Linux-Hardware Digest #402, Volume #12            Sat, 4 Mar 00 14:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: ATI All-in-Wonder 128 questions (Curtis Newton @akamail.com>)
  Re: heating linux ("Robert W. Cunningham")
  Re: kernel settings for ESS1868? ("Robert W. Cunningham")
  Re: Help....MS IntelliEye Mouse (Jan Schaumann)
  X driver for onboard SiS card (Martin Fluck)
  Re: 96Mb = 64Mb RAM??? (Gert van der Knokke)
  Unbuffered RAM vs. Registered RAM ("Steve Snyder")
  Re: HP 720C and Redhat 6.1 (Markus Kossmann)
  Fibre Channel support ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  CHALLENGE: Port Linux to a Mountain Dew can! (advisor)
  Re: AMD and LINUX ("bowlernut")
  SN5100Tx ("Regis Papin")
  Re: Linux sucks ("Orest M. A. Zarowsky")
  Re: sound ESS1878, is it supported? (mike)
  Xircom CBEM56G (CC)
  Installing new video card? ("Scott")
  ESS ES56 modem supported ? ("S�bastien Bouchet")
  Re: CHALLENGE: Port Linux to a Mountain Dew can! ("Robert W. Cunningham")

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From: Curtis Newton <cnewton<remove-me>@akamail.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: ATI All-in-Wonder 128 questions
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 09:46:41 -0700
Reply-To: cnewton<remove-me>@akamail.com

On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 13:40:25 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I just got a ATI All-in-Wonder 128 (16meg) board to play with on my SuSE
>6.1 (6.4 as soon as it's out) box and I have a few questions:
>
>Does Xi have a server that works with this board?  I checked out the
>page at http://www.xig.com/Pages/3D-LGD-List.html .  It's listed, but
>no link??  Hopefully this means "soon"?  Would one of the Rage Fury
>drivers work or is it a different chip?
>
>How about GL support?  (Ha!  I know, dream on. ;)
>
>Anyone know of any tips for performance tweaking in XFree 3.3.6?  I had
>to use the "no_accel" option in XF86Config because otherwise the text in
>menus and xterms kept getting garbled.  Is this normal?
>
>Is the support in 3.9.? any better?  I might be tempted to tackle
>installing that if anyone else has good things to say about it, but it's
>a bit of trouble I'd rather not get into otherwise.  4.0 will be out
>soon enough.  :)
>
>

If that is a Rage128 chipset, the Xi driver works great.....an
alternative is 3.3.6 but there is a font problem.

So, goto the following URL for help:

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~distclai/rage128-howto.html
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From: "Robert W. Cunningham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: heating linux
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 16:59:54 GMT

Stefan Seyfried wrote:

> Robert W. Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Stefan Seyfried wrote:
> >>
> >> I did. With a power meter, my desktop PC draws around 55 Watts. It
> >> draws an input current of 0.9 Amps at 230 Volts.
> >>
> >>    230 Volts x 0.9 Amps = 207 Watts.
> >>
> >> It does make a difference, doesn�t it?
> >
> > How did you measure each of those values?  Is your equipment working correctly?  
>Are
>
> With two digital Multimeters, a cheap one and precision multimeter.
> They are working correctly, as far as i can see. I swapped them and
> the results are the same.
>
> > you using the equipment in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions?
>
> Yes.
>
> > There must be a problem with your measurements, your technique, or your equipment,
> > since there is no way you could have ANY realistic power-factor value that would
> > result in nearly a 4:1 power ratio!
>
> Well, a phase-shift of 75 degrees will do the trick. It�s just one of
> those standard PSUs they built into desktop PCs three years ago. I
> don�t think the taiwanese engineers were really concerned about
> compensating for blind current, they just designed it to be cheap.

Yeah, that could happen if an lightly loaded inductor (not transformer) or capacitor 
were
placed across the AC line, but it is not likely with any real-world load.  The design 
of
the supply would require EXTRA parts at extra cost to do this!

