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<perception is reality>
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: eth0 failed
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:34:44 -0400
Lucky wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Bratcher
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Lucky wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Bratcher
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Hi.
> >> >
> >> >I have kernel 2.2.14, RH6.2, and a 3Com 3c59x card. Using
> DHCP
> >> (no fixed
> >> >IP for the host I'm installing on).
> >> >
> >> >When I had kernel 2.0.36 and RH5.2 running, it all installed
> and
> >> came up
> >> >fine. I'm using DHCP (the DHCP server is another machine on
> the
> >> net).
> >> >However, installing RH6.2 with 2.2.14 fails to initialize the
> >> eth0
> >> >service, although the network card has been recognized and
> >> driver
> >> >initialized (according to /var/log/messages). (I ran into
> this
> >> same
> >> >problem simply trying to upgrade the kernel under RH5.2.)
> >> >
> >> >So, my question is: why does the eth0 service fail? The
> scenario
> >> was
> >> >described in Ethernet-HOWTO and I checked what they said
> about
> >> it, but
> >> >it didn't fix my problem.
> >> >
> >> >Any help appreciated.
> >> >
> >> >Mark
> >> >
> >> >
> >> You usually get one if the cards module is not getting
> installed
> >> at bootup.
> >>
> >
> >But my boot log shows that the card _is_ getting installed at
> bootup. So
> >I don't see what the problem is.
> >
> >Anyone have any ideas?
> >
> >Thanks
> >Mark
> >
> >
> OK then try using "pump" to initialize the card. That worked for
> me once when nothing else would. 6.2 should already have it
> installed.
Pump fails. /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup uses pump and that's
what fails on DHCP.
If I set a fixed IP for my workstation, the network comes up.
This works fine with kernel 2.0.36. It fails on kernel 2.2.x. It seems
that something is fundamentally different in the handling of DHCP with
kernel 2.2.x. It just won't come up on DHCP.
Any other ideas?
mark
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux sucks
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:36:21 -0400
None wrote:
>
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:18:44 -0400, Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >kevin bailey wrote:
> >>
> >> to me the difference is this :
> >>
> >> with linux,
> >> your installation gets better over time as you sort things out - once it is
> >> fixed it stays fixed
> >>
> >> with windows,
> >> it WILL eventually fall over and require reinstalling - and that includes
> >> windows NT - microsoft's 'enterprise' operating system
> >>
> >> kev
> >>
> >> as windows is falling apart it will drive you mad and suck away your life
> >
> >I think that's one of the best short descriptions I've ever heard
> >regarding the difference between Windows and Linux. :-)
>
> That is perhaps the coolest part about my linux system. Nothing is
> hidden from me. I can remove whatever I want. I configuration is all
> open and available. Its easy to know what needs to be backed up. If
> you need to, rebuilding a machine is trivial, and _all_ your setting
> just come back. It doesn't decay with use like NT/95/98/(00?).
And my favorite aspect of Linux is that I only reboot it when _I_ want
to. Windows must be rebooted whenever _it_ wants to. :-)
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From: jl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: mouse makes noise
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:35:30 +0200
hi
i've got a problem with my intellimouse.
the sound card makes noise when i move the mouse, it's very boring !
i have a mandrake 7.0
someone told me that it was a problem with interrupts.
what can i do to fix that ?
thanks
(please forgive my english)
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DHCP not working in kernel 2.2.x, was OK in 2.0.36
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:39:58 -0400
Hi All,
WHen I upgraded my Linux kernel to 2.2.x from 2.0.36 my DHCP stopped
working.
My PC recognizes the network card, and it works if I set a fixed IP for
my workstation. But when I try to connect via DHCP, it fails. During
boot, the initialization of eth0 service fails.
The initialization of the service is a call to
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup. I tried running it by hand and
watching what's going on, but I can't spot any obvious clues. It fails
on the call to 'pump'.
Any help appreciated.
Mark
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From: "Marc Rosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Serial Port Configuration:
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:46:57 -0500
I am trying to install apcc's powerchute software to control shutdown in
case
of power loss (using APCC's Back UPS 500)
There is a serial cable connecting from the ttyS1 port to the back of the
UPS.
when running the software's config, I get the following error:
/dev/ttyS1 verified as a valid tty
The following Port validations for /dev/ttyS1 may take a few moments....
