Linux-Hardware Digest #594, Volume #13           Mon, 18 Sep 00 07:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Bad Mouse (James Richard Tyrer)
  Re: 2nd drive for Linux (James Richard Tyrer)
  Re: trust scanner (Julian Bordas)
  Tried multi-mode option to no avail :-( ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Parallel port and Linux (Peter Keller)
  30 GB free space and still "no enought space" (Jussi J��skel�inen)
  Re: Palm Software on Linux (Kenneth Crudup)
  Re: Palm Software on Linux (Kenneth Crudup)
  Re: Linux on a 386 (Kenneth Crudup)
  Re: Tried multi-mode option to no avail :-( ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: UDMA blues (Kenneth R�rvik)
  Re: d2Mac on sparc with redhat 6.2 ("Jason Byrne")
  Re: UDMA blues (Sreekant Kodela)
  Re: Fujitsu MO block size bafflement (Richard D. McRoberts)
  support for ESS Maestro 1 sound chip w/pt101 codec? (Videologic 5D Sonic) (Ray 
Fencey)
  Re: HP842C (Sven Bovin)
  Re: UDMA blues (Kenneth R�rvik)
  HP CD-Writer 8200e (USB) (Alessandro Russo)

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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Bad Mouse
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 04:14:18 GMT

Chris A wrote:

>     I'm having a problem getting my mouse, a microsoft Intellimouse, working
> for X. Actually it works but only about every 50th time i try it. I use
> mouseconfig to set it up and i've tried all the different ttyS' and seriel
> protocals but nothing seems to work. I've also tried editing the xf86config
> file but it doesn't work there either. Any ideas?

If your mouse works on the console, then it is an X problem.

Press Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get a console.  Log in and see if you can use the mouse.

If you have a PS/2 Wheel Mouse, your XF86.Config should have the following:

    Protocol    IMPS/2
    Device      /dev/mouse
    Buttons     5
    ZAxisMapping  4  5

In the proper syntax for your version of X.

JRT


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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2nd drive for Linux
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 04:17:49 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> David Trussell wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have a Gateway Performance 800 with a 30 Gb drive controlled by a
> > Promise Technology Ultra66 IDE controller.  I have a 6.4 Gb Western
> > Digital Caviar sitting around.  I'd like to put Linux on it.  I tried
> > to hang it off the Promise controller as a slave.  Win98 saw it but
> > the Red Hat 6.1 installation didn't.  The CD drive is on the 2nd
> > on-board IDE controller so I tried to hang it off there as a slave.
> > Red Hat still couldn't see it.
> >
> > Which controller do I use (1st on-board, 2nd on-board, Promise) and
> > what do I set the Caviar to (master or slave)?
> > I have the same problem with my Gateway computer with a digital drive; I
> would appriciate it if you forward any solution you may have.
>
> > Thank you.
> >
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

Connect it as a slave on the same cable as your current hard drive.

DON'T connect it with the CDROM!

JRT



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From: Julian Bordas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: trust scanner
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:22:16 +1100

Kashumi wrote:
> 
> I Have a trust compact scan 19200 - usb scanner, and I want to use it
> with my mandrake 7.1 distro, do you know if it works with sane or in
> any other way?
> Do you know who is the manufacturer of di scanner (really trust? or
> mustek or who else?)
> 
> TNX
> 
> Bye Kashumi

Have a look at http://www.sane.org



-- 
Julian Bordas
Linux newbie since 1995

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tried multi-mode option to no avail :-(
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 04:42:45 GMT

Thanx for the sugestion michael. I tried recompiling with that option,
with no use, I get the exact same error. Here's another thing that I
found out, if i do "hdparm -i /dev/hda" i get bunch of lines one of
which reads (the last one)

UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 mode2 mode3 *mode4 mode5

so the drive is only running at UDMA4, my second drive /dev/hdc gives

UDMA modes: .............................. *mode5

so it seems to be running at UDMA5 just fine, that would explain why i
get Timing buffered disk reads of 28.70MB/s for /dev/hda and 35.80MB/s
for /dev/hdc

my question is, how would I know if the problem is with the ide port on
the card, or if it's the hard disk itself ? (i do have the UDMA mode
set to 5 in the HPT370 bios setup for both disks).

