Linux-Hardware Digest #446, Volume #12 Thu, 9 Mar 00 19:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? ("MegaShaft 4000")
Re: Some progress (was Re: unknown disk drive activity) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Advice needed on S3 trio 3d (4 Mb, AGP) (Larry Barlow)
Re: Re: Linux vs Windows docs (was: Re: Linux sucks) (Nickolaus Dekay)
Re: bttv questions? (Robie Basak)
scsi-ide emul and dma (John v/d Kamp)
Re: Modem/ppp config question (Jon Collis)
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Intel CC820 mobo(820 chipset) and UDMA problem (Wonil Roh)
AMD K6-2 or K6-3 (Lien-Fei Chu)
re:How to access system serial port ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: hard-drive recording in linux?? (Denis Barthel)
Trouble with scsi 53c400 need help! (Martin Freiberg)
Re: HP cdwriter (Filippo)
Re: Corel Linux and 3C905C Card HELP!! ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? ("Tim Cunnings")
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? ("Tim Cunnings")
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From: "MegaShaft 4000"
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 20:56:03 GMT
I agree. The fact is that you are an idiot.
"Ron Reaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:h_zx4.63$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> Drivel and snip
forgery ignored. The facts are the facts.
>
> Paul Tiseo wrote in message ...
> >In article <Czzx4.386$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >> via chipset
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Feb 15 2000
> >> 100 per page
> >>
> >> There's 83.
> >>
> >> Then do:
> >> intel chipset
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Feb 15 2000
> >> 100 per page
> >>
> >> There's 30.
> >
> > Ok, I'll give you the smaller number since all you did was use
> >narrower parameters. You ended up missing posts that didn't have
> >"chipset" in them or getting a *real posting history* dating back more
> >than just a month. Same difference. You missed the central point of my
> >post which I hope you answer, rather than dodge like you did John's
> >reply to your link request. Here they are in point form:
> >
> > - Please explain how the numbers imply anything
> > about their content?
> > - Please explain how many of the 83 posts with "via"
> > and "chipset" you read were pro-VIA and how many
> > were against? Do the same for 'intel chipset" posts.
> > Establish criteria for objective judgement. Compare
> > and contrast.
> >
> > John, never figured you'd be talked about this much, huh? :)
> >
> >____________________________________________________
> >Paul Tiseo, Intermediate Systems Programmer
> >Birdsall 3, Mayo Clinic Jacksonville
> >4500 San Pablo Rd, FL, 32224
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (904) 953-8254
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Some progress (was Re: unknown disk drive activity)
Date: 9 Mar 2000 03:56:04 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:>However, under Gnome, there is no autorun process running, yet the constant
:>disk activity is there. Perhaps there's a Gnome equivalent of autorun.
:>
:>I'll report back anything else I find.
: Could be. It seems that the drive's cache prevents the periodic scsi activity
: from doing any physical. The light blinks every two seconds or so but I don't
: hear anything then.
: The audible activity every ten seconds or so is probably something the drive is
: doing on it's own.
You know, I was just scanning the newsgroups because I was about to post
about this. My computer does the same thing but upon examining the ring
buffer (w/ dmesg) I get the message:
VFS: Disk change detected on device ide0(3,64)
ATAPI device hdb:
Error: Not ready -- (Sense key=0x02)
(reserved error code) -- (asc=0x3a, ascq=0x02)
The failed "Test Unit Ready" packet command was:
"00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 "
repeating over and over. It turns out that if I put a data CD in my CD-RW
drive even w/o mounting, the problem goes away. It is quite annoying. I
have noticed it in Gnome but have not investigaed much further. My CD-RW
is the primary slave w/ my windows hd as primary master and my linux hd as
secondary master and a regular cdrom on sec slave. I only notice this
phenomenon on my CD-RW drive and only after I start X (I've only tried
Gnome). I thought I had the drive/driver set up incorrectly (maybe I do)
so if anyone has any fixes, I'd appreciate it.
Mike Hayes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Larry Barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Advice needed on S3 trio 3d (4 Mb, AGP)
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 15:10:44 -0600
"Miguel Ari�o" wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I�ve got a perfectly operating (that is , under windows) video card, and I
> have some trouble configuring the x windows program.
