Linux-Hardware Digest #608, Volume #12 Tue, 4 Apr 00 12:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Dual celeron system? (Mark Astley)
Re: Gateway machines w/Promise Ultra66 and nvidia tnt2 - best distribution? (Klamer
Schutte)
Re: Soundblaster Live! Value card not supported ("Gene Heskett")
Re: Need a clean hard disk ("Jake")
Using an IDE-magnetic tape with linux (Lestat)
Re: Dual celeron system? ("Me Here")
Re: Dual celeron system? (Rod Roark)
Printing in linux RH6.1 ("Russell")
isdn pripojenie na internet cez linux ("Daniel ZACHAR")
Re: ATA66 and Linux (Michael Kelly)
Re: Telnet problem ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: BP6: Linux hangs on udma66 HD access (Petri Lehtonen)
Re: Hardware config. (Martin Zabadal)
Re: Dual celeron system? (Bryan)
Re: Dual celeron system? (Bryan)
Multiple CPU (chris)
Re: quantum 13GB HDD and Suse 6.3 (John Gluck)
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From: Mark Astley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual celeron system?
Date: 04 Apr 2000 09:11:04 -0400
Just FYI...the bp6 has a few stability "quirks". If you're planning
on long uptime you might want to consider something else. There's a
mailing list that describes the various trials and tribulations. You
can subscribe with "subscribe linux-abit" in the body of a message
sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a bp6 but I don't keep it up more than a day or so at a time so
it hasn't been a problem. My two Celeries are 366's overclocked to
550. I got the whole kit from http://www.puicorp.com. You might
check out www.bp6.com for more info.
cheers,
mark
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2000 11:12 AM in article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erik Max Francis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The latest Celeron speeds available are 500 and 533 MHz. Does
> > anyone know if these simply will not work with the BP6, or is it just the
> > case that the documentation writers for it listed the highest speed
> > Celeron available at the time?
>
> I have two friends using the BP6, one with two 466 Celerons, and the other
> with two 600 celerons, but this is overclocking : this relies on luck.
>
> --
> BBP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Klamer Schutte)
Subject: Re: Gateway machines w/Promise Ultra66 and nvidia tnt2 - best distribution?
Date: 4 Apr 2000 13:25:21 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Kelly wrote:
>
>Hi. I have a Gateway Pentium III with Promise Ultra66 controller and
>nvidia tnt2 video card. I got a boot image from www.promise.com
having a similar system:
- I timed the difference between udma66 and udma33, on a RH 6.1 system.
You get udma33 by using the on-board IDE controller, and
/sbin/hdparm -d 1.
There was no speed difference between udma33 and udma66; hdparm -tT
reported about 21 Mb/s disk speed. (and yes: without dma much less...)
- For this speed with udma66 you need the kernel patch, you can get this
at hedrick's page (see below.) Using the ideX=yyy,yyy hack does
give you a non-udma performance (you don't want that.) So, using
the on-board controller (as opposed to the promise UDMA66 controller)
might help you if you don't want to recompile your kernel.
- Using the tnt2 card was easy -- RH 6.1 setup, and tweaking with
XF86Config (xf86config ?)
Klamer
Ultra DMA HOWTO:
http://www.moisty.org/linux/Ultra-DMA.html
Kernel patches:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick
--
Klamer Schutte, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electro-Optical Systems, TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Tel: +31-70-3740469 -- Fax: +31-70-3740654 -- Mobile: +31-6-51316671
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Date: 4 Apr 2000 9:14:9 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Soundblaster Live! Value card not supported
Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Roaster ;
>>
>> Cheers, Gene
>> --
>> Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 400mhz
>> Ch. Eng. @ WDTV-5 |This Space for rent
>> RC5-Moo! 350kkeys/sec, Seti@home 16 hrs a block
>> email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
>> This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted
>> material, is
>> � 2000 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
>> --
>>
>>
> What kind of a signature is that guff?
> No offence, but whats the point? oh, right interesting hearing how
> may RC5
> / Seti blocks you can rattle off - and really? Still using an
> Amiga???
> Sorry, but of all the sigs i've seen recently, with geek codes etc,
> this still rates as pretty sorry.
> Chris.
The main point is that CNet is attempting to apply their blanket
copyright to anything they _only_ relay. If they didn't write it, and I
did, I'll be damned if they take credit for what I write, even if what I
write has no value to anyone other than as something for someone to take
exception to as you appear to have.
And yes, this is *still* an amiga, a well expanded one to be sure. Why
do I use it yet? If you had one, and were running your email and news
activities thru a program called THOR, you would understand fully
because linux does not yet have *anything* to compete with it. News and
email are handled identically. All I have to do is read it and reply as
I choose, all in offline mode. EzCron and THOR do all the routine stuff
whether I'm sitting here or not.
