Linux-Hardware Digest #710, Volume #13 Wed, 11 Oct 00 14:13:07 EDT
Contents:
VIP Conector (Osvaldo Fornaro)
UDMA 66 on Redhat 7.0!!!!!!!!!!
Winmodem ("Peter Robinson")
Re: Boot Problems, LILO and fsck, need RECOVER help (John in SD)
Re: what CPUs for this mobo? (John)
Re: what CPUs for this mobo? (John)
Re: what CPUs for this mobo? (John)
Re: linux kernel unable to identify harddisk disk cache (John)
Re: zip drive (Ken Siersma)
Re: Drive Order (two drives) (John)
Re: Getting ATA 100 IDE drive to work with Mandrake 7.1 (John)
Re: Winmodem ("Adam Short")
Re: Winmodem
HELP! ttyS0, external modem problem ("Guennadi V. Liakhovetski")
2.2.17 wouldn't power off the PC (The Hack)
Re: zip drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ISDN - How to install? (Vlastimil Pohnetal)
Compaq SMART/2 Raid and Expanding Drives w/Linux (Paul Slinski)
Re: UDMA 66 on Redhat 7.0!!!!!!!!!! (Bryan Siemon)
Re: Aureal Sound Cards (me)
Need hardware advice
Re: Winmodem (Cristian)
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From: Osvaldo Fornaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VIP Conector
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:16:06 -0300
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Hi,
could any say me what is the VIP conector that appears in my motherboard
(Intel SR440BX with NVidia TNT on board)?
Is it relationed with MPEG decompresion or with DVD players?
Thanks in advance.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UDMA 66 on Redhat 7.0!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:30:05 -0000
I just downloaded the latest R&H and to my surprise It didnt support my
promise ATA 66 controller card. I found a patch for R&H 6.0 and downloaded
it and tried it but I got a kernel panic error even before I could even do
anything.
Is there another patch out there? is there another way around the
problem?? or will I have to wait will Kernel 2.4
BTW when does 2.4 come out??? I am in desperate need to run Linux on my
system.
thanks for the help.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: "Peter Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Winmodem
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:31:29 -0400
I'm unable to gat a winmodem on an IBM laptop to register with Redhat Linux
6.2. I was wondering if anyone has had similiar problems, and a solution.
Thanks,
Peter Robinson
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot Problems, LILO and fsck, need RECOVER help
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:31:03 GMT
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:24:13 -0700, "David N. Haney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Linux Gurus:
>
>I have an odd problem. I have a machine (Compaq) with a 10G disk
>that has been partitioned with hda1 as Win98, hda2 as Linux swap,
>and hda3 as Linux native.
>
>The Linux is Caldera 2.4. While in windows something odd happened
>and it went out to lunch (stupid MS). Upon rebooting, the error of
>"no operating system" is obtained. I assume this means that the
>problem is LILO has gotten corrupted.
The partition table on the Master Boot Record is corrupted. The error message
comes from the BIOS.
--John
>
>Attempting to boot with the Linux Rescue floppy yeilds an error:
>"Kernel panic unable to mount root fs on 03:03"
>
>I am guessing that perhaps the file system may need to be checked
>before mounting (ie run fsck). How do I recover and get around this
>problem? I have tried copying fsck to the boot floppy (on a different
>system), but when I run in in the boot shell, I get segmentation fault.
>
>Thanks for your assistance.
LILO version 21.6 (04-Oct-2000) source at
ftp: metalab.unc.edu dir: /pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what CPUs for this mobo?
Date: 11 Oct 2000 22:45:46 +0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Bob Berman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The socket is Socket 7 - 321 pin.
>> I realize this motherboard is very old, but will Pentium IIs or K6-2
>> CPUs work in this?
> The P2 and P3 both use Slot 1. Celerons use Socket 370. Slot 1 and S370
> CPUs can be adapted to the other form factor, but not to S7.
> AMD chips still around - I think the K6-2's - use S7.
