Linux-Hardware Digest #622, Volume #12 Wed, 5 Apr 00 22:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Amptron Motherboard compatibility? ("Thomas E. Haynes")
Re: Linux util to read CPU temp / fan speed via WinBond chip? ("Me Here")
Linux Mailing Lists Archives ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: COM1 or COM2 for the ext. modem; whats optimal? (Keith R. Williams)
Re: Abit BP6 (Hal Burgiss)
Re: WINMODEM - Yes OR No ???
Installing a Network Printer (Ahmed Abukmail)
Re: Problems with new memory module ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WINMODEM - Yes OR No ??? (Bit Twister)
Re: unholy floppy problems! (Pierre Asselin)
Re: WINMODEM - Yes OR No ??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
find out the dma? (stupid soundcard question) (Kerne Fahey)
Avoid 133MHz KINGMAX SDRAM ("nick hanno")
Re: read CD-RW (Dances With Crows)
Serial Port ("Koon")
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From: "Thomas E. Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Amptron Motherboard compatibility?
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 00:24:17 GMT
"Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
> I'm going to build a Linux box and I was wondering if anyone has had
> any luck with an "all inclusive" Socket 7 motherboard. The one I'm
> looking at has AGP Video (8 meg shared) and an ESS sound chip.
> The brand is Amptron and the model is 0598.
> http://www.amptron.com
>
> According to the manufacturer, it is compatible.
> I bought a copy of SuSE 6.3 to use.
I have SuSE 6.3 installed on a machine with a PcChips 598 motherboard that
has the SiS 530 video. I think it will let you use Yast 2 to install it
(boot from the first CD). If it doesn't you may have to use Yast 1 and go to
"change or create configuration" to install the server.
It works quite well on my machine.
Regards... Tom Haynes
Murfreesboro, TN
>
> Any thoughts or comments are greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
>
> Here is some information from their web site:
> ============================
>
> Linux SiS620/530 VGA Drivers
>
> Installation, Usage, and Release Document
> All brand or product names mentioned are trademarks or
> registered trademarks of their respective holders.
>
> Introduction
>
> This document includes SiS620/530 VGA Driver Installation and
> Configuration for Linux system. So far, this Linux driver supports
> Redhat 6.0, Openlinux 2.0, and Slackware 3.6. That means this Linux
> driver has been or will be tested based on these three Linux systems.
>
> Table of Contents
>
> This document contains the following sections:
>
> 1. SiS620/530 VGA Drivers Contents
> 2. System Requirements
> 3. Example of SiS620/530 Linux VGA Driver Setup and System
> Configuration
>
> 1. SiS620/530 VGA Linux Drivers Contents
>
> SiS620/530 VGA Linux Drivers Package includes one file of SiS620/530
> Linux driver binary, one example file of XF86configure and this
> readme.txt. (For Rev. 1.00 and newer, date: 07/19/99)
>
> 2. System Requirements
>
> This section describes system requirements for the SiS620/530 VGA
> Driver installation and usage.
>
> 1. The hardware system must contain a SiS620/530 chipset.
> 2. You must have XFree86 3.3.3.1 dated after January 7, 1999.
>
> 3. Example of SiS620/530 Linux VGA Driver Setup and System
> Configuration
>
> 1. SiS620/530 Linux VGA Driver Setup/Installation
>
> a. Copy XF86_SVGA.gz to Linux HDD
> b. Gunzip XF86_SVGA.gz
> c. Copy XF86_SVGA to /usr/X11R6/bin
> d. Run xf86config (See System Configuration Section)
> e. Vi XF86Config (under the directory /etc/X11)
> f. Add following lines in "Device" section in XF86Config
> Option "hw_cursor"
> Option "noaccel"
> Option "no_bitblt"
> Option "linear"
> g. Run startx
>
> 2. System Configuration--The recommended setting parameter as you run
> xf86config (Only for reference, these settings are system specific or
> Linux dependent)
>
> a. First specify a mouse protocol type. Choose one from the
> following list:
> �K
> 4) PS/2 Mouse
> Enter a protocol number: 4
>
> b. If your mouse has only two buttons, it is recommended that you
> enable Emulate3Buttons.
