Linux-Hardware Digest #346, Volume #12           Fri, 25 Feb 00 23:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: TNT2 Clock Utility -- Please Help! ("Paul Morris")
  Re: Burned system!? (Carl Fink)
  Burner & External Modem Conflict? (Nathan West)
  Re: Burned system!? (ajam)
  Re: 2.2.x SMP and DK440LX issues ("D. Stimits")
  Re: /proc/interrupts (Vladimir Florinski)
  Re: Redhat 6.1 and 4mb ATI Rage Mobility M Video Chipset (IbmThinkpad  (Jim Frost)
  modem problem (asage)
  Re: Problems installing RH on Thinkpad 750cs (Nathan West)
  Re: is there somo Multi I/O CARDS suported?? (rontenny)
  Re: 2.2.x SMP and DK440LX issues (Dmitri A. Sergatskov)
  Re: Update on Linux + OS/2 + Win2k system ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Update on Linux + OS/2 + Win2k system ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Drivers for MGA G400 (Dances With Crows)
  Re: 3-button serial mouse (Richard Ashton)
  Re: What about the Qube? (Christopher Browne)
  Adding New Larger Hard Drive To Old Machine  (mike)
  Re: Trident based cards? (Harvey Bodine)
  Re: 3-button serial mouse (James Silverton)

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From: "Paul Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.hardware.overclocking,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
Subject: Re: TNT2 Clock Utility -- Please Help!
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 00:52:06 -0000

where can i get these  3.75 Drivers from ???


"Pollytron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8945r9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Odessit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi� en el mensaje de noticias
> 88mdgm$rej$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Hah, man you are screwed. I had tried to create such program, but
> > Nvidia will NOT provide any info about hardware/software of their cards
> > (and I did not even mentioned the "O" word.)
> > Try to decompile one of the Win9X versions, it may give you some clues.
> > Good Luck man> > --
> > Vladimir Doisan (AKA ODESSIT)
> > Odessity Vseh Stran Obedenyaites
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>
> on new drivers > 3.75 there is a memory and core speed utility built-in
>
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Burned system!?
Date: 26 Feb 2000 00:06:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just out of curiosity, what makes a problem with the case/power
supply a Linux-specific question?
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Guest of Honor in 2000 will be Geoffrey
A. Landis.  See <http://www.iconsf.org> for I-Con information.

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From: Nathan West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Burner & External Modem Conflict?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 20:14:17 -0500

My external modem (whether on ttyS0 or ttyS1) seems to conflict with my
cdrom drive and burner.  Here's why I think so:

The throughput of my modem stops completely if I start to write a Disc,
and both modem throughput and CD-Read performance (in CDparanoia) on my
CD-ROM drive reduce significantly when active simultaneously.

Once while writing a disc, starting network services (i.e.
/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start) aborted the write process. (recoverable
error... [but error was not recovered])

I swapped my modem to the other serial port but still no dice.  Is it
possible that I am simply out of interrupts?  Here's what I have on the
machine:

2 IDE drives configured as 4 soft RAID parts, 2 swap parts, 1 ext2 part

1 CDROM, ! CDWriter, IDE/ATAPI, using ide-scsi Following is partial
output of 'cdrecord -scanbus'

-scsibus0:
        0,0,0     0) 'TOSHIBA ' 'DVD-ROM SD-M1102' '1026' Removable
CD-ROM
        0,1,0     1) 'MITSUMI ' 'CR-2801TE       ' '1.07' Removable
CD-ROM

1 AGP GRAPHICS CARD

1 SB64 ISA

1 3C905B PCI

Parallel port in use by HP882c

System runs RH6.1, is P2 - 400 w/128 mb ram.

Any help diagnosing and fixing the problem is greatly appreciated!

