Linux-Hardware Digest #96, Volume #13            Thu, 22 Jun 00 20:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: 2.2.16 Redhat RPM install breaks 2940uw (Ronald Cole)
  Re: Athlon problems (Sandhitsu R Das)
  Re: More 3C509 problems, confused!?! ("John F. Connolly")
  Re: Num Lock & Linux (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Internal Modem (David C.)
  Re: Linux Device Drivers for TV Video Capture Cards Listed in LhD
  Scsi Card (root)
  Re: Linux Device Drivers for TV Video Capture Cards Listed in LhD
  ftp server & pioneer cd changers (o4tuna)
  Re: Scsi Card (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Scsi Card ("bdl")
  Re: More 3C509 problems, confused!?! ("T Bluck.")
  Re: Epson Stylus Color 740 ("Eric J. Shamow")
  Re: Getting RH Linux to recognize ATA66 IDE controller (Brandon Nuttall)
  Re: How do you force a 10/100 card to step down to 10 Mbs? (Jason A. Haman)
  Re: ATI Rage 128 (Brandon Nuttall)
  Re: Epson Stylus Color 740 ("Eric J. Shamow")
  Re: Linux Device Drivers for TV Video Capture Cards Listed in LhD ("LhD 
Administrator")
  Re: ES1371 -- any good ? ("LhD Administrator")
  Re: terminal on linux? ("Scott G. Hall")
  Re: Can Linux do this?  KIOSKS - Lite Linux desktop? Lock-down configs? (Aaron 
Kulkis)

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From: Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.16 Redhat RPM install breaks 2940uw
Date: 22 Jun 2000 15:02:01 -0700

mark kennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> That is a tribute to the ability of the internet to support Linux.
> Thanks

Yeah, there's plenty of us ready and willing to tell po' saps like u
to rtfm...  ;)

-- 
Forte International, P.O. Box 1412, Ridgecrest, CA  93556-1412
Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      Phone: (760) 499-9142
President, CEO                             Fax: (760) 499-9152
My GPG fingerprint: C3AF 4BE9 BEA6 F1C2 B084  4A88 8851 E6C8 69E3 B00B

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From: Sandhitsu R Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Athlon problems
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:26:50 -0400

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Ancipital wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:49:42 -0300, Jim Chisholm
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Don't happen to have a G400 video card do you?
> >Athlon700 + G400 = tempermental (IMHO)
> >
> 
> How so? This box (athlon 800 on an asus k7v+Single head 32 meg g400)
> is impeccably behaved..
> 


Mine too! Rock solid - even with older drivers - old 6.0 distro.


> 
> Ancipital- Inedible Buddhas reality control #1
> http://www.buddhas.org is currently tqt- back soon.
> 
> To unmung email addr, get rid of "nospam-" and maybe even "-thanks"
> 
> "I'm not crying victim, but I am stating that a lot of spammers 
> are genuine scumbags." -Sanford Wallace
> 


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From: "John F. Connolly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More 3C509 problems, confused!?!
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:34:47 +0100

If it helps.......

The only way that I could get my 3c509 to work was to use the rom
configuration package that came with the card to turn off the plug and
play seetings on the NIC card. Once I had done that the card worked
perfectly.

John

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Num Lock & Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:40:50 GMT

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:20:45 +0200, Wilbert Kruithof
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I had the problem with Redhat 6.0 en now also with Redhat 6.2.
>       If I boot the computer, numlock is on after the BIOS start. When I boot
>Windows it stays on. But when I boot Linux, it goes off. And I have to
>set it manually.
>       Is this problem known, if so, what�s the fix?
>       It may has to do something with the keyboard. Dutch keyboard and
>settings.
>       Who�s knows it?

 http://feenix.eyep.net/xstuff/numlock.html

-- 
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Subject: Re: Internal Modem
Date: 22 Jun 2000 18:58:28 -0400

"Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> How can I configure my internal Modem (PCI)? My Mainboard is from
> MSI. The Linux I�m using is SuSE Linux 6.4

You didn't say what kind of modem you have.  This makes it nearly
impossible to telly ou what to do.