Thanx again

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Michael Burian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> there might be a Kernel option for fixing this.
> (using 2.2.14 myself, no idea about 2.2.16, 17 ...)
>
> If you know how to compile the kernel chances are that the following
> would help:
>
> when doing a make xconfig, (menuconfig, ...) in /usr/scr/linux
> there is the CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE option in
> the Section "Block devices", you have to search for
> "Use multi-mode by default" and say Yes here. (press help to see
why :)
> then recompile- install the kernel,  and see (and tell) if it helped.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I just installed Redhat 2.2.16, recompiled the kernel to 2.2.17 and
> > patched it with the latest ide patch from linux-ide.org
> > My system is a PII400, 256 MB, ABIT HOTROD100 (HPT370 controller),
> > Maxtor 20GB ATA100 & IBM 30GB ATA100 drives. After finishing with
all
> > the installation i boot fine (with pci=reverse) so that my hardisks
are
> > on /dev/hda & /dev/hdc respectively. Everything seems to be okay
but I
> > get sporadic errors in between the boot messages and when I get to
the
> > login prompt, I enter my login and get the following errors :
> >
> > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > hda: dma_intr: status=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
> > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > hda: dma_intr: status=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
> > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > hda: dma_intr: status=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
> > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > hda: dma_intr: status=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
> > ide0: reset: success
> >
> > I enter my password and from then on everything seems to be fine. My
> > questions are what do those errors mean and how can they be fixed if
> > that's possible.
> > Second thing is, how do I know if my drives are actually running at
> > UDMA5 or not (i'm quite to new to linux, i'm surprised i got this
far)?
> > I tried the "hdparm -tT /dev/hda" command which gave me :
> > /dev/hda:
> >   Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.33 seconds = 96.24 MB/sec
> >   Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.23 seconds = 28.70 MB/sec
> >
> > Any ideas? I appreciate the help, thanx !
> >
> > -Firas
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> (when using make xconfig thats
>


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From: Peter Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Parallel port and Linux
Date: 18 Sep 2000 05:00:00 GMT

Peter Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Also, when I manually set the parallel port's ioport to 0x378 instead
: of letting the bios do it, one of my PCI net cards gets an irq of zero
: and refuses to work. *boggle*. The irqs should be different(and they are
: specifically different in my kernel init args), I am at a complete loss
: for why this happens.

Well, after messing with it for a few hours I get one of these two states:

1) Parallel port failed to be detected at 0x378, ethernet card initialized
correctly.

2) Parallel port identified correctly, ethernet card has irq 0. If I use
pci=biosirq, the kernel goes into an infinite loop spitting out bracketed
hex numbers. Even though the parport seems identified, reading any values
from it results in 0xff.

The parport is specified to go to irq 5, and one ethercard is set to 7
and the other to 9. I set the PCI slots to hard irq values in the bios
and turned off PnP.

I have a pci trident video card, and two pci LNE100TX ethernet cards in
the machine, that's it.

I'm still at a loss for why this doesn't work.

Any help would be appreciated.

-- 
-pete

E-mail address corrupted to stop spam.
Reply mail: psilord at cs dot wisc dot edu
I am responsible for what I say, noone else.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jussi J��skel�inen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: 30 GB free space and still "no enought space"
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 05:14:07 GMT

Hi!
I have little - BIG problem...

I have 2 x 45 GB hard disks and I have made them act as RAID-1 (42 GB)
device with Ext-2 file system!

Problem is, that I can copy only about 11 GB data to that /dev/md0
before system says "No free spce left"...