> Do you want to enable Emulate3Buttons? Y
>
> Now give the full device name that the mouse is connected to,
> for example /dev/tty00.
> Just pressing enter will use the default, /dev/mouse.
> Mouse device: /dev/mouse
>
> c. Beginning with Xfree86 3.1.2D, you can use the new X11R6.1
> XKEYBOARD extension to manage
> the keyboard layout. �K
>
> Please answer the following question with either 'y' or 'n'.
> Do you want to use XKB? Y
> �K
> Press enter to continue, or Ctrl-c to abort. Enter
>
> d. List of preconfigured keymaps:
> 1. Standard 101-key, US encoding
> �K
> Enter a number to choose the keymap. 1
> �K
> Press enter to continue, or Ctrl-c to abort. Enter
>
> e. �K hsync in kHz; monitor type with characteristic modes
> �K
> 10 31.5-82.0; Monitor that can do 1280x1024 @ 76Hz
> Enter your choice (1-11): 10
>
> f. You must indicate the vertical sync range of your monitor.
> �K
> 4. 40-150
> Enter your choice: 4
> �K
> Enter an identifier for your monitor definition: enter
> Enter the vender name of your monitor: enter
> Enter the model name of your monitor: enter
> �K
> Do you want to look at the card database? N
>
> g. The following servers are available:
> �K
> 3. The XF86_SVGA server.
> Which one of these screen types do you intend to run?
> By default (1-4)? 3
> Please answer the following question with either 'y'
> or 'n'.
> Do you want me to set the symbolic link? Y
> Do you want to set it in /var/X11R6/bin? Y
> �K
> h. How much video memory do you have on your video card?
> �K
> 6 Other
> Enter your choice: 6
> Amount of video memory in Kbytes: 8192
>
> The strings are free form, spaces are allowed.
> Enter an identifier for your video card definition:
> enter
> Enter the vendor name of your video card: enter
> Enter the model (board) name of your video card: enter
> �K
> i. Enter a number to choose the corresponding RAMDAC. Press enters
> for
> the next page, q for quit without selection of a RAMDAC.
> Q
>
> j. �K Just press enter if you don't want a Clockchip setting.
> What Clockchip setting do you want (1-12)? Enter
> �K
> You must be root to be able to run X-probeonly now.
> Do you want me to run 'X-probeonly" now? N
>
> k. �K 5 the modes are OK, continue.
> Enter your Choice: 5
>
> L. Shall I write it to /etc/X11/XF86config? Y
>
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From: "Me Here" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux util to read CPU temp / fan speed via WinBond chip?
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:36:02 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am seeking a utility that reads the WinBond health chip on my
> motherboard. In particular, I'd like the utilty to display the
> temperatures and fan speeds of my CPUs.
>
> Does such a beast exist for Linux?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> ***** Steve Snyder *****
IIRC, lm_sensors supports the WinBond chips. I don't remember the
URL, but doing a search on freshmeat.net for lm_sensors should start you
in the right direction.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.sparc,redhat.config,redhat.security.general
Subject: Linux Mailing Lists Archives
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 00:29:14 GMT
I'm looking for linux related mailing lists archives which can be
downloaded as plain ASCII.
So far, I've found the kernel-l, linux-net, linux-alpha and big-
linux lists available for download at ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu.
There are lots other which can be searched through web interface,
but I'm not interested on those. You can find quite a lot at:
http://kernelnotes.org/lnxlists/
http://linuxwww.db.erau.edu/mail_archives/
http://www.tux.org/hypermail/
I've been looking at ftpsearch also, but haven't been so lucky.
So where can you find linux mailing lists archives available
through FTP?
Is this newsgroup archived anywhere other than deja?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith R. Williams)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Subject: Re: COM1 or COM2 for the ext. modem; whats optimal?