/dev/ttyS1 appears to be a local control port
============================================================================
WARNING: Port must be configured for modem control in order to work with a
"Simple" Signaling UPS
============================================================================
the settings for port ttyS1 are:
# stty -a < /dev/ttyS1
speed 2400 baud; rows 0; columns 0; line = 0;
intr = <undef>; quit = <undef>; erase = <undef>; kill = <undef>; eof = ^A;
eol = ^A; eol2 = <undef>; start = M-^?; stop = M-^?; susp = M-^?; rprnt =
^A;
werase = ^Q; lnext = ^S; flush = M-^?; min = 0; time = 1;
-parenb -parodd cs8 hupcl -cstopb cread clocal -crtscts
-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr igncr -icrnl ixon
ixoff
-iuclc -ixany -imaxbel
opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0
ff0
isig icanon iexten -echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop -echoprt
echoctl echoke
What do I need to do to change the port to "modem" ...
Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (eyez)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux sucks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:52:25 GMT
quoting <Mark Bratcher>:
>And my favorite aspect of Linux is that I only reboot it when _I_ want
>to. Windows must be rebooted whenever _it_ wants to. :-)
My favorite thing to laugh at is how winnows has to reboot to change
your netwoprk card's IP address. ;)
--
Rando Christensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<perception is reality>
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:26:29 -0400
From: Clueless Bozo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 101 key keyboards
I'm having a hard time finding keyboards without the extra keys specific to a
certain software vendor. Anybody know a source for 101 key keyboards? I
really like lightweight cheapies.
Thanks,
CB
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From: Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cable Modem Tweaks In Linux?
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:23:50 GMT
Lucky wrote:
> I see all sorts of tweaks for Windows to tweak your download
> speeds when using a cable modem. Are there any tweaks for Linux?
>
> * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network *
> The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
First, check the max. speed of your cable modem.
Then, check the speed of your downloads.
See any similarities there? ;-)
No need for download-accelerators here. That's a typical Windows-thing. (You
could check on freshmeat or linuxberg though. Maybe there is one, you never
know.)
(I have a cable modem, too)
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From: Andy Guibert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Linux vs Windows docs (was: Re: Linux sucks)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:43:36 -0400
Please excuse the length of the post.
John Jordan wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nickolaus Dekay) dijo a todos por la internet:
>
> >On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:06:25 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Jordan) wrote:
> >>Oh, and I still don't know what a gateway is. Or why it is important.
> >>Or where to figure out what address I should enter for the gateway.
> >A gateway is the node in the network chain that is further up than you, which
> >you send data to and it then tries to route.
> It helps a little. What is a node? Where is "further up"? Why does it
> route the data and what does the gateway have to do with where it
> routes it?
Put simply, a gateway is a computer or a device that your computer talks to when it
has difficulty finding another station on the network. Generally, this device knows
more about the network than your computer does. A gateway can be a computer that
your Internet Service Provider (ISP) makes available, this is almost always the case
when you dial out to the internet, and even when you have an always on connection. A
"node" is a computer, anywhere on the network. When someone refers to "further up"
on a network, they're talking about a computer that is closer than you are to the
source or destination of data (we'll call data, "IP packets"). Your ISP is always
further up than you are, they're the ones that are providing you service, are
therefore always one step closer. Keep in mind that you connect to one of their
machines in order to get IP packets. You need to picture an inverted tree, and don't
take it personally, but you're at the bottom of it (we all are... hehe). If
computers (nodes) were leaves, the ISPs we dial into are branches and are therefore
"further up" in the network than we are.
Now, keep in mind that branches can fork out into multiple sub branches, and are
connected to other branches, through "further up" connections. As a leaf, your
node/computer doesn't know how to get to a leaf that's connected to another branch.
This is where the concept of a gateway comes in handy. Your gateway is the computer
that's providing you network access (it wouldn't be your gateway if it wasn't). In
the case of a dialup internet connection, your gateway is the computer that you're
dialed into (what is called a "peer"). So when your computer is asking for cnn.com,
it doesn't have a clue where this computer is located and will query its gateway.
