Linux-Hardware Digest #335, Volume #13            Tue, 1 Aug 00 03:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Slackware news.groups? ("J. Escalante")
  getting dsl, what h/w should i get? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: getting dsl, what h/w should i get? (Hal Burgiss)
  Plug and Play Question ("J. Escalante")
  Re: Good cheap modem for linux (Rod Haper)
  Re: SCSI-controller in Linux (Bartek Kostrzewa)
  Re: Why is Athon 650 slower than P-II/400? (Bartek Kostrzewa)
  Re: ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0x80 ("Michael Westerman")
  Re: Why is Athon 650 slower than P-II/400? (Bartek Kostrzewa)
  Re: Plug and Play Question (Rod Haper)
  Re: Good cheap modem for linux (Rod Haper)
  Re: Solved? (was: Asus P2B-D, dual PIII-650MHz, SMP not working right) (matt kracht)
  Re: getting dsl, what h/w should i get? (Michael Meissner)
  DMA problems (Ron Keller)
  Re: getting dsl, what h/w should i get? (Ray Tayek)
  Re: Building a Linux Server from scratch:  Experiences? (John Broadhead)
  Re: SBLIVE can't record from SPDIF in ("Daniel Bertrand")
  Make $1,000 bucks a day (Ken McVay)

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From: "J. Escalante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Slackware news.groups?
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 03:16:34 GMT

Do you know if there are any Slackware news groups?
Thanks in advance


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: getting dsl, what h/w should i get?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:42:39 -0700



hi, hope to get dsl rsn. i have a 120mhz cyrix 686 pr150 with 96 mb and a 
350 mhz amd k6-2 with 64 mb. both have various nic's, cd's and modems. i 
could buy a new system (i have about $700).

what hardware combinations should i prefer or avoid?

fry's usually has something with linux installed? is this any good?

eventually, i want to run a web server and anonymous remailer and ftp.

thanks
-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: getting dsl, what h/w should i get?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:07:26 GMT

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:42:39 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>hi, hope to get dsl rsn. i have a 120mhz cyrix 686 pr150 with 96 mb and a 
>350 mhz amd k6-2 with 64 mb. both have various nic's, cd's and modems. i 
>could buy a new system (i have about $700).
>
>what hardware combinations should i prefer or avoid?
>
>fry's usually has something with linux installed? is this any good?
>
>eventually, i want to run a web server and anonymous remailer and ftp.

I think you are asking the wrong question. Or at least asking the wrong
way. Any of those systems should work -- with the right DSL modem. Make
it ethernet interfaced. If you want a new system, buy it, but not
because you need it for DSL.

-- 
Hal B
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--

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From: "J. Escalante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Plug and Play Question
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:49:25 GMT

I have, FINALLY, configure my modem, is a US Robotics pnp using port: 
0x2EB and IRQ: 3.
However, using kppp I tryed all the ttySx but non of them worked. How do 
I connect the modem to one of the ports?

Thanks in advance.


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From: Rod Haper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good cheap modem for linux
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 05:01:37 GMT

I have the Jaton Communicator V.90 working very nicely under RHL 6.2 in an ABIT 
KA7-100 motherboard with an AMD-750 .  It is a 16-bit ISA card with a real 
16C550A/16C450 register compatible UART so it will work right out of the box with the 
standard Linux serial port drivers.  It has jumpers for I/O com port and IRQ select or 
PNP.  It's got every bell and whistle you could want (V.everything, fax, voicemail, 
speakerphone, caller ID, AT command set, etc.).  I paid $49.99 at a local dealer.  
Here's the URL for the Jaton web page describing the modem:

http://www.jaton.com/Newsite/Modem_Device/ISA_Modem/isa_modem.html




Chris wrote:
> 
> I am currently looking for a good cheap modem for linux. I was looking at
> the Creative Labs Flash 56k, model DI5602, which is an ISA hardware based
> modem that I saw being sold online for <$30. However, the linux modem
> compatibility database only lists model 5601, Creative Labs Flash II 56k
> (the DI5601 is a newer model than the DI5602), as being linux compatible.
> Does anyone have any experience with that particular modem? If not, can you
> suggest a linux compatible modem that is less than $40?
> 
> Thanks

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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 07:16:34 +0200
From: Bartek Kostrzewa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI-controller in Linux

"Lawrence C. W. Tai" wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> Which SCSI-card is the most stable in Linux? Can I use adaptec 29160 in

Yep, works fine for me.