Date: 6 Apr 2000 00:53:51 GMT
On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:46:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan
Panteltje) wrote:
> >Jan Panteltje wrote in message
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >>No this is not correct, on a serial channel (with a small (usually) FIFO),
> >>there are many interrupts per second.
> >
> >Up to ~15000 times per second, and service delay of slighly over 1ms is
> >acceptable (buffer is 16 bytes long). In properly written PC software
> >nothing should lock the interrupts for longer than 1ms. Current CPUs could
> >execute over 100000 instructions during that time.
> >
> The way it works in Linux, is that the interrupt handler puts some bytes in the
> 'flip' buffer (sorry thats what it is called), see /usr/src/linux/kernel/
> then do a grep flip
>
> This buffer is rather small (and bound by a 1024 byte page size).
> Now the scheduler comes around, every once in a while, to copy the 'flip'
> buffer to wherever (see kernel sources again).
> If time is to long, characters (bytes) are lost.
It is hard to believe that Linux is dumber than DOS. ...dumber
than Win95, ...dumber than...
..and I was about to move to Linux. I guess the time isn't
right.
I haven't seen an underrun in *years* (make that at least ten).
----
Keith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Abit BP6
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 00:59:14 GMT
On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 23:48:55 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> And where is this from? I have built many things with make -j3 and
>> both processors close to 100% and never had a bad build of anything.
>> I have had lockups, which is another story altogether. BP6 has
>> problems, but this is not one of them in my experience.
>>
>You would make me go and look it up. :-) Well, I found it again:
>http://www.nlug.org/smp/
>The guys submitting reports there have some scarey comments, like: The
>bios has some serious flaws in it, but the whole package is enough of a
>bargain to make up for it. Running the drives in DMA mode while driving
>both processors above 50% causes the machine to become unstable. [even
>at 66MHz FSB]
I've read enough. These are just user comments. Box of chocolates. Never
know what you are going to get next. Just like usenet, I would take
everything with a grain of salt. This guy is not so smart. Running a
2.2.12 kernel (many fixes since then and I know this is a while back),
SMP1.1 should be MPS1.1 and OC'd 400->570. Instability when OC'd only
proves it is not stable when OC'd. Does not prove it is unstable when
not OC'd.
Now, my advice is if you need something really, rock solid reliable from
the git-go, or don't want to spend time sorting stuff out, get another
board for sure. If you want inexpensive SMP, get this board, but be
prepared to spend some time getting the (potential) kinks worked out.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: WINMODEM - Yes OR No ???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 01:04:32 GMT
On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:57:11 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
>04/05/2000
> at 02:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () said:
>
>>On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:41:28 +0100, S�rgio Alves
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have a winmodem - Diamond
>>SupraExpress 56i Voice V.90 (Model 2710). >I check on Hardware section of
>>Suse and it said:
>>>
>>>Diamond SupraExpress 56i Voice V.90 (Model 2710) supported
>>>
>>>But in Linux Mandrake 7.0 i can't configure my modem. Should i get the Suse?
>>>there is any possibilities to configure the modem on the Mandrake?
>>>
>
>>Nope. You need a real modem.
>
>>All you have a sound card and windoze software to whistle like a modem.
>
>There's no (good) excuse for a WinModem -- even on a Windows-only PC. For
>even there the WinModem requires CPU cycles to do what a real modem can do
>on it's own.
But how else can you justify needing an 800mhz machine?
Of course, even w/ a real modem, w2k would be dog slow on such a machine.
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From: Ahmed Abukmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Installing a Network Printer
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 01:06:26 GMT
Hello,
I have two computers RH 6.0 running on the one connected to the
printer and I print w/o problems to /dev/lp0. I would like to setup the
other computer to be able to print to the printer. The two computers can
see each other since they both have private IP addresses 192.168.x.x
based addresses?
Thank you very much...