I'm running an AMD K6-II/500 in a super socket 7 M/b. I'm sure it could be made to run
slower, but you DO need to watch the voltage.
AMD has a web page devoted to compatible M/boards.
> [...]
>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
> Invest the $20 or $30 for a P2/P3 motherboard. If you eventually
> decide to go from a P2-266 or whatever and up to a P3-700, just change
> the jumper from a 66MHz FSB to a 100MHz FSB.
Sure
Ever tried putting an ATX M/b in an AT case?
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what CPUs for this mobo?
Date: 11 Oct 2000 22:51:07 +0800
David_C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Of course, everything becomes easier if you decide you want to just
> replace the motherboard. Motherboards aren't terribly expensive. You
> should be able to get a Super-7 (Socket-7 at 100MHz) board with full
> K6-2 and K6-3 support for pretty cheap. Socket-370 boards (for
> Celerons) are also pretty inexpensive.
A problem with replacing the M/b is that he will also need new RAM; finding a
new M/b that taks FPM or EDO RAM may not be easy.
Mind you, am AMD k6-II 500 + ASUS P5S-B and 128 Mbytes of RAM and the box will
be transformed almost beyond belief.
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what CPUs for this mobo?
Date: 11 Oct 2000 22:53:44 +0800
hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My old ASUS P55T2P4 is running with a K6-2/400 just fine. You can get
> non-standard voltages by using multiple jumpers for the reference
> voltage divider string. ASUS has a beta BIOS that recognizes the
> K6-2/400. Since I already had the motherboard and memory, the $42 for
> the processor was a reasonable upgrade.
Toms Hardware has an article about making that board go faster. I read through it,
wishing
it applied to one I have.
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux kernel unable to identify harddisk disk cache
Date: 11 Oct 2000 22:57:00 +0800
Alastair Tse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi..
> I was wondering if anyone has the same problem as me. Currently my
> hardware is :
> Sony Vaio PCG-N505VE
> Toshiba MK6412 6.4G IDE HD (w/ 512KB Cache)
> Onboard Controller from Intel 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev1)
> And I'm running :
> RedHat 7.0
> Linux Kernel 2.2.16-22
> One day I booted up an noticed that it says that my HD has no disk cache
> at all :
I have a Fujitsu drive that Linux says has no cache. I have assumed it's
telling lies; it's about as fast as my other drives of similar age.
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From: Ken Siersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: zip drive
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:42:18 +0000
Thank you for your reply,
I believe it is the same type of non-ATAPI IDE drive as you are using.
Here's more info, maybe it will make you think of something:
After rebooting, I can mount and unmount the zip disk that was in the drive
when it booted as many times as I want. As soon as I take out the disk
(using the eject button) and put in a new one, I can't mount it or the one
that was in there when it booted. I get the same error I mentioned below.
If this doesn't help, you mentioned that older 2.2 kernels worked fine with
the drive. Do you happen to know if 2.2.12 was okay? We have a machine with
RH 5.2 and 2.2.12 on it for portability reasons.
Thanks again,
Ken
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ken Siersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hello,
> > Strange things with my zip drive now that I've upgraded to RH 6.1:
> >
> > Here's /etc/fstab:
> > /dev/hdb4 /mnt/zip vfat noauto,user,rw
> > 0 0
> >
> > Can't mount it as normal user or root, even though I could last week. I
> > get the following error:
> >
> > mount: /dev/hdb4 is not a valid block device
> >
> > Another strange thing is that RH 6.1 won't boot unless a zip disk is in
> > the zip drive. It doesn't matter what disk is in there.
> >
> > Strange . . .
> > Ken
>
> You need to know exactly what kind of internal ZIP drive you have.
> Since you're using /dev/hdb4, I'll assume it's an IDE drive. But
> there are still two flavors of that, ATAPI and non-ATAPI.
