Linux-Hardware Digest #750, Volume #12           Wed, 26 Apr 00 14:14:18 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Printer company support for Linux (Michael J Porter)
  Re: Installing Linux on Primary Slave hard Drive?? (Michael J Porter)
  graphics upgrade for dell optiplex xmt (john connolly)
  Re: Ultra-DMA 66 in Linux ????? (D G)
  Re: Ultra-DMA 66 in Linux ????? (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: WD 102ba 7200 drive low transfer rates (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Brain-dead sound card choice (SB live?) (Dances With Crows)
  Re: RedHat 6.2 not recognizing 384MB RAM (Dances With Crows)
  Re: mouse makes noise ("He who does the obeying (sometimes)")
  Re: Ultra-DMA 66 in Linux ????? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: sound distorted! (John Culleton)
  US Robotics Sportster 14.400 External modem :(((( ("Linux User")
  Re: WD 102ba 7200 drive low transfer rates ("Jeff Susanj")
  Re: mouse makes noise (Prasanth Kumar)
  Re: Linux on a notebook with an ATI Rage Mobility? (Andy Bristow)
  hda:hda:irq timeout - problem! ("Joerg C. Schlager")
  Re: Weird printing problem (Robie Basak)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael J Porter)
Subject: Re: Printer company support for Linux
Date: 26 Apr 2000 12:06:14 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric Laffoon  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
=>John Bowling wrote:
=>
=>> With the number of questions here about recognizing and/or printing on ink
=>> jets from Linux, I just checked the web sites of the four major brands that
=>> I know  of:  HP, Canon, Epson, and LexMark.
=>>
=>> Two of them, Canon and Epson, return nothing when a search for Linux is
=>> made.  They do some support of Mac OS but with special printers rather than
=>> special drivers.
=>>
=>> LexMark has server web software for handling print ques over the internet,
=>> but no specific printer drivers for non-network Linux systems.  These were
=>> for Unix and NT, and recently have RedHat Linuz (only) support.
=>>
=>> HP is the ONLY company making Ink Jet printers that is taking a major step
=>> forward in doing open support for Linux.  Check out this site:
=>>
=>> http://www.internetsolutions.enterprise.hp.com/linux/index.html
=>>
=>> So it looks as if the rest of the printer manufacturers want to throw away
=>> the business back to the origional ink jet printer company, HP.
=>>
=>> Let the others have what they want - toss their printers in the trash along
=>> with the MS garbage!  Certainly, don't every buy a non Linux replacement!
=>>
=>> John
=>
=>Get your facts straight! HP is looking for enterprise business with Linux!
=>That's laserjet, most people here with printer issues have them with inkjets.
=>In this area while HP has a lot supported they often don't take advantage of
=>HP's high end proprietary printing. Lexmark ink jets are mostly win-printers
=>that are just now seeing support. Epson and Cannon are fairly well supported.
=>
=>In all cases the support for these printers is user support!!!
=>
=>So go buy a new HP inkjet and see if you get any support. Don't hold your
=>breath. Look here for a nearly up to date list of supported printers.
=>http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi

As far as I know, Epson has always made their tech specs available,
which after all, is what most Linux developers really want.  I'm
not suggesting that other companies don't do this as well.  Check
out the gimp-print gimp plugin (don't have the url handy, but the
project is on sourceforge and announced on the gimp site)

Mike
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Mike Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael J Porter)
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on Primary Slave hard Drive??
Date: 26 Apr 2000 12:03:09 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John McKown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
=>I dual boot one system (Linux 99%, Win2K 1% - under duress). In any case,
=>I have LILO do the booting. LILO will boot Windows 2000 with NO problem.
=>I did not have WindowsNT before Win2K, so I don't know about that. In fact,
=>Win2K lives on the first primary partition of the first HD on the first
=>IDE channel (aka /dev/hda1). All I have in LILO is:
=>
=>other = /dev/hda1
=>      label = windows
=>
=>When I absolutely MUST boot into Win2K, I simply type in "windows" at the
=>LILO prompt. 

I type DOS...it's a more accurate label.