>
> For starters, it doesn�t let me use any other configuration than 640x400 16
> color; it doesn�t detect any of the chips of my graphics board, and I have
> tried lots of things... with no results.
>
> Do you know how can I set the X Windows up so I don�t just see the crappy
> old "generic VGA" screen? Thanks in advance
> (NB: I�ve visited the xfree86 web page, Suse�s page... with no result)
One of my machines at work has a Trio 3D. There is a note in the XFree86
documentation about this card. Support is new for this card and does not
support all resolutions and the dot clocks are a little funny. XFree86
documentation has some lines to add to the config file. I have it working
640x480 256 colors and 800x600 16 bit color and 1024x768 24 bit color and
1152x864 16 bit color but 1024x768 16 bit color won't work. Support for this
card is a little flaky but it is possible to get it to work at several
different resolutions.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nickolaus Dekay)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Re: Linux vs Windows docs (was: Re: Linux sucks)
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 21:23:04 GMT
On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:06:25 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Jordan) wrote:
>Oh, and I still don't know what a gateway is. Or why it is important.
>Or where to figure out what address I should enter for the gateway.
A gateway is the node in the network chain that is further up than you, which
you send data to and it then tries to route.
for example, on my lan i have four boxes: a linux box, two win98 boxes, and a
win98 laptop. the linux box has two interfaces; eth0 to the lan and eth1 to the
internet. the linux box gives addresses & information via dhcpd on eth0. from
those settings the win98 boxes are told to use the linux box as their gateway.
when a win98 box on the lan sends a packet to the internet, it sends the packet
to the linux box. the linux box then looks at its ipchains rulesets and decides
what to do with the packet. if the packet is accepted, the linux box looks at
its routing tables and decides where to send it. the packet is destined for the
world, so it sends the packet out on eth1, to the linux box's gateway.
perhaps a better definition than my previous one is that a gateway is a node
connecting two networks...?...
hope this helps.
ndekay
================================================================================
Furious activity is no substitute for understanding.
-- H. H. Williams
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: bttv questions?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10 Mar 2000 05:38:44 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have an STB TV/fM tuner card. Whenever I run a program like xawtv it
>opens the audio connection so I can hear the television. But xawtv has
>no control over the audio. So mute doesn't work, and when I exit the
>program the television audio is still coming through. I know this sounds
My ~/.xawtv has:
[global]
mixer = line
which allows xawtv to control the sound. 'line' may have to be something
else for you, experiment with xmixer to figure it out.
>evil, but under windows I don't have this problem. What do I need to do
>to get the sound to quit once the app is closed? Also, whenever I
>switched to fullscreen in xawtv the screen goes wack like on need
>Vert-hold or something.
I had this problem; I have a Matrox G200 and use the framebuffer and fbtv
outside of X instead.
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From: John v/d Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: scsi-ide emul and dma
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 23:00:28 +0100
Hi!
I just bought an new sony crx120e rewritable drive, and normally it uses dma. I tried
the normal ide drivers (ali 15x3 chip, kernel 2.3.x, 2.2.12 patched) and the drive
works, but for burning you need the scsi emul, but when I try to mount the drive I get
this after a timeout:
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 0x28 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00
hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout func only: 12
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hdc: status error: status=0x40 { DriveReady }
ide-scsi: Strange, packet command initiated yet DRQ isn't asserted
hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout func only: 12
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hdc: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hdc: DMA disabled
ide-scsi: Strange, packet command initiated yet DRQ isn't asserted
hdc: ATAPI reset complete
hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout func only: 12
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x80 { Busy }
hdc: ATAPI reset complete
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x80 { Busy }
scsi0 channel 0 : resetting for second half of retries.
SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
so dma is disabled, until I remove scsi emul.
anyone got dma and scsi emul working? and what do I do wrong?
can I safely burn cd's without this feature?
Thanks,
John
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From: Jon Collis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Modem/ppp config question
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 22:04:00 GMT
Verify that your login/password are correct. Also, set the lcp-timeout-max
to 30 in your options file.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Todd Siegel wrote:
> I get the following message when I try to connect to my ISP. Can anyone
> help.