Thankfully yours,
Nathan West

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From: ajam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Burned system!?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 20:26:39 -0500

Nothing.  I just happen to be running Linux in that machine, and this is
a hardware-related newsgroup.  Didn't you read what I wrote before?
Thanks for your time!

cheers, ajam


Carl Fink wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, what makes a problem with the case/power
> supply a Linux-specific question?
> --
> Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I-Con's Science and Technology Guest of Honor in 2000 will be Geoffrey
> A. Landis.  See <http://www.iconsf.org> for I-Con information.


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:15:50 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: 2.2.x SMP and DK440LX issues

"Dmitri A. Sergatskov" wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I updated multiple dual-CPU computers to RedHat 6.1 and recently
> noticed that the computer built around Intel DK440LX (2X 333 MHz P-II)
> motherboard has some "problem" in SMP mode. All benchmarks I tried
> (MATLAB bench() or custom compiled Fortran code) are running

If the program isn't written with threads to take advantage of SMP, it
won't run any faster. If the operations being run cannot be run
concurrently, i.e., one must complete before the other starts, it
won't help. If there is overhead from dual cpu support when dual cpu
isn't being helpful, it will run slower. I propose you do this test:
run two completely separate instances of matlab at the same time,
doing the exact same program. Compare the overall times for two
instances when running SMP versus not.

And if you are swapping out at all, and have insufficient ram to do a
lot of caching, you will lose an extreme amount of advantage of dual
cpu. In the time it takes to swap out, you've lost a very large amount
of work that a 2nd cpu has been starved for. If you can't take maximum
advantage of caching (even if not swapping), you are still starving
pipelines. So if you are already low on ram, ignore the above tests
until you can get more ram.

> significantly (almost twice, but varies) slower in SMP mode than in UP
> mode. In UP mode the numbers are the same as with similar system built
> on 440BX motherboard (also 2X333Mhz) and the same as they used to be
> with RedHat 5.2 (and earlier) and 2.0.x kernels.
> 
> The simplest "benchmark" I tried is the following trivial loop:
> 
>       double precision x,y,z,sum
>       integer i,j,k
>       sum = 0.0d0
>       do i = 1, 1000
>       do j = 1, 1000
>       do k = 1, 100
>       sum = sum + real(i)*real(j)/real(k)
>       end do
>       end do
>       end do
>       write (6,*) sum
>       end
> 
> On LX machine 'time -v' gives: 11.5 sec. user, 5.5 sec. system (18 elapsed)
> and approx  100 page faults (in case it matters), on BX the same binary
> would result in: 11.5 sec. user, 0.1 sec system (11.5 elapsed)and also
> 100 page faults.
> The difference is even worse for memory intensive code.
> 
> If I boot LX machine into SMP mode but with 'noapic' kernel argument it
> runs the code as well as BX (but PCI would not work).
> 
> I tried 2.2.12 (stock RH6.1 and custom compiled) and 2.2.15(from RH6.2beta)
> with identical results.
> I do not no if I can easily run 2.0.x kernel on RH6.1 but I will try.
> 
> I do not see any error messages in /var/log/messages or elsewhere.
> Bogomips or OK (cat
> 
> All suggestions and advises would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Dmitri.
> 
> p.s.:
> 
> Both computers have 512MB SDRAM and essentially identical CPUs.
> 
> cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor       : 0
> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
> cpu family      : 6
> model           : 5
> model name      : Pentium II (Deschutes)
> stepping        : 0
> cpu MHz         : 333.061631
> cache size      : 512 KB
> fdiv_bug        : no
> hlt_bug         : no
> sep_bug         : no
> f00f_bug        : no
> coma_bug        : no
> fpu             : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level     : 2
> wp              : yes
> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr
> bogomips        : 332.60
> 
> processor       : 1
> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
> cpu family      : 6
> model           : 5
> model name      : Pentium II (Deschutes)
> stepping        : 0
> cpu MHz         : 333.061631
> cache size      : 512 KB
> fdiv_bug        : no
> hlt_bug         : no
> sep_bug         : no
> f00f_bug        : no
> coma_bug        : no
> fpu             : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level     : 2
> wp              : yes
> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr
> bogomips        : 332.60

