Linux-Hardware Digest #474, Volume #12 Tue, 14 Mar 00 04:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: How to run XF86Setup or XF86config ("jihefr")
I Need Mouse Help ! (Quinn)
Two net cards ("Valerrij Kovzan")
Re: CD Writer IDE ??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Kernel and IDE-SCSI support problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Need to use a PCMCIA hard disk as root fs ("Shawn T. Rutledge")
Re: Drivers for Canon BJC-2000 ("Jason Byrne")
Re: Linux sucks (John Jordan)
Re: Linux sucks (John Jordan)
Re: Memory question ("Mike Bales")
Serious harddisk problem (Bernhard Mogens Ege)
Re: x-window configuration problem w/RH 6.1 (Jonathan Shipley)
Re: Linux sucks (JEDIDIAH)
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From: "jihefr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: How to run XF86Setup or XF86config
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:39:24 GMT
Hi,
just enter one of the command Programmer told you and then follow the
instructions.
good luck !
cheers
jf
r miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> How do I run these and where?
>
> Thanks
>
> Programmer wrote:
>
> > Try running Xf86Setup or xf86config. That's how I got mine working.
> >
> > --
> > Get DSL for FREE! Sign up BEFORE April 30th 2000!
> > http://in.winfire.com/s/isapiEng.dll/wf.exe?cmd=rl&452,120017668&wf.exe
> > Get MORE free stuff at www.bigfoot.com/~MichaelQuinn
> >
> > "r miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I have installed it but i can not get X to start. It is pretty
useless.
> > > I have the the exact same problem. Is there a way to manually select
a
> > > generic video card during the install as a temp solution.
> > >
> > > My Hardware: Celeron 333a slot 1, Abit BX6 rev2.0, ATI RageFury 32mb,
> > > Viewsonic A70 monitor, Digital Research 40X CD-ROM, OEM LiveValue,
> > Quantum
> > > 6.4 EX Gb, 64mb PC-100 SDRAM generic, 3Com PCI FAX Modem #5610
> > >
> > > What can i do? Will using Mandrake Linux 7.0 solve this problem? I
am a
> > > newbie
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > I installed linux redhat 5.2 on a pc : amd k7 500, 128 Mo, ATI Fury
32
> > Mo,
> > > > smile 17"
> > > > but i can't use x-window (the program doesn't launch and i have a
black
> > > > screen)
> > > > i think it's a compatibility problem with my video card (i 'm not
sure).
> > > > how can i solve this problem ???!
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > > Before you buy.
> > >
>
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From: Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I Need Mouse Help !
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 01:54:03 -0500
Lunix Was Installed & Seemed To Run Fine Except No Mouse...Is Ther A Fix
For This ? Please E-Mail Me @ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanx
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From: "Valerrij Kovzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Two net cards
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:49:57 +0200
Hi,
I have two cards (NE2000 and DE305). DE305 is configured in jumperless mode
like (NE2000). So they need only one module ne. But I can't run two cards
simultaneously. Each card could work separatly. If there is in default
module list 'ne' module presented it could find NE2000 card but fail
autoprobing DE305 (as NE2000) actually it can work if I describe DE305 in
'modules.conf' file :
alias ne eth0
options ne io=0x320
First thing I'v tried is to make entries in modules.conf:
alias ne eth0
alias ne eth1
options eth0 io=0x300
options eth1 io=0x320
Second thing, sending parameters using lilo:
boot: linux ether=0,0x300,eth0 ether=0,0x320,eth1
What should I do, may be use different card (to use different modules)?
May be ne module support only one card?
thanx for any reply
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CD Writer IDE ???
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:58:10 -0800
In article <8ajo4b$3ah$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Die Fietzos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My problem : I enable the scsi-support , i can mount my
> CD writer(ide) as an scsi-writer. But i can`t mount an
> empty cd-r , an error message appears (too may mounted
> systems, cd is writeprotected....)
You are not supposed to mount a blank cd-r, you just put it in and run cdrecord.
> CD-toast show my Ricoh writer on scsi 8 times,
That is not right...
> the ide port shows hda,hdb and hdc(my writer).
> How can i burn ????
You need to add to your lilo.conf:
append="hdc=ide-scsi"
Also check out the Cd-Writing HOWTO, should answer most of your questions:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html
--
Jim Zubb
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kernel and IDE-SCSI support problems
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:03:26 -0800
In article <8ajn2p$f2t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andre-John Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have compiled my kernel (2.2.14), which came with Mandrake 7.0, for
> generic scsi support and it still does not use generic-scsi by default
> for my CD drives. I still have to add the line 'append="hdd=ide-scsi"'
> to my lilo.conf file. I did the following :
> make menuconfig
> make bzImage
> make install
> I have one CD-ROM drive and one CD-RW drive. I would like to use scsi
> emulation for both of them. On start-up they are recognised as ATAPI
> devices.
>
You have to remove IDE-ATAPI CDROM support from your kernel, it overrides the
SCSI emulation support.