> Linux?
> 
> Thanks.

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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 07:22:51 +0200
From: Bartek Kostrzewa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why is Athon 650 slower than P-II/400?

root wrote:
> 
> 
> 2) Boot-up RAID 5 test:
> P-II:
> 
> raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines
>     pII_mmx   :   872.871 MB/sec
>     p5_mmx    :   925.068 MB/sec
>     8regs     :   689.229 MB/sec
>     32regs    :   377.571 MB/sec
> using fastest function: p5_mmx (925.068 MB/sec)
> 
> Athon:
> 
> raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines
>     pII_mmx   :    74.676 MB/sec
>     p5_mmx    :    72.771 MB/sec
>     8regs     :    91.821 MB/sec
>     32regs    :    37.719 MB/sec
> using fastest function: 8regs (91.821 MB/sec)
> 

That's strange, my Athlon T-Bird 750 does a bumby 2640 on the p5
engine....  My old P2-400 sitting next to it does 1021 with the p5
engine.... (although it runs at 448)

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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0x80
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:22:51 +1000

happened to me just before the second ide drive failed  (same channel)

but more likly it was a ne2100 using the same io port as my ide card.

so check that out to.


Mat Kelcey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> something very similiar to me happened on my oldest drive causes it had
> a heap of corrupted sectors. a forced full check of the partitions
> located the bad blocks or whatever and removed them.
>
> is the drive old? run the fullest check you can over it, maybe something
> will turn up?
>
> good luck anyways.
> mat
>
> Yumin Lee wrote:
>
> > I have a desktop Pentium III running
> > Redhat 6.2.  Recently the machine hangs
> > after idling for 5 or 6 hours, with the
> > following error messages that repeat
> > ad infinitum:
> >
> > ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0x80, count=xxxx
> > ide0: reset timed-out, status=0x80
> > hda:status timeout, status=0x80 { Busy }
> > end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda), sector 2097184
> > hda: drive not ready for command
> > EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,1)): ext2_write_inode: untable to read
> > inode block
> > - inode=123913, block=262148
> > hda: status timeout, status=0x80 { Busy }
> > hda: drive not ready for command
> >
> > I have a Seagate ST38410A (UDMA 66, 8623 MB)
> > HD.  Also, I tried disabling the power
> > management functions in the bios, but that
> > didn't help the problem.
> >
> > Any ideas?  Any help will be greatly appreciated ...
> >
> > Yumin Lee
> > My e-mail is  yuminlee -at- cc -dot- ee -dot- ntu -dot- edu -dot- tw
>



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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 07:24:59 +0200
From: Bartek Kostrzewa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why is Athon 650 slower than P-II/400?

Marcus Lauer wrote:
> 
> 
>         I get about 65MB/s with my Super-7 system, compared to his 45.  The
> Athlon should at least be much faster than this, for various reasons
> (double-pumped memory, faster cache, superior chipset in memory performance in
> general...)
> 
>                                                         Marcus

I get 40 with my 10000 rpm SCSI disk, but that's a realistic number (it
really shows the performance) unlike IDE numbers that only show bus
transfer rates.

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From: Rod Haper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plug and Play Question
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 05:25:07 GMT

Are you sure that the io_port address is 0x2eb?  The standard io_port and irq for 
/dev/ttyS3 (DOS COM4) is 0x2e8 and 3.  If the io_port really is 0x2eb, you wil need to 
use the setserial utility to set the io_port and irq.  Try this "setserial /dev/ttyS3 
port 0x2eb irq 3" which you can put in your /etc/rc.local file so it wil get done when 
you boot.  If the modem is set to port 0x2e8 and irq 3, it should be recognized as 
/dev/ttyS3 without any configuration.  What serial devices and parameters does the 
file /var/log/dmesg show that the kernel detected during the boot procedure?  Also 
check the pseudo-file /proc/ioports to see what the running kernel has for serial port 
address.