Most PCI modems are so-called "winmodems".  They are really fancy sound
cards that attach to a phone line.  They rely exclusively on software to
encode data into sound and decode received sound back into data.  There
is some work in progress towards supporting certain kinds of winmodems,
but I don't know much more than that.

A real modem contains hardware for encoding and decoding the audio on
the phone line.  They usually emulate a serial port, so no special
software (aside from the generic serial port driver that comes with
every operatng system) is required in order to use it.  Since the v.90
protocol is running in hardware instead of software, much less overhead
is imposed on your CPU as well.

In general, if you have a winmodem, I'd recommend replacing it with a
real modem.  If you aren't sure whether a given PCI modem is real or a
winmodem, assume it's a winmodem - most are.  For that reason, I only
recommend external serial-port modems.

-- David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Linux Device Drivers for TV Video Capture Cards Listed in LhD
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:10:12 GMT

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:41:30 GMT, LhD Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Linux Hardware Database - Category: TV/Video Card
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------

        ...and possibility this automated posting could in future 
        include the necessary loading instructions for the current
        production and current development kernels?

[deletia]

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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:09:05 +0300
From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Scsi Card

hello,
i have mandrak 7.0 installed and i'm trying to add a scsi card i have
the
module but every time i reboot i need to reload the module (insmod
aic7xxx.o)
how can i put it in the startup rutine to be load automaticly
Help
Please
motti
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Linux Device Drivers for TV Video Capture Cards Listed in LhD
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:16:55 GMT

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:41:30 GMT, LhD Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Linux Hardware Database - Category: TV/Video Card
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------

        ...and another thing: the Hauppauge WinTV 401 uses the Bt878 and
        not the Bt848. This is important as versions of bttv prior to about
        0.5.11 were not fully compatible with the Bt878/879.

[deletia]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o4tuna)
Subject: ftp server & pioneer cd changers
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:21:54 GMT

howdy, I have a couple of questions about setting up an ftp server.
 1. I have 4 pioneer drm-600 scsi cd changers (if this works, i'll get
a dozen more), which I want to set up on my ftp server (i just put the
box together & am currently d/l linux to install on it), can I make a
linux ftp server use these? 
 1.b. how can I set it up so that users can switch drives?
 1. a. can I configure it so that while a particular disc is in use
another user can not change the disc, ie: there would have to be a
particular amount of nonuse on a drive before it would allow a disc
change?
 2. users will be accessing this from the internet, it will also be my
firewall/proxy for my intranet, (how) can I SAFELY mount partitions on
windows boxes on my intranet for access thru the ftp server?

thanks, mark

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Scsi Card
Date: 22 Jun 2000 19:34:21 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:09:05 +0300, root 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>hello,
>i have mandrak 7.0 installed and i'm trying to add a scsi card i have
>the
>module but every time i reboot i need to reload the module (insmod
>aic7xxx.o)
>how can i put it in the startup rutine to be load automaticly

Edit /etc/conf.modules to include the line
  alias scsi_hostadapter aic7xx
and make sure all other lines containing "scsi_hostadapter" are commented
out or nonexistent (I'm assuming you only have the one SCSI card
here.)  Then whenever you try to access a SCSI device, the kernel module
loader should look for that module and load it if it isn't already loaded.

You can also put "insmod aic7xxx" at the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local, but
that's kind of a kludge....

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and still
 \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me

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From: "bdl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Scsi Card
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:35:42 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> hello, i have mandrak 7.0 installed and i'm trying to add a scsi card i
> have the module but every time i reboot i need to reload the module
> (insmod aic7xxx.o) how can i put it in the startup rutine to be load
> automaticly Help Please motti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
I would really reccomend compiling the kernel with SCSI support built-in,
rather than use a modular approach, but if you want to go that way, and
it's not a bootable device, you can just add this line to your
/etc/rc.d/rc.local:

/sbin/modprobe aic7xxx


and it will load the module for you upon boot. 