>
> Very early internal IDE ZIP drives were non-ATAPI drives, while
> everything more recent is an ATAPI drive.
>
> Older 2.2 kernels understood how to deal with the non-ATAPI ZIP
> drives, but newer 2.2 kernels have a few problems with them. One of
> the problems with newer 2.2 kernels is that they won't boot unless you
> have a ZIP disk in the drive. They sit there forever with a message
> like "hdb: lost interrupt". If you boot with a disk in the drive,
> there should be no problem booting.
>
> I don't know where your "not a valid block device" message came from.
> Perhaps you have something (in lilo.conf?) that tells the kernel to
> use a driver different than "ide-disk" for hdb? For a non-ATAPI
> drive, it appears that you can't use ide-floppy. But the default
> should be ide-disk, so that's probably not the problem.
>
> I have a non-ATAPI ZIP drive, and am able to use RH6.1 and RH6.2
> successfully, though I do have the problem that I must leave the disk
> in the drive when booting (actually, the disk must be there any time
> the system tries to access the ZIP drive, or there are problems).
>
> --
> Eric Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://labejb.lks.agilent.com/
> (425) 335-2495
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Drive Order (two drives)
Date: 11 Oct 2000 23:00:09 +0800
BloodRed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure about the order, but that ATA33 drive will slow down the 100
> if they're on the same channel. Both devices will run at the speed of the
> slowest device on the IDE channel, so the 100 will only run at 33. I just
> took my ATA33 harddrive off of the IDE channel that my ATA66 HDD is on, and
> it sped up noticibly.
You should also use a UDMA/66 cable; it has 40 pins but 80 wires. I assume
every second wire's earthed, and present to reduce crosstalk.
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting ATA 100 IDE drive to work with Mandrake 7.1
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Date: 11 Oct 2000 23:02:17 +0800
In comp.os.linux.hardware BloodRed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got a CUSL2 that has an ATA100 channel on it. When I run the 7.1 setup
> I can see the drive and format the partitions. I can install all the
> packages, but my video causes an error every damn time. When I try to boot
> into Linux, "LI" pops up on the screen and it locks. I can't even get into
> Linux via the boot disk. I get the same error. Could this have anything to
> do with the ATA100 channel?
More likely that you've installed the kernel above cyl 1023 and not taken
appropriate countermeasures.
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From: "Adam Short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Winmodem
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:59:31 GMT
Unfortunately a winmodem is just that, a windows modem. Unless its one of
the ones listed at www.linmodems.org you are unlikely to be able to get it
to work. There has been some work done on them but I don't know if anyone's
had any success at making a working driver. My advice is check and see. If
you can't get it to work after that, you'd better bin it and get a real
modem.
Adam
Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8s213l$6rs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm unable to gat a winmodem on an IBM laptop to register with Redhat
Linux
> 6.2. I was wondering if anyone has had similiar problems, and a solution.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter Robinson
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Winmodem
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:22:30 GMT
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:31:29 -0400, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm unable to gat a winmodem on an IBM laptop to register with Redhat Linux
>6.2. I was wondering if anyone has had similiar problems, and a solution.
It's not a modem. It's a sound card with software to whistle like a modem.
Get a real modem.
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From: "Guennadi V. Liakhovetski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP! ttyS0, external modem problem
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:15:58 +0100
Hello
So, here is the problem: I first installed SuSE 6.3 using a standard
kernel, and the modem worked fine. But the soundcard didn't. Then I had to
re-configure and recompile the kernel (I've never done it myself
before...), I read all those dox about isapnp, but eventually I found out
that the soundcard (ONLY) works if no isapnp.conf file is present and that
linux sets up IRQs, IOs and DMAs correctly (exectly in accordance with
Win... yeah, I had it before on this machine, and I still have this disk
in case of trouble...). But now my modem does not work. So, either:
1) I misconfigured my kernel and either did not include support for it or
included something that I shouldn't really...
or
2) the soundcard and the modem conflict. However a quick check did not
show any conflicts. But maybe I was not doing a right check...