"J. Escalante" wrote:
> 
> I have, FINALLY, configure my modem, is a US Robotics pnp using port:
> 0x2EB and IRQ: 3.
> However, using kppp I tryed all the ttySx but non of them worked. How do
> I connect the modem to one of the ports?
> 
> Thanks in advance.

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From: Rod Haper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good cheap modem for linux
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 05:30:24 GMT

Seems I lost the last part of the URL below.  Here's the full URL for the Jaton 
Communicator V.90 description:

http://www.jaton.com/Newsite/Modem_Device/ISA_Modem/Communicator_V90/communicator_v90.htm


Rod Haper wrote:
> 
> I have the Jaton Communicator V.90 working very nicely under RHL 6.2 in
> an ABIT KA7-100 motherboard with an AMD-750 .  It is a 16-bit ISA card
> with a real 16C550A/16C450 register compatible UART so it will work right
> out of the box with the standard Linux serial port drivers.  It has
> jumpers for I/O com port and IRQ select or PNP.  It's got every bell and
> whistle you could want (V.everything, fax, voicemail, speakerphone,
> caller ID, AT command set, etc.).  I paid $49.99 at a local dealer.
> Here's the URL for the Jaton web page describing the modem:
> 
> http://www.jaton.com/Newsite/Modem_Device/ISA_Modem/isa_modem.html
> 
> Chris wrote:
> >
> > I am currently looking for a good cheap modem for linux. I was looking at
> > the Creative Labs Flash 56k, model DI5602, which is an ISA hardware based
> > modem that I saw being sold online for <$30. However, the linux modem
> > compatibility database only lists model 5601, Creative Labs Flash II 56k
> > (the DI5601 is a newer model than the DI5602), as being linux compatible.
> > Does anyone have any experience with that particular modem? If not, can you
> > suggest a linux compatible modem that is less than $40?
> >
> > Thanks

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (matt kracht)
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.hardware
Subject: Re: Solved? (was: Asus P2B-D, dual PIII-650MHz, SMP not working right)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 05:46:51 GMT

On 17 Jul 2000 22:46:16 GMT, Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>its worth noting that SMP on the bx chipset is VERY unstable at close
>to 100% saturation on two cpus.  this is known even though intel won't
>admit it.

I know this message is two weeks old, but this really caught my attention.
The BX chipset is not unstable at all.  I've been using an Asus P2B-D for
the past nine or ten months now, and it has never once been flakey.  We're
talking about compiling the development Linux kernel (a massive compilation
if there ever was one) with a multi-threaded make, running a multi-threaded
distributed.net client, running Netscape Communicator under X, *and*
accepting network connections over TCP/IP.  Can you possibly think of a
situation that would stress my machine any more?  By the way, this is all on
dual Pentium III 450s, a Tekram U2W SCSI card, and six U2W SCSI drives
(plus miscellaneous other drives, including two EIDEs and the odd narrow,
wide, or ultra wide Seagate Barracuda).  Did I mention that I've run all six
U2W drives in a software RAID array, just for kicks?

Tell me again how the BX chipset is unreliable.  Please.

>morale: don't run 2 cpu's at full load for extended periods of time.
>AND see if you can cool the bx chip better than with that flimsy
>'green' heatsink that usually comes with the bx boards.

My chipset has no heatsink.  My first CPU is OEM, with a cheap heatsink/fan
combo, the second is retail with the standard heatsink/fan.  I bought them
around the same time, so the stepping might very well match.  My case is
an Inwin Q500 with a no-name 250W power supply/fan, plus two extra fans.
Many of the SCSI peripherals are external, though I do have two 10K RPM
SCSI hard drives in the case.