-- 
bdl
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Linux 2.2.16usb #1 Sun Jun 18 19:27:13 PDT 2000 i686
4:27pm up 1 min, 1 user, load average: 0.59, 0.23, 0.08


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From: "T Bluck." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More 3C509 problems, confused!?!
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:14:25 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John F. Connolly
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>If it helps.......
>
>The only way that I could get my 3c509 to work was to use the rom
>configuration package that came with the card to turn off the plug and
>play seetings on the NIC card. Once I had done that the card worked
>perfectly.
>
>John
I'm using a few 3C509B cards here in the Linux (red hat) boxes.
I set them up by booting with a DOS floppy, then ran the config
software.   They're all working fine.
-- 
Tim Bluck.   TB565   http://www.planet-tharg.demon.co.uk

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From: "Eric J. Shamow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Epson Stylus Color 740
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:40:38 -0000

Wolfgang Fritz wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>You can also try to compile the parport and lp drivers into the kernel.

When I try to select this, config tells me that due to another selection
I've made, it's going to use a module here.  It would be extraordinarily
helpful if it told me which selection that was...any ideas?

-Eric




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From: Brandon Nuttall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Getting RH Linux to recognize ATA66 IDE controller
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:34:49 -0400

Charlie Zender wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Redhat linux 6.2 will not install on my machine, it quits installation
> procedure with the error "No valid devices were found on which to create
> new filesystems". I have it from a helpful netizen that the problem is
> that lilo does not know how to find the ATA66 controller, and the suggested
> fix is booting with "linux ide2=0x1080" and eventually
> adding a line to lilo.conf like so:
>
> >The bottom line is that Linux cannot find the ATA 66.
> >Here's what the core of my lilo.conf eventually looked
> >like after I got things installed:
>
> >image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-5.0
> >       label=linux
> >       append="ide2=0x1080"
> >       read-only
> >       root=/dev/hde5
>
> >other=/dev/hde1
> >       label=dos
>
> Before I try this solution I have some questions:
> 1. Is this solution safe? Is it alway ide2? How do I know whether
> to use ide1 instead? What if I'm wrong with that hex address? Will
> it trash my windows partition?
>
> 2. Is this a generic problem with ATA66 controllers? with just
> the Promise ATA66 controllers? Is the problem fixed in kernel 2.4.0.test?
> Or should I just assume the problem will still be in 2.4 and install
> Redhat 6.2 now?
>
> 3. Is there a better solution? e.g., making a driver disk with the
> "right" ata66 module on it?
>
> Thanks,
> Charlie
>
>  Here is my hardware description
>  > Dell Dimension T Minitower 800 MHz PIII
>  > 256 MB RAM
>  > 40 GB Ultra ATA 7200 RPM with ATA 66 controller
>  > NIC: 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI PCI For Complete PC Management (3c905c-TX)
>  > NVIDIA TNT2 M64 4xAGP w 32MB RAM
>  > Microsoft PS/2 Mouse (Intellipoint)
>  > Promise Technology Inc. Ultra66 IDE Controller
>  > Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
>  > 120 MB Super disk, aka LS120
>  > Sony 8X/4X/32X CD-RW drive
>
> --
> Charlie Zender [EMAIL PROTECTED] (949) 824-2987/FAX-3256, Department of
> Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine CA 92697-3100

I have read that the easiest thing to do is to install your distro with the
HDD in ATA-33 mode and come back to enable ATA-66... RH6.2 does not seem to
have any problems installing on an ATA-33 machine... I would thumb through the
HOWTOs; I think I remember a tutorial there.

Hope this helps, Brandon.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason A. Haman)
Subject: Re: How do you force a 10/100 card to step down to 10 Mbs?
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:43:34 GMT

Usually this is done at the hardware level, by using the configuration
utility provided with the card.  I've done this with 3Com and Intel
cards, I would expect others to be similar.  You boot with an ordinary
DOS boot floppy, with no config.sys or autoexec.bat, put in the floppy
that came with the card, and run the configuration program.  It should
let you set the card to autosense, 10 Mb, or 100 Mb as well as
changing other settings.  You shouldn't have to change anything in the
operating system.