Likewise, your ISP won't have a clue either, and will query it's provider, and
forward the request to another machine.
Keep in mind that the internet is a network of networks, and therefore the single
tree concept only applies to your "network" (inverted tree). Like I stated
previously the internet consists of millions of networks, and these are
interconnected through what you'd consider the foot of the millions of trees but are
called point-of-persences (POPs, don't mistake with the E-Mail POP2/3 protocol).
But, there is no spot on the internet that sees all internet traffic. This feature
allows a POP to go down, and relatively no significant network outages (in the grand
scheme of things). With some rather minute changes (done automatically these days),
packets that normally go through the the down-ed POP can get "routed" through
another POP, as they always follow the path of least resistance. This was
interesting for the US government in case of ballistic warfare, so that
communication between 2 centers wouldn't be lost because a link between them was
taken out.
These days, ISPs usually have have several POPs and multiple links between them and
other providers, with which they exchange data.
> What is dhcpd?
dhcpd is a piece of software, that implements the DHCP protocol. That doesn't help
any, does it? :) Maybe the meaning of this acronym will: Dynamic Host Configuration
Protocol. DHCP allows a computer's owner not to have to type in any settings. This
is really cool for end-users and administrators alike, because it's a really neat
way to idiot a network installation. The end user just has to select "DHCP" and he's
on autopilot, so to speak... hehe. Though the inner workings of the dhcp daemon are
irrelevant, there's one thing that you must know about it. It inspects a network
card's globally unique Media Access Control (MAC) identifier and assigns it an IP
address. For a network of up to 5 computers, I wouldn't recommend using DHCP,
because setting it up isn't worth the time. For rather large network installations,
however, when your employer doesn't pay you by the mile, and you're dealing with
some 250 computers in 15 different labs, it's a great tool! You can change
everybody's network settings in just a few lines. :)
> What are ipchains and what are ipchains rulesets?
ipchains is a program that sets up your kernel's firewalling options. When your
Linux box receives an IP packet from any network interface, it inspects it and
decides what to with it. Once the kernel is done inspecting it, it forwards it to
whatever port it's destined to (port 80 for http, 21 for ftp, 23 for telnet,
etc...). Rulesets are the rules that your kernel follows upon arrival of IP packet.
These rulesets are set up by the ipchains program. It is essential for proper
security, to limit the number of programs that are accepting connection from the
internet. This is done by commenting (putting '#') such programs ("daemons") in your
/etc/inet.conf file. Moreover, many sysadmins set up what is called a firewall
(which is nothing more than very thorough rulesets).
> I guess eventually enough people will explain it to me and I might
> figure it out. I think you see my problem though -- people explain
> things to me using vocabulary that is meaningless to me. I need an
> explanation at a much, much lower level. If there's a ranking below
> "novice," that's where I am.
I hope I did just that.
> It might be easier for me to get someone to tell me how to solve my
> problem if I just give the specifics. My home network is --
>
> Linux box HP JetDirect NT computer Win95 laptop
> IP 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.4 192.168.1.1 192,168.1.3
> GW 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.1
> Subnet 255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0
> Name DEVIL2 DEVIL DEVIL3
>
> Linux box: Can ping everything. Can print to the printer. Cannot
> browse either of the other two computers.
>
> NT computer: Can ping everything. Can print. Can see and browse both
> other computers.
>
> Win95 laptop: Can ping everything. Can print. Can browse both other
> computers.
>
> My current diagnosis is that I can't get the Linux box to tell the
> other computers who I am and what my password is. I am using Corel
> Linux with the KDE shell. The workgroup for all three computers is
> named JORDAN, no domain. My username on all three is jcj and I use the
> same password on all three computers.
>
> When I open the Corel Linux file manager and click on Windows network,
> it pops up a dialog box for my password. My username is already
> entered above the password box. It says "\JORDAN\jcj." If I just enter
> my password, it errors out and says "incorrect password." I have tried
> all kinds of things for the username, but evidently I'm not getting it
> right --
Don't panic, it's a little awkward at first, but it only gets easier with time.