> > If possible, make your measurements with ALL the equipment connected at once, 
>thereby
>
> I have.
>
> > ensuring all measurements are taking place in the same environment.  Some equipment
> > can introduce its own errors.
>
> I know.
>
> > Also, ensure you have selected a scale that permits the reading to be taken in the
> > upper portion of the range, where you will have the greatest number of significant
> > digits.  A single-digit reading is worse than useless.
>
> Voltage: 2000VAC range, accuracy: +-4% +5 digits. worst case: 230-10-5=215V
> Current: 2AmpsAC range, accuracy: +-2% +1 digit. worst case:0.9-.018-.001=0.881A
> So this would give: 215*.881=192.058 VA
> The power meter is a processor-controlled, voltage- and current-
> integrating device, it�s specs say it�s accuracy is  �better than
> 10%�, so the worst case would be 55+5.5 = 60.5 Watts. Still a 3:1
> ratio.

Nice equipment!

> > As a first guess, I'd say your current reading was way off.  Second guess would be 
>the
>
> I measured the current with the better, �true RMS�-meter, because i
> checked the voltage with an oscilloscope and noticed it was a really
> good sine wave, no noticeable distortion. I don�t have a two channel
> oscilloscope at hand, so i cannot directly measure the phase shift,
> this would clear all up.
>
> > power meter, even though the value it gives is at the low end of reasonable for a
>
> No. My PC�s are all in the Pentium 100-200 range and are all in the
> 55 - 65 Watt range. This is without the monitor, the monitors easily
> add 100 Watts to the bill.
>
> > desktop PC.  Remember that all values must be RMS, which if your meter doesn't give
>
> They are.

I don't know what to say!  My cheap Radio Shack DMM gives me good readings that produce
sensible results for my system.

My last desperate guess would involve your 230V system:  Is it three phase (!)?  Does 
your
plug have a separate ground pin, and is there significant current on that pin 
(leakage)?

And, as a long shot, try getting an independent measurement of the current by using a
clamp-on ammeter.

Finally, if you have a PAVM (phase-angle volt meter), that might help clarify things...

Other than that, I'm stumped.


-BobC



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From: "Robert W. Cunningham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel settings for ESS1868?
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 17:02:41 GMT

Ivan Martinez wrote:

>         It seems that I have an ESS1868 sound card, but not its manuals. I
> can't make kernel detect it. Which are the right settings?. Thank you.

1. Copy settings from Windows.

2. Use isapnp to use those settings under Linux.

Assuming, of course, this is an ISA Plug-and-Play card.

-BobC



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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Help....MS IntelliEye Mouse
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 12:04:48 -0500

Fairway Fatty wrote:
> 
> I still cant seem to get my MS intellimouse (3 buton scroll wheel type)
> to work in linux...... what the heck do i need to do or where can i find
> an answer...?  Theres got to be somebody out there who knoews..!!

I believe this should be added to the FAQ by now - there are a bunch of
threads regarding this on every linux-NG by now.

Now to answer your question:

Go to http://jcatki.dhs.org/imwheel/ and read through the page.
Download and install imwheel.
Edit your XF86config so that the pointer section looks something like
this:
Section "Pointer"
    Protocol    "IMPS/2"
    Device      "/dev/mouse"
    ZAxisMapping 4 5
     Buttons    3
EndSection

start imwheel (read the imwheel manual)
And you should be ready to go...

HTH,

-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Fluck)
Subject: X driver for onboard SiS card
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 17:26:42 GMT

Hi, 
I'm having problems setting up the display on an instalation of Linux, the 
problem being that my vga, network, mouse etc "cards" are all onboard and 
Linux  is not recognising them, the drivers supplied with the motherboard are 
for windows only! Does anyone know how to get round this, or, have a Sis620 
driver for linux?
cheers.
martin

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From: Gert van der Knokke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 96Mb = 64Mb RAM???
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 18:27:47 +0100

Mark wrote:

>
> > And why is it that I have to do this??  Kernel docs say it's because the
> > BIOS doesn't report the size >64M.  Well, windoze found it, so how come
> > linux can't?
> >   -vg
>
> Depends on your kernel version.  At some point they added autodetection for
> >64Mb.
> I'm a 2.2.14 kernel with 128Mb RAM without having to add 'mem=128Mb' to my
> boot switches.
>

Me neither, I'm running a Gigabyte Dual PII-350 with 256 Mb:

[root@ttgk download]# uname -a
Linux ttgk.kgenet 2.2.5-15smp #1 SMP Mon Apr 19 22:43:28 EDT 1999 i686 unknown
(stock RedHat 6.0 kernel)

[root@ttgk download]# cat /proc/meminfo
        total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
Mem:  263778304 254529536  9248768 99790848 33411072 69513216
Swap: 139821056 10543104 129277952

And no additions in lilo.conf about memory either.