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From: Vladimir Florinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /proc/interrupts
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:18:07 -0700

Buller wrote:
> 
> I changed the BIOS interrupt setting for the LAN card to 0xf.... and
> most all the interrupts magically changed to "IO-APIC-*" instead of the
> original "XT-PIC":
> New /proc/interrupts
> [buller@linux2 ~]$ cat /proc/interrupts
>            CPU0
>   0:     466031    IO-APIC-edge  timer
>   1:       1223    IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
>   2:          0          XT-PIC  cascade
>   8:          1    IO-APIC-edge  rtc
>  12:       2635    IO-APIC-edge  PS/2 Mouse
>  13:          1          XT-PIC  fpu
>  14:      15610    IO-APIC-edge  ide0
>  15:         45   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
>  16:      19825   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
>  29:         30   IO-APIC-level  ncr53c8xx
>  32:    2228969   IO-APIC-level  ncr53c8xx
>  33:       7171   IO-APIC-level  Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100 Ethernet
> NMI:          0
> ERR:          0
> [buller@linux2 ~]$
> 
> What is the difference between XT-PIC and IO-APIC-level/edge?  (I
> understand the concept of level and edge triggered interrupts, its the
> "XT-PIC and IO-APIC" part that I don't understand the significance of ).
> 
> Which type of interrupt is Linux most stable with?  XT-PIC or IO-APIC-*?
> 
> Why would changing one device from Interrupt 9 to 0xf cause this much
> change to all the other devices?
> 

APIC, I believe, means "Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller". Some
information can be found in the kernel documentation
(/usr/src/linux/Documentation/IO-APIC.txt). APIC, apparently, gives you 32
interrupts instead of the usual 16. However, you normally don't need to go into
BIOS to configure these things - use setpci to change interrupts.
-- 


Vladimir

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From: Jim Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.problems
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.1 and 4mb ATI Rage Mobility M Video Chipset (IbmThinkpad 
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 01:46:04 GMT

Che Ma wrote:
> > The particular description you're pointing to is out-of-date; XFree86 3.5.x's
> > Mach64 server does support the Mobility chipset so you don't need patches.
> 
> The current stable release from xfree86.org is 3.3.6, the snapshots are 3.9.15~18.
> The Mach64 from 3.3.6 does not for Mobility M 4MB without patch, although it claim
> it does.
> I have not tried the snapshots yet.  Where can you get 3.5.x Mach84 server?

You're right, my mistake.  I was thinking 3.3.5.  I guess that's what I get
for writing stuff at 1am :-).

I am using 3.3.5 on the Mobility chipset on my Dell.  The release of XFree86
that came with RH 6.0 (3.3.3?) did not work at all (gave an "unrecognized
chipset" error or some such).

I think we may be talking at both sides of the issue.  3.3.5 did not work
correctly for me either, although it did recognize the chipset.  The display
was misaligned (graphics offset and overlapped horizontally for about 1/3 of
the display).  The vga= line forced initialization by the BIOS and corrected
this issue.  So it "works" with that tweak and it "doesn't work" without it. 
That might explain our difference in experience.

It wouldn't suck to get a version that works correctly without the tweak,
although I have to say that I kind of like having it boot up with the little
penguin :-) and it's been working quite well for me.

jim

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From: asage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: modem problem
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 20:48:13 -0500

Hi, hope somebody can help a newbie <g>  My regular modem turns out to
be a Winmodem.  I have an external modem that I've tried to hook up in a
couple of different configurations, but it ain't working.