>(I won't run smp on bx for mission critical systems.  gx is more
>reliable as are other chipsets; its the consumer-oriented bx that just
>falls down under heavy (VERY heavy) load)

There's nothing special about the GX chipset.  Intel won't admit anything
only because there's nothing to admit.  BX is not consumer-oriented, either.
ZX and i810(e) are consumer oriented.  BX is high performance, entry-level
workstation.

Geez.  You must have bought a cheap motherboard.  I can't imagine my
motherboard ever causing a problem - even when I boot up NT4 and play 3D
games while I leave Netscape up and running.  Anything that can keep NT4
from blue-screening is rock solid, in my book.

If the P2B-D has one problem, it is the lack of proper Coppermine support
for board revisions previous to 1.06 DO3.  And that problem wouldn't go away
if it used the GX chipset.

Anyways, if there's someone having trouble with his P2B-D(S) under NT4 or
Linux, you can try sending me some e-mail.  I'll try to help.  Can't help
with Coppermine support, though; I haven't upgraded my CPUs yet.

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Subject: Re: getting dsl, what h/w should i get?
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 01 Aug 2000 01:50:08 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:

> hi, hope to get dsl rsn. i have a 120mhz cyrix 686 pr150 with 96 mb and a 
> 350 mhz amd k6-2 with 64 mb. both have various nic's, cd's and modems. i 
> could buy a new system (i have about $700).
> 
> what hardware combinations should i prefer or avoid?

If one of the systems is going to be up all of the time running Linux (or gag,
Windows 98se2/Windows 2000) can have a 2nd NIC in it, you feel you can setup
the firewall/masquarading on the box, and your DSL provider uses an ethernet
based DSL connection, you probably don't need much of anything.

If you don't plan either of the systems to be online all of the time (or
running the same OS consistanly), then you might consider one of the cable
modem/ADSL firewall boxes that are available, such as offered by LinkSys (~100
for a firewall that plugs into your ethernet hub, ~180 for one that provides a
4 port ethernet switch as well as the firewall).  The hardware boxes can also
do PPPoE (ppp over ethernet), which is what many ISPs use instead of normal
ethernet (I don't recall if PPPoE support is yet integrated into the production
kernels and distributions, but patches do exist).  You could also do the same
setup with a Linux system with 2 NICs, a hub, and some setup.  If you feel up
to the setup, you might want to consider just spending your money on a new box
(probably without monitor to save $$$) to replace the cyrix, and using that as
your firewall/gateway.

Note, many DSL setups assume you have Windows 9x, so you may need to have them
set it up on a dual-OS machine.  The cable modem will be configured to talk to
a specific NIC, so you want that NIC in the box that the DSL company is running
the configuration stuff on (and possibly only one NIC at the time so as to not
confuse the poor software :-).

There are also companies that as a condition of service require that only one
computer be connected (obviously, you don't want to deal with them, but you
want to find out ahead of time).  I've even heard rumors of one outfit that if
your machine displays a LILO prompt, that they will refuse to install the
service (on the assumption you were going to make the Linux system a firewall
and router to connect other machines).

-- 
Michael Meissner, Red Hat, Inc.
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
Work:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]           phone: +1 978-486-9304
Non-work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   fax:   +1 978-692-4482

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From: Ron Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DMA problems
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 06:12:45 GMT

Hello, all

I am running RH6.1 (kernel 2.2.14)on an ASUS P5A-B M/B with 64 MB RAM
and an AMD K6-2/350 CPU; and I'm getting some strange messages on
boot-up as shown in a sample output from dmesg :

        PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device 78,                       
                 VID=10b9,
DID=5229
        PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
        PCI_IDE: simplex device:  DMA disabled
        ide0: PCI_IDE Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS)
        PCI_IDE: simplex device:  DMA disabled
        ide1: PCI_IDE Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS)
        hda: Maxtor 90845D4, ATA DISK drive


Since linux does boot and runs quit well on my machine, I didn't pay too
much attention to these messages.  However, I have been trying to get my
floppy tape drive to work and I haven't been successful.  Yet that same
floppy tape drive works flawlessly on a 486 machine.