Mike
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Mike Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
PGP Fingerprint: F4 AE E1 9F 67 F7 DA EA  2F D2 37 F3 99 ED D1 C2

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From: john connolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: graphics upgrade for dell optiplex xmt
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:11:39 -0500

I have a dell optiplex xmt which has a s3 vision graphics chips embedded
in the mb. There is only 1mb video memory presently. The design allows
upgrade to 2mb but dell doesn't list the memory chips in their web site.
My question is:  if I install a pci graphics accelerator will the system
recognize it?
Thanks, JWC


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From: D G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ultra-DMA 66 in Linux ?????
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:15:42 -0700

Hal Burgiss wrote:
> You can use hdparm to see what mode it is running in:
> 
> [root@feenix tmp]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
> 
> [...]
> 
>  UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 *mode2 mode3 mode4
> 
> This be UDMA33. If mode4 is flagged, you are 66.

So what do the other modes mean?

-- 
DG
e-mail is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(remove the Z's--they're what I do when I read SPAM!)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Ultra-DMA 66 in Linux ?????
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:19:30 GMT

On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:42:46 GMT, Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>On 4/25/00, 6:22:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With 
>Crows) wrote regarding Re: Ultra-DMA 66 in Linux ?????:
>
>> Verrrry interesting.  "hdparm -i /dev/hdb" on my machine shows mode4 
>as
>> flagged, yet "hdparm -t /dev/hdb" gives "only" 13M/sec.  I've heard of
>> people getting approx. 20 or so with that when UDMA/66 is working 
>well.
>> I have kernel 2.3.99-pre3 with support for the VIA MVP3 on my mobo
>> enabled, and /dev/hdb here is a 7200RPM Western Digital with 2M
>> cache.  (I'm not unhappy with the disk I/O, but if it could be better,
>> hey....)
>
>   somethin's wrong with your hardware (mobo?)

I believe also, there was a thread a coupla weeks ago on linux-kernel
about a big drop off in disk performance with 2.3.x. somewhere along the
way. I didn't follow close enough to know if this ever got resolved or
not, and what versions were effected.

-- 
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: WD 102ba 7200 drive low transfer rates
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:26:28 GMT

On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:00:27 GMT, Subetai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My 7200 wd drive only gets 14 Megabytes seconds in transfer rate.  Most
>of the posts I have seen people are ranging closer to twenty.  Does any
>one know of a solution to increase the transfer rate.  The system seems
>sluggish compared to what i had before with a 5400 quantum drive.  My
>system: WD 7200 102ba, Epox MVP3C2 128 Kingston ram, Stealth s220 Video
>card.  I hope this is not a hard ware problem, any suggestions welcome.

Do you have DMA enabled? If not, you would likely be getting less than
this. Also, are any other drives sharing the IDE channel? Putting a
CDROM on the same channel can cause a slowdown I believe.

-- 
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Brain-dead sound card choice (SB live?)
Date: 26 Apr 2000 12:26:54 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 26 Apr 2000 14:24:20 GMT, Michael W. Godfrey 
<<8e6u6k$c6r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>
>I'm buying a new system that will dual boot win98 and linux.
>I have heard mixed messages about Creative's support for Linux.
>Is there a better choice for "maximal compatilbility" and "brain-dead
>setup"?  Any reason not to buy one of the Sb cards?

Ensoniq AudioPCI --no mucking with IRQs or DMAs, reasonable sound[0],
supported out-of-box under Linux with the ES1371 kernel module,
(sndconfig finds it right off; "modprobe es1371" will do the Right
Thing with any recent distro) and it's cheap too.

Why not the SB?  Well, check the archives on Deja for problems people have
had with trying to set those up.  Some get it working easily, some
don't.  Theoretically the latest kernels have managed to get better/easier
support for these.  Of course, YMMV.

[0] I am not an audiophile, though.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.2 not recognizing 384MB RAM
Date: 26 Apr 2000 12:34:03 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:51:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<<8e7398$8v5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>My Linux box will not recognize the 384MB of RAM I have installed,
[massive snip]

Have you read the FAQ about Linux and memory over 64M?  Go do
that.  http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ and take a look at all the lovely
FAQs and HOWTOs there.