>
> This is a laptop with a PCMCIA modem.
>
> pppd[712]: Serial connection established.
> pppd[712]: Using interface ppp0
> pppd[712]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS3
> pppd[712]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
> pppd[712]: Connection terminated.
> pppd[712]: Connect time 0.6 minutes.
> pppd[712]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
> pppd[712]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
> pppd[712]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> pppd[712]: Exit.
>
> Thanks, Todd.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 22:00:27 GMT
On Thu, 09 Mar 2000 17:59:23 GMT, Ron Reaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Paul Tiseo wrote in message ...
>>In article <T8Qx4.1626$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>> All true but VIA, SIS and Ali do have busmastering EIDE driver problems
>>> which is the issue.
>>
>> So does Intel...
>
>
>At an order of magnitude lower level.
That's less reassuring if you happen to be 'lucky'.
--
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Resistance is not futile. / | \
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wonil Roh)
Subject: Re: Intel CC820 mobo(820 chipset) and UDMA problem
Date: 9 Mar 2000 14:10:41 -0800
Just a follow-up if anyone cares.
Now I'm able to run umda mode 2 by replacing the 80 pin cable
with the conventional 40 pin cable, thus forcing the mobo to run
lower mode than umda 4. It's just dumb for the kernel to run
the slowest (and possibly safest) mode when it can't handle
the fast hardware (ie. mobo and drive). why not just run the
second fastest mode ?
Anyway, I'll try Hedrick's kernel patch later on. It might work.
Wonil
In article <8a8o8a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Wonil Roh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hi,
>
>I've been trying to get my new intel 820 motherboard working
>with udma support. Since I have this kernel 2.2.14 compiled in
>with dma support, I thought UDMA would be automatically enabled with
>my IBM deskstar 20G (DJNA-352030). But when I do
>hdparm -i /dev/hda
>
>/dev/hda:
>
> Model=IBM-DJNA-352030, FwRev=J58OA30K, SerialNo=GQ0GQ099182
> Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs }
> RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=34
> BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=1966kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
> DblWordIO=no, maxPIO=2(fast), DMA=yes, maxDMA=2(fast)
> CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=-66060037, LBA=yes
> LBA CHS=1023/256/63 Remapping, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39876480
> tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 mword2
> IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4
> UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 mode2
>
>Clearly none of the udma modes are on now, and i got this slow speed
>with hdparm -t /dev/hda,
>
>/dev/hda:
> Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 15.37 seconds = 4.16 MB/sec
>
>This is way too slow and just matches PIO mode(4) rather than any of
>DMA modes.
>
>dmesg shows:
>
>PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086, DID=2411
>PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
>hda: IBM-DJNA-352030, ATA DISK drive
>hdc: WDC AC36400L, ATA DISK drive
>hdd: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 9100, ATAPI CDROM drive
>ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
>ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
>hda: IBM-DJNA-352030, 19470MB w/1966kB Cache, CHS=2482/255/63
>hdc: WDC AC36400L, 6149MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=13328/15/63, UDMA
>
>Even the old WD drives runs in a udma mode and gives me
>hdparm -t /dev/hdc
>/dev/hdc:
> Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 6.55 seconds = 9.77 MB/sec
>
>I don't know what's going on, and have been looking all over the
>place on the web/newgroups to find the solution, but in vain.
>oh, both my mobo and the ibm drive do have udma66 capability, and
>I would be just happy to see it working at udma mode 2.
>
>Could anyone out there help me out of this ??
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Wonil
>
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From: Lien-Fei Chu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AMD K6-2 or K6-3
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 17:41:50 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I need some advice.
I am considering upgrading my current K6-2 300 to K6-2 500 or K6-3 450.
I am not sure which one would give me a better performance...
One other thing.. How can I check if the build in cache (CPU and
motherboard) being used?
Thanks for any help in advance!
Alex.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: re:How to access system serial port
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 22:57:03 GMT
I have a Redhat 6.1 system and I need this system to access through
Serial port.Please let me know what is the procedure.
Thanks in advance.....
Dale khehra
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:14:17 -0800
From: Denis Barthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hard-drive recording in linux??