Here what debugfs says:

Filesystem is read-only
Volume name = (none)
Last mounted directory = (none)
Filesystem UUID = 4908f938-8bac-11d4-824b-0000e84e746c
Last mount time = Sat Sep 16 11:49:38 2000
Last write time = Sat Sep 16 13:25:42 2000
Mount counts = 1 (maximal = 20)
Filesystem OS type = Linux
Superblock size = 1024
Block size = 1024, fragment size = 1024
Inode size = 128
11257856 inodes, 11242558 free
45030080 blocks, 29528393 free, 2251504 reserved, first block = 1
8192 blocks per group
8192 fragments per group
2048 inodes per group
5497 groups (172 descriptors blocks)

I seems to me that there is plenty of free space left (and Inodes and
other stuff)


And BTW, I just made test and format one of those disks to ext2.
Copied files to it and ... Same problem.. 12 GB copied and then "no
free space"..  Then I just try to copy MORE and result was that whole
ext2 filesystem broke down... (Atleast e2fsck found about million
different errors from it)

Do I have problem OR do I have PROBLEM!!!

Please, HELP!!!


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Subject: Re: Palm Software on Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Crudup)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 07:02:34 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JDoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says:

>If not, does anyone know if the palm desktop software runs reliably under
>Wine or VMWare?

It runs like a charm under VMware, but I hardly use it, as I have "pilot-xfer"
and never enter anything on the machine anyway.

        -Kenny

-- 
Kenneth R. Crudup   Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C.
Home1: PO Box 914               Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914
Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217  Fremont, CA 94536-7525          (510) 745-8181
Work:  See: "Home2". The hell with slow Bay Area drivers!       (510) 745-0101

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Subject: Re: Palm Software on Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Crudup)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 07:03:31 GMT

>> The palm site is very very slow.  If not, does anyone know if the
>> palm desktop software runs reliably under Wine or VMWare?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says:

>It works under VMWare, but only for slow serial port speeds.

Not true- I use 115.2Kbps on mine. Quite reliably, too.

        -Kenny

-- 
Kenneth R. Crudup   Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C.
Home1: PO Box 914               Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914
Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217  Fremont, CA 94536-7525          (510) 745-8181
Work:  See: "Home2". The hell with slow Bay Area drivers!       (510) 745-0101

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Subject: Re: Linux on a 386
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Crudup)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 07:06:38 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric Dondelinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says:

>but don't even think of trying ssh connections for instance from that
>machine (the encryption stuff slowed down my P90 very noticably).

I run sshd into, and ssh out of (only occasionally) my firewall machine,
a P-100.

>You might want to use older kernel 2.0.x here, rather than 2.2 or even 2.4.

Nah, a 2.2 would work better than a 2.0 . Mine's 2.2.14 .

        -Kenny

-- 
Kenneth R. Crudup   Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C.
Home1: PO Box 914               Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914
Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217  Fremont, CA 94536-7525          (510) 745-8181
Work:  See: "Home2". The hell with slow Bay Area drivers!       (510) 745-0101

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Subject: Re: Tried multi-mode option to no avail :-(
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Sep 2000 03:05:39 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 mode2 mode3 *mode4 mode5
> so the drive is only running at UDMA4, my second drive /dev/hdc gives
> UDMA modes: .............................. *mode5
> so it seems to be running at UDMA5 just fine, that would explain why i
> get Timing buffered disk reads of 28.70MB/s for /dev/hda and 35.80MB/s
> for /dev/hdc

It may also be that the first drive is just slower.  The interface
type alone doesn't make your drive one bit faster.

> my question is, how would I know if the problem is with the ide port on
> the card, or if it's the hard disk itself ? (i do have the UDMA mode
> set to 5 in the HPT370 bios setup for both disks).

Swap the drives.  If the problem "flip-flops," try pulling one drive
and testing both on both channels one at a time.

You might wish to use a boot disk to do this, as Linux can become
confused if you, for example, suddenly move the root drive to a
different location or remove it altogether.