Gert


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From: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unbuffered RAM vs. Registered RAM
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 17:37:23 GMT

With all other factors the same, what is the difference between 
unbuffered and registered RAM?  If there is a performance difference, 
which is the faster of the 2 types?

Thank you.


***** Steve Snyder *****




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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP 720C and Redhat 6.1
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 18:22:10 +0100

Korneel Thijs wrote:
> 
> I have a Hp Deskjet 720C, and I would like to print under RH 6.1
> Where do I find a driver?
That's a FAQ. Try http://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=1322
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Markus Kossmann                                    
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fibre Channel support
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 17:40:51 GMT

Does Linux kernel 2.2.x support any fibre channel
controllers ?


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From: advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CHALLENGE: Port Linux to a Mountain Dew can!
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 10:40:02 -0700

A friend of mine and I would like to post a public challenge to test the
versatility of linux: we would like to see if someone can port linux to
a mountain dew can - any necessary and reasonable modifications to the
can (addition of transistors, etc.) are acceptable, as long as the end
product can be displayed as something recognizable as a mountain dew can
which runs linux. (consider the marketing potential, folks - the
ultimate extreme soft drink powered by the ultimate extreme OS?)

No prizes to be awarded, just the honor that comes with being the first
person to ever port an OS to a soft drink.

So, ladies and gentlemen, start your engines! Let the porting begin!


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From: "bowlernut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD and LINUX
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 11:47:18 -0600

i too have and amd 233 and yet have not been able to get linux to run even
tr'd the zipslack still now luck
Stephen Bodnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, LOIC B
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >  Everywhere  I see linux I can see Intel but never AMD and
> >I would like to know if it is possible to use linux without
> >problem with an AMD processor and if yes wich type of linux
> >could you recomand to me.
> >
> >  Thanks a lot.
>
> Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I had problems with
> an early K-2 233 (I think that's the model, it was one of the first
> 233's). There were some timing problems that caused random
> crashes, and we could NEVER do a complete kernel compile.
> This was back in the bad old days of kernel 2.0, and RedHat 5.1
>
> It was a packaged system put together by Polywell, I believe
> it has a Microstar motherboard. And yes, there was plenty of
> cooling.
>
> Later,
>  Stephen



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From: "Regis Papin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SN5100Tx
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 18:15:53 GMT

hi

i'm looking for driver for the network adaptater SN5100TX

bye



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From: "Orest M. A. Zarowsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux sucks
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 13:24:44 -0500

I have worked my way partially through the threads re the post. I am struck by a
couple of points:

1) An awful lot of people are taking Microsoft personally.  I use their dreck
because I have to and, by and large, it sucks.  But being an adult, I deal with
it and move on to the important stuff - getting what I need to do done.

2) Linux (and UNIX) doesn't suck.  It is a hell of a lot better than WIndows.
This doesn't mean that Linux doesn't have its own shortcomings.  However,
constant efforts are being made to improve/fix Linux, unlike in Windows.

3) What does suck is the assumption made by many Linux "experts" and advanced
users that the documentation that comes with Linux is superb and more than
adequate.  It is not.  Lots of stuff out there, but what kills it is the
assumption underlying ALL of the documentation that the person using it is
already familiar with the OS.  This may have been true in the "good old days",
but it ain't so anymore.

4) I have yet to find a reasonable set of documentation about Linux that makes
it relatively easy to migrate from the world of Microsoft to the world of
Linux.  I am reasonably knowledgeable about computers and I am having a hell of
a time trying to learn Linux.  Assuming that the Linux community is serious in
their desire to expand the use and role of Linux, documentation that dispenses
with the attitude that the user is already an expert needs to be developed.  I
don't have the time to take several months to figure out how to do basic file
management (as one example) on my own.  Ease of use and reasonable introductory
level documentation are necessary if Linux is to become anything more than a
niche market player.  Having something like this available would significantly
reduce the number of "Linux sucks" posts and improve the chances of Linux
reducing the size of market share controlled by Microsoft.