To solve your problem, at the LILO prompt, enter
linux mem=384M
and see what happens.  If it works, edit /etc/lilo.conf so that it
contains the line
append="mem=384M"
before any of the image= lines, then run /sbin/lilo and all the memory
will be found upon subsequent boots.

(Why is this not autodetected?  Well, some BIOSes are smarter than others
wrt memory, and the advanced memory-detection bits in 2.3.99-pre5 haven't
been backported into the 2.2 series yet...)

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:39:00 +0000
From: "He who does the obeying (sometimes)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: mouse makes noise

It is possible that what you are getting is physical induction of the
mouse signal into the speakers, if the latter are amplified.  do your
mouse and speaker leads run close and roughly parallel for any distance?
If so try separating them, you may detect a change/reduction in the
noise in your speaker.  worked for me. I ue a PS/2 mouse and PCI sound
card, interrupts definitely did not clash.  Good luck!
-- 
John J. Frake

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Ultra-DMA 66 in Linux ?????
Date: 26 Apr 2000 12:39:20 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:15:42 -0700, D G 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Hal Burgiss wrote:
>> You can use hdparm to see what mode it is running in:
>> 
>>  UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 *mode2 mode3 mode4
>> 
>> This be UDMA33. If mode4 is flagged, you are 66.
>
>So what do the other modes mean?

UDMA Mode    Cycle (ns)    Transfer rate (MB/sec)    Spec
0            240           16.67                     ATA-4 (UDMA/33)
1            160           25.00                     ATA-4 (UDMA/33)
2            120           33.33                     ATA-4 (UDMA/33)
3             90           44.44                     ATA-5 (UDMA/66)
4             60           66.66                     ATA-5 (UDMA/66)

...so "why do modes 1 and 3 exist?" might be the next question.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sound distorted!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:39:32 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Steve Fosdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Culleton wrote:
>
> > I can send sound samples to /dev/audio and /dev/dsp OK as
> > described in the Sound-HOWTO. I can play midi files or cdroms OK.
> > But when I attempt to use either system sounds under KDE or
> > REalplay 7 clips I get horribly distorted sound. Here is my
>
> Interesting problem!  A few days ago I found an old SoundBlaster 16
(the
> original ISA one) unused and tried in my PC in place of a Jazz16.

I am having posting problems so if this is duplicative I apologize.
I am ready to try another card. My current card has an Analog Devices
20Mhz ADSP-2115 DSP. If anyone can suggest the correct driver please do
so. Otherwise, is there a well supported (by Linux) 16 bit card out ther
that someone can recommend?

John Culleton
>
> --
> Steve Fosdick                  Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Voice: +44 1473 642987         MSMAIL:   BTEA/BTLIP23/FOSDICSJ
> Fax:   +44 1473 646656         BOAT:     FOSDICSJ
> Snail: B29/G34, BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, IP5 7RE, England.
>
My card is a Gamewave 32 and I know it can be made to work because I had
it working correctly before I upgraded to Slack 7 and Realplay 7. But I
am
ready to throw in the towel. Do you know of a decent 16 bit card that
works with Linux without any fuss and feathers? Currently I have to
boot msdos first just to get the thing to work at all. Surely there must
be a not too expensive card out there that plays nicely with Penguins!

I am open to suggestions. by the by, my present card has an Analog
Devices
20Mhz ADSP-2115 DSP chipset, if that rings any bells with anyone.

John Culleton


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: "Linux User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: US Robotics Sportster 14.400 External modem :((((
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:17:12 +0200

How can I make this modem work under linux?
I have Red Hat 6.0

thank's



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From: "Jeff Susanj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WD 102ba 7200 drive low transfer rates
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:27:01 GMT

This leads me to a related question.  I have a 486 style computer with an
ISA bus.  Would I be able to take advantage of the faster drive speed?  i.e.
would the bus be the limiting factor in my case?


Jeff S.


