Linux-Hardware Digest #195, Volume #13 Fri, 7 Jul 00 20:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: Integrated motherboard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: IBM PC Server 300? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Weird corruption problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Problems whit UltraDMA66 ("Luke")
REPOST: Shared RAID for mail/web server + load balancer? How do I do that? (Bert
[reposted because of HipClone cancel])
Re: Creative Soundblaster PCI128 (sandrews)
Re: Adding HD - copying linux over to new (Yves Bellefeuille)
Kernel Panic: Promise Ultra66 and Sound Blaster Live! Value (Edward J. Smiley Jr.)
Re: shutdown...? (Bit Twister)
Remove interface? ("Devon Harding")
Re: Kernel Panic: Promise Ultra66 and Sound Blaster Live! Value ("Anthony Cheng")
Re: kudzu,pcmcia and sound (Edward A. Falk)
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Subject: Re: Integrated motherboard
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 22:32:31 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) writes:
> On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:31:16 +0800, Michael J. Leaver
> <<8k3ths$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >Does anyone know of a motherboard that has built-in graphics & sound
> >(and maybe even a modem and/or NIC) and FULLY works with Linux?
>
> You don't really want such a beast. Motherboards with everything
> integrated are often low-quality, and of course it's practically
> impossible to upgrade the video card.
Huh?
My previous motherboard had onboard everything, and I replaced all of
it with expansion cards. There were no problems, under any of the
various operating systems I had installed.
> If this is a price thing, you can pick up a Super 7 board, an ATi
> Xpert98, and an Ensoniq AudioPCI for fairly cheap.
Well... when I was shopping for my motherboard, the bare-bones
versions ran about $220. Mine, which had onboard SCSI and ethernet,
was $300. The cost of a comparable SCSI card (an AHA-2940UW) was,
IIRC, at least $150. The cost of a comparable ethernet card was at
least $70. That's nearly $450 for the whole set if I'd bought it
piecemeal, and I'd come out two PCI slots short of where I am now.
The other factor to consider is that it's extremely difficult to find
high-end motherboards with nothing integrated.
> The boards in the Dell Optiplex GX-1 have ATi Mach64 graphics chips,
> CS4232 sound, and a 3Com905B on the motherboard, and everything's
> supported under Linux. Can't remember the exact motherboard name, though.
As far as video goes, most of it's supported. Stick with a name brand
as you can - ATI or S3 are the two big ones, I think. Crystal Semi
and ESS chips seem to have pretty good support under Linux, although
I've never used either there. Anything by 3Com will be supported, and
I've had good luck with Intel NICs. Adaptec and "Intel" (the actual
maker of Intel SCSI chips varies) SCSI controllers have pretty good
support, except, apparently, for RAID.
I know nothing about UDMA/66 or whatever it is, because all drives
should operate using the One True Interface, SCSI.
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Eric P. McCoy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
"Dude... my hands are huge. They can touch anything but themselves...
oh, wait."
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Subject: Re: IBM PC Server 300?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 22:35:20 GMT
"Bill Crocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I recently acquired an IBM PC Server 300, that I want to use as a platform
> to learn Linux.
> Intel Pentium 60
This will be really slow, so you might want to stick to the command
line. (Which is the part of Linux you should learn first, as it's the
most powerful and basic.)
> 32-MEG
> 1- SCSI Hard Drive, 1-GIG
> 6- SCSI CD-ROM Drives
Are these in a jukebox, or separate drives?
If they all have the same SCSI ID but different LUNs, you might need
to recompile the kernel and enable the "probe all SCSI LUNs" option,
or only one of them will be recognized.
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Eric P. McCoy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
"Dude... my hands are huge. They can touch anything but themselves...
oh, wait."
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
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Subject: Re: Weird corruption problems
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 22:40:22 GMT
On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Ross Vandegrift wrote:
>Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:04:05 -0400
>From: Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.networking, comp.os.linux.hardware
>Subject: Re: Weird corruption problems
>
>> I'd be looking at the disk subsystem. What controllers are you using? Sounds
>> to me like they maybe going bad. Anything in the log files? I've heard of
>> cases where extremely busy scsi buses can corrupt data, might that be the
>> case here? Give us some more details about the hardware involved.