In addition, Windows has my Winmodem on Com 5 ( I know that's not the
same as I/O port), with IRQ 12.  Windows was finding my serial modem,
and had assigned it to Com 2 with IRQ 3.  When I tried to use it, it
wasn't connecting, so probably the physical configuration was wrong.
Also, in Linux, I assigned ttyS1 with irq 3 to the serial modem, and
linked it to /dev/modem~, but when I ran kppp to try to connect, the
modem couldn't be found.  I tried setserial with -v on ttyS1 and it did
come back with the right particulars, except that there was no uart
value, which I have read is not necessarily a problem, especially since
my serial modem is _very_ old (and slow!) - it's a USRobotics 14.4
v42bis.

I'd really appreciate help.

A. Sage

--
Along the narrow carpet ride,
with primroses on either side,
Between their shadows and the sun,
the cows came slowly, one by one.

A.A. Milne



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From: Nathan West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problems installing RH on Thinkpad 750cs
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 20:48:36 -0500

Scott wrote:
> 
>    I'm having the exact same problem on my PentiumII home system.  I put
> the boot floppy in and I get that kernel panic error/unable to mount
> drive.  If I use FIPS it shows my extended DOS partition as Oh("unknown
> file system").  I'm not really sure what is going on but I'd be
> interested if you do find a solution.
> 
> Pranab Nag wrote:
> >
> > I just got a Thinkpad 750cs with floppy drive and a D-link pcmcia
> > ethernet card. I attempted many times to install various versions of
> > Redhat using FTP.
> > These are my frustrating experience.
> >
> > a. RH6.0 and 6.1 bootnet.img floppy just stops after a while with the
> > message: crc error - kernel panic - unable to mount 08:21 (something
> > like this)
> >
> > b. I tried RH5.2 which to my suprise went a long way till it started
> > installing packages. Several packages like dev, makedev, etc failed to
> > install. At the end it failed to make bootdisk and write lilo to MBR.

There is a new boot image on the redhat ftp:
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/updates/current/images/i386/pcmcia-RHEA-1999-044.img 

Give that a shot.  I couldn't get RedHat to network install on my
755Cs.  Debian 2.1 installed easily, although I still can't boot from
the hard drive.

Good luck

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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:15:32 -0500
From: rontenny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: is there somo Multi I/O CARDS suported??


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I need to know if ther is some multi I/O boards soported in linux, I
> am talking about devices that can detect 16 or more digital inputs
> signals, or 16 or more digital outputs.
> Actually we use PCL 720, PCL722, and ACL-7130 in
> a Lynx-RT systems, and we are porting this system to linux.....

I saw your post in the ng and wanted to let you know that our
company has 3 Stallion OnBoard-32 port boards with ISA cards that
are no longer needed.

Pulled from a working SCO Unix system, drivers available from
Stallion Technology for Linux also.

These are a cheap, easy way to get lots of ports for terminals,
printers and modems.  If interested, reply directly and I will 
give you more details.

Regards, Ron

Ron Tenny     Operation Mobilization-USA
Tyrone, GA  30290       770-631-0432 x 150 (work)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                  0938 (home)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dmitri A. Sergatskov)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: 2.2.x SMP and DK440LX issues
Date: 26 Feb 2000 02:41:10 GMT

On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:15:50 -0700, D. Stimits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Dmitri A. Sergatskov" wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I updated multiple dual-CPU computers to RedHat 6.1 and recently
>> noticed that the computer built around Intel DK440LX (2X 333 MHz P-II)
>> motherboard has some "problem" in SMP mode. All benchmarks I tried
>> (MATLAB bench() or custom compiled Fortran code) are running
>
>If the program isn't written with threads to take advantage of SMP, it
>won't run any faster. If the operations being run cannot be run

You have not read what I wrote. So I will try again.

I have multiple SMP computers all running RH6.1
One of them with DK440LX motherboard run simple executable
(which does not attempt to use multiple CPUs) significantly slower
then others (with the same clock/CPUs). 
If I reboot it to uniprocessor mode then it runs fast.
Computer has 512Meg of RAM and the test program I posted probably 
fits entirely in L1 cache.

The problem showed up after upgrading from RH5.2(2.0.36 kernel) to
RH 6.1 (2.2.x kernels).