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Jim Zubb
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From: "Shawn T. Rutledge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need to use a PCMCIA hard disk as root fs
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:43:24 GMT
I have an IBM ThinkPad 730T which has no internal hard drive. DOS boots
just fine from any of the three PCMCIA hard drives that I have tried -
an IBM 105 meg one that came with it, a 520 meg CallunaCard, and an
Integral Peripherals Viper 170E. So on all 3 drives I have installed
LoopLinux, a distro that boots from a DOS partition using loadlin. When
the kernel comes up, I get errors like this:
hdc: Calluna Technology CT521RM, ATA DISK drive
hdc: IRQ probe failed (0)
hdd: IRQ probe failed (0)
hdd: IRQ probe failed (0)
<snip>
Partition check:
hdc:hdc: lost interrupt
hdc: lost interrupt
hdc: lost interrupt
hdc: lost interrupt
hdc1
<then proceeds to mount the ramdisk as root>
similarly when doing fdisk:
# fdisk
/dev/hdc
hdc:hdc: lost interrupt
hdc: lost interrupt
hdc1
hdc: lost interrupt
hdc: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
ide1: reset: success
hdc: lost interrupt
hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
ide1: reset: success
hdc: lost interrupt
hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0
Unable to read /dev/hdc
#
kernel is 2.2.13, the "bare" kernel from the latest Slackware. I'm
using
LoopLinux from http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html.
I tried compiling newer kernels myself, and also tried using the
"old disk-only driver" instead of the newer EIDE driver. When I used
that
driver it didn't even recognize the drive.
Maybe I need ide_cs compiled into the kernel rather than as a module?
Is that even possible?
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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Drivers for Canon BJC-2000
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:06:13 -0800
I second that vote... and I have a Canon BJC-4200 :-)
Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> the bjc-600 drivers work wonderfully.
>
> www.users.uswest.net/~thaz
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Jordan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux sucks
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:18:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) dijo a todos por la internet:
>>I now have a Linux computer as well, and I finally managed to get at
>>least the NT computer to see and browse it. I haven't gotten the Linux
>>box to see the NT box, however. And I still don't know what a gateway
>>is or why it is important (which may be why it isn't all working yet).
>Another common term for the gateway is the 'default router'. In short,
>it is where packets not destined for the local network go, and is
>assumed to be a machine that is smart enough to know how to get them at
>least one hop closer to their destination.
>
>You -will- need to know this if you plan on hooking these systems to an
>internet (note the little i): gateways are what connect networks to each
>other to become a (little i again) internet.
>
>Of course your "samba is hard to set up" is misleading. Why are you
>making Linux do it the Windows-way? Why are you not complaining that
>PC-NFS is hard to set up on Windows?
Ummm, well, I might complain that PC-NFS is hard to set up if I knew
what PC-NFS stands for, and the meaning of the term.
>>Of course, you are right, the Resource Kit does not come with the OS,
>>so the user may not even be aware it exists. Ditto for the
>>KnowledgeBase. And I'll also grant that both the Resource Kits and the
>>KnowledgeBase assume that the user knows what a gateway is. But the
>>fact that Microsoft documentation is lacking is no excuse for Linux
>>documentation to be equally lacking. I thought the whole idea was that
>>Linux was supposed to be better than Windows. To me, that includes the
>>documentation, not just features, applications and stability.
>It is better. It comes with documentation. Read the Net howto. It's
>not very complex (especially if you can adapt to binary math) and what
>you learn will apply to any OS, not just Linux. If you want, go read
>the Resource Kit and learn what a gateway is. You will need to know it
>before you attach your network to another network.
I did try the net howto. And a bunch of other docs too. I didn't
understand any of them. I just discovered today that the first three
numbers of the IP addresses for my three computers have to be the
same, and the fourth number has to be unique for each device in my
network. None of the documentation said that. Until someone here told
me, I didn't know that that was part of my problem. Just another
example of people assuming too much knowledge.
>>I wasn't thinking of corporate users at all. I was thinking of John
>>and Jane Doe, who buy a computer at the local computer store to use at
>>home. Who will they turn to for help?
>The same people they turn to when they install a windows network to
>share their internet connection.... They'll have to learn what a gateway
>is then. A single computer and they won't need to know or care.
>
>Wander into your "Control Panels" on Windows and you will see Windows
>has a nice little box for setting the gateway.... it has the exact same
>importance on Linux as it does on Windows.
Wait! Are you telling me I don't need to set a gateway on my
three-computer home network if it is not connected to the Internet?
What if each computer has a dialup modem and is connected to an ISP
once in a while?
You know, there is another problem we idiots face. I really need a
primer on networking. But even if I had one, it would be hard to read.
My eyes would glaze over after the first page. I don't care. I just
want it to work. How it works bores me.
NOTICE: The e-mail address is deliberately incorrect.