I also have a suite of programs to support, a cron (EzCron) that beats
the *nix style the linux box uses hands down AFAIC, and an X10 hardware
based home automation program (EzHome) that is what heyu *could* grow up
to be. Sales were surprisingly good at the WOA show in St. Louis this
past weekend. At those things the Amiga does well, it does *very* well.
Amiga, for those who understand, no explanation is nessessary, for those
who don't, no explanation will suffice.
Those Rc5 keys are combined from both machines. If I shut down
setiathome, then they goto about 685 kkeys/sec for the linux box, plus
the 22 kkeys this one does for 700+kkeys...
You are of course, entitled to hold whatever opinion you'd like. Its
called freedom of speech here in the states, and a lot of men have died
to preserve that right over the last 224 years. I've now watched 65 of
them go by myself, and thats my opinion. Somehow I think that you
have not watched the calendar be /replaced/ quite that many times.
Cheers, Gene
--
Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 400mhz
Ch. Eng. @ WDTV-5 |This Space for rent
RC5-Moo! 350kkeys/sec, Seti@home 16 hrs a block
email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material, is
� 2000 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
--
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From: "Jake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Need a clean hard disk
Date: 04 Apr 2000 09:45:31 EDT
Lew,
Exactly what do you mean by a squeaky clean hard drive? Usually, fdisk /mbr
and fdisk to define partitions is sufficient. A low level format or
zero-fill is usually not necessary. By redefining partitions and
reformatting them, the clusters (allocation units) are unallocated, and the
FATs (or MFT) is recreated. What more do you really want?
Jake
"Lew Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Long story:
> I thought I'd turn a W98 machine into nt, aborted that & decided on
> Linux, & now, with all the wrong decisions vis-a-vis bootable partitions,
> mbr's and what not, I can't use this disk at all.
> Short story:
> Need to make hd squeaky, clean so as to start over.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> - Lew S
>
>
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Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:20:27 +0200
From: Lestat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,comp.unix.admin,comp.arch.storage,comp.misc
Subject: Using an IDE-magnetic tape with linux
Hello everybody!
I'm trying to use an ATAPI/IDE magnetic tape ( 8 GB, Conner ) with my
Red Hat 5.1 system. On the RedHat site I was told that this hardware is
unsopported but compatible which means that there is no official help to
use it.
Is there anybody out there who can help me using my new equipment?
Anything would be a great help,
thanx,
Lestat
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From: "Me Here" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dual celeron system?
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:30:28 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erik Max Francis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My dual Pentium Pro 200 MHz system is finally reaching the end of its
> life, and it's time for me to upgrade. I'm not particularly interested
> in forking out the dough for a dual Pentium III system (not to mention
> the fact that availability is a joke lately), but a dual Celeron system
> sounds good.
>
> I looked through some online catalogues of local shops, and the only
> dual Celeron motherboard I could find was the ABIT BP6. From the user
> guide (freely downloadable), it is listed as only working with speeds up
> to 433 MHz.
>
> The latest Celeron speeds available are 500 and 533 MHz. Does anyone
> know if these simply will not work with the BP6, or is it just the case
> that the documentation writers for it listed the highest speed Celeron
> available at the time?
>
> Any other suggestions for someone interested in upgrading to a dual
> Celeron system, given that he's been running a dual Pentium Pro for
> several years? Thanks.
>
I haven't used abit mobos, but you wanted any other suggestions. Well, I
like the ASUS P2B-D(S). The biggest drawback is only having 4 pci slots.
It's a slot 1 mobo, and to run dual celerons (which is not possible
according to Intel) in a slot 1 config, you either need to modify slot 1
celerons(not too difficult, but not for the faint of heart) or use ppga
celerons which are much easier to find, and slocket adapters
(some need to be modified, and some will run dual celerons right out of the box)
Some mobo's will run dual ppga celerons (like the abit) without any mods,
but I'll stick with my asus.
If you want more info on dual celerons, this is a good site:
http://kikumaru.w-w.ne.jp/pc/celeron/index_e.html
HTH...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Roark)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Dual celeron system?
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:38:22 GMT
The BP6 shows multipliers up to 8x (533 Mhz on a 66 Mhz bus), though
I don't think it matters since the Celerons are multiplier locked.
One cool thing about this board is its overclocking support, and many
folks are running 366's at 550 Mhz, give or take some. But you can't
hardly find 366's any more, and that's kinda pushing the limit anyway.
What I generally suggest to my customers is to get 466's and run them
at 525.
For future upgrading options, it appears PowerLeap is going to release
a FC-PGA (Coppermine) to PPGA converter.
