Linux-Hardware Digest #44, Volume #14 Sat, 16 Dec 00 23:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: crossover cable (Eric Bambach)
Re: ATA disk bad blocks (Dances With Crows)
Re: choosing a hard drive (Dances With Crows)
Re: ATI Rage Fury ("Doug Kramer")
DRI compiling problems (LNyT)
RH 7 and Linksys LNE100tx tulip compile problem (Rasmussen)
any Good MB for Duron? ("Dack")
Re: choosing a hard drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
external modem problem! help! (zak)
Configuration driving me crazy!!! ("Drew")
Re: DRI compiling problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: DRI compiling problems (Noble Pepper)
Cyberpower UPS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: external modem problem! help! (Noble Pepper)
Re: weird keyboard/mouse problem ("Dan White")
Re: Cyberpower UPS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Bambach)
Subject: Re: crossover cable
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:16:09 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to connect the two computers I have at home with a crossover
>cable. I have cable modem (att@home). One computer has two NICs (an SMP
>EtherPower and a linksys card) and the other has a 3com card. If I plug
>the cable modem in any of these 3 cards separately, I can connect to the
>outer world without a hitch (after configuring the interface and the
>routing table, of course). The only thing that I can't do is have the
>computers talk to each other. I noticed that when I plug the cable modem
>into any of the card, the leds light up, but when I plug the crossover
>cable, neither end lights up, so I suspect it is a hardware problem. Is
>this normal? Do I change the cable? Do I get a hub?
>
>Thanks!
>
i agree with everyones advice, although worst comes worst and you stumped all
the guru's here then just go out and buy a hub. Im not sure but they're not
terribly expensive and it can save you the headache you seem to be getting
from this. :) best of luck
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: ATA disk bad blocks
Date: 17 Dec 2000 02:46:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:34:47 -0500, lewis e. lipkin staggered into
the Black Sun and said:
>Does an ATA disk handle bad blocks the way old IDEs did by remapping
>them,? Or does it act like SCSI and mark them ?
AFAIK, IDE disks have always mapped marginal sectors to a pool of known
good spare sectors (when they did anything about bad sectors at all,
that is), and the newest ATA-100 80G drives do this too. If you start
getting bad sectors on a modern IDE disk, that most likely means it's
time for a new disk. It is possible (using badblocks and mke2fs -c) to
find where the bad sectors are no matter what the device is, but bad
sectors only grow in number over time. HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware
Subject: Re: choosing a hard drive
Date: 17 Dec 2000 02:46:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:18:05 GMT, sherry staggered into the Black Sun and said:
> I'm uncertain as to whether cross posting the same message to three
>different newsgroups constitutes as spam, technically speaking, so I
>will apologize in advance if this is the case.
Appears on-topic for all groups you x-posted to. The vicious dogs will
not be released at this time :-]
> I wish to buy a new hard drive for my computer that will be used as a
>second (and perhaps third) partition. I'd like it to be of the IDE sort.
>I'd like it to be of a price tag of no more than $200CND. Also,
>importantly, I'd very much like it to be supported under most if not all
>linux distros. Aside from these three criterias, I haven't the slightest
>clue on how to pick a good quality hard drive. What am I to look for?
>What are "good" access times in this day and age?
[snippage]
You shouldn't worry too much about Linux support. If it's a disk drive,
and it plugs into the IDE interface, Linux will support it with no
fiddling on your part 99.5% of the time. The exception here is old
kernels (< 2.2.14) and large drives (>32G) but that can be fixed very
easily with a kernel upgrade.
If it's speed you're concerned about, get more RAM. Linux has a pretty
efficient disk caching mechanism in place, and RAM is an order of
magnitude faster than even a 15K RPM drive on an Ultra-SCSI bus. If
it's access time you're concerned about, get something that spins at
7200RPM instead of 5400. If you need the ultimate in disk performance,
IDE is not for you. I wouldn't worry too much about ATA 66 or ATA 100;
even the fastest modern disks have trouble transferring data from the
head-disk assembly at speeds over 33M/sec. You might see a *slight*
speed improvement from ATA66 vs. ATA33, but it wouldn't be noticable for
a home user unless you are running things that are highly disk-intensive
(databases accessed 10+ times/second with some highly complex queries,
for example) and then you should go SCSI+RAID anyway to save your data
and your sanity. HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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Reply-To: "Doug Kramer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Doug Kramer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI Rage Fury
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:49:05 -0500
You have the ruby slipper's! Just rerun your xf86config and select the ATI
Wonder SVGA. When you select the ATI Wonder SVGA server, your actually
selecting the xf86_SVGA with the r128 driver.
