Linux-Hardware Digest #560, Volume #13           Mon, 11 Sep 00 17:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Memory questions, Device questions; Remove LILO on RH6.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Kernel question (The Drag)
  Re: US Robotics Performance Pro 56K PCI modem (Larry Krigbaum)
  promise controller ultra66 problems (Ken Siersma)
  Re: Memory questions, Device questions; Remove LILO on RH6.2 ("Simple Simon")
  Re: Ethernet Really Slow in Linux ("Doubt")
  High Speed Modem ("Vladimir Laserman")
  Re: Ethernet Really Slow in Linux (Scott Hemphill)
  Re: Should I upgrade my system or buy new? (Scott Alfter)
  Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse ("Richard.Petras")
  Request - RedHat 6.2 driver for Supermicro PIIIDM3 AC97 on-board audio ("Kenneth R. 
van Wyk")
  Logitech Optical Mouse (Trelin)
  Re: HP M820e CD-RW progress?? (Jonathan Buzzard)
  Re: Ethernet Really Slow in Linux ("Doubt")
  Re: ltmodem.o and Linux Kernel Versions > 2.2.14 (D G)
  MODEM ("Patricio M�tteri")

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Subject: Re: Memory questions, Device questions; Remove LILO on RH6.2
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11 Sep 2000 15:09:35 -0400

"Simple Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

> KDE on this computer is slower than my 486 running Win95 with 16meg
> of ram!!! Checking my memory usage in Linux shows that I have a
> whopping 13 meg of ram to work with, not the 192 meg I would
> expect. How can I speed up the computer? I assume that Linux is not
> seeing all 192 meg of ram that I have.

Check to make sure that you haven't got an option that looks like
"Memory hole at 15-16MB".  Linux expects RAM to be contiguous.

> Also, The MX300 soundcard is based on Aureal chips. Is there any way I can
> get this working in RH6.2?

Is it a Vortex or a Vortex 2?  OSS has a barely-usable V2 driver that
you have to pay money for.  Just buy a new sound card.

[...]
> Finally, I have the Windows 2000 boot menu choosing between Win2k and RH6.2.
> How can I get rid of the LILO prompt when I choose LINUX? Are there any
> reasons to keep LILO since the Win2k menu works? LILO is not on the MBR -
> it's at the beginning of the LINUX partition (hda2).

You have to keep LILO, or you won't be able to start Linux.  Do things
the way you probably are now, just set the timeout for LILO to zero.
(Actually, some very small, nonzero value might be better, so you can
interrupt and specify kernel options.)

-- 
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Drag)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Kernel question
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:15:50 GMT

Where does the server hang on bootup?  Are you able to complete the
boot process if you use the boot disk created during the install?

Have you considered creating a new ISO image with the 2.2.16-3 kernel?
You could also download a new ISO distro and burn it onto a cdrom.

Another option is setting up Redhat Kickstart with the distrubution on
another server.

A quick work-around is also possible with a boot disk to avoid the
RAID issue until you have the newer kernel installed.

If you don't have a cd burner, you could also do an install direct
from a drive partition by copying the distribution to a partition on
the target boot harddrive.

All of these options are explained on the Redhat Install Support
website.  Sometimes it helps to have someone tell you that other
options actually exist.


On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:40:12 +1000, Greg Goossens
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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>I have a question regarding a problem I have that I need to find a
>simple solution for I am hoping that someone has a neat workaround for
>this.
>
>I need to setup an IBM Netfinity 6000 with Redhat 6.2 but the kernel in
>the ISO image I have is a 2.2.14 kernel and the only kernel that
>supports the RAID adapter is a 2.2.16-3 kernel.   I can install redhat
>using the device driver provided from IBM but when I reboot after the
>initial install the system hangs.  As I have said IBM say I need the
>2.2.16-3 kernel.
>
>Is the solution as simple as getting another release of redhat that has
>the correct kernel in the original install (if possible ) or do I have
>to build a redhat install on another disk upgrade that kernel and
>somehow move the entire load to another disk using dd of a similar util.
>
>
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From: Larry Krigbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: US Robotics Performance Pro 56K PCI modem
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:21:47 -0500



Bill Jones wrote:

> US Robotics says this modem will work with DOS or linux.  Can anyone verify?
>
> Thanks,

    3Com told me that it only works with 2.3 or newer kernel.