.....some irrelevant recollections on SMP systems are deleted......


Sincerely,

Dmitri.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.storage
Subject: Re: Update on Linux + OS/2 + Win2k system
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:36:27 -0500

In <FAlt4.759$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/25/00 
   at 09:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Crudup) said:

>In article <38b5e333$3$ovryyvat$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says:

>>Also, I can't afford a home system.  At circa $30,000 a pop
>>I'd rather buy a car, pay off the house, etc.

>What costs $30 grand?

The proprietary (read: "licensed") PC system with WinNT4 and Unix running
as an application.

>>But having VMWare doesn't preclude having the software on the harddrive,
>>does it?

>Nope. In fact, it's best to run VMware's copy of Windows on one of their
>"fake" IDE disks that are really bitmap representations on disks that are
>linux ext2 files.

Having double negative trouble here.  ;-)

Let me ask again.  If I do not have any OS installed at first, then
install Linux, install VMware next -- can I then run Windows on VMware
without installing a Microsoft product?

I understand NT (or at least 2000) has the ability to run virtual file
systems.  No big surprise, I guess.  I can place DOS programs on an HPFS
partition and run it from within OS/2 and the DOS proggy runs fine.


Thanks,
Duane

-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.storage
Subject: Re: Update on Linux + OS/2 + Win2k system
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:43:39 -0500

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/25/00 
   at 09:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Stephenson) said:

>In article <FAlt4.759$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>          [EMAIL PROTECTED] enquires, innocently:

>> What costs $30 grand?

>Windows 2000 TCO ?

What's TCO?

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Drivers for MGA G400
Date: 25 Feb 2000 22:23:37 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:06:47 +0800, Ko Alex <<8978re$igc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
shouted forth into the ether:
>Hi, everybody. I'm new in the Linux's World. I had setup the Linux but
>cannot run the X Windows as it does not suppot my display card (MGA G400).
>Would anyone tell me where could I download the display driver for X window,

XFree86 3.3.5 and higher support the Matrox G400.  (Is that what you meant
by "MGA"?  I know of no other graphics cards that have G400 in their
names.)  Most recent distros ship with Xfree86 3.3.5 or higher, so you
must be using an older one.  Next time you post, please give more
information, including which distro you are using (RedHat 6.0, SuSE 6.3,
Caldera 2.2...) I put together a guide to upgrading at the URL below, or
you can check the official instructions at the other URL.  HTH, HAND.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mhgraham/UpgradeXfree.html
http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/RELNOTES.html

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows        \          In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity   \----\    there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see     \    
    ===== Usenet: ceci n'est pas une guerre des flammes =====


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Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: 3-button serial mouse
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Richard Ashton <{R}@pink.semolina.org>
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 03:29:04 GMT

On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:53:02 -0500, James Silverton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

}Matthew Malthouse wrote:
}> 
}> In article <894lsv$2cl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
}> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C. Newport) wrote:
}> 
}> } The optical mice which require a special cross-hatched pad are much
}> } better in dirty situations. A quick wipeover of the pad with a screen
}> } wipe usually solves the problem.
}> }
}> } Unfortunately such critters are somewhat scarce nowadays, although
}> } they are still an option for Sun kit.
}> 
}> Eek!  I've had to use them from the days when they were the only option for
}> Suns and I HATE them, truely and utterly detest.  The wipe clean notion
}> would be fine if they worked in any reasonable manner even when pristine.
}
}Has anyone used the newer optical mice that don't require a pad?

If you mean the Logitech TrackBall which has a giant ball, yes this works
great in Suse 6.3. I want to by another does anyone know if the Logitech
Trackman Marble Wheel is supported by linux, the wheel bit that is ?

{R}

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: What about the Qube?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 03:45:45 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Dr. Evil would say:
>Is this Qube any good? It looks greats but would you spent $1000 on a
>PC or this box, if you just want a cheap server?