Here's what you have to do to get your Windows boxes to co-operate with your Linux
box:
You need to enable cleartext passwords. FTP the appropriate files and run them on
your Win9x and WinNT boxes. On RedHat (I think Corel Linux has them there too), the
files are located in
/usr/doc/samba-2.0.5a/docs/NT4_PlainPassword.reg
/usr/doc/samba-2.0.5a/docs/Win2000_PlainPassword.reg
/usr/doc/samba-2.0.5a/docs/Win95_PlainPassword.reg
/usr/doc/samba-2.0.5a/docs/Win98_PlainPassword.reg
Once these files are run, you'll need to reboot Windows. From there, try connecting
from Linux and see what happens. :)
> Maybe the gateway is wrong. Or the subnet mask. Or it's the wrong phase of the
> moon. I don't know.
> All I know is everything is working except the Linux box can't browse the other
> two computers.
Nah... These settings are correct, especially the 'phase fo the moon'. :) If your
Windows boxes can ping your Linux box and vice versa, the odds are your TCP/IP
Network settings are somewhat correct.
Once again, sorry for the manifesto... ;)
Hope this helps,
Andy
--
=======================================================
Andy Guibert - GNU/Linux & Unix Systems Administrator
======== "STOP the FUD, free() the malloc()s!" ========
=======================================================
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From: "MC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Logitech mouse
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:45:18 +0200
The installation of COREL Linux OS is working fine. But after the first
restart and booting of the KDE my mouse (Logitech First Pilot mouse, serial)
doesn't work! I can't move it anymore! I can only climb through the menus
via the keyboard. That's my problem! I could solve this problem in Win98,
but I'm a absolute newbie in Linux (just want to see what's the difference
between Win and Linux)!
Please help me!
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From: "MC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Logitech mouse?! Part2
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:50:56 +0200
The installation of COREL Linux OS is working fine. But after the first
restart and booting of the KDE my mouse (Logitech First Pilot mouse, serial)
doesn't work! I can't move it anymore! I can only climb through the menus
via the keyboard. That's my problem! I could solve this problem in Win98,
but I'm a absolute newbie in Linux (just want to see what's the difference
between Win and Linux)!
Please help me!
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From: Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Logitech mouse
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:55:09 GMT
MC wrote:
> The installation of COREL Linux OS is working fine. But after the first
> restart and booting of the KDE my mouse (Logitech First Pilot mouse, serial)
> doesn't work! I can't move it anymore! I can only climb through the menus
> via the keyboard. That's my problem! I could solve this problem in Win98,
> but I'm a absolute newbie in Linux (just want to see what's the difference
> between Win and Linux)!
>
> Please help me!
Did you see any mouse configuration in the installation procedure somewhere?
I'm not familiar with Corel Linux but i'm pretty sure the mouse should also be
working during the graphical installation. Did you try switching the mouse to
another com-port? (i mean physically plug it over)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Controling computer with Remote.
Date: 11 Apr 2000 19:56:46 GMT
#include <std/disclaimer.h>
Hello,
I want to control my server with my TV remote. Therfore I recon I will need to
build a IR recever, decode the signial and build a deamon wich will let the
computer preform tasks when a certan 'code' is receved.
Has annyone of you had any experiance with this?
--
grntz
SysV
The internet would be a far better place if PPP and TCP/IP
support was never implemented in microsoft products.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Will a plextor ide cdrw 8/4/32 work?
Date: 11 Apr 2000 16:19:41 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:50:45 GMT, Jim Bisnett
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I am looking to build a system with a plextor 8/4/32 cdrw. Will this
>work under linux? Will it see the ide cdrom at least? Will I be able to
>burn a cd under linux??
Yes, it will work. http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html
for more info. What made you think it *wouldn't* work?
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: Darin Triplett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Which of these Ethernet Cards?
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:20:26 -0700
I would have to disagree with the 3Com bashing, the 3C905 (any version) is about the
fastest 100MB network card there is and if you have a problem with it 3Com offers
great support and a lifetime warranty, easily worth the $69 or whatever you pay in
your area. I also like the Intel cards as they work well under windows or linux and
are also stout performers. I tend to shy away from the bargain basement $19.95 cards
but that's my personal preference, if you want to save some cash and pray that it
works and don't need real performance, go ahead and buy your linksys or netsurf or
whatever.