Now, could anybody, please, tell me shat EXACTLY components I MUST
configure my kernel for on a standalone computer, having, among optional
hardware ONLY a soundcard and a modem (including PPP networking, of
course). And how EXACTLY can I check if there are any conflicts? And do I
REALLY need isapnp.conf? When I did try to use it I only got some conflict
messages...
dmesg (boot-time messages) show 'approximately' the same ttyS* records for
both kernels, but at different stages... I am away from that computer now,
so, can't tell exactly.
Can I find out how the kernel on the cd was configured?
Please HELP!
Thanks
Guennadi
___
Dr. Guennadi V. Liakhovetski
Sheffield Centre for Earth Observation Science
Department of Applied Mathematics
University of Sheffield
Hicks Building, Hounsfield Road
Sheffield S3 7RH
phone: +44-(0)114-222-3798
fax: +44-(0)114-222-3739
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: The Hack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.2.17 wouldn't power off the PC
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:21:07 +0200
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: zip drive
Date: 11 Oct 2000 09:49:39 -0700
Ken Siersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thank you for your reply,
> I believe it is the same type of non-ATAPI IDE drive as you are using.
> Here's more info, maybe it will make you think of something:
>
> After rebooting, I can mount and unmount the zip disk that was in the drive
> when it booted as many times as I want. As soon as I take out the disk
> (using the eject button) and put in a new one, I can't mount it or the one
> that was in there when it booted. I get the same error I mentioned below.
> If this doesn't help, you mentioned that older 2.2 kernels worked fine with
> the drive. Do you happen to know if 2.2.12 was okay? We have a machine with
> RH 5.2 and 2.2.12 on it for portability reasons.
> Thanks again,
> Ken
I wish I could help, but I don't know why it would do that. Mine
doesn't - I can eject the disk and put in a new one, and mount that,
and it works fine. I do it all the time. I assume you unmount before
ejecting? Not that it should matter, really.
One trick I learned recently is to look in /proc/ide/hdb. This
directory contains information from the kernel. In particular, look
at the "driver" file, and see what it says is being used for the
driver for hdb. On my machine, it says something like "ide-disk
version x.xx". See if this changes on your machine after ejecting the
disk? But I don't know what to do about it if it does.
Also look in /var/log/messages, and see if there is anything useful
printed when you eject, and when you try to mount the new disk.
I don't know which kernel worked better for me, but I think it was the
original RH6.1 kernel (and earlier) that worked, while RH6.2 didn't
work. I could be wrong though. If I were you, I'd try 2.2.12 and see
how it behaves. That might be early enough.
I keep meaning to look into this further, and try to patch the newer
kernels, but I don't know a lot about the kernel so I keep putting it
off. Plus I keep hoping that somebody else will fix this in newer
kernels. Maybe in 2.4?
--
Eric Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://labejb.lks.agilent.com/
(425) 335-2495
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From: Vlastimil Pohnetal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ISDN - How to install?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:30:14 +0200
Embedded DIMM modules of ISDN and ETIS (see http://www.mite.cz) was
installed with HiSAX driver without any problem.
> I have the same qusetion...
> When I configure Connection to Internet (Mandrake 7+1/KDE shell), it says to
> me that for Internal ISDN Cards that recognizes AT commands I have to set
> device as ttyI0~3, but my card doesn't respond!!!
>
> HELP!!!
>
> tesKing
>
> "Andr� Offringa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:8rn71q$2hc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have an ISDN network card in my computer but I don't know how to install
> > it in Linux?
> >
> > Does anyone know anything about how to do that?
> >
> > --
> > Borland or my life? Well... Errr..
> > *sigh*
> > ===Andr� Offringa===
> >
> >
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From: Paul Slinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compaq SMART/2 Raid and Expanding Drives w/Linux
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:28:05 -0400
We have a Compaq 3000 server with 3 18 gig SCSI drives on a Smart/2
controller. We have added 2 new drives to the array and expanded the
array using Compaq's tools. Now, I cannot find any information on
expanding the array under linux.