>
>Hmm, that's something along the lines of what I was thinking too. We use
>all IDE controllers on the server - This one has four hard drives,
>hd[abcd]. They're all Western Digital 13G UDMA 33 drives. The
>motherboard is ASUS, IDE controllers are Intel PIIX4. hda4 is the root
>partition, hd[bc]1 are RAID1'ed together, hdd2 is a seperate disk for
>shell users' home directories. I can't imagine it has to do with the
>harddisks failing, since IDE drives do sector relocation automatically.
I tend to agree with you that the drives are not at fault, but WD does have a
tool, that can run in non destructive mode, that you can use to test each
drive. Depends how much time you have, and how desperate you are.
>Is there a chance it has to do with noise on the bus? Also, the location
>isn't known for having a particulary good electricity supply (it was as
>low as 90VAC once). I've seen this corruption happen on both /dev/hda4
>and /dev/md0, so I doubt it's a bug in the RAID code. (which, btw is
>kernel 2.2.11 with raid0145 patch)
I'm shooting at the power or lack thereof. Get a UPS NOW!! That will at
least prevent future power problems from affecting you. Since you have a T1,
I'm assuming you can afford to purchase a UPS, I think you can get them for
less than $100 now.
As to what part(s) the lack of power may have damaged, it will be a process of
elimination to figure it out. I had a power supply go whacy because of power
problems, it would cause my workstation to reboot at intermittent
intervals. That was extremely annoying. ;-) Coincidently a Cyrix system.
You've seen data corruption on both / and the raid. What level of raid? I'm
assuming one. You'll have to weigh the time vs. money factors but I think I'd
start with a new motherboard and perform the non destructive disk tests. If
you still see problems then examine disk cables, power supply. You might want
to replace the power supply along with the motherboard. If the power supply
is in fact bad, it might damage the new motherboard.
You could also examine the bug reports (if they exist) for the motherboard and
bios, you might find something, probably not though.
Summary
o - UPS
o - disk diag tests
o - new power supply & new mother board
>The server is a Cyrix 6x86MX 150, 64M of RAM, 128M of swap (swap is on
>hdd1). Network card is a 3Com 3C509B, video is a Bob's Generic Brand ISA
>VGA card... It's probably a trident 1 megger or something old like that.
It must be Bob's Generic ISA VGA. ;)
If I can help further let me know, I'd like to know the root problem, if you
determine it.
Regards,
Chad
>
>Thanks,
>Ross
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Ross Vandegrift wrote:
>>
>> >Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:49:38 -0400
>> >From: Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.networking, comp.os.linux.hardware
>> >Subject: Weird corruption problems
>> >
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> > I've had a server running on a dedicated T1 for a long time and
>> >have had relatively few problems with it. It cooks along providing me
>> >nice bandwidth and responsive service. However, it has recently become
>> >plagued with a bizarre corruption problem.
>> >
>> > I first noticed it while uploading some scripts from other Debian
>> >boxen. The script would run fine on the local machines, and when FTPed to
>> >any other Debian box on the network. However, when FTPed to the remote
>> >one, the resulting file would be chock full o' errors. Weird stuff -
>> >sometimes a whole line would be left out of the middle, sometimes a few
>> >characters, and sometimes control characters would show up. I just redid
>> >the upload and it was fine again.
>> >
>> > I noticed it a second time when I recieved a "CRC error" report
>> >about my release 3 SlackReiser boot disk from an extremely helpful
>> >gentleman trying my software. He determined that the image on the remote
>> >machine was corrupt, and I have verified this fact. Hmm, now I realize
>> >something is fishy.