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From: Ken Siersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: promise controller ultra66 problems
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:23:34 +0000

Hello,
I'm trying to setup a dual processor system with an ultra66 promise
controller.  A friend of mine told me I had to put the controller in one
of the slots, boot into my RedHat linux 6.1 installation disk, and
select another terminal to look at /proc/pci.  What I get for the
promise controller section is this:

Medium devsel.  IRQ 11.  Master Capable.  Latency=64.
I/O at 0xeff0 [0xeff1].
I/O at 0xefe4 [0xefe5].
I/O at 0xefa8 [0xefa9].
I/O at 0xefe0 [0xefe1].
I/O at 0xef00 [0xef01].

I'm new at this, and he told me to use the RedHat 6.2 bootnet.img (with
promise controller support) and to enter

text ide2=0xeff0,0xefe4

at the boot prompt, taking the addresses from the first two entries
above.  I've done this, but whenever I try to boot (with my freshly made
boot disk) after the install is finished, I get a kernel panic, can't
mount root.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ken


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From: "Simple Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory questions, Device questions; Remove LILO on RH6.2
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:46:09 GMT

Hi!

<snip>
> > ... How can I speed up the computer? I assume that Linux is not
> > seeing all 192 meg of ram that I have.
>
> Check to make sure that you haven't got an option that looks like
> "Memory hole at 15-16MB".  Linux expects RAM to be contiguous.

Thanks. I'll triple check, but I never set this option. I'm assuming that
you're referring to the CMOS settings in the BIOS here, not some Linux
config file.

> > Also, The MX300 soundcard is based on Aureal chips. Is there any way I
can
> > get this working in RH6.2?
>
> Is it a Vortex or a Vortex 2?  OSS has a barely-usable V2 driver that
> you have to pay money for.  Just buy a new sound card.

Vortex 2, I think. Like I said before Diamond has the crappiest support of
all companies I've ever seen, followed closely by Logitech. Any suggestions
for soundcards? I've got some ISA cards kicking around here. No sense
keeping the MX300 if niether OS can make use of it's features.

> You have to keep LILO, or you won't be able to start Linux.  Do things
> the way you probably are now, just set the timeout for LILO to zero.
> (Actually, some very small, nonzero value might be better, so you can
> interrupt and specify kernel options.)

Very good advice! Just the kind of stuff I'm looking to learn.

Thanks muchly for your input. It's appreciated!

SS



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From: "Doubt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ethernet Really Slow in Linux
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:50:59 -0500

Okay, I did more extensive testing last night, and as I scanned several
webpages I came across something about downloading (FTP) a file twice would
put it in the cache, and then a second download would show higher speeds.  I
tested this (after taking the webpage for granted at first) and got 9meg/s
download on the second run (still only 2meg/s the first run).  This is
tested on a 15meg file, not the biggest file to test, but still should be
alot faster than 2megs.  This leads me to believe that it must be the way
Linux is handleing the file system calls, or the like.  Can this be
optimized?  I always put Linux way above anything microsoft in the OS realm,
and I'm sure there's a fix for this.  The processor of the Linux box is a
300mhz K6-2.  I watched the CPU load during transfer and it did get up to
50%ish, but thats not bottleneck speeds.  So I think my original assumption
was inocorrect, not the ethernet card itself, but the filesystem.  Also, I
have only tested downloading from Linux=>windows .. was more assuming upload
would be the same, but in the light of what I have learned recently, that
could be false also.  Thanks for any help.