'59burst wrote:
>
> Can I just forget it? Anyone know if linux supports Midiman soundcards? Is
> there software for harddrive recording out there??
> tanx
yes, forget it. working with sounds is still a mess with linux, one of
the few reasons i still require this os, eh.., you know, had a number in
it ...
have a look at broadcast2000. it is the linux state-of-the-art.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Freiberg)
Subject: Trouble with scsi 53c400 need help!
Date: 09 Mar 00 21:32
Hi all,
Sorry of my bad english, it isn't my language.
I have big trouble with my scanner-card for an HP Scanjet IIc.
The scsi controller card is an HP 309, Rev A, C11752-66500
with an ncr 53c400 chip without an a. It isn't a 53c400a!
It is the Card with memory mapped mode. I hav this jumpered
on the address 0xd4000. Other adresses i have probed and giv me
in all times the same errors.
The kernel is 2.2.14.
Have anjone an troubleshooting for my problem?
insmod g_NCR5380 give me an Device or resource busy.
the same i become with parameter
insmod g_NCR5380 ncr_53c400=1 ncr_irq=255
# insmod g_NCR5380 ncr_53c400=1 ncr_irq=255 ncr_addr=0xd4000
With the address parameter I become an Segmentation fault
on all probed addresses (c0000,c4000,... D4000,D8000).
I have probed many kernel configurations with the generic driver
g_NCR5380 an do compiled new.
I have get all hardware oudside of my computer that i not needed
to boot. I have read all info unter /usr/doc/* /usr/src/* an
the same that i found with dejanws.
It is no free interrupt in my system to get another controller inside.
I need someone without interrupt or with interruptsharing to another card.
What can i do to run my scanner under linux with this damned
controller?
thanks
Martin
--
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( O O ) | ueber eine Wahrheit, aber sie richten
|\_/| | sich auf und gehen weiter, als sei
\w/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | nichts geschehen. (Winston Churchill)
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From: Filippo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP cdwriter
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 23:31:22 GMT
Greg Leblanc wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Filippo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm going to buy an HP 9210 scsi cdwriter. I'm attaching it to a
> 2940U2w
> > scsi controller Do you know of any problems under linux?
>
> There shouldn't be any problems. The 2940U2W is a good card, and I've
> had good luck with my HP drives.
> Greg
Thats it. I can burn at 8x any kind of Cds. great.
--
Littering is dumb.
-- Ronald Macdonald
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Corel Linux and 3C905C Card HELP!!
Date: 9 Mar 2000 23:31:09 GMT
In comp.os.linux.setup Hannova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <8a6p11$4m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> In comp.os.linux.setup Hannova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : In article <8a6cpv$psi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:> : "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> The C is a different card, but AFAIR, it is handled by recent revisions
:> of donald's driver, and the 3C supplied driver by all accounts works
:> fairly well if you're on UP ...
: It is, however it is not compiled for my kernel, and I have been unable
: so far to get it to do so. What is an UP?
Uniprocessor.
:> ?? You'd just load it into the kernel. It's a pci card, so there are
:> no parameters to give as regards irq's or io. You might want to force
:> the negotiation on the link, if it's not detected right, but I can't
:> think of anything else you might want to add. I.e., just load it.
: The uncompiled source? I kinda got the impression reading the .c file
You are joking surely! You displayed considerable intelligence, so why
pretend to be stupid now?
: that it was intended for use in a compiled state. Unfortunately, the
Of course it is. Please let's not pretend to be three-year olds.
: gcc comand included in the source comments spat back all sorts of
: compile errors. I'm trying to find out if I should be running it in a
Then your gcc is hosed, or you don't have the necessary headers
installed. I would bet on the last. Do you? You need at least the
kernel source headers to compile kernel source!
A simple
gcc -O2 -c -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE foo.c
should suffice for nearly all module compilations.
: certain directory, or something else that might be obvious to a
: seasoned user and not to a squeaky-new newbie.
It doesn't matter where you compile it. But if you were to show the
error messages THEN people would be able to help you.
:> impression that you are talking about some gui thing whose job is
:> simply to edit conf.modules? Is that it?