Here is what XFree86.org said pertaining to the ATI:
6. ATI
3.3.6:
Accelerated support is provided for the Mach8 chips (by the XF86_Mach8
server), Mach32 chips (by the XF86_Mach32 server), the following Mach64 and
Rage chips: GX, CX, CT, ET, VT, VT3, GT, RageII+DVD, RagePro (GB, GD, GI,
FP, GQ), VT4, Rage IIC (GV, GW, GZ), Rage LT Pro (LD, LB, LI, LP), Rage LT,
Rage XL or XC (GL, GM, GN, GO, GR, GS) and Rage Mobility (LM, LN, LR, LS)
(by the XF86_Mach64 server). Unaccelerated support is provided for most of
the above (except some early Mach8 and Mach32 adapters), as well the old
VGAWonder series chipsets (18800, 18800-1, 28800-2, 28800-4, 28800-5,
28800-6) by the XF86_SVGA server with the ati driver. Accelerated support is
provided for the Rage 128 chips by the XF86_SVGA server with the r128
driver.
4.0.1:
Accelerated support is provided for the Rage 128 chips by the "r128" driver.
Accelerated support is provided for the Mach64 Rage variants by the "ati"
driver. Unaccelerated support is provided for all of the others except the
Mach8 and some early Mach32 chips by the "ati" driver.
Summary:
All chips supported in 3.3.6 are supported in 4.0.1 except for Mach8 and
some old Mach32 chips. The support in 4.0.1 is, however, unaccelerated for
all chips except the Mach64, Rage and Rage 128 variants.
Post a reply I would like to know how it worked out.
"Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> no i think my chipset is mach64 but is worth trying anyway,
> where can i get it?
>
> Doug Kramer wrote:
> >
> > I am having problems with mine so I don't have room to talk!
> >
> > But wouldn't you want to install ATI Wonder SVGA server for your Rage
128
> > chip? I thought that's what XFree86 suggested for this ATI hardware
instead
> > of the old Mach64 server under version 4.01.
> >
> > You want the R128 driver.
> >
> > "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > i've tried lots of things on xf86config, perhaps a lower-level
> > > configuration
> > > can solve the problem. and what about the xserver? i'm using the
mach64
> > > server
> > > and i've set the card to number 104 in xf86config, does it matter?
> > >
> > > James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Robert wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > anyone been succesful on configuring an ATI Rage Fury under
xfree86
> > > > > 4.0.1?
> > > > > i actually can only get 640x480, which is *pathetic*
> > > >
> > > > At the risk of being redundant:
> > > >
> > > > Section "Screen"
> > > > Identifier "Screen 1"
> > > > Device "ATI Rage IIC"
> > > > Monitor "NEC MultiSync3V"
> > > > DefaultDepth 24
> > > >
> > > > Subsection "Display"
> > > > Depth 24
> > > > Modes "1024x768"
> > > > ViewPort 0 0
> > > > EndSubsection
> > > > EndSection
> > > >
> > > > Ad some other Modes if you want, need, and you monitor can support
them.
> > > >
> > > > But this isn't enough, you have to have the proper horizontal
refresh
> > > > and vertical sync rates. And, don't enter something that your
monitor
> > > > won't handle or you may give new meaning to the term "smoke test".
> > > >
> > > > Section "Monitor"
> > > >
> > > > Identifier "NEC MultiSync3V"
> > > >
> > > > HorizSync 31.5 - 48.5
> > > >
> > > > VertRefresh 50-70
> > > >
> > > > EndSection
> > > >
> > > > The above range will support 1024 x 768.
> > > >
> > > > These are copies from my XFree86Config file.
> > > >
> > > > And, I presume that your driver (device) is also correct:
> > > >
> > > > Section "Device"
> > > > Identifier "ATI Rage IIC"
> > > > Driver "ati"
> > > > #VideoRam 4096
> > > > EndSection
> > > >
> > > > The documentation says not to tell it how much VRAM you have unless
it
> > > > can't figure it out for itself -- put in the figure, but leave it
> > > > commented out.
> > > >
> > > > JRT
>
> --
>
> Have a lot of fun!
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From: LNyT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: DRI compiling problems
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 03:55:40 +0100
I'm trying to install XFree with DRI support for my Rage128 card. I'm
building everything from source, from CVS, and I'm stuck at the point where
we're asked to "make World". This procedure, very lengthy - over an hour on
my PII-350, appears to have been successful, but it does not create the
r128.o module as it was supposed to. I tried making several times, playing
with the parameters in Makefile, but it still didn't produce the module,
though it never reported any error.
I'm using kernel 2.40-test12, gcc version is 2.96, and I'm running on a
RH7.0 distro. Thanks to anyone who can help out!