Jason Haman


On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:43:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

>I'm running Redhat 6.1, and I hae a LinkSys Etherfast 10/100 card
>running the tulip driver, as recommended (did I even phrase that
>right?)  When I type commands like "ifconfig -r" I can see the physical
>address of the card, the IRQ, all kinds of goodies, leading me to
>believe that the driver is properly communicating with the card.
>
>The card cannot pind anything and I keep getting intermittent
>connection lights on my 10 mbs hub.  My gut tells me the card wants to
>be in 100mbs mode, and isn't auto-detecting the 10 mbs router.
>
>Can I force the card to run at 10 mbs?  help, help, help!!!
>
>Signed,
>
>a Windows Convert.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.


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From: Brandon Nuttall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ATI Rage 128
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:41:09 -0400

James C Randall wrote:

> Warren Gross wrote:
>
> > I'm having a strange problem with my ATI Rage 128 (XPERT 2000)
> >
> > I installed Redhat 6.2 (xfree86 3.3.6) and it found and configured
> > the card properly. I get video that appears ok, but whenever I move
> > a window I see a lot of strange video noise appearing as vertical bands
> > running from the top to the bottom of the screen. They are relatively
> > evenly spaced.
> >
> > Anybody else seen this problem? Is the card ok?
> >
> >     Warren
>
> I've seen similar situations on my RH 6.1 using XPERT Rage.......But
> ONLY when I have the mouse in the window.   Once I move the mouse....the
> bands go away.  (But as I use that system as a server.......I'm not really
> too workied about.)

I've seen this before, but only when I was running GNOME.  In KDE, I don't
have this problem.  GNOME only problem?

Brandon


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From: "Eric J. Shamow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Epson Stylus Color 740
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:50:16 -0000

Grant Taylor wrote in message ...
>"Eric J. Shamow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I suspect you're right - my cursory glance at /proc/parport/0 told me
>> everything was fine, but a slightly less exhausted eye noticed that Linux
>> was failing to assign either an IRQ or DMA to the port.  I've got the
BIOS
>> configuring the port for me...am I missing something?
>
>Probably not.  The default parallel modes don't use interrups, and I
>don't think any of them use DMA.

Old M$ instincts kicking in...yep, you're right, I'm using polling.

>> Yeah, I caught that in the HOWTO - it *was* missing initially, but it's
long
>> been corrected to no avail.
>
>Have you unloaded and reloaded modules since then?  Check what's in
>your kernel with lsmod.

Everything appears to be loaded properly.  Here's the output of lsmod:

Module                  Size  Used by
au8830                138824   0  (unused)
lp                      5412   0  (unused)
parport_pc              7460   1
parport                 7016   1  [lp parport_pc]

The (unused) next to lp *does* go away when I try to redirect to /dev/lp0;
the au8830 is a sound driver.

>It would be useful to see the output from the parport driver on init:
>unload and reload the drivers and see what it says it's found.
>Compare that to your BIOS settings.  If it still fails to work, try
>fiddling with BIOS settings next.


Dmesg reports the following two lines on boot:

parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2]
lp0: using parport0 (polling).

I've tried fiddling with the port settings (using unidirectional,
bi-directional, and ECP and EPP just for the hell of it), but nothing seems
to make any difference.

Parport can be removed and re-installed without trouble; lp does produce an
error message on insmod though:

/lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/lp.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
Using /lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/lp.o
Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including
invalid IO or IRQ parameters

 *sigh*

Thank you for your help so far, BTW - the expertise is much appreciated.

-Eric




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Reply-To: "LhD Administrator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "LhD Administrator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Device Drivers for TV Video Capture Cards Listed in LhD
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:52:48 GMT

> ...and possibility this automated posting could in future
> include the necessary loading instructions for the current
> production and current development kernels?