It's not what you want for a "cheap" server; it's what you want for a
*small, low-maintenance* server.
-- 
The hypochondriac's epitaph: "NOW will you believe me?" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adding New Larger Hard Drive To Old Machine 
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 22:53:30 -0500

Hi,
    I have a five year old Pentium 166 box and have a 6.2 GB
hard drive. I want to replace it with a larger one.
I have heard that computers, especially older ones have
limits on how large a hard drive can be recognized.
   How can I tell how large a hard drive my system can
accept?          (IDE Type)


                                            Thanks

                                                Mike


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From: Harvey Bodine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trident based cards?
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:00:56 GMT

Thanks Josh,

Thanks for the info. I may mess with the configuration options a little
more,
but after that if I'm still having problems I'm just going to toss the
card 
and put in a replacement.

Harvey Bodine

Josh wrote:
> 
> I'm running Mandrake 6.1 on a P133/64mb, monitor= 30-69khz Hor and 50-120hz
> vert. that can do 1280x1024 at 60hz.  after messing w/ Xconfigurator and
> xf86config, I've got it running at 1024x768 w/ no virtual screen, however,
> if I restart the X server, it defaults to 600x800 w/ a 1024x768 virtual
> screen.  I'll just keep it here, as this is a good setting for me.  I also
> have a problem w/ small dashes left on the screen when I close a window.
> They erase, but are annoying.
> 
> 
> Harvey Bodine wrote:
> >
> > Hi Josh,
> >
> > Have you been able to get this Trident card to run at all under Linux? I
> > tried to setup RedHat 6.0 using this card with a decent monitor (31-86
> > Khz hor), (50-120 Hz vert) and have been unable to get it to work well
> > at all.
> >
> > I've run xf86config too many times to count with various variations on
> > the TGUI9680 theme and monitor settings, including disabling or
> > re-ordering the video resolution order of usage. No matter what I do, it
> > simply will not come up in a mode that yields a visible screen. Only by
> > working my way through Ctl-Alt-+ do I get a screen that works. Even
> > then, I cannot get better than 800x600 with a 1024x768 scrollable area.
> > I REALLY don't want a scrollable area and disabling virtual screens
> > doesn't work. It would also be nice to get a viewable screen from
> > boot-up, but at this point I'm probably going to remove the card, toss
> > it, and put in an old ATI card I have around.
> >
> > Does any of this sound familiar to you?
> >
> > Harvey Bodine
> >
> > P.S. The system has dual-boot via lilo and the card runs flawlessly at
> > 1024x768 under Win95. I also have the exact same monitor model on a
> > custom Sparcstation running at 1280x1024, so I'm really at a loss.
> >
> > Josh wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm running an older box w/ a Trident TGUI 9680 2mb card.  Though my
> > > graphics aren't particularly FAST, this has been a very reliable card,
> i"m
> > > not sure of where to find another one or how to bump the memory up to
> 8mb.
> > > I know that Linux supports a ton of Trident chipsets, only I can't find
> any
> > > of these cards "on the shelf".  Anyone know which cards use the Trident
> > > chipsets?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > > http://www.help.com/
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: 3-button serial mouse
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:00:06 -0500

Richard Ashton wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:53:02 -0500, James Silverton
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Deletions>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
pristine.
> }
> }Has anyone used the newer optical mice that don't require a pad?
> 
> If you mean the Logitech TrackBall which has a giant ball, yes this works
> great in Suse 6.3. I want to by another does anyone know if the Logitech
> Trackman Marble Wheel is supported by linux, the wheel bit that is ?
 
No, a previous post gave the answer as to their manufacturer. I'm afraid
it's Microsoft and they are said to work on any surface. Certainly, the
one I tried at Micro Center worked well under DOS. I just wondered if a
special driver would be necessary under Linux or can you just plug them
in like the wheel mouses which function rather nicely as three button
mouses (plural intentional but I'd yield to a majority vote if there is
such a thing!).

Jim.
-- 
James V.  Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.

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