Has anyone done this with success before? Your input is appreciated!
Paul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bryan Siemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UDMA 66 on Redhat 7.0!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:37:26 GMT
If you are talking about that patch from promise, its not going to work. You
have to get one of Hedricks's patches. I do recommend you get a clean source
of 2.2.17 from kernel.org, though as the kernel that comes with RH doesn't
really like these patches. You can get the patch for your kernel here:
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/ You also have to add
the card's IO addys to lilo.conf as an append line (even with the 2.4
kernel). Boot from a boot disk (or CD) and CD to /proc, and open pci with
pico. (if you /proc/pci, the list of devices will scroll down the screen too
fast to read) You will see the Promise card listed along with 5 addresses.
When you append lilo.conf, you will put ide2=first address,second address+2
ide3=third address,forth address+2. For example, my append line looks like
this: append="ide2=0xa400,0xa000 ide3=0x9800,0x9400" Yours will look
different. Also, if you moved drives around you have to edit fstab and
lilo.conf to reflect the changes. You can do all of this with a boot disk/CD.
You should also check out the UDMA how-to available at www.linuxdocs.org.
Hope this helps.
Bryan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just downloaded the latest R&H and to my surprise It didnt support my
> promise ATA 66 controller card. I found a patch for R&H 6.0 and downloaded
> it and tried it but I got a kernel panic error even before I could even do
> anything.
>
> Is there another patch out there? is there another way around the
> problem?? or will I have to wait will Kernel 2.4
> BTW when does 2.4 come out??? I am in desperate need to run Linux on my
> system.
>
> thanks for the help.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Aureal Sound Cards
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:42:45 -0700
The folks over at SourceForge have improved the Aureal driver, and
their modified version is supposed to work much better. You can get
the modified driver, and information abvout it, here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aureal/
I am currently having trouble getting it installed under RedHat 7, but
that may be a problem just with that distribution. The SourceForge
driver apparently works great with RedHat 6.2, and many other
distributions.
PS - Anyone know how to make the driver work under RedHat 7?
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need hardware advice
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:56:28 GMT
Greetings,
I am currently specing out a server and looking for some advice on hard,
particularly motherboards.
The system is going to be a high capacity storage server. Using 36 or
73 Gig Seagate Cheetah drives. I'm looking to do about 200-250 Gigs
striped/mirrored for right now. After doing some research the Seagates and
Quantums seemed to hit the top of the stack, but due to my past experience
with Quantums I decided to go with the somewhat slower(few percent) Seagate.
I am planning to run this on a Mylex SCSI RAID card under linux.
I'm not sure what motherboard to run this with however. I need a
motherboard that's all PCI slots, I have no use for ISA in this case, and a
minimum of external features. I don't need audio or built in video, or USB,
but I can disable extra options like that. If someone could provide some
good suggestions for server quality motherboards which are known to work
well under the latest linux kernel(experience with Mylex SCSI cards on these
boards is even better) I would definetly be interested in hearing what you
have to say about them. Also any experiences good/bad with Mylex would be
interesting as well.
Thanks,
Jon C.
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From: Cristian <c{ristian}h{umberto}[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Winmodem
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:07:27 GMT
Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm unable to gat a winmodem on an IBM laptop to register with Redhat Linux
> 6.2. I was wondering if anyone has had similiar problems, and a solution.
You might be lucky. I have an IBM laptop with a Lucent winmodem and it
works perfectly well. There are different *kinds* of winmodems, and Lucent
actually has a DSP processor so it doesn't overload your CPU (at full
speed it might take 2-3% of CPU out of a PIII-500). Don't try to install
as other HW because it will never be recognized; you need to follow the
suggested link and download the driver and install. Hope you have one of
these, check your manufacturer. Bye.
C.
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