>> >
>> > Today I got a call from a business associate who uses this remote
>> >server for email, saying he couldn't relay mail from his new domain, could
>> >I add his new domain to our realy-domains file. I said sure, and opened
>> >it up. Much to my surprise, one of the characters in the file had been
>> >replaced with a control character. I fixed the error, but now I'm really
>> >scared about the rest of the data. What can I do to guarentee that it's
>> >all there and correct? What on earth could be causing such a bizarre
>> >problem? Situation 1 and 2 point to communication problems, but number 3
>> >involves the relay-domains file - it hasn't been sent over FTP ever -
>> >seems to say that it's a filesystem/hardware problem. Where should I
>> >start looking?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> > Ross Vandegrift
>> > Seitz Technical Products Inc
>> >
>> >
>>
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From: "Luke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems whit UltraDMA66
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 22:47:16 GMT
I have a RedHat 5.2 version and a UltraDMA66 interface but Linux is not able
to recognize it and then the hard-disk
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From: Bert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [reposted because of HipClone cancel]
Subject: REPOST: Shared RAID for mail/web server + load balancer? How do I do that?
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.mail.sendmail
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 17:52:39 +0800
Hi!
I need to set up a mail /web server at where I'm working, and after
thinking about it for a while, I thought it better to have a fault
tolerant set up. I sort of managed to determine what bits & pieces I'd
required... but putting it together is entirely another matter!!
I'd appreciate any help, pointers, advice, resources anyone could point
me towards.
The basic stuff are:
2 linux boxes, built-in dual channel SCSI RAID
1 load balancer
1 external RAID
RH Linux 6.2
(Mix well....ugghh)
What i need to do is to have the 2 Linux boxes to be identical, these 2
boxes access 1 set of data on the external raid. ie, there should be
only 1 set of mail app, mailboxes etc.
So these 2 boxes need to have their own OS? Can they share data?
A load balancer will determine which box gets the job etc. for a fault
tolerant setup.
How can I put everything together? Are there any extra special bits that
I require?
Is there a better way of doing this? ie, sharing data on 1 RAID
subsystem is a no-no?
Thanks in advance for your help!!
Bert
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Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 18:55:06 -0400
From: sandrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Creative Soundblaster PCI128
"moonie;)" wrote:
>
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, sandrews wrote:
> >"moonie;)" wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Klaus Syttkus wrote:
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >a hint: There seem to be two flavours of PCI128 out there. One uses a
> >> >es1370, the other one es1371.
> >> >Have you used lspci?
> >> >
> >> >Good luck,
> >> >
> >> >Klaus.
> >>
> >> I have found that people with the es1370 tend to have no problem at all. The
> >> ones with es1371 tend to have trouble. My PCI128 was an early one and is
> >> es1370 and has always worked perfectly. Not trying to dissuade you just
> >> letting you know that if it is an es1371 you may not be able to get it working.
> >> --
> >> moonie ;)
> >>
> >
> >I have an es1373 late model card that didn`t work without the OSS
> >drivers.
> >The card will now work with RH 6.2 and Suse 6.4. From what I understand
> >the
> >es1371.o module has been changed to accommandate the later cards.
> >From SuSe conf.modules:
> >
> >#alias char-major-14 off
> >#alias sound off
> >#alias midi off
> >
> >then
> >
> >###############################################################################
> ># module : es1371.o Creative Ensoniq 1371 Chipsatz (-->
> >PCI64/128)
> >#
> ># Supported cards :
> >#
> ># Creative Labs PCI64/128
> >#
> ># Documentation availabke at
> >/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/es1371 and
> ># /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound/es1371.c .
> >#
> >alias char-major-14
> >es1371 options es1371 joystick=0x200
> >###############################################################################
> >
> >Makes mine work.
>
> With your permision (hopefully) I will save this and use it when this question
> comes around again. For all those who couldn't get theirs to work I thank you.
> --
> moonie ;)
>
By All means PLEASE DO!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yves Bellefeuille)
Subject: Re: Adding HD - copying linux over to new
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 19:08:00 -0400
Reply-To: Yves Bellefeuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, Jeffrey M Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've seen a written document covering this type of operation before but
> for the life of me I can't seem to locate it now. Assistance would be
> greatly appreciated.