Doubt

Steve Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ed1v5.14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Okay, I've noticed a large bottleneck on my linux box; I have a Linux
box
> > with a 3com 100/10mbit card connected to a D-Link 100mbit switch.  Three
> > computers are connected to this switch, the Linux Box, and two winblows
> > boxes.  Transfer rates from Linux Box <=> Winblows boxes tops out at
> > transfer rates of 2meg/s ... transfer rates from Winblows <=> Winblows
> tops
> > out at about 7meg/s.  Why are my transfer rates terribly slow from the
> Linux
> > box.  All three machines share same type of setups, 3com 3c509 cards.  I
> > should get 7meg/s from the Linux box just like between the windows
> machines.
> > I thought maybe kernel server optimization would help, I have not done
> this
> > yet, but I'm skeptical, not that the windows TCP/IP stack is all that
> > optimized and blowing away the Linux machine.  How would I go about
fixing
> > this?  Ideas what is wrong, or how I can go about finding out how to fix
> > this?  Thanks alot.
>
>   Give us more details.  What are you using to transfer data, what kind of
> CPU's do the machines have, and do you *really* mean <=>  (i.e., you've
> tested both ways)?
>
>  steve
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------
> Domain for replies is "codon"
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
>



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From: "Vladimir Laserman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: High Speed Modem
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:58:10 GMT

How can I configure my high speed modem in linux?
I live in Canada, and have Sympatico High Speed Modem Edition (DSL), it's
include High speed modem and Ethernet Network card. High speed modem
connected to phone line and to Ethernet card. I don't know how to connect to
the Internet by using this hardware in Linux, please HELP !!!



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Subject: Re: Ethernet Really Slow in Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Scott Hemphill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Sep 2000 16:04:06 -0400

"Doubt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Okay, I did more extensive testing last night, and as I scanned several
> webpages I came across something about downloading (FTP) a file twice would
> put it in the cache, and then a second download would show higher speeds.  I
> tested this (after taking the webpage for granted at first) and got 9meg/s
> download on the second run (still only 2meg/s the first run).  This is
> tested on a 15meg file, not the biggest file to test, but still should be
> alot faster than 2megs.  This leads me to believe that it must be the way
> Linux is handleing the file system calls, or the like.  Can this be
> optimized?  I always put Linux way above anything microsoft in the OS realm,
> and I'm sure there's a fix for this.  The processor of the Linux box is a
> 300mhz K6-2.  I watched the CPU load during transfer and it did get up to
> 50%ish, but thats not bottleneck speeds.  So I think my original assumption
> was inocorrect, not the ethernet card itself, but the filesystem.  Also, I
> have only tested downloading from Linux=>windows .. was more assuming upload
> would be the same, but in the light of what I have learned recently, that
> could be false also.  Thanks for any help.

I suspect you are hitting a limit due to unoptimized disk I/O.  See
"man hdparm".

Scott
-- 
Scott Hemphill  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This isn't flying.  This is falling, with style."  -- Buzz Lightyear

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Should I upgrade my system or buy new?
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:27:25 GMT

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In article <8pj0r6$lnp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Here is my situation.  I have been running (albeit slowly) Redhat 6.1 on
>the following system.
>
>Intel Pentium 166mhz
>I430VX MB with intel chipset
>128MB EDO RAM (4 72pin SIMMS)
>Diamond Stealth 64 Video Card
>
>I dream someday of KDE 2, koffice, etc as my main system (no more dual
>boot).  It runs pretty slowly now, and I can imagine it will run slower
>in the future as software bloats.

Part of the reason it's slow is that you've put more RAM on the board than
the chipset will cache.  With an i430TX/VX chipset, you really should use no
more than 64MB.

>1. Is the motherboard worth keeping?  Would a faster CPU help at all?  I
>suppose that if I get a new motherboard (and, consequently CPU), I'll
>have to get new RAM as well (but maybe not?).