-- 
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Subject: Re: UDMA blues
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 07:21:25 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sindh) wrote in <8q21pq$39$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>Mandrake 7.1 , via UDMA66 interface.
>
>cache reads: 71.51 mb/sec
>disk reads: 2.41mb/sec

!! I am getting 21,5 MB/s with a similar setup (mdk 7.1, HotRod 66 with 
HPT366). Try getting the latest 2.4.0-test kernel (8 at the moment), and 
compile in support for HPT366. The out-of-the-box support for HPT366 in 7.1 
is probably a patched 2.2.15(?) kernel, so upgrading to a newer one might 
do the trick (It did for me :)

>RedHat 6.2 via UDMA33 interface.
>
>/dev/hda:
> multcount    =  0 (off)
> I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
> unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
> using_dma    =  0 (off)

Try setting hdparm -u1 -d1 (and possibly -m16 -c1) /dev/hda and see if that 
works. Note: Read man hdparm first! It is possible that using certain 
hdparm parameters can cause fs corruption. Probably not in your casse 
though. 

>/dev/hda:
> Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in 19.24 seconds =  3.33 MB/sec

Again, much better is probably possible. 

-- 
Kenneth R�rvik          91841353/22950312
Nordbergv. 60A          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0875 OSLO               home.no.net/stasis

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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: d2Mac on sparc with redhat 6.2
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 00:31:58 -0700

hmmm... interesting question - might do better in sparc-specific groups or
mailing lists.

I wasn't sure what a d2Mac drive was when I decided to read your post.

just for trivia - I have a Sparc 10 running SuSE 7.0 sparc, previously
running RedHat 6.1 sparc, Solaris 7, etc...

sorry I'm not actually offering any help ;-)

> Hi, folks!
> Does anybody know how I can have my d2Mac drive (a removable SCSI optical
disk drive for the macintosh, that seems to be built by Sony) recognized on
my SparcStation IPX machine? It does (sometime) when I remove the cdrom
(scsi id 6) and I set the d2mac at scsi id6 and rteboot... yet, I can't
mount any disk (kernel seems no to support it). Do you have an idea about
options I should pass to the kernel, things I should compile in it, or
anything else? I'd like to put it at scsi ID 5 and keep the cdrom (an old
apple cdrom, too...)
>
> --
> -----
>  La vie est une maladie sexuellement transmissible
>



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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:30:33 +0000
From: Sreekant Kodela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UDMA blues

Now I actually run RH6.2, 2.4 test 5 kernel. It says lost interupt.
Speeds are good 70mb/sec and 23 mb/sec approx. But losing interrupt and hangs
for a long time.

errors below.

/dev/hde:
 multcount    =  0 (off)
 I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
 using_dma    =  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 nowerr       =  0 (off)
 readonly     =  0 (off)
 readahead    =  8 (on)
 geometry     = 3322/255/63, sectors = 53369568, start = 0

ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_lostirq func only: 13
hde: lost interrupt

hde: (ide_dma_lostirq)  reg50h=0x33, reg52h=0x00, reg5ah=0x01
ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_lostirq func only: 13
hde: lost interrupt

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
sreekant


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard D. McRoberts)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu MO block size bafflement
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Sep 2000 04:53:10 -0400

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:50:53 -0700, John Hagen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm contemplating the purchase of an external SCSI Fujitsu 1.3 GB
>magneto optical  drive to use with a Linux kernel 2.2 (Debian
>potato) installation. I'm trying to find out if one can use such
>a MO drive with media that has 2048 byte sectors with Linux.
[deletia]

I have 2048b/sector media with my 640MB Fuji drive.  With kernels
2.2.x and utilities such as included in recent Red Hat distributions,
all works smoothly.  In fdisk as well as in mke2fs it is necessary
to specify the flag "-b 2048".  I have also run fsck for such
filesystems but have not sought an alternate superblock, at least
not explicitly.

These days, though, DVD-RAM looks more attractive.  It's 2048b/sect
also, I think.

Hope this helps. 