Subetai wrote in message <8e709v$5b7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> My 7200 wd drive only gets 14 Megabytes seconds in transfer rate.  Most
>of the posts I have seen people are ranging closer to twenty.  Does any
>one know of a solution to increase the transfer rate.  The system seems
>sluggish compared to what i had before with a 5400 quantum drive.  My
>system: WD 7200 102ba, Epox MVP3C2 128 Kingston ram, Stealth s220 Video
>card.  I hope this is not a hard ware problem, any suggestions welcome.
>
>--
>There is no royal road to science, and only those who do not dread the
>fatiguing climb of its steep path have a chance of gaining its luminous
>summits--Karl Marx
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.



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From: Prasanth Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: mouse makes noise
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:01:57 GMT

"He who does the obeying (sometimes)" wrote:
> 
> It is possible that what you are getting is physical induction of the
> mouse signal into the speakers, if the latter are amplified.  do your
> mouse and speaker leads run close and roughly parallel for any distance?
> If so try separating them, you may detect a change/reduction in the
> noise in your speaker.  worked for me. I ue a PS/2 mouse and PCI sound
> card, interrupts definitely did not clash.  Good luck!
> --
> John J. Frake

You might also try the "no_hlt" (or "no_halt"?) option during lilo boot.
This is supposed to prevent the cpu from halting during idle time, a 
process prone to make RF noises on some motherboards and when the mouse 
causes an interrupt, resulting is the buzzing noise.

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Andy Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a notebook with an ATI Rage Mobility?
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:33:14 +0100

"robert t. lemmon" wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 12:33:57 +0200, "Tech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Hi, everybody.
> >I'm about to buy a Gericom notebook (Millenium series)
> >providing an ATI Rage Mobility video adapter (8 MB SGRAM,
> >2x AGP). The question is simple: is X11 compatible with it?
> >If so, can it take advantage of its specific 2D/3D capabilities?
> >Thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> >Tech
> >
> >
> the ATI Rage Mobility is, i've been told, supported by
> XFree 3.3.6, which you can download from their web
> site. also 3.3.6 should be appearing soon on some
> of the Linux distribution CD's, if you'ld rather not
> rebuild it yourself.

I'm using RH 6.2 on a DELL with a Rage Mobility M1 (8Mb) chip. I had to
choose the text install method, but X works fine using the Mach64 server
at 1024x768x32bpp.

RH 6.2 includes XFree 3.3.6

regards,

--
Andy Bristow

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From: "Joerg C. Schlager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hda:hda:irq timeout - problem!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:52:25 +0200


hello

I have compiled and patched a new kernel 2.2.12 to make use of my UDMA
hd but there is a problem.

When I boot I often get following message:

hda: hda: irq timeout: status = 0xd0 (busy)
ide0: reset: success

when I get this message and run hdparm -t /dev/hda I have only 8MB/sec.

sometimes I don't get this message and when I run hdparm I get about
19MB/sec


I don't know what to do to solve this problem. Why do I sometimes get
this timeout message and sometimes not

Please help me with this
Joerg




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Weird printing problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Apr 2000 17:57:30 GMT

On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:18:51 GMT, Thaddeus said:
>I recently upgraded to a new computer. I kept most of the same files and
>peripherals of the old computer, including the printer. I've got a TI
>Microlaser Plus printer. It worked fine on the old computer when setup
>under printtool using the Generic Postscript driver. On the new
>computer, I set everything up exactly the same as it was and printtool's
>test pages worked perfectly. The problem is that whenever I try to print
>postscript from an application it doesn't work. The file gets sent to
>the printer just fine and the printer display indicates that it's
>processing the file. But then when it would normally print it just goes
>back to the online idle state. Same thing happens with every program. I
>also tried printing to a file and using lpr to send the file to the
>printer, no good. It prints ASCII just fine, postscript is the only
>problem. I have the EOF option set. Any ideas? TIA

Get hold of a postscript file which you know works (there's one
called testpage-a4.ps somewhere if you have Redhat).

Then do:
  cat filename > /dev/lp0

and see if that does anything.

Robie.
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