Ahmed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problems with new memory module
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 01:09:56 GMT
You've covered almost all of the normal problems so:
1. I had the greatest time with bad memory a while ago so some notes:
you may need to reinstall the OS as files may be damaged from
read/writes to memory
I wrote a memory checker (probably not as good as retail
but..), it took on average 6 hours to show an error - you might want
to recheck the memory fkor 24-48 hours
my original forced reboots were aprox 2-4 weeks apart if not more
2.you seem to be running both ram chips together - try just the 128.
hey it might work
Mark
On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:03:03 +0200, Tobias Meyer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I've been running linux now for sveral years, but this is new to me:
>The linux box I set up last year has the following setup
>- 350 AMD K6-2
>- Adaptec AIC-7871
>- WINCO Motherboard with a VIA 82C586 Apollo Chipset
>- 2 SCSI and 2 IDE Disks
>- 64MB PC100 SDRAM
>- SuSE 6.3 Linux with 2.2.13 Kernel
>and it has been running like a dream. I had uptimes of several months,
>and not a single crash. ( I rebooted only voluntarily )
>The only drawback was the little memory. Since the prices for PC100 RAM
>got acceptable again, I decided to buy another 128MB about 2 Weeks ago,
>and that's when my trouble started.
>I tried just about any combination of BIOS settings but the best I can
>get seem to be about 2 Days of Uptime until my system hangs without any
>message or obious reason.
>Oddly enough the RAM seems to be OK, since I ran excessive tests on it
>(I used ct-ram, a DOS-Tool specifically designed to detect memory
>errors, lasting for several hours)
>It also doesn't seem to be temperature-related as I bought an extra-fan
>and the temerature has dropped several degrees as opposed to the time my
>system was stable.
>I haven't changed anything in my setup except the memory, so I'm
>absolutely clueless.
>
>Has anyone experienced similar problems?
>Am I missing something obvious?
>
>If anyone knows something else I can try, please drop a note. The only
>solution I see is going back to 64MB of RAM and that is not really an
>option to me...
>
>Thx, Tobias
>--
>Tobias Meyer, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>###########################################################################
>
>#
># Self Test for Paranoia:
># You know you have it when you can't think of anything that's
># your own fault.
>#
># < this statement was brought to you by /usr/bin/fortune >
>###########################################################################
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: WINMODEM - Yes OR No ???
Reply-To: The news group
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 01:09:31 GMT
Look around here
http://www.linmodems.org/
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:41:28 +0100, S�rgio Alves
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a winmodem - Diamond SupraExpress 56i Voice V.90 (Model 2710).
>I check on Hardware section of Suse and it said:
>
>Diamond SupraExpress 56i Voice V.90 (Model 2710) supported
>
>But in Linux Mandrake 7.0 i can't configure my modem. Should i get the Suse?
>there is any possibilities to configure the modem on the Mandrake?
--
The warrenty and liability expired as you read the message.
If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it.
Do a, man every_command_here, before doing anything or running a script.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pierre Asselin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: unholy floppy problems!
Date: 6 Apr 2000 01:23:21 GMT
Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I have Debian 2.2 frozen on an alphaxl266. everything works fine, kernel
>2.2.14 is running right now but i am unable to mount any floppies!
Does the floppy work at all? Can you dd a file to /dev/fd0 and back?
Can you use mtools? (Just trying to isolate the problem here.)
--
--Pierre Asselin, Westminster, Colorado
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WINMODEM - Yes OR No ???
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:30:39 -0400
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
04/06/2000
at 01:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () said:
>But how else can you justify needing an 800mhz machine?
LOL!
>Of course, even w/ a real modem, w2k would be dog slow on such a machine.
Hmm... Gonna find out maybe soon. (That nail it down for ya? ;-)
I've got a 700 that I'm buying now and I was real impressed with Win98 on
128MB RAM. I've already tested Linux and OS/2 and they fly. But since
I'm going to experiment with W2K I'm going with an extra 128MB RAM for a
total of 256MB.