-- Rod
======================================================================
Sunset Systems Preconfigured Linux Computers
http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ and Custom Software
======================================================================
On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 02:12:26 -0700, Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My dual Pentium Pro 200 MHz system is finally reaching the end of its
>life, and it's time for me to upgrade. I'm not particularly interested
>in forking out the dough for a dual Pentium III system (not to mention
>the fact that availability is a joke lately), but a dual Celeron system
>sounds good.
>
>I looked through some online catalogues of local shops, and the only
>dual Celeron motherboard I could find was the ABIT BP6. From the user
>guide (freely downloadable), it is listed as only working with speeds up
>to 433 MHz.
>
>The latest Celeron speeds available are 500 and 533 MHz. Does anyone
>know if these simply will not work with the BP6, or is it just the case
>that the documentation writers for it listed the highest speed Celeron
>available at the time?
>
>Any other suggestions for someone interested in upgrading to a dual
>Celeron system, given that he's been running a dual Pentium Pro for
>several years? Thanks.
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From: "Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printing in linux RH6.1
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:46:02 +1000
where could i find some printer drivers for linux. what i'm looking for is,
Epson LQ - 1070+, and Lexmark 1100, or is there another way to print without
using drivers, just simple text will do, i don't mind getting instruction to
configure any files needed to get linux to print. I've tryed printtool and
it wont detect anything located on my parallel port.
what can i do to get linux to print
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From: "Daniel ZACHAR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: isdn pripojenie na internet cez linux
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:11:08 +0200
Pouziva niekto prosim pripojenie linuxu do internetu cez isdn ?
Ake zariadenia su podporovane s dostupnych na slovenskom trhu ?
Dakujem. D.Zachard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: ATA66 and Linux
Date: 4 Apr 2000 15:18:22 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Bobby Hitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is kernel version "2.3.4" a misprint? I'm looking at the 2.3.x kernels now,
> and so far, I see support for the Promise controllers, but don't see support
> for software RAID-1/4/5, which I need.
>
> Bobby
Nope, it's 2.3.4. I'm booting it as a secondary choice in Lilo. So
far the only thing I've noticed is I didn't get sound unless
I compiled es1371 ensonique in the kernel instead of as a module.
Disk response is definitely snappier. I don't think I even enabled
the write-ahead caching. One thing to note, you have to do the
make config to select the PDC* support or you won't see the Ultra66.
Also according to a note on the patch page you have to put the param
idex=ata66 in addition to the ide2=0xyyyy,0xyyyy to let it know you
have the udma cable from the controller to the drive(where the 'x'
is your ide channel, in my case ide2.)
I'm not sure how far the raid dev. has gone as I just have the
single drive using ata66, not raid.
--
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have *me* as a member!"
-- Groucho Marx
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet problem
Date: 4 Apr 2000 15:20:42 GMT
CBA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Everytime i want to acces my linux computer with telnet i get:
: "telnetd: All network ports are in use."
: Any1 can help me on this one ?
Change the permissions on /dev/ptmx.
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 5, 2 Apr 4 17:20 /dev/ptmx
peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Petri Lehtonen)
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit
Subject: Re: BP6: Linux hangs on udma66 HD access
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:39:21 GMT
On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 00:47:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Jehsom) wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have a 40gb udma66 Maxtor hard drive that I am using as a secondary hard
>drive with my BP6 motherboard. It works fine when I connect it to the PIIX
>(udma33) controller, but when I connect it to the HPT366 (udma66)
>controller, it completely hangs my entire linux system.
As far as I understand this is a known problem with HPT366 and Maxtor
drives and Hedrick is trying to fix the problem.
I have exactly the same problem as you and for now I have connected
the drive to PIIX controller.
Petri
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From: Martin Zabadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hardware config.
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:32:06 +0200
Mark Thompson wrote:
> I'm buying a new machine soon, so here are the specs, does anyone know if
> Linux likes them?
>
> Panasonic Panasync/Pro P70
> Abit BP6 Dual Celeron Motherboard
> 2 x Intel Celeron 500A Processors
> CNet 10/100 NIC
> Maxi Tower Case
> 128 MB SDRAM
> 20GB Seagate Barracuda
> Keyboard
> Logitech Mouseman Wheel
> Sound Blaster Live OEM
> Hewlett Packard 8250i (4x4x24x)
> 8x CD-Rom
> 180watt Speakers
> 100MB zip drive (External)
> Riva TNT2 M64 32MB AGP Graphics Adaptor
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Marc Thompson
>
> Website: http://i.need.proz.ac.nz/~voy1d/
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ: 42617502
I am running Suse 6.3
If you are interested in Suse, try Suse hardware database:
http://cdb.suse.de/cgi-bin/scdb?HTML=ENGLISH/cdb_listtemplates/menu.htm&LANG=ENGLISH
Martin
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From: Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual celeron system?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:45:41 GMT
I just bought 2 p2-450 chips for about $150 ea.
back when those same chips were $600 and the celeron 300a was $100, a
pair of 300a chips o/c and modified for SMP was a real bargain.
however today, I'd just opt to go with 2 450 chips (you can still find
them on pricewatch). less hassles, same EXACT performance and no
kludges.