Delete "xnospam" from the username.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Jordan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux sucks
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:23:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Orest M. A. Zarowsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dijo a todos por la
internet:
>3) A fundamental point was missed - Linux is becoming increasingly "popular" and
>publicized in the mainstream press (note: not the computer press). This has
>significant consequences for the Linux community. The most important consequence is
>that many individuals with a "Windows centric" perspective will be trying to install
>and use Linux. These are not going to be happy campers. Assuming that the Linux
>community is serious about increasing the size of the installed base significantly,
>the limitations of the Linux documentation will need to be addressed. It doesn't
>matter if the gurus have nothing but loathing for these people, the needs of
>migrants from Windows to Linux will have to be addressed. Failure to do so will
>guarantee that the majority of people who try to switch to Linux will end up
>returning to Windows and never trying anything different again. Microsoft wins, we
>all lose.
Well put. That's the point I keep trying to make. Every Windows user
who tries Linux, gets frustrated, and returns to Windows, means that
the Linux community loses more than just another user. We also lose
all the potential users who this person badmouths Linux to.
NOTICE: The e-mail address is deliberately incorrect.
Delete "xnospam" from the username.
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From: "Mike Bales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,aus.computers.linux,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: Memory question
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:32:06 GMT
Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm thinking of upgrading to 128M ram. Currently I just have generic
> PC100 64M, but now I'm wondering what more I can get if I spend a bit
> more. Would 133MHz ram be an option, even if my MB (P5A) won't quite
> make the bus speed? Could be more stable.
Doubtful your PCI and AGP and chipset could be 2x overclocked also. And the
memory timings on the faster DIMM would have to be ignored for the slower
one to work. But, you will have a stick for future systems that can
actually use it. So buy it.
> Someone recommended I get ECC ram, since I leave my Linux machine on for
> long periods it will increase the hardware stability in conjunction with
> the superior Linux stability over Win95. However in my MB manual I'm
> sure it says something about ECC ram only being supported at 66MHz,
> blowed if I could find that bit now though.
Page 19, no ECC on FSB speeds over 83Mhz.
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Subject: Serious harddisk problem
From: Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:34:32 GMT
My machine is acting wierd regarding the harddisk. It is (randomly?)
spun down and immediately spun up again (within 1 second). This causes
linux to disable DMA, 32bit transfers, well every optimisation on that
drive. dmesg says this:
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hda: DMA disabled
ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0x80, count=2
ide0: reset: success
hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0xd0, count=3
ide0: reset: success
I also hear some strange sounds when working on the disk. It sounds
like "klonk", sometimes repeated.
I am not sure, but can it be related to the OSS sound driver? How it
can spin down my HD I don't know.
Are there any tools to disable/enable hd-spindown/powersave?
System: Athlon 500, MSI 6167, 18Gb Seagate 7200, 2.2.14 kernel, 128Mb
RAM.
regards,
Bernhard Ege
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From: Jonathan Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: x-window configuration problem w/RH 6.1
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:27:03 -0600
r miller wrote:
> Linux Newbie
>
> Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> I cannot configure X during install. I have installed it but i can not get X to
> start. It is pretty useless. I have the the exact same problem. Is there a way
> to manually select a generic video card during the install as a temp solution.
>
> > My Hardware: Celeron 333a slot 1, Abit BX6 rev2.0, ATI RageFury 32mb,
> > Viewsonic A70 monitor, Digital Research 40X CD-ROM, OEM LiveValue, Quantum
> > 6.4 EX Gb, 64mb PC-100 SDRAM generic, 3Com PCI FAX Modem #5610
> >
> > What can i do? Will using Mandrake Linux 7.0 or Caldera solve this problem?
> > I am a newbie and this is my first time. I am sure there is something to
> > download, but i need full funtionality.
> >
>
> Thanks
Since you admit to being a newbie, I would bet you just did the graphical install.
Instead, when the CD/Floppy boots type in TEXT then hit enter. Doing the text based
install will give you a few more options when it comes to the X configuration and
picking a Generic VGA card is there. (This is Red Hat 6.1) Now, Mandrake 7.0 will
pick up the rage 128 chipset as will Caldera 2.3 or 2.4 will too... COL2.4 has a
very nice menu for installing, it can do a "cautious" mode install. As well as a
few others like unattended, and text mode too. :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux sucks
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:40:07 GMT
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:23:46 GMT, John Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Orest M. A. Zarowsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dijo a todos por la
>internet:
>
>>3) A fundamental point was missed - Linux is becoming increasingly "popular" and
>>publicized in the mainstream press (note: not the computer press). This has
>>significant consequences for the Linux community. The most important consequence is
>>that many individuals with a "Windows centric" perspective will be trying to install
>>and use Linux. These are not going to be happy campers. Assuming that the Linux
>>community is serious about increasing the size of the installed base significantly,
>>the limitations of the Linux documentation will need to be addressed. It doesn't
>>matter if the gurus have nothing but loathing for these people, the needs of
>>migrants from Windows to Linux will have to be addressed. Failure to do so will
>>guarantee that the majority of people who try to switch to Linux will end up
>>returning to Windows and never trying anything different again. Microsoft wins, we
>>all lose.
>
>Well put. That's the point I keep trying to make. Every Windows user
>who tries Linux, gets frustrated, and returns to Windows, means that
>the Linux community loses more than just another user. We also lose
>all the potential users who this person badmouths Linux to.
OTOH: some Windows users are bound and deterimined to
frustrate themselves and no amount of helping them is
necessarily going to be effective.
[deletia]
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