: If you don't know, don't worry about it. As the original poster stated,
: the compiled version was for a different kernel, and did me no good.
It should make no difference. Use insmod -f.
:> Well, good for you, and no, you didn't explain, and yes, if you have
:> the 3c905 driver, by all means alias eth0 to 3c905.
: I'm gonna stop using subject lines - No one reads 'em. *sigh*
I don't even see them. But yes, plenty of people do use them, but I
doubt if anyone has them on screen by the time they're half-way through
a post.
:> What's unhelpful about what? Care to explain what that references to
:> "modconf menus" is about? You seem to have snipped my explanation of
:> how to configure conf.modules.
: No, it's still there, you gave no explanation other than to say that
: the line needed to be added. However unless it's compiled, I can't
I also pointed out that you shouldn't do that on a debian-derived
system. Instead you have to munge aroud below /etc/modutils and
then run modules_update. As of 2.2 at least.
: alias eth0 to the driver, as I understand it.
You can alias it to anything, but it won't do you any good until its
compiled and loaded.
So, so you have the kernel source installed or not? You can't compile
a driver without the kernel headers.
: I'll take another guess that since you've never seen the modconf menu,
: it must be unique to Corel Linux.
Quite possibly. What does it do? (I was about to say "offer", but
then I realized that I wouldn't be interested in the interface
aspect ...).
Peter
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From: "Tim Cunnings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:23:09 +1030
Who says so? I am not denying it. I have no proof tha problems do or don't
exist, but from my experience, its not the case, and in fact, as I said, I
have experienced more problems with the BX chipset.
SO what should I believe, my own experience that I know to be true, or
should I believe the unsubtantiated words of another. I am sorry, but its
problems that I have just not seen (be it work or home) if problems do exist
then perhaps its more carbon based than silicon? I know all the professonals
I deal with have no problems.
Ron Reaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:jcQx4.1631$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Tim Cunnings wrote in message ...
> >
> >Ron Reaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:uFDx4.394$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>
> >> Neil Davis wrote in message <8a6qbt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >> >I'm sorry to see this thread deteriorate so quickly into name-calling,
> >> >because there are some legitimate chipset and driver questions I'd
love
> >to
> >> >see addressed. I've put together a number of VIA-based systems, but
> >> >recently I got fed up with them and have switched to the BX boards
> >instead.
> >> >One of the problems I've suffered with the VIA chipset is IRQ sharing.
> >>
> >>
> >> Right, I forgot that one.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >You know, its ironic. I have never had any problems at all with my IRQ
> >sharing on the MVP3 based board, yet there is a BX based system down at
> work
> >(our test system actually) thats a real cow. Not saying its bad, just
much
> >harder to get working, yet my home system has never once had problems.
> >
> >So whats the point here? I am not denying problems with one chipset,
rather
> >pointing out that, just because your history might lean one way, someone
> >elses could just as easily lean the other.
>
>
> No, that's an attempt at dilution. Subtracting all the factors you've
> brought up, VIA has much greater busmastering EIDE driver problems than
> Intel chipsets.
>
>
>
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From: "Tim Cunnings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:30:20 +1030
why, you are the one that produced the Deja information as some kind of
evidence. What was it, oh here it is, regarding a search for bus master
problems;
"
Anyone can go to www.deja.com and do a USENET power search on all: via
busmaster problem, Feb 20 2000, 100 per page. There are 75 returns.
Start reading.
Do a USENET power search on all: intel busmaster problem, Feb 20 2000, 100
per page. There are 34 returns. Considering that Intel outsells VIA
~2:1........
"
I Acknowledged the point you make that intel outsells VIA 2:1, but do you
deny, using your own evidence , that there is proof of problems with intel
bus mastering?, remember, 34 returns...
Tim
Ron Reaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:xERx4.1717$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Paul Tiseo wrote in message ...
> >In article <SEFx4.1070$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >> Nope. Don't change the subject. Read the whole thread. Do you stand
> >> behind his assetions that there are no VIA busmastering EIDE problems?
> >
> > VIA does. So does Intel, using your DejaNews measuring stick...
>
>
> Utter nonsense.
>
>
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