With the amount of RAM you want to run, about the only processors that would
sidestep the chipset's cache limitation would be an AMD K6-III (discontinued
and very hard to find, though 350s are popping up now at OK prices) or
K6-III+ (also hard to find as AMD only makes those for OEMs to install in
notebooks).  At this point, you might as well build a whole new computer
around a Duron or Athlon, with the appropriate motherboard, memory, etc. 
You could move drives and other stuff from the old computer to the new one,
but since they're probably just as behind the times as the processor and
motherboard, your best bet would be to keep your old computer whole and use
it for stuff that doesn't demand as much performance as today's apps need. 
Get enough old computers together and you could even think of making your
own Beowulf cluster. :-)

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(IIGS(  Scott Alfter (remove Voyager's hull number for email address)
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From: "Richard.Petras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:16:24 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I recently installed a Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro on my system here
at work.  It is an Epox EP-61BXA-M motherboard with a 450 MHz
Pentium II.  I'm running RH Linux 6.0 and Gnome desktop.

By just swapping in the new hardware, I got a basic system that seemed
to work OK.  But occationally the mouse pointer would take off on its own
and send random button clicks to the system.  It also did not use the wheel
capability or the side button on the wireless Mouseman +.

At this point I started my quest into the man pages and news groups to make
things right.  Since I got so much information from this group, I thought I'd
share my solution in the hope that someone else could use it.  I'll go through
all the steps I took just in case one of them works for you.

The best info came from this site:
http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/

I did everything recommended here and things worked pretty well, but....

My original configuration had a PS/2 keyboard and Logitech 3 button mouse
in a PS/2 port.  A direct swap of hardware had the keyboard working
perfectly, but the mouse only used three buttons.  Button 1 was left, button 2
was a press on the wheel, and button 3 was right.  Not bad, but the fourth
button on the side was not used, and the wheel was not used.  Switching
the protocol parameter from "PS/2" to "IMPS/2" made the 4th button act
like button 2.  Not bad, since the wheel press has a pretty strong spring.  Adding
ZAxisMapping 4 5 to the pointer section of XF86Config added the wheel
function, but lost button 4.  Changing to protocol "MouseManPlusPS/2" allowed
using xmodmap to restore button 4 to button 2.  But the mouse would still
go postal occationally in all the PS/2 modes.

Time to move the mouse to a serial port.  Just change the /dev/mouse link
from ps2aux to ttyS0 and set the proper permisions.  That immediately and
permanently fixed the erratic mouse problem, but there is no "MouseManPlus"
protocol for the serial port.  The closest is the "Intellimouse" protocol.  This works
great if you don't want to use the side button.  But to get the side button to work
as button 2 I had to do the following:

1. Put the following lines in XF86Config:
  Buttons 6
  ZAxisMapping 2 5
2. Create a .Xmodmap file at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap or ~/.Xmodmap
 with the following line:
  pointer = 1 4 3 2 5 6
3. In the Gnome control center -> Session manager -> non session managed Startup
 section I added the line:
  xmodmap /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap

What does this do?  First we tell XFree86 that the mouse has 6 buttons including wheel
up and wheel down.  Then map the wheel to button 2 an 5.  That has the effect of 
loosing
the wheel press button, but since X only recognizes 5 buttons, you have to give up
something.  Adding the pointer line to the .Xmodmap file tells X to remap button 2 
(wheel
down) to button 4 which all the apps use for wheel down and map button 4, the side 
button
to button 2 (the way I like it).  You can put the .Xmodmap either globally or locally 
and xinit
will find it.  However, gnome apparently reruns its own xmodmap pointer and screws this
up.  So in Gnome we need to run it again at gnome statrup.

Of course the proper solution would be to fix the PS/2 functionality in XF86 or to add
MouseManPlus capability to the serial drivers, but that's beyond anything I wanted to
mess with.  Hope this helps some of you out there.

Rich Petras




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From: "Kenneth R. van Wyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Request - RedHat 6.2 driver for Supermicro PIIIDM3 AC97 on-board audio
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:35:36 -0400

Does anyone here have the audio functioning under RedHat 6.2 on a Supermicro
PIIIDM3 motherboard?  The board, which uses the Intel 840 chipset, has an
on-board AC97 audio capability.  RH 6.2 recognizes the audio chip, but says
that it is not yet supported.  Any tips would be appreciated.