O. Zarowsky


David Chandler wrote:

> www.linuxnewbie.com
> This site is very very helpful.
>
> Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:881d89$qb6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi Jason,
> > I agree Linux is an O/S for those who wish to think and such, but to me
> the
> > biggest "knock" against Linux is the documentation provided with most
> > distributions. I know it is rather complete or intended to be so, but when
> > you are looking to find out how to troubleshoot your networking card or
>
> <invectiveotomy for brevity>


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Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 19:43:18 +0000
From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sound ESS1878, is it supported?

mike wrote:
> 
> The sound driver in 2.2.13 appears to support ESS chips as 100%
> soundblaster compatible. Unfortunately, ESS1878 is not mentioned in any
> of the documentation. Does anyone know if this is an aberation? Is it
> supprted at all? How?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Mike Sandford

I found it mentioned in the Hardware howto. My problems lie elsewhere:{

Mike S

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From: CC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Xircom CBEM56G
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 18:48:25 GMT

Hi.

I've installed winlinux 2000 in my Inspiron 3700 a few days ago.
Similarly, my card is correctly recognised but the modem was installed
on ttyS0 for some reasons. But i've check that the /dev/modem is
actually point to ttyS4?! I'm wondering do i have to assign my modem to
COM5 (which is set in my machine under win98)? If yes, how?

Actualy, i'm a newbie in Linux and this is the first time i've
installed Linux in my machine. I've read some howtos in order to find
some help but still don't have a clue of what's going on.

It would be greatly appreciated if any of the experts out there could
drop me some hints. Thanks.

Regards,

Cedric


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From: "Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing new video card?
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 13:59:24 -0500

I currently have RH 6.1 running on my computer which has integrated SIS5597
video.   I just bought a Creative Labs Riva TNT PCI video card.  I'm curious
as to how to make the transition.  Will RH automatically detect the video
card and use the correct driver, or do I need to do something?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Scott


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From: "S�bastien Bouchet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ESS ES56 modem supported ?
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:09:03 -0500

Hi,

I have an ESS ES2898-based PCI modem, and I'd like to make it work under
Linux.
If it's a winmodem (I don't even know), please let me know and I will give
up. Otherwise I'd be pleased to have some URLs explaining how to setup such
a internal modem.

Thanks a lot,

S�bastien

BTW, here's the lspci -v output  (kernel 2.2.14) :

00:0e.0 Communication controller: ESS Technology ES2898 Modem (rev 02)
 Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
 Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
 Region 0: I/O ports at d000
 Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 1
  Flags: PMEClk- AuxPwr- DSI- D1- D2+ PME+
  Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-





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From: "Robert W. Cunningham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CHALLENGE: Port Linux to a Mountain Dew can!
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 19:04:55 GMT

advisor wrote:

> A friend of mine and I would like to post a public challenge to test the
> versatility of linux: we would like to see if someone can port linux to
> a mountain dew can - any necessary and reasonable modifications to the
> can (addition of transistors, etc.) are acceptable, as long as the end
> product can be displayed as something recognizable as a mountain dew can
> which runs linux. (consider the marketing potential, folks - the
> ultimate extreme soft drink powered by the ultimate extreme OS?)
>
> No prizes to be awarded, just the honor that comes with being the first
> person to ever port an OS to a soft drink.
>
> So, ladies and gentlemen, start your engines! Let the porting begin!

Uh, does the can still have to be full of Mountain Dew?

I'm wondering how to get a computer in through the drinking hole.

Does power have to be self-contained?  A power cord would be ugly...

Can we build it into one of thouse sound-activated dancing cans instead?

Linux runs on a Palm, and a naked Palm circuit board might just fit inside
a soda can...  Just have a serial connector exposed for connecting a
console device...

Get one of those new flexible plastic LCDs to wrap around the outside, and
you could even have a display.  Just have it show the Mountain Dew can art
as a screen saver.


-BobC



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