In comp.os.linux.hardware Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: My dual Pentium Pro 200 MHz system is finally reaching the end of its
: life, and it's time for me to upgrade. I'm not particularly interested
: in forking out the dough for a dual Pentium III system (not to mention
: the fact that availability is a joke lately), but a dual Celeron system
: sounds good.
: I looked through some online catalogues of local shops, and the only
: dual Celeron motherboard I could find was the ABIT BP6. From the user
: guide (freely downloadable), it is listed as only working with speeds up
: to 433 MHz.
: The latest Celeron speeds available are 500 and 533 MHz. Does anyone
: know if these simply will not work with the BP6, or is it just the case
: that the documentation writers for it listed the highest speed Celeron
: available at the time?
: Any other suggestions for someone interested in upgrading to a dual
: Celeron system, given that he's been running a dual Pentium Pro for
: several years? Thanks.
: --
: Erik Max Francis | email [EMAIL PROTECTED] | icq 16063900
: Alcyone Systems | web http://www.alcyone.com/max/ | q3a Product
: San Jose, CA | languages en, eo | icbm 37 20 07 N 121 53 38 W
: USA | 968.994 Ms p.L. | 272 days left | &tSftDotIotE
--
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(c) 2000. Publishing and/or relaying of this material on all forums other than
USENET implies agreeing to a consultancy fee of US$150 per posting. You must
obtain a written permit before you publish. Violators are subject to civil
prosecution for Copyright Infringement as applicable. Publication by C|NET
and Microsoft Networks expressly prohibited.
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From: Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual celeron system?
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:46:39 GMT
the bp6 is no more or less reliable (ignoring ide - going only scsi)
than other bx boards. I own the tyan 100 and the asus p2b-d (for
sale, btw) and all 3 systems have similar uptimes (many months).
avoid ide. esp. with smp!
Mark Astley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Just FYI...the bp6 has a few stability "quirks". If you're planning
: on long uptime you might want to consider something else. There's a
: mailing list that describes the various trials and tribulations. You
: can subscribe with "subscribe linux-abit" in the body of a message
: sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: I have a bp6 but I don't keep it up more than a day or so at a time so
: it hasn't been a problem. My two Celeries are 366's overclocked to
: 550. I got the whole kit from http://www.puicorp.com. You might
: check out www.bp6.com for more info.
: cheers,
: mark
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: > On Tuesday, April 4, 2000 11:12 AM in article
: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erik Max Francis
: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >
: > > The latest Celeron speeds available are 500 and 533 MHz. Does
: > > anyone know if these simply will not work with the BP6, or is it just the
: > > case that the documentation writers for it listed the highest speed
: > > Celeron available at the time?
: >
: > I have two friends using the BP6, one with two 466 Celerons, and the other
: > with two 600 celerons, but this is overclocking : this relies on luck.
: >
: > --
: > BBP
--
Bryan, http://Grateful.Net (ANTISPAM: email is my name at my web's domain)
(c) 2000. Publishing and/or relaying of this material on all forums other than
USENET implies agreeing to a consultancy fee of US$150 per posting. You must
obtain a written permit before you publish. Violators are subject to civil
prosecution for Copyright Infringement as applicable. Publication by C|NET
and Microsoft Networks expressly prohibited.
------------------------------
From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Multiple CPU
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 00:05:24 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
Does Redhat 6.1 support multiple cpu? What's the maximum no. of CPU
supported? How's the stability of such configuration? Thanks!
Chris
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From: John Gluck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: quantum 13GB HDD and Suse 6.3
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 11:54:24 -0400
J Mars wrote:
>
> I have a 13GB Quantum drive, which I successfully installed with diskgo,
> since my bios does not recognise the capacity. However, when I wanted to
> install Ss\use 6.3 I got a drive failure message. Please help.
> [HDD's western digital 4.3GB, quantum 13GB, pentium 133, RAM 48MB]
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
1st - If possible go to the motherboard manufacturer's web site and see
if you can get a new flash bios.
2nd - In your bios setup if you can set LBA mode or other mode for drive
access try playing with the settings
.
3rd - if you were trying yast2 for instalaation (CD 1) try yast (cd 2)
for setup. Make a few partitions as follows: the 1st partition of about
20Meg for /boot, 2nd partition for swap (say 100meg or so), 3rd
partition for / (root). You can setup more partitions depending on what
you want to install. The book has some guidelines.
--
John Gluck (Passport Kernel Design Group)
(613) 765-8392 ESN 395-8392
Unless otherwise stated, any opinions expressed here are strictly my own
and do not reflect any official position of Nortel Networks.
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