In reading the documentation accompanying the floppy tape driver
(ftape), it is suggested that one reason for this could be that the DMA
controller isn't talking to the FDC.  Would this explain the messages
I'm getting on boot-up?  Is there a workaround?  Thanks in  advance for
your help

Ron Keller

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray Tayek)
Subject: Re: getting dsl, what h/w should i get?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:47:54 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:42:39 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >hi, hope to get dsl rsn. i have a 120mhz cyrix 686 pr150 with 96 mb and a 
> >350 mhz amd k6-2 with 64 mb. both have various nic's, cd's and modems. i 
> >could buy a new system (i have about $700).
> >... 
> I think you are asking the wrong question. Or at least asking the wrong
> way. Any of those systems should work ...

great!, i was more concerned with linux problems. my understanding was 
that there was a limited set of device drivers available and that not all 
hardware combinations would work on linux.

thanks
-- 
Ray (will hack java for food) http://home.pacbell.net/rtayek/
vice chair orange county java users group http://www.ocjug.org/
want privacy? http://www.freedom.net/
hate spam? http://samspade.org/ssw/

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From: John Broadhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Building a Linux Server from scratch:  Experiences?
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:33:13 -0600

> ' Actually don't get mad about this if it's a UDMA-66 cable. For some
> ' strange reason that's how they're supposed to be.
> 
> You're kidding me!  Aren't you?  The replacement cables that I bought
> did not have such a cut.  Or is the cut done differently?
> 

No, really I'm serious. There are two types of IDE cables. The original
40 conductor type, which are good up to UDMA-33, and the new 80
conductor, yet 40 pin ones. Don't ask me why it has 80 conductors if it
only has 40 pins, since I don't know.

I have one of each type of cables in my hand right now. The UDMA-66 has
much thinner conductors on it's ribbon section. There are also a total
of 80 of them. The UDMA-33 cable has thicker conductors and there are
only 40 of them. The shape and size of each plug on the cables is
identical, 40-pins with a key.

The UDMA-33 cable has continuous conductors, which run unbroken from one
end to the other. The UDMA-66 cable has conductor #67 (starting with 1
at the red wire) notched on the computer end. In other words, about 1/4
inch of the 67th wire is missing. This is the way every UDMA-66 cable I
have ever seen is made. I guess that the system uses it to detect
whether the cable is UDMA-33 or 66.

A UDMA-66 hard drive connected to a motherboard capable of UDMA-66 with
a UDMA-33 cable will only operate in UDMA-33 mode. So if you replacement
cable is the older 40 conductor type, I'd try getting your cut one back.

Someone need to make some sort of instruction book about this stuff. I
thought the exact same thing the first time I saw a UDMA-66 cable.

-John

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From: "Daniel Bertrand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SBLIVE can't record from SPDIF in
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 06:36:53 GMT

Hello,

Try playing with the digital mixer in /utils/dm/  included in the driver
tarball. I don't have/use the SPDIF so I don't know if it'll actually
work, but I do see it listed when I run dm. 


--
Daniel

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marc Remijn
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In installed the sblive in my system. 
> 
> Got the drivers from opensource.creative.com.
> 
> Compiled and installed the without any hassle.
> 
> Jul 30 23:31:38 mirage kernel: Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver,
> version 0.6, 22:50:19 Jul 30 2000 Jul 30 23:31:38 mirage kernel:
> emu10k1: EMU10K1 rev 7 model 0x8040 found, IO at
> 0xd400-0xd41f, IRQ 9     
> 
> Everything works fine. Recording / Playback from all sources. Except for
> one, that is the SPDIF in. I can playback, but I cannot record from it.
> The kmix program from kde doesn't allow me to set the spdif slider as
> 'RecSource'.
> 
> I can record from spdif in MS-Windows, so it is supported by the
> hardware.
> 
> How do I do this in Linux???
> 
> Marc

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From: Ken McVay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Make $1,000 bucks a day
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 07:04:36 GMT

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