Thanks

Ken




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From: Trelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Logitech Optical Mouse
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:35:01 -0700

   Is the Logitech Optical Mouse supported in Linux?

-- Trelin


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Buzzard)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: HP M820e CD-RW progress??
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:57:19 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JMJ) writes:
> Greetings,
> 
> I've been looking for info on this CD-RW lately and haven't found any
> messages or postings since around March.  Has anyone made any progress
> getting the included SCSI->PCMCIA adapter recognised in Linux?
> 
> Thanks for any/all info and pointers!!
> 

Check the extra drivers on the PCMCIA page. There is one that will
operate this card in it's 16bit (non cardbus) mode.

JAB.

-- 
Jonathan A. Buzzard                 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Northumberland, United Kingdom.       Tel: +44(0)1661-832195

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From: "Doubt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ethernet Really Slow in Linux
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:58:20 -0500

I think you nailed it .. the "Buffered disk read test" benchmark was maxing
at about 2.3meg/sec which was what I was downloading at.  Unfortunately by
messing with options I've only got it up to 2.67meg/sec ... I think I need
to recompile kernel to support ultradma, think that will dramatically
improve performance?  Also, when i formated the drive I just did "mke2fs
/dev/hdc1" .. so I guess it did the default 1024 block size ... somewhere I
read reformatting it with 4096 will improve performance by reducing number
of seeks?  Anyone know how accurate that is, it will require alot of file
moving to get that reformated.  Thanks again.

Doubt

Scott Hemphill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Doubt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Okay, I did more extensive testing last night, and as I scanned several
> > webpages I came across something about downloading (FTP) a file twice
would
> > put it in the cache, and then a second download would show higher
speeds.  I
> > tested this (after taking the webpage for granted at first) and got
9meg/s
> > download on the second run (still only 2meg/s the first run).  This is
> > tested on a 15meg file, not the biggest file to test, but still should
be
> > alot faster than 2megs.  This leads me to believe that it must be the
way
> > Linux is handleing the file system calls, or the like.  Can this be
> > optimized?  I always put Linux way above anything microsoft in the OS
realm,
> > and I'm sure there's a fix for this.  The processor of the Linux box is
a
> > 300mhz K6-2.  I watched the CPU load during transfer and it did get up
to
> > 50%ish, but thats not bottleneck speeds.  So I think my original
assumption
> > was inocorrect, not the ethernet card itself, but the filesystem.  Also,
I
> > have only tested downloading from Linux=>windows .. was more assuming
upload
> > would be the same, but in the light of what I have learned recently,
that
> > could be false also.  Thanks for any help.
>
> I suspect you are hitting a limit due to unoptimized disk I/O.  See
> "man hdparm".
>
> Scott
> --
> Scott Hemphill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "This isn't flying.  This is falling, with style."  -- Buzz Lightyear



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From: D G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: ltmodem.o and Linux Kernel Versions > 2.2.14
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:56:04 -0700

D G wrote:
> I discovered that, at least for 2.2.16, ltmodem.o can be made to work by
> using the ppp.o module from 2.2.14 (it will probably also work with
> versions < 2.2.14, but I haven't tested it).

2.2.17 checks out OK using the 2.2.14 ppp.o module--I just tested it.  

I also heard a rumor that IBM is working with (for/independent of?)
lucent to build a modem driver for the 2.4 kernels.  The ppp setup has
changed with the kernel 2.4 (apparently, pppasync and ppp now use a
common module called ppp_generic, and have been consequently renamed to
ppp_sync and ppp_async or something similar), so I have doubts about the
2.2.14 ppp module working with it.

-- 
DG
e-mail is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(remove the Z's--they're what I do when I read SPAM!)

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From: "Patricio M�tteri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MODEM
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:37:17 -0300

Is there ANY way I can make a winmodem work on Linux?
ANY?
I have the Diamond Supra Express V. 90 fax voice something and I can't make
it work. i don't think it's a winmodem but that's the only thing I can think
of






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