As far as driver support for the Intel or 3Com cards, there is the obvios company
supported windows drivers along with the generic (Becker) linux drivers which both
work quite well. Intel appears to have had a falling out with the linus crowd on
getting their own driver into the linux kernel package as opposed to the becker
driver but this may have something to do with lack of non x86 support. Intel and
3Com have both written drivers for linux and made them available but as of a couple
months ago I would have to recomend against these as they both may have some kinks
left in them. Current builds of slack also come with the generic linux drivers for
both these cards that work well.
You may have a company preference of 3Com over Intel but either of these cards would
be a great card to have with little hassle and rock solid performance, if you want
something else you take your chances...
Darin
Imperial Direct
Jean-Michel AKA Disk wrote:
> What's wrong with 3com 905 series? It's probably the best card
> (performance/support) right now!
>
> J.M
>
> Ron Reeder wrote:
>
> > Edward Lee wrote:
> > >
> > > I would not pay $69 for Intel or 3com. I vote for Linksys LNE100TX ($15
> > > after rebate here in San Diego) or
> > > Netsurf (RTL8139) 10T/100T ($20) . I have a RTL8029 (eth0), RTL8139 (eth1),
> > > LNE100TX (eth2) and SN3200 (eth3)
> > > on my NFS/Samba server.
> > >
> > No you're all wrong...
> >
> > Get the SIS 10/100
> >
> > $13/Card at local screw shop.
> >
> > Works better than my 3COM 905 by any measure,
> > ease of use, speed. The card just works.
> >
> > Installed it under both all and Linux 2.2.12, 2.2.14, and 2.3.99pre4
> >
> > > >
> > > > > "Dr. Tim Schmidt" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I need to replace a Farallon ethernet card to continue having use of
> > > > > > my cable modem and am looking for feedback and suggestions on what to
> > > > > > get. The card being replaced is a simple PCI 10Base-T card. What I
> > > > > > have availabe to me are the following:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) Linksys Etherfast 10\100 LAN Card ~ $27.00
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) Netgear FA310TX Card ~ $29.95
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3) D-Link DFE-530TX Card ~ $37.00
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4) Intel EitherExpress Pro 10/100 Card ~ $69.00
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am new to Linux/Slack 7.0 so I am not sure which of these are well
> > > > > > supported or run well under Linux. I also dual-boot NT.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your suggestions!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dr. Tim Schmidt
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm using the Netgear FA310-TX. It uses the DEPCA chip from DEC and Red
> > > > > HAT 6.1 uses the tulip.o driver for this card. It works just fine.
> > > >
> > > > You didn't mention the NIC I consider to be the best in the industry ...
> > > > and that's the 3Com 905 (could be B-TX or C-TX or straight 905-TX).
> > > > Before I'd pay 69 bucks for an Intel NIC I'd get a 3Com NIC for the about
> > > > the same price that will not only out perform all the other NICs (when
> > > > splitting hairs) but comes with free tech support and a lifetime warranty.
> > > >
> > > > - RC
> >
> > --
> >
> > +-------------------------------+-------------------------------+
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8rgen?= Best <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: which PCI card is compatible?
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:19:47 GMT
I'm looking for a Linux compatible PCI-card (I've no AGP). My problem is
that in the shop's only newer PCI-cards are sold. When I buy a card I
would like to have the chipset fully supported. Does anyone know a more
recent, available PCI card that is supported by Linux. (I've SuSE 6.2
but that wouldn't be the trouble).
The Suse site tells me only these PCI-cards are compatible:
- Diamond Viper V550 (16 MB, pci)
- Diamond FireGL 1000 (8 MB, pci)
- Diamond FireGL 1000Pro (8 MB, pci)
- Diamond FireGL 3000 (8 MB, pci)
- Matrox Millenium II (with upgrade to 16 MB, pci)
- Matrox Mystique 220 (with upgrade to 8 MB, pci)
Thanks for any suggestion.
J=F8rgen
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