I had an old DOS game that was time to the CPU clock. It ran great on my
8088. But when I upgraded to a 486 (dx/2-50) it ran too fast. Wonder
what it would do on a 700MHz Athlon. :-O
--
===========================================================
Duane A. Bielling
http://www.datasync.com/~bielling
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matt. 6:33; John 3:16; Rom. 8:1
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Subject: find out the dma? (stupid soundcard question)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kerne Fahey)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:44:41 -0400
I have a linux box running 2.0.36, with a nice SB 64 soundcard I'd like to get
working. As we know, to compile in support for a soundcard, one needs A) the
irq, B) the I/O channel, and C) the DMA channel.
I can get the first two with cat /proc/pci . How, however, can I find out
the DMA? I don't have the card's manual, and it doesn't seem to be mentioned
anywhere in the bios [Award].
Is there some specific /proc entity that will mention the card's DMA, or a
probe which will divine it? How can I discover the card's DMA?
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From: "nick hanno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Avoid 133MHz KINGMAX SDRAM
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:52:14 +1000
Finally after almost one week of debugging have I found the problem...
My system:
P III 533EB MHz (Coppermine)
128MB 133MHz SDRAM (KingMax - Version 1.2)
MS-6153VA M/B (MSI - with VIA chipset)
etc.
With a FSB of 133MHz this is a really fast machine (probably not for long
tho! :) )
After putting this machine together it didn't work... Windows would never
complete the install without a blue screen... Linux (Slackware 7.0)
installed fine but when using it, Segfaulted quite often, and X just did not
run at all (too many Segfaults)... After changing the RAM (same brand) and
M/B (same model), things were no different.
After using memtest86-2.0 (before and after changing SDRAM) I discovered
errors in both of them. See the table below...
SDRAM timing - 8nS
SDRAM Cycle Length - 2uS
SDRAM Clock - 133MHz
These were the suggested settings, the only thing I changed was the SDRAM
timing from 10nS (100MHz) to 8nS (125MHz - well below 133MHz) after
inspecting the RAM seeing that they were 7nS (143MHz).
THIS PRODUCED THE MOST ERRORS.
Less errors were seen (but still present) when increasing SDRAM timing from
8nS to 10nS...
Even less errors were seen (but still present) when increasing SDRAM cycle
time from 2nS to 3nS...
NO ERRORS were seen when decreasing SDRAM clock from 133MHz to 100MHz -
therefore this SDRAM is NOT 133MHz!...
The system runs flawlessly now...However, being unable to change the M/B I
dont know if it could be a M/B problem running SDRAM at 133MHz (as the
processor still is)... If anyone out there is using 133MHz KingMax SDRAM
with a timing / cycle / clock of 8nS / 2nS / 133MHz successfully, please let
me know. The version number on the SDRAM stick is 1.2 using 16 pieces
(double sided) of RAM to obtain 128MB.
Just thought i'd let you know...
Nick.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: read CD-RW
Date: 05 Apr 2000 21:46:51 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:30:07 GMT, Xavier
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>How can I read CD-RW with Linux?
The same way you read a regular CD-ROM: Put in drive, "mount -t iso9660
/dev/FOO /mnt/cdrom", access. You will need a relatively new CD-ROM drive
(one with automatic gain control) or a CD-R(W) for the disc to be
recognized, since the differing optical properties of CD-RW media mean
that older and/or cheap newer models can't read them.
If this is a CD-RW written with ACraptek's "Direct CD" or a similar piece
of packet-writing software, you'll need the UDF filesystem driver. Get
the latest experimental kernel (2.3.99-pre3) and compile it with "UDF
Filesystem Support". HTH,
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: "Koon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Serial Port
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:03:38 +0800
Hi,
I am trying using the CU command to telnet into the modem attached on the
serial port 2, but when i issues the cu -a ttys1 , i got error message that
the port is in use. Why ? i had no other application running to access to my
modem ?
Koon.
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