This is actually not an automated posting. We have instructions on the
LhD site (although we could probably use more), if we included *all* the
information we have for each product, the postings would be really big.
The idea is to supply the most important information and link to the rest.

> ...and another thing: the Hauppauge WinTV 401 uses the Bt878 and
> not the Bt848. This is important as versions of bttv prior to about

We'll get one of the editors to look at this and see about fixing it. Thank
you for the tip.


--
LhD Administrator
Linux Hardware Database
http://www.linhardware.com




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Reply-To: "LhD Administrator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "LhD Administrator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ES1371 -- any good ?
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:57:34 GMT

> I am looking into performance comparisons with different sound cards.
> Is there any difference using different sound cards, ie. interupt
> frequency, processor time spend or whatsoever.

It gets a 4.5 out of 5.0 from LhD user ratings, which is usually a very good
sign.
For the detailed user reports on this particular card:

http://www.linhardware.com/db/dispproduct.php3?DISP?38

And at $25 or so, it's a pretty good deal.


--
LhD Administrator
Linux Hardware Database
http://www.linhardware.com




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From: "Scott G. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: terminal on linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.terminals,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:52:28 GMT
Reply-To: David Szotten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

David Szotten wrote:
> I've got my hands on a vt420 terminal and I'm trying to get it to work with
> my linux system. I haven't got much experience in terminals, so does anyone
> have any idea as to what I have to do to get it to work?

This question is best asked in one of the Linux sys-admin newsgroups:

        comp.os.linux.setup
        comp.os.linux.questions
        comp.os.linux.hardware
        comp.os.linux.misc

or simply a unix sys-admin newsgroup:  comp.unix.admin

Basically, you want to setup a terminal port monitor process to run on the
serial port you want wish to connect the terminal -- for SVR4 systems use
"ttymon", most other systems (like Linux) use a form of "getty" or "uugetty".
Though each UNIX is different, there is usually a good set documents or man
pages for setting up the port monitor.  In fact, the most common example is
how to setup a simple terminal -- such as what you want, and usually a modem.

The port monitor is responsible for generating the infamous UNIX "login:"
prompt, sometimes it can provide a preamble output file or script (like
machine name, system id, OS vendor and version, and so on).  When the user
enters a login id, it passes control on to the login program which provides
the "Password:" prompt and authenticates the user.  Then control passes on
to the user's startup shell program.

The port monitor is restarted when the last user shell dies, or the port
is reset, via a control file:  /etc/inittab for SVR3 & SVR4 & Linux systems
(I forget what it is for BSD-derived systems or HP-UX).  Look for the
keyword "respawn" in the startup control file.

Note that the port monitor has to set the serial port settings.  For SVR4
based systems, this is specified as arguments to the "ttymon" command for
that port, for most other UNIX systems as arguments to the "getty" program,
both sequencing through a "/etc/gettydefs" file.  I know that BSD-derived
systems used "/etc/ttys" to specify what /etc/gettydefs entry to start with.
Gettydefs entries can refer back to themselves (for fixed-baud-rate ports),
or refer to the next speed slower in a "hunt group" that would try different
port settings until your terminal responded correctly.

I cross-posted to a couple of the above mentioned newsgroups, and set all
followups to the first.  I would look there for further details and answers.

--
Scott G. Hall                   General Dynamics Communication Systems
ph: 919-549-1189                North Carolina Systems Center
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]     Research Triangle Park, NC   USA

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can Linux do this?  KIOSKS - Lite Linux desktop? Lock-down configs?
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:04:44 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tim Palmer wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:00:25 -0400, Flacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
> >
> >Can Linux do this?
> >
> >We would like to put some "obsolete" hardware to use as web browser kiosks.
> >We have Win95 and IE installed on them now, but I though I'd give Linux a
> >try.
> 
> Your better off sticking with Win.

You mis-spelled "lose"

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

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