-- 
Richard D. McRoberts
Union, WV USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Ray Fencey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: support for ESS Maestro 1 sound chip w/pt101 codec? (Videologic 5D Sonic)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:57:22 GMT

hi

i've been trying to get my soundcard working (w/kernel 2.2.17) for a
while now w/o success.  the card i have is actually a Videologic 5D
Sonic which is a (pci) graphix card and soundcard on the same board.


according the output of `lspci -v`
     ...
     00:12.1 Multimedia audio controller: Platform Technologies, Inc.:
Unknown device 0100 (rev 10)
       Subsystem: Unknown device 1285:1010
       Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10
       I/O ports at e800

     01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Tseng Labs Inc ET6000 (rev 70)
Flags: slow devsel, IRQ 11
       Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
       I/O ports at c800

which is apparently telling me that it is an ESS Mastro 1 AGOGO
(according to kernel docs).  so i compile and build into the kernel
support of this card (CONFIG_SOUND=y and CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO=y)

on bootup however i get:
    ...
     maestro: version 0.14 time 16:36:06 Sep 10 2000
     maestro: Configuring ESS Maestro found at IO 0xE800 IRQ 10
     maestro:  subvendor id: 0x10101285
     maestro: not attempting power management.
     maestro: my goodness!  you seem to have a pt101 codec, which is
quite rare.
               you should tell someone about this.
     maestro: 1 channels configured.
     ...

but still no sound via the /dev/dsp device (playing cds, catting
au's/wavs etc).

determined to figure out why, i've had a look in the kernel src for this
module (linux/src/drivers/sound/maestro.c) and there lines relevant are:

    if(maestro_ac97_get(iobase, 0x00)==0x0080) {
        printk(KERN_ERR "maestro: my goodness!  you seem to have a pt101
codec, which is quite rare.\n"
                                "\tyou should tell someone about
this.\n");
        } else {
        maestro_ac97_init(card,iobase);
    }

looking at the maestro_ac97_init() fn, the comments say that pt101 codec
is untested, and therefore i dont know whether the above function should
accor regardless.

if someone out there has got the same card (videologic 5d sonic) to
work, i'd be very grateful if they could tell me how they configured
the kernel and anything additional they had to do.  any other
suggestions would also be appreciated.

thanks
ray

is this something i should mail the module author about? :)


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From: Sven Bovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP842C
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:08:48 +0200

Sparkzz wrote:
> 
> Actually, I just found out that the color does work, with the
> exception of
> color created with  TeX (LaTeX), which I need
> very badly.
> 
> The color print and background when printed from dvips are shaded, but > not
> colored.
> 
> Anyone have any clues???
> 
> thanks,

Does dvips load the correct headers ?

Sven

-- 
===========================================================
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===========================================================

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Subject: Re: UDMA blues
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:22:22 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sreekant Kodela) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

I am not sure what these mean excactly, but have you tried unmasking IRQ? 
(hdparm -u1 /dev/hde). It's a long shot, but worth a try. You should be 
using it anyway, btw, for a slight performance improvement. 

I don't know about the kernel IDE status, but you could also try getting 
the patches for test6-8, and give it a new try with those. 

>errors below.
>
>/dev/hde:
> multcount    =  0 (off)
> I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
> unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
> using_dma    =  1 (on)
> keepsettings =  0 (off)
> nowerr       =  0 (off)
> readonly     =  0 (off)
> readahead    =  8 (on)
> geometry     = 3322/255/63, sectors = 53369568, start = 0
>
>ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_lostirq func only: 13
>hde: lost interrupt
>
>hde: (ide_dma_lostirq)  reg50h=0x33, reg52h=0x00, reg5ah=0x01
>ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_lostirq func only: 13
>hde: lost interrupt


-- 
Kenneth R�rvik          91841353/22950312
Nordbergv. 60A          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Alessandro Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP CD-Writer 8200e (USB)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:38:46 +0200

Hi,

I have seen in linux-2.4.0-test8 that there is support for the 
USB cd writer HP 8200e (see the file linux/drivers/usb/storage/shuttle_usbat.c).

Has anybody tried it?

Thanks in advance

Ale

-- 
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================
Istituto di Analisi Numerica - CNR
via Ferrata, 1
I-27100 Pavia (ITALY)
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