Have a look at the Hard Disk Upgrade Mini How-To:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html
(HTML version)
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade
(plain text)
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From: Edward J. Smiley Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Kernel Panic: Promise Ultra66 and Sound Blaster Live! Value
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 23:01:12 GMT
I just installed 7.1 with a Promise Ultra66 and it works great. I
bought a SB Live! Value (2nd Version) and put it in the slot. I get a
kernel panic that says:
Kmod: Failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k blobk-major-33, errno = 2
VFS: Cannot open root device 21:05
Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 21:05
When I take the SB out, it boots fine. I thought maybe that the card
was blocking the Promise card, but the IRQ for the promise is 9 and the
SB is 11. I am just lost. Here is what I have on my system:
PCI IRQ (from bootup) IRQ (from Linux)
Viper V550 11 not listed
Adaptec 2940AU 10 10
Promise Ultra66 9 9
NE2000 ethernet card 9 not listed
SB Live! Value (just added) 11 ?
ISA
Intel Ethernet express 5 ?
I am lost! I want to use the Promise Ultra66, and I would like to use
the SB Live! Value. Can anyone help me?
FYI
System Info:
Abit BH6
256MB RAM
Celeron 333
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: shutdown...?
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 23:27:37 GMT
The problem is between the keyboard and the chair :)
Have you tried man shutdown
and read the last line of this reply.
On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:53:12 +0200, emwafol
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a problem with 'shutdown' on my RedHat 6.0-computer.
>When i run shutdown -h now
>the computer acts like i run shutdown -r now. That is, it restarts
>instead of shuting down.
>Whay might be the reason for this?
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From: "Devon Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Remove interface?
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:30:58 -0400
How can I remove my interface (eth1) clean, and reinstall it so it comes up
on boot? The system as two interfaces, eth0 is a ne2000 compatable and eth1
is a 3Com 3c509b.
-Devon
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From: "Anthony Cheng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic: Promise Ultra66 and Sound Blaster Live! Value
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:41:51 +0800
I also got the same error message when I upgrade my graphics card. However,
the problem can be easily solved. Reboot the computer with the installation
disk. When asked for installation method, just choose "Upgrade" (Using this
method will not destroy any data already in the partition). The purpose of
this is to force Mandrake to detect the cards and reinstall the bootloader.
Reboot the machine and you will get your Mandrake 7.1 running with your new
sound card.
Hope this helps!
Edward J. Smiley Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8k5nfj$b4v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just installed 7.1 with a Promise Ultra66 and it works great. I
> bought a SB Live! Value (2nd Version) and put it in the slot. I get a
> kernel panic that says:
>
> Kmod: Failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k blobk-major-33, errno = 2
> VFS: Cannot open root device 21:05
> Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 21:05
>
> When I take the SB out, it boots fine. I thought maybe that the card
> was blocking the Promise card, but the IRQ for the promise is 9 and the
> SB is 11. I am just lost. Here is what I have on my system:
>
> PCI IRQ (from bootup) IRQ (from Linux)
> Viper V550 11 not listed
> Adaptec 2940AU 10 10
> Promise Ultra66 9 9
> NE2000 ethernet card 9 not listed
> SB Live! Value (just added) 11 ?
>
> ISA
> Intel Ethernet express 5 ?
>
> I am lost! I want to use the Promise Ultra66, and I would like to use
> the SB Live! Value. Can anyone help me?
>
>
> FYI
> System Info:
> Abit BH6
> 256MB RAM
> Celeron 333
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> Ed Smiley
>
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
> Ed Smiley
>
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>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward A. Falk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: kudzu,pcmcia and sound
Date: 7 Jul 2000 23:51:51 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Darren Christie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>What kind of hardware are you adding inside of a laptop? Kudzu is not
>going to pay any attention to pcmcia.
Kudzu recognized & configured my modem on first boot, but now I see
no reason to leave it turned on.
What's the "proper" way to disable an rc script? I usually rename
the file from "S99xxx" to "s99xxx", but I don't know if there's
a better way.
Also, am I the only one who thinks that "kudzu" is a stupid name
for a piece of system software? I prefer names that *mean* something,
rather than having to read the source just to figure out WTF this
does.
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