-LNyT
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From: Rasmussen <Osler>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: RH 7 and Linksys LNE100tx tulip compile problem
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:14:34 -0600
Help!!!!!!
I am at my wits end. No matter how many hours I try I can't get the
appropiate drivers compiled. I continue to get errors. I have tried
the rpms, the drivers tgz file from linksys, and tried to individually
compile them by hand.
gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c tulip.c `[
-f/usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] && echo -DMODVERSIONS`
I realize their is a problem with header files in RH 7.0 and gcc. I
have followed the instuctions compulsively (see below) and it will not
work. I installed the glibc bug fixes from redhat. I installed a
stable version of gcc. Still will not compile.
==============================================================================
http://www.scyld.com/network/updates.html
Special instructions for Red Hat 7.0
Red Hat 7.0 has a flawed configuration with their default install. It
uses the header files from an unreleased 2.3.99 kernel, rather than
installing the header files from the kernel that is actually running.
This was an attempt to make user-level binaries independent of the
specific kernel version, but it makes it impossible to automatically
build kernel modules.
A second problem is that 7.0 provides an experimental version of gcc
that was not intended for public release. The stable version of gcc
needed to correctly compile the kernel has been renamed to kgcc.
The work-around is to substitute kgcc for gcc and to add
-I/usr/src/linux/include on the compile command line when compiling by
hand. The Makefile in the tar file and RPM automatically include this
compile flag, however they cannot automatically use 'kgcc'.
To repeat: this is a flaw that was introduced with Red Hat 7.0. It is
a Red Hat configuration problem, not a driver update distribution bug.
The symptom of this bug is compile error messages such as
tulip.c: In function `tulip_open':
tulip.c:1437: structure has no member named `tbusy'
tulip.c:1438: structure has no member named `start'
===========================================================================================
What am I doing wrong?
The solution that seems easiest to me is if some kind soul with RH 7.0
or any distro with kernel 2.2.16-22 would email me
tulip.o and
pci-scan.o
from their /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/net directory
thanks
obryantr@(SPAM_SANDWICH)chartermi.net
remove (SPAM_SANDWICH) to email me
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From: "Dack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: any Good MB for Duron?
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 11:13:18 +0800
For Linux support, which MB are good for AMD Duron?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware
Subject: Re: choosing a hard drive
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 03:07:57 GMT
You should get atleast a 7200 rpm hard drive, with atleast ATA66
support. Some good brands are Western Digital, Seagate, Maxtor, etc.
This last weekend I got a 30 Gigabyte, 7200 rpm, ATA 100 hard drive for
$150 at Best Buy, with no rebates!
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
sherry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm uncertain as to whether cross posting the same message to three
> different newsgroups constitutes as spam, technically speaking, so I
> will apologize in advance if this is the case.
>
> I wish to buy a new hard drive for my computer that will be used
as a
> second (and perhaps third) partition. I'd like it to be of the IDE
sort.
> I'd like it to be of a price tag of no more than $200CND. Also,
> importantly, I'd very much like it to be supported under most if not
all
> linux distros. Aside from these three criterias, I haven't the
slightest
> clue on how to pick a good quality hard drive. What am I to look for?
> What are "good" access times in this day and age? I realize hard drive
> performance can be a considerable factor in overall computing speed,
so
> I thought it best to ask the gurus. I'd be much obliged with any help
> any of you can provide, especially on the access time issue. Any hard
> drive recommendations would also be appreciated as long as you tell me
> why you are recommending it specifically :)
>
> best regards,
>
>
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:02:08 -0500
From: zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: external modem problem! help!
I read everywhere that all external modems are supported in linux. I was
trying to install a sportster 36K fax modem (US robotics) attached to
the serial port but it doesnt respond.
When i dial using the debug option with pppd i get:
'expected' message for a while ,
then 'alarm'
then 'fail'.
i used the setserial to automatic config and the modem (i think) was
detected in ttS0, irq 4. since i dont get much from the debug script,
and most how-to s only mention how easy it is to install an external
modem without much details.. im stuck here, please anyone help. thanks
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From: "Drew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Configuration driving me crazy!!!
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:21:47 -0800
I hate to bother you with a newbie question - but I'm a newbie! Trying very
very hard to learn Linux, but mostly alone. I'll begin attending a user
group next week - hopefully that will help me pick up things faster.
Here's my question. I have spent weeks trying to setup a Linux system, but
every device I try to configure is a nightmare. I have just about given up
on setting up the sound card. I am running kernal 2.4.0-test11 because it
supports my new motherboard with its ATA100 controller but I am beginning to
think that I may be having the problems I am having because this is a beta
kernal (supposedly not stable yet). Maybe if I reverted back to my stable
Mandrake 7.1 installation, and just patched or RPMed the ATA100 controller,
and the driver for my new sound card (a Soundblaster Live), I could avoid
all these problems. My problem is I can't find an RPM for the ATA100
controller or the sound card. Can't find patches for them either. And I'm
such a newbie that I don't know if the ATA100 driver is something that is
even available as a patch or RPM. Does it have to come with the kernal, or
can it be added into the kernal via patch or RPM?
Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Drew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DRI compiling problems
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 03:32:47 GMT
In comp.os.linux.x LNyT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to install XFree with DRI support for my Rage128 card. I'm
> building everything from source, from CVS, and I'm stuck at the point where
> we're asked to "make World". This procedure, very lengthy - over an hour on
> my PII-350, appears to have been successful, but it does not create the
> r128.o module as it was supposed to. I tried making several times, playing
> with the parameters in Makefile, but it still didn't produce the module,
> though it never reported any error.
> I'm using kernel 2.40-test12, gcc version is 2.96, and I'm running on a
> RH7.0 distro. Thanks to anyone who can help out!
> -LNyT
Unless you changed your host.def file, the DRI build won't build the kernel
modules... The idea is to get people to use the kernel module from their kernel
build (unfortunately, it hasn't always been up to date, and wasn't supported
in the 2.2.* kernels till 2.2.18). What you need to do is change into:
xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel
and run:
$ make -f Makefile.linux r128.o
This should build the kernel module. Make sure to install it in the proper
location ( /lib/modules/2.4.0-test12/kernel/drivers/char/drm ) and run
"depmod -a" before starting X.
If it's an AGP card, make sure you have agpsupport compiled... If you don't
have an AGP card, make sure you disable support for it in your .config file
before building the r128.o module (otherwise it will never install properly).
Adam
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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DRI compiling problems
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:36:58 -0600
LNyT wrote:
>
> I'm trying to install XFree with DRI support for my Rage128 card. I'm
> building everything from source, from CVS, and I'm stuck at the point
> where we're asked to "make World". This procedure, very lengthy - over an
> hour on my PII-350, appears to have been successful, but it does not
> create the r128.o module as it was supposed to. I tried making several
> times, playing with the parameters in Makefile, but it still didn't
> produce the module, though it never reported any error.
>
> I'm using kernel 2.40-test12, gcc version is 2.96, and I'm running on a
> RH7.0 distro. Thanks to anyone who can help out!
>
> -LNyT
>
Well since there is no gcc 2.96, I would recommend using something that is
not beta, maybe 2.95.2. http://gcc.gnu.org
Redhat decided to name a develpment version 2.96, many people have many
problems and support for betas is more likely to be "help me fix it" than
"here's how to do that". Some one at Redhat is your best bet for help with
"2.96"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cyberpower UPS
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 03:59:59 GMT
Anyone have anything to share regarding Cyberpower UPSs and
Linux? Good, bad? Would I be able to shut my machine off
in the case of a outtage unattended?
Any recommendations for other UPSs? The setup is a dual PIII/500
desktop with a 19" monitor.
TIA,
Greg
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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: external modem problem! help!
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:07:52 -0600
zak wrote:
> I read everywhere that all external modems are supported in linux. I was
>
> trying to install a sportster 36K fax modem (US robotics) attached to
> the serial port but it doesnt respond.
> When i dial using the debug option with pppd i get:
> 'expected' message for a while ,
> then 'alarm'
> then 'fail'.
> i used the setserial to automatic config and the modem (i think) was
> detected in ttS0, irq 4. since i dont get much from the debug script,
> and most how-to s only mention how easy it is to install an external
> modem without much details.. im stuck here, please anyone help. thanks
>
>
>
If you don't get help here try alt.os.linux.dial-up, modems are their
specialty.
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From: "Dan White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: weird keyboard/mouse problem
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 04:06:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm having a weird problem with my mouse/keyboard. I recently moved my
> machine to a new room and now I have no use for the extension cable that
> I was using for my keyboard. But, when I start up without the cable,
> during boot up Kudzu (Red Hat's hardware detection software) informs me
> that my PS2 mouse has been removed. Here I am able to use the keyboard
> to select "DO NOTHING" so that boot up continues normally. Then, when X
> starts, neither my keyboard nor my mouse work at all. However, if I use
> the extension cable everything works fine.
>
> I am running Red Hat 6.2 and using a Logitech keyboard with a mouse that
> is serial/PS2 compatable.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks, Brad
>
Try backing up your X config in /etc/X11/XF86Config, and reconfiguring X
with 'Xconfigurator'
- Dan White
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cyberpower UPS
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 04:01:08 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Anyone have anything to share regarding Cyberpower UPSs and
Oops. Forgot to mention I am looking at their Office Power AVR
